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    jocuserious reacted to 1Timothy115 in Is A Mohawk Sin?   
    What does a haircut have to do with worshiping Jesus Christ? I can't believe this thread is still going. 
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    jocuserious reacted to prophet1 in Is A Mohawk Sin?   
    Not long. It is all the admonition we have (men).
    Hair style doesn't come from God, it comes from culture.
    There is no way to discuss hair style, without discussing a secondary topic parallel to hair.
    For instance:
    A child, under their parent's authority, is commanded to OBey their parents. Hence, if their father says "No Mohawk", then they sin to wear one.



    Anishinabe


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    jocuserious got a reaction from Jeffrey in Is A Mohawk Sin?   
    Oy, i need to comment on this thread.
    To those who have stated that a child should only have a high and tight haircut I would like to clarify one thing to you. A high and tight is a military haircut. Men with these haircuts have killed more people in the last 100 years than we have accounted for in all other history. It was originated by the U.S. military during the American Revolution and more formally the Indian wars. Technology had not advanced enough to allow for haircuts constantly and people didn't seem to care until they were being scalped. This new haircut made it very difficult for Native Americans to scalp people while they were still alive. As time progressed the U.S. military adopted this hairstyle originating from that purpose. Armies all over the world have adopted adaptations of this very haircut for their own military. Most notable, the Nazi party.
    Now, I must disagree with about 90% of you who have posted. I do not believe that a Mohawk is inherently a sin. I do, however, believe that judging a person based only on their haircut and not what is in their heart, what they say, and their testimony is a sin. We are warned against these types of judgement throughout all scripture and even Christ dealt with them.
    "Who is that?"
    "He says he's the son of God."
    "Well, he doesn't look like the Son of God! He MUST be blasphemous."
    "But he knows more about the laws than you."
    "Well then, lets shut him up quickly!"
     We, as Christians, are called to be held to a higher standard but we lower ourselves by this constant judgement that really only does one thing... it removed us for the real purpose we are in this world. To Glorify God and spread Scripture. If we want to get into how a fashion statement is going to hurt us as Christians I think that it should start with you first. Those plaid shirts, button up shirts, ties, suits, blouses, boots, jean skirts, stockings, bras, boxers, etc... Those would all have been considered heresy to the pharisees. We are adorning ourselves with patters, colors, excess, etc. Before you comment on the splinter make sure you don't have a log.
    Don't judge people by tattoos, piercings, clothes, or haircuts before hearing their words, speaking to their heart, and listening to their testimony. While I don't see an issue with tattoos, piercings, or haircuts I do believe that modesty is important with Christian lifestyle. Having a tattoo of a naked girl on our forearm seems to very easily be a stumbling block. Lets also consider that that Christian with a naked girl tattoo found Christ after having fallen into depression in his 30's 40's 50's etc. That tattoo, while immodest, is now part of his testimony and you just ignored that person based on their looks being too 'worldly.' This is the biggest hypocrisy I see in today's fundamental churches and one that i take very seriously.
    Now, to the parents of the child. This is your decision. This is not the child's decision and if your child doesn't agree with you than sparing the rod may not be an option but this is a young child who wants something he likes. I do not see an issue with it but you may see an issue with it. 100 years ago marrying someone you loved instead of who your parent's decided was right for you was considered a sin and now we think it's crazy to be any other way. Don't think that because the child wants something it isn't okay for them but don't think it is either.
    Let me ask this. What do you feel about this hairstyle? Have you actually sat down, read Scripture, and prayed about what you felt was the best outcome for this situation?
    If you feel that your child needs to grow up more before making that decision than that is great! Let the child make the decision when YOU feel they are mature enough and spiritual enough to do so. If the child is diabetic and wants a candycane do you allow it? No, because the child would not be mature enough to understand why not.
    Do not, and i repeat, do not make a decision because of what people tell you is right and people tell you is wrong. There is only one thing that can tell you what is right and what is wrong and that is God. If God decides to speak through the voice of a pastor, a friend, a relative, etc then listen but TEST THE SPIRITS and make sure that it is from God and not a Christian who can not come to terms with the fact that we are human. If you make a mistake and change your mind later, so what? We are all sinners and we make unknowing mistakes. That's one of the best things about being a Christian. Even when we try our hardest we still make mistakes and sin unknowingly because we are not perfect but God is so merciful that those don't matter. What matters is our life, our actions, our testimony, and our salvation.
    So, all that said.... To the people who are saying this haircut is a stumbling block to them I say to you:  You are a stumbling block to me for making a haircut a bigger issue than it needs to be. I can forgive that but it's my duty as your brother to let you know that your actions are hurting me and I know I would not be the only one.
    I always felt that when Paul was writing to the different churches the ones who did not nitpick the small things he seemed to call the 'strong' churches. Those who nitpicked the small things, went to court, had prOBlems seemed to be the churches who were weak. These issues were not of the world but their own issues that they forced onto everyone else. Those who focused on God, were not luke-warm, ministered, reprimanded outrageous sins, and forgave those who repented were the strong church and that is the example I am willing to follow.
    Looking at these comments; I'm happy I'm not a member of many of the churches you attend. Let that sink in.
     
