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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from MountainChristian in Prayers Needed For A Job Interview   
    UPDATE
     
    I went to the interview.  It went well but they have more interviews before they make their decision.  If it be God's perfect will for me it will work out on its own as God is in control over the things of his children.
     
    I got a jOB painting an apartment so I made some extra cash this week doing that as well.
     
    Thanks for the prayer and your continued prayers.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Bro K in My Son James And Lyme's Disease   
    They started James on 500mg Amoxicillian twice a day for 10 days.  And took out a large vial of blood.  the nurse said he did better than most big people do.  He barely cried but it was uncomfortable for him.
     
    Thank you for all your prayers.  One thing we can all agree on is God answers prayer.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in My Son James And Lyme's Disease   
    They started James on 500mg Amoxicillian twice a day for 10 days.  And took out a large vial of blood.  the nurse said he did better than most big people do.  He barely cried but it was uncomfortable for him.
     
    Thank you for all your prayers.  One thing we can all agree on is God answers prayer.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from MountainChristian in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    Is false practiced based on false teaching or interpretation?
     
     
    I don't think Steve, Geneva, Covenator or anyone disagrees with the basic fundamentals laid forth on this sight.
     
    But to argue endlessly over no gap or a gap is not necessary false seeing it is based on ones interpretation.
    water baptism of adults is clear but did they enter the water and then John poured water on them or laid them back into the water is moot seeing the scripture wording can be interpreted either way and when we look at the wording as to the fact God poured out his spirit on believers and we are baptized by the Holy Ghost could his pouring be an example as to how John did it?  Baby baptizing though is clearly not spoken of but again some interpreted "he and all his" as including infants.  Well would you immerse a baby?  I think not so pouring would have been done if any had done it.
    Is Musick done only with instruments or is singing also musick?  Interpretation is what leads to opinions on musick the Bible teaches both? Whether classical or pop, piano or organ, hymns or spirituals they are all interpreted as correct means of musical worship.  My rule of thumb if it moves the flesh it should not be used.
    Tithing (not going there) but again some put the law of tithing for Israel on the church and some do not.  It is ones interpretation.
    Dispensationalism (one interpretation study method) verse those who do not hold it as the way to rightly divide.  Are these reasons to label a person a heretic, false teacher or some other nomer?
     
    Every word of God is important and should be considered.  That is why it is important we are just as familiar with the WORDS as we are with the doctrines, the prophecies, and practices of the Bible and why we need to ask the who, what, why, when where, which and how.  We need to look at and conclude what is for the body of Christ and what is for Israel as that is important when it comes to the kingdom that is promised to Israel and their ultimate promised inheritance of the earth to rule over all the earth.
     
    There is so much that we don't know and if you are like me you have changed some views on some doctrine, some practices and some prophecy over the years as you study.
     
    After I had some PM with Happy today a scripture came for me of course.  I was trying to see how I could be or write that it did not come across negatively, Hard or berating, and this scripture came to mind.  1Peter 3:8, 9 "Finally, be ye all of one mind, (ye is a plural English word so it is meant for everyone) having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful (it does not mean to act pitiful but to have a broken heart for some), be courteous:  Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing".  I hope I can fulfill these in my forum life here and Should not we all strive to do these as well.
     
    I have personally had OBserved Steve over the years on different forums and have even had disagreements with him.  but as I OBserve his posts over the last month one thing I see is Steve has had some deep changes in the way he presents his ideas and how he reacts.  He has grown.  I hope that I have grown as much as he has over the last few years.
     
    I know of a few others here and have had contacts with them and each of them has grown and matured and I hope that as we interact we will all be a blessing to each other whether by way of sharing, teaching and reproving.  For that is what we are to do in forums and as brethren.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Invicta in Philemon   
    I am not sure but brother cloud is not the authority the Scriptures are.  and the truth of the matter of which language Jesus spoke the Bible itself does not tell.  None of us were there and just because the NT was mainly in Greek does not prove that is what he spoke.  The books of the NT were written after Jesus Ascended and were written in the language of the day.  We have no originals as some claim we have only copies of Originals.
     
    When someone infers that Jesus spoke in Greek it is at best an opinion, a conviction, and a speculation on the one making the inference.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in Prayers Needed For A Job Interview   
    UPDATE
     
    I went to the interview.  It went well but they have more interviews before they make their decision.  If it be God's perfect will for me it will work out on its own as God is in control over the things of his children.
     
