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prophet1

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  1. Gen 19:14 14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.
  2. Act 11:28-30 28 And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world:which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar. 29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea: 30 Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul. Next instance of NT giving: Surprise, surprise...to the needs of Saints.
  3. Act 10:4 4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. An aside. Here is a Gentile, commended for alms giving, not paying tithes.
  4. I would love to see the KJV updated. Apparently, everyone who has "attempted" it so far, had a bias against the Received Texts that the Reina Valera and KJB were translated from. See the editor of the NKJV's thesis on the textual transmission issue. The hurdle now, is that the common use of words found in the Scriptures has been twisted since the RV was released (ASV in the U.S.). Even our dictionaries reflect the redefining of terms. Example: 'Talent' has now come to mean: 'ability', even though , in the KJB, it is OBviously not a metaphor for ability, 'ability' is found in the sentence as 'talent'. Many, and I count myself among these, fear that there would never now be a consensus among updaters. Some of us ,who read Middle and early Modern English literature unabridged, as children, have a much easier time with the archaic terms, cuz we've seen em in context many times. We see people delve into the 'original languages' for additional light, and find instead, darkness. Most people can't even define the word "believe", now. Someone, out of ND, updated the KJV 20 years ago or so, and people knee-jerked. I never saw a copy of it. The courtroom legaleze, into which our Bible was translated, is of utmost importance. Literary wise, the AV is the greatest literary work in any language , translated at the height of the English language. It is a treasure. The Holy Spirit teaches it. He, The Word, died for our sins. The Spirit is just as capable of teaching updaters to update, as he was at translators to translate. Random thoughts, cuz you asked.
  5. Dispensations is a stepping stone back to Rome. That is why works salvation plays a part in it.
  6. Act 6:1-4 1 And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. 2 Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables. 3 Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business. 4 But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word. Here, the purpose for deacons is established. They are to oversee the distribution of the collected giving.
  7. Act 20:33-35 33 I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. 34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. 35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. Here Paul is establishing the first precedent. Prior to that, you had Jews selling their inherited possessions and lands. This was symbolic of the doing away with the Law, as well. They sold all of their possesssions, that were going to be taken from them soon by the government if they had not. Now , Paul comes along, and works, to provide for his and others needs, and commands us to do the same. Eph 4:28 28 Let him that stole steal no more:but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
  8. Act 11:29-30 29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea: 30 Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul. #3...
  9. Act 4:34-35 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked:for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles 'feet:and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. Instance #2 Saints' needs.
  10. Gen 17:2 2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
  11. Act 2:45 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. 1st instance of NT giving... All monies collected were distributed to the physical needs of Saints.
  12. Maybe a look at all of the examples of giving, beginning in Acts 2, and going through all of the Epistles, will help illuminate our mode, method, message of giving in the churches.
  13. It seems that one of the results of the Fundamentalist Movement's Protestantization of the Baptists, was to conflate simple terms, making logical discussion impossible. Pay a tithe- Give 10% of one's Harvest , once a year, to the Priest Tribe that has no inheritance. Give- any possession freely offered from one person/entity to another person/entity. The Saints are the priests, now. The body is the new Temple. And our care for each other's physical needs IS our method of giving.
  14. Yes, those "pastors" (another non-scriptural practice), who have ignored this: Act 20:33-35 33 I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. 34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. 35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. And this: Eph 4:28 28 Let him that stole steal no more:but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. they, instead of labouring with their hands in a trade, so that they can give to the needy Saints, rather live off of money extorted from those needy through threatening with curses that do not apply to the Saints at all. Gal 3:10 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse:for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Gal 3:13 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: And here the Law is given a definite timetable of effectiveness: from Hagar (Sinai), to the death of Jesus: Gal 3:19 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Gal 3:24-25 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. Teaching the Malachi curse to born-again Gentiles , after the Veil was rent in twain, is as blasphemous as teaching that Jesus' death was of none effect.
  15. Mal 1:1 1 The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi.
  16. Your first verse is addressing Israelites, in Israel, before the death of the Testator. At His death, the earthly priesthood was disolved, the Law disanulled, and Hebrews 7 uses the Law of paying a tithe as an example of this. Your 2nd verse was written to a NT church, concerning collecting money to be given to destitute Saints at another church. Every single monetary cent, collected in the NT churches, was used to provide for the physical needs of Saints. Period. 1Co 16:1-3 1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem. This was a one time situation, not a weekly ritual. Context is your friend. It is called "rightly dividing".
  17. Gen 15:16 16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again:for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
  18. Read the Epistles again, sparky. The Saints are to care for each other's needs. 1Co 12:25 25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
  19. This was my thought as I read Mike's post, as well. Except the name part, which I see no instruction to do....
  20. You guys take good care of Jordan. I thank God for Fairhaven's stand in music.
  21. I didnt watch the video. You're 36 years too late.
  22. Yes, the Messiah is the same, from an excited Eve naming her son 'a man from the LORD', to the Saints that flee during the great tribulation.
  23. Yes.... A friend and I would go out, equipped like this, all night every Sat. night, when we were young Bible College students. We worked midnights, so we had a hard time sleeping at night. To this day, I keep tge assistance package handy, and look for those in need. They are often ready to be harvested.
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