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    jocuserious reacted to KAT in Is A Mohawk Sin?   
    As a parent, we understand the implications of a certain haircut and as stated a 5 year old doesn't.  That is why we are the parents and have the final say so- whether our young child understands the reasoning or not. 
     
    I kind of compare it to how God gives us "rules" that we sometimes don't understand as babes in Christ but we follow them anyway because He does know best- and as we mature in His Word, His "rules" make sense.
     
    Our culture has expectations as to what a "real Christian" should look like. I am not saying that is right or wrong, just fact.  If two people were walking down the street- one punked out, and the other clean cut- and I said that one was a Christian, most people (saved and unsaved) would choose the clean cut one because of his look.  However, in reality the punked out one could be a newly saved Christian who is still being convicted on wordliness and the clean cut one could be a lost prep. It is all appearence. But it still shows that most people have an idea as to what a Christian looks like.  ( I actually took a poll from the ladies in jail- unanimously the clean-cut won).
     
    Our witness (look, attitude, daily walk) should reflect our God and our Saviour and if my son having a mohawk will hurt my testimony (right or wrong), then he will not have a mohawk. As a parent, I have the final say-so. Not my young child.
     
    KatnHat
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    jocuserious reacted to BlessedChristianlady8 in Is A Mohawk Sin?   
    A Christian child should not have a mohawk but, if the son wants it and has a great heart and living for God , I don't see why not, there are other issues in a persons life and decisions that people need to worry about children.  I think a 5 year old don't understand why a mohawk is bad. 
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    jocuserious reacted to Heir of Salvation in Is A Mohawk Sin?   
    You are over-thinking this:  I actually trust your instinct.  A chance to say "yes" when possible is not a bad reason to permit something.  I feel the same way about my kids sometimes. 
    The kid is....................FIVE!!  It's not a big deal.  He is YOUR son, not your parents'.  One honors their parents (which has as much to do with financially caring for them as much as anything else) but letting them raise your son is not "honoring" them.  If you can't do it with a clear conscience with respect to your own instincts and your own reading of Scripture, then don't let him do it.  It isn't "REBELLION" on the part of your son to want the mohawk.  He just wants it, because at the moment he thinks it looks kinda cool.  Does it look cool? NO....on a five-year-old...it just kinda looks like a five-year-old got the haircut he wanted to try.  He'll probably get over it in a matter of weeks or months anyway.
     
    It is YOUR conscience and YOUR understanding of the Scripture which matters, not the bloviations of judgemental people who see a witch under every rock and a demon around every corner and spend their entire lives hunting for them and trying to wipe them out.  As much as I am an IFB...and love being one.....some fundamentalists are too worldly-MINDED that they see "worldliness" in almost everything.  Forget the witch-hunters.  I could find something "worldly" with just about any haircut sported today if I tried hard enough, including the Mr. Rogers look sported by the average IFB.  It is not expressly a Scriptural command, thus it is not a "SIN".  Is it "wise"?...meh.....it's up to you to decide that, not your parents or your pastor or anyone on this board to tell you that.
     
    I think there's a place every now and again to "let your hair down a little" (pun intended).
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    jocuserious reacted to 4everHis in Is A Mohawk Sin?   
    To the OP:
    Many things in life will not be chapter and verse, but you will have to use principles to determine how your family will operate.  For example, are electronic games sinful?  I know some families who will not let their children use electronics for games and others who will.  Each has a principle that they use for their family.
    I think the bigger question is "Am I capitulating because I want to keep my kids happy since I always say no, or am I allowing this because I truly find it childish and harmless and it will be a fun time for my son and me.?"
    You indicated both are true for you.  Then your parents call you out on it, seemingly ironically.
    You need to decide what works for your family and go with that.  You do need to consider the testimony value, as well as the understanding your child has about your family rules and the faith from which they stem.  (At this age your child may not even be saved and should just OBey because it is your family's rules rather than in OBedience to the Bible principles about worldliness.
    For our home, and our community, the mohawk style is definitely part of the "I need to stand out" "I'm different than you" "I don't conform" culture, so the Mohawk would not be a hairstyle we would be sporting or supporting.  You need to consider where you live and how things are perceived.
     
    As to the brother with the mohawk, welcome.  I'm glad that you are doing what you feel is a Biblical reminder of your inner man.  We have young people in our community who tattoo themselves with Scripture references and phrases for the same purpose as your hair.  While I don't feel either is the best approach in my area of the country, I at least can say these people are trying to be spiritually alert day to day which is a great start.
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