    I got a jOB painting an apartment so I made some extra cash this week doing that as well.
     
    Thanks for the prayer and your continued prayers.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Covenanter in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    that is the point the tecnicallity is the fact that scripture is lackiing and silent and forces people to interpret in the way they see it.  The reality is people have convictions, if Episcopalians want to pour then we give them the grace and let them, if Baptist want to Immerse then so be it.  But to bash and call people hereticks over a interpretation that can't be 100% proved either way is nothing more than devouring one another and causes more division on topics people feel strongly convicted on.
     
    Gal 5:13-15 ¶ For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.   For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.   But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
     
    I went to a Episcopalian church to preach and I asked what was the extra pulpit in the middle of the platform for and I was informed it was their Baptistery.  I then asked, "how do you fit in it"?  They laughed, I laughed and that was it, no argument they knew I was for immersion and I knew they were for pouring but we wont let it keep us from preaching the word to those who need to hear it.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from MountainChristian in Prayers Needed For A Job Interview   
    Hi Everyone,
     
    I wanted to ask that you all pray for a jOB interview I have for next week Wenesday at 12:30pm.  two main pointes 1) is this really a jOB God wants me at and 2) that I get it if it is God's will for us.
     
    some of you know I since we came off the mission field in Dec2012 I have been on an extended furlough do to my sons special needs. For over the past year I have placed literally over 2000 applications for employment and at my age many employers will not hire.  This is the first interview I have been invited for and that after I received an Email that they already filled the position just two hours earlier.
     
    If this is God's will then I accept it.  I need it for sure but even off the field and loosing most of our support we still never went hungry and all our bills are current.  We are living by faith here just as we were in the field and God is amazingly supplying for us now as he has in the past.
     
    We do plan on going back into the field and we will start the next phase of the ministry there which is a pre-k through 12 Conservative Christian School.
     
    Thanks and blessings
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Covenanter in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    sorry but you can stand in water and have water poured over you then come up out of the water without ever being immersed.  no where in the any KJV text does it say John or anyone followed the standard Baptist formula we practice today of immersion.
     
    If you have to run to the Greek you don't believe the KJV in English
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to OLD fashioned preacher in Prayers Needed For A Job Interview   
    I used to tell them, "I have a Rolls Royce in the garage, why would I be interested in a VW?"
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Covenanter in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    LindaR,
     
     well the quote I saw was this (I don't see standings post my ignore list is active for them.
     
    Standing Firm In Christ, on 27 Jun 2014 - 2:15 PM, said:
    "Baptizing is not pouring out.  It is immersion.  Pouring out is translated from the Greek "excheo".  Ekcheo is never used in regards to water baptism in the original autographs."
     
    So the thought went because standing is stating emphatically that the original autographs say something.  So the Idea is that they had an original autograph and I wanted to see it.  they would be the first to have one seeing not even the RC has any original autographs, no university, no private collector, no museum has even a piece of an Original Autograph.
     
    But once again they is not being forthcoming, seeing there are no original autographs available for us to see, all we have are copies and we can't even verify their accuracy because we have no Original Autographs to compare them with. 
     
    How can a person state with full assurance that the Original Autographs say something when in fact they have never seen and original autograph in their life.  It is a false claim.
     
    Not only that again he goes to the Greek takes out one word from the context, takes a Greek meaning and attaches it to the English, then forces that meaning back into the English Text as create a pretextual explaination.  But if one compares English scripture with English scripture they would understand that the Baptism of the Holy Ghost (identified as such by Paul), and  Peter spoke of as being poured out on the Gentiles. 
     
    They can't prove anything from English, they always have to go to unreliable Greek sources which are actually classical Greek definition.  this is one of the reasons I have them on my ignore list they are being disingenuous at best.
     
     
     
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Covenanter in Prayers Needed For A Job Interview   
    Hi Everyone,
     
    I wanted to ask that you all pray for a jOB interview I have for next week Wenesday at 12:30pm.  two main pointes 1) is this really a jOB God wants me at and 2) that I get it if it is God's will for us.
     
    some of you know I since we came off the mission field in Dec2012 I have been on an extended furlough do to my sons special needs. For over the past year I have placed literally over 2000 applications for employment and at my age many employers will not hire.  This is the first interview I have been invited for and that after I received an Email that they already filled the position just two hours earlier.
     
    If this is God's will then I accept it.  I need it for sure but even off the field and loosing most of our support we still never went hungry and all our bills are current.  We are living by faith here just as we were in the field and God is amazingly supplying for us now as he has in the past.
     
