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Ban HC for being so trigger happy that she squeezed in her post less than 3 minutes after Salyan posted. Note that my post was only 3 minutes later. It does take me a few seconds to come up with an appropriate bible scripture.

Ban 2b for explaining his post!

Gen 21:20
20 And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer.

Gen 21:13
13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.

Gen 20:13
13 And it came to pass, when God caused me to wander from my father's house, that I said unto her, This is thy kindness which thou shalt shew unto me; at every place whither we shall come, say of me, He is my brother.

Gen 20:1
1 And Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and dwelled between Kadesh and Shur, and sojourned in Gerar.

Gen 19:14
14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

I prefer gray, but it seems blue won.

Dont forget it.

Gen 17:2
2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.

Gen 15:16
16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again:for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

So you are saying that the "gospel" preached to Adam is the same gospel that Paul preached. You are saying that Adam knew the name Jesus.
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Rom 10:9

Oh look... Nonic and Mountain agree with you.

Yes, the Messiah is the same, from an excited Eve naming her son 'a man from the LORD', to the Saints that flee during the great tribulation.

My truck always has a full 5 gallon can of gas, a DC air compressor for flats, jumper cables, fire extenguisher, well stocked first aid kit, and emergency survival kit in it. I actively seek the opportunity to be a blessing to a motorist in trouble. I have yet to find someone I am helping in time in need who will not hear an entire gospel witness.

Yes.... A friend and I would go out, equipped like this, all night every Sat. night, when we were young Bible College students. We worked midnights, so we had a hard time sleeping at night. To this day, I keep tge assistance package handy, and look for those in need. They are often ready to be harvested.

Peter preached the Gospel of the Kingdom, the Gospel of the Circumcision in Acts 3:
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out,
when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things,
which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Jesus was the Minister to the Circumcision:
Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God,
to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: [ie: Jewish patriarchs] Romans 15:8

As long as the Temple stood, the Gospel of the Kingdom was preached to the Nation Israel.
As well, the Gospel of the Kingdom ["Millennium"] will be preached by believing Jews during the Tribulation.


It looks like a lot of people just haven't got "the memo"... it really helps to "rightly divide" 2 Tim 2:15.

Now, as far as the Body of Christ (composed of Jew+Gentile), the Gospel of Grace applies... for this dispensation.
(Paul's point in Galatians).

It has always been, and will be to the end of the 1,000 years, the same Gospel.


Rom 4:3-5
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.


Psa 32:1-2
1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity,
and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Rom 4:22-25
22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Act 16:31
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Gen 12:20
20 And Pharaoh commanded his men concerning him:and they sent him away, and his wife, and all that he had.

We are saved when we believe God.

He offers a promise.
He cant lie.
We take Him at His Word.

He offers us a marriage, as a suitable groom, and we accept His invitation.

He offers us a free gift, and we accept it.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.

Gen 12:6
6 And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.


Anishinaabe

First of all, conscience is nothing more than the manifestation of the law that is written into the hearts of all men. It is not the Holy Spirit.

Now to address your claim that there is no mention of the Holy Spirit conviction I will provide just a few of the host of scriptures.

John 6:44 (KJV)
⁴⁴ No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:63 (KJV)
⁶³ It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

John 6:65 (KJV)
⁶⁵ And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

John 4:21-24 (KJV)
²¹ Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
²² Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
²³ But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
²⁴ God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Ephesians 4:4 (KJV)
⁴ There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Romans 8:30 (KJV)
³⁰ Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

2 Corinthians 3:18 (KJV)
¹⁸ But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Ephesians 2:21-22 (KJV)
²¹ In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
²² In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

1 Peter 1:21-23 (KJV)
²¹ Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
²² Seeing ye have purified your souls in OBeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
²³ Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 John 5:6 (KJV)
⁶ This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

There are many more but if this post gets much longer, no one will read it.

Bro. Garry
In His will. By His power. For His glory.

Too bad that you missed the point.

The word "conviction" means : 'to be declared guilty by a judge', and isn't found once in any of the verses in your long post.

So if you meant "leading", when you mistakenly said "conviction", than I agree with your post.

Remember, a convict is someone who serves a sentence, not someone who follows God.

Gen 10:19 19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

Revelation 7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
Revelation 7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
Revelation 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white rOBes? and whence came they?
Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their rOBes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Revelation 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
Revelation 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
Revelation 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

Hmmmm... Silence for about an half hour? Seems like there is time in the third heaven after all.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Notice the first "the" in Genesis 1:1? This signifies there was only one heaven. God later separated that heaven into three separate heavens when He divided the firmament. No big mystery if one reads Genesis 1.

Or , maybe, Heaven had a visitor from Time, who was commissioned to describe some things that are hard for us to comprehend...

Gen 10:7
7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtecha:and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.

Gen 9:19
19 These are the three sons of Noah:and of them was the whole earth overspread.

There is no mention of "Holy Spirit conviction" in the Scriptures.


Jn 8:9
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last:and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

This is the only appearance of the word in The Word.

Their year wasn't incomplete. They had leap months, as we have leap days.

They're missing 6 days per, losing several hundred years over a period of 6+ K

Wanted to add something to this, relevent to the conversation, just a couple scriptures. Is 65:17 "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind." Is 65:22 "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain." So, will God CREATE the new heavens and earth, or will He just MAKE them? Apparently, both. So, will He do it twice, or once, but using the same term to mean the same thing? It has been posited before that there will be a new heaven and earth during the kingdom age, and another new heaven and earth in eternity, but this can't be, because the NH/NE in Rev 21 at the start of eternity is the second ones, because we are told the FIRST heaven and earth were passed away. Thus, we know there will only be a second one. So, will it be created or made, or both, because they both refer to the same act?

Same goes for the resurrections : Rev 20:4-6 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Gen 8:14
14 And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried.

The Jews don't think so. Their year is 5774, they are prOBably about right.

http://www.science.co.il/Jewish-Holidays.asp

They are way off, partly due to their incomplete calendar year.

The generations in the Scriptures bring us all the way up to modern history... not hard to figure.