prophet1

Ulzana

God's Spirit dwells in the Earth. While I see the results of His moving, I have yet to catch a glimpse of Him. Sure there are spirits in the Earth today.

He doesn't "dwell" here. He is everywhere, but His dwelling place is not the Earth. You can try to make a spirit do whatever you want it to, but you cant force it to be a physical being. Words have definitions. Spirits are not of our physical realm.

And saying something is spiritual is not the same as "outside time" - Now who 8 changing God's Word - my usage is consistent with the meaning.
Yours is fantasy......

Learn English.

A spirit does not dwell in the physical earth.

God dwells in eternity.

Both God and angels can appear to us, the physical beings, but they are not limited to Time as we are.

Your hang up is with the definitions of "spirit", and 'physical' (in the body, flesh, carnal).

As Jesus said to Nic. "Art thou a master" in Aussie land, ....?

I can not believe that you, after all your constant spouting about biblical proof on other matters, are arguing so vehemently from silence for this matter.

All things were created in six days - not everything physical thing but everything that was made - the verses already presented show this.

You have no verses - or at least have provided no verses - to support you premise either of Angels being outside time, nor that they were created in some other event from the creation.

Bring SCRIPTURE to support these or stop.

I brought Scripture.
Spirits aren't physical.
Now read Hebrews 1 again.

I disagree. Exodus tells us that everything in Heaven, Earth, and the seas was created within a six-day period of time. The Bible clearly tells us the angels are in Heaven. Therefore, angels were created within that six day period of time.

There are heavens, not just heaven. The physical Heavens were created in the first week of Time. Angels don't dwell in Time, they aren't physical, and aren't included in our physical creation. This has nothing to do with how old the physical earth is. We know how old Earth is, about 6,240 years. We dont have to cram angels into physical creation, in order to refute the Gap, the wording in Genesis plainly does that already. Heb 1:7-8 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

How about this? Gen 4:26 26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos:then began men to call upon the name of the Lord. Rom 10:13 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Jn 1:12-13 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. How about JOB was referring to Christ? You know, since the Earth isn't a square building, set on a foundation, with a laid cornerstone. JOB 38:4-9 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Isa 28:16 16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Unless you are suggesting that angels are not created beings, I fail to see the relevance.

Maybe you ought to try to explain your point further.

The relevance is that the sons of God are tied to Time. The angels are created in eternity, where time doesn't exist.

And God here separates any possible cross reference.

The sons of God could not have been created before the first day of creation. If they had been, then Exodus 20:11 is a lie.

Exodus 20:11 (KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The sons of God had to have been created during the six day period of the creation.

And then, there is the possibility that "sons of God" is not speaking of angels at all. I find no verse in the entire Word of God that specifically says angels were sons of God.

How about one that specifically says that no angel is a son of God?

Heb 1:5
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Heb 1:13-14
13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Angels are sent forth to mnister to the sons of God, the heirs of salvation, joint-heirs with Christ.

Chi Mukwa

Gen 6:6
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Gen 2:11
11 The name of the first is Pison:that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;

Not long. It is all the admonition we have (men).
Hair style doesn't come from God, it comes from culture.
There is no way to discuss hair style, without discussing a secondary topic parallel to hair.
For instance:
A child, under their parent's authority, is commanded to OBey their parents. Hence, if their father says "No Mohawk", then they sin to wear one.



Anishinabe

Some good answers have been given here.

Feae not, my friend...if God had chosen you to be without a wife, for His sake, you would feel no sadness.

It sounds like you feel "bound" which is exactly what you shouldn't.

If you need a wife, take 1. Thou hast not sinned.
Put out a fleece, if you must.
God has 1 for ya.

Anishinabe

Don't be playin wit my fro bro!

O, fo shizzo.

Anishinaabe

True dat!

Dem baggy pants be saggin makin walkin a trip!

U finna split yo wig, bruh!

Anishinaabe

Narrow path homey be down with dat
Holy Ghost inside me, got sonar betta than a bat
Don't diss my CD as a coaster
Those in hell be like livin' in a toaster!

Dogg, you strait trippin'!

Anishinaabe

I am not Israel/ a blue blood Jew I am a Gentile and I am called elect today along with any believing man of any race. But in the OT economy only Israel, ALL Israel was called the Elect.

No one under the OT economy or during the Great Tribulation will be added to the Body of Christ. for there was no such thing in the OT and their is none added in the Tribulation. They are added to the kingdom not the body, for the body has been removed at the gathering.

Every 'body' of every one who has ever believed, will be gathered at the first resurrection, including the Tribulation Martyrs, who aren't called Jews, so don't try to say that they are.

Rev 20:4-6
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Saying something on purpose, that you don't know to be true, is a lifestyle of lying. Habitual. Dispensational.

If you try to say that the martyrs in Rev. 20 are Jews, I will, from now on, call you a liar for it.

Anishinaabe

Naw, IMO, the elect he makes war with is not the Body of Christ but Israel and that would happen after we are gathered together.

One step a lot of people fail in study is asking the "which " question.

Which elect?

in the OT and the gospels up to Acts 7 the Elect is Israel. Today in this age the elect is the Body of Christ. After our gathering Israel will once again be the elect Hebrew-Rev.

Which People?

the people, my people and the people from Exodus to Acts 7 is Israel. Today from Acts 13 to Philemon that term is used of the Body of Christ. from Heb-rev it is Israel.

Which church?

From Exodus to Act 7 it is Israel (church in the wilderness/church of the first born). today from Acts 13-Philemon the church is the body of Christ. from Hebrews to revelation it is Israel.

Which chosen?

From Genesis to Act 7 the chosen is Israel. Today from Act 13-Philemon the chosen is the Body of Christ. From Heb-rev the chosen is Israel.

It is important to study out using all the tools God gave us Who, What, When, Why, Where, Which and How. These seven tools help us to rightly divide the word of truth.

The Elect, from Israel, are in the Body of Christ. The unbelieving Israelites are in Hell.

Anishinaabe

A gathering into the clouds does not seem like a falling away to me either.

the falling away is already upon us. It is the rejection of the word of God. Even among the church there is less and less true teaching from the word of God..

All we need now is the revelation of the man of sin and we are out of here.

After he makes war against us, and wins...temporarily.

Anishinaabe

Of course, falling away is not resurrecting.
No body falls upward to the sky.
Rapture is a feeling, not an event.

But, because some here are set in the ways of the error of the Bible Correctors, certainly there must be some prOBlem with the wording, or our perception of it.

If your eschatology isn't skewed by men's teachings, then you understand this plainly, that falling away is of those who are supposed to be watching.
PreTrib dispy teaching fits the bill.

Anishinaabe

Things Hard to be Understood
2Th. 2:1-3

“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” – 2Th 2:1-3

If this passage refers to the Rapture of the church age saints, it would teach that it does not occur until after the appearance of the Antichrist. Some use this passage as a proof text to support such a position. We do not believe the “day of Christ” refers to the Rapture, though. It refers, rather, to “the day of the Lord” spoken of frequently in Old Testament prophecy. This “day” describes the entire period of end-time prophecy stretching from the Tribulation to the Millennium, but it usually focuses on the Tribulation period during which God will deal with Israel and bring them to repentance (Zec 14).

Some claim that the falling away in verse 3 refers to believers who lose their salvation. To the contrary, this passage warns of the great apostasy of the last days, and the Apostle does not say that those who fall away are true believers. The true brethren (2Th 2:1) are comforted that they are not the ones being described here. Those who fall away and turn to the antichrist are those who “received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved” (2Th 2:10).

1. There is no direct tie- in between the fallen away in verse 3, and those who receive the Mark, in verse 10.
2. You have to be in a position, before you can fall away from it.
The Bible doesn't tell us what this means here, it is left to our conjecture.
But we know that this present world hasn't changed a bit, so it has to be something in Christianity.
Anytime you think the World is getting progressively worse....read
Gen.19 and Judges 19 again.
Or read about the Aztecs.
Or read about Somalia last week.

Anishinaabe

my choice of venison stew or spagetti......hmmmm

well.....which one was it?

Anishinaabe

Straight cranberry juice. MMMMMMMMMmmmm

God bless,
Larry

Good Medicine.

Anishinaabe

Where the lines become blurred for many, is in the question of Whether the Word of God (Bible) is the Word of God (Jesus).

I see many trying to drive a wedge here, and it is most disconcerting.

Anishinaabe

I appreciate the review. Sorry to here about your wife's struggles with CCM. We will pray that she gains the victory. I have been told privately by a friend of mine that I should watch my back over some of the things that I said in the book. It seems that I upset a few people because I named specific churches, specific people, and specific incidents. One of those churches is in the town that we live in and it seems that I caused quite a stir in that church. Oh well. That's life.

Sincerely,
Bro Steve Smith
brosmith@pioneerbaptist.org

2Ti 3:12
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.


Anishinaabe