    We do plan on going back into the field and we will start the next phase of the ministry there which is a pre-k through 12 Conservative Christian School.
     
    Thanks and blessings
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Covenanter in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    We do need to be careful in calling their system false.  Are not you the one who was saying that ONLY those who are by your standard and IFB should lead a study.  Here is your opportunity to put your fingers where you mouth is and lead them by study as a bonafide IFB minister.
     
    I am not saying they are correct but lead them through a study on the topic and then show them it could not have included infants.  If you can't come to the conclusion or it is silent has God not allowed for correcting by his Holy Ghost?  Or is it up to us to just label their doctrine false, heresies and a slue of other titles to which we wipe our hands clean and walk off?
     
    Ok, so take the baptism verses in the gospels where John is baptizing and show that "ALL Judea and ALL the region of the Jordon coming to him for baptism" did not include infants.
     
    Then use the one in Acts 16 and show by contextual study the "was baptized, he and all his, straightway." that the "ALL his" included or did not include babies and why it could not have included babies. 
     
    Would not this be a better way of admonition than a scathing rebuke labeling their practice (that does not affect their salvation in one ioda) false, heresy or any other label you would choose to use? 
     
    One request don't go to the Greek use the English to prove your point,.  Going to the Greek will not help (it generally singles out a single word from the context and attributes the meaning of a doctrine from the man or his organization) this will only confuse and cloud the issue, we are not Koine Greek speaking we are English speaking.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Covenanter in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    Stanfirm, I still have you on my ignore list.  and if it weren't for covenater I would never had seen your post or part of it.
     
    MHO is you have to run to the Greek to get the Meaning and give no study to how God defines a word in the English.
     
    If you had read the T's and Y's article by dave reese I posted you would know that the English used in it was 1) not common and 2) the English Language developed with it's Bible just like theHebrew language. 
     
    But if you have to run to such unreliable sources as Greek Dictionary's with their confused meanings of Classical Greek imposed on Koine Greek, which are two different Greek languages, then you are limiting you understanding to the work of other men and not you own work of study in the English KJV you hold in your hand.  If you go to the Greek dictionary (other men's works and systems are in these as well) you will do 1) remove the word from context, 2) add a meaning from outside source, 3) force the word back into the scriptures with the greek meaning thereby creating a pretextual study instead of a contextual study.
     
    Either throw out the KJV and learn Koine Greek, good luck with that it has been a dead language for well over 1,000 years, not even the best in 1611 had full knowledge on how it was spoke and had the meanings they had to rely on others and the Holy Ghost. 
     
    My Point is you take one word from the context and run to the Greek while ignoring the surrounding context of the whole KJ Bible.  If kept in context and going to all the words of Baptizo you will find that the process of Spiritual Baptism is said to "Pour out the gift of the Holy Ghost" as described by Peter not immersed.  We know this is the act of baptism is of the Holy Ghost for Gentile believers and it is said God poured it out not immersed.  in Eph 4 where the one baptism is mentioned is not water baptism but Spirit Baptism into Christ.  Which Peter said it was done by God and that he Poured it out.  and it was the baptism Peter got not from John but from Jesus when he said they would be baptised of the Holy Ghost and not one of them was immersed.  Peter said that it was God who Poured it out on  the Gentiles just like he had done to the 11 in Acts 2.
     
    the baptism the two disciple said they could be baptized with was crucifixion and indeed they were crucified later however that baptism was not immersion either it was crucifixion.
     
    My point is not every use of the English Baptize is Immersion.  and if God poured out his Spirit on us this could indicate how John Baptized.  People walked down into the water and he poured water over their heads.  There is not indication that John Immersed anyone for the Bible is silent on the procedure.  Not only that, Baptizo may have more that one meaning, immersion , being one of themas we had shown in the English KJV context.  But just because the dictionary guys decided to not give all the meanings doesn't mean it is limited to immerse again the context helps define the English word.
     
    I like the immersion personally because I like to hold them down long enough that when I let them up they are speaking in tongues. 
     
    Just kidding
     
    I use the standard buried in his likeness and raised in newness of life from Romans 6, even though there is no water any direction for 20 verses of Paul's writing in Romans 6, but it makes for a nice formula representing our Identification with Christ's Cross, death and life.
     
    Stop running to the Greek, you don't know how to speak Koine Greek and truthfully neither do the Greek professors in the Universities.  You speak English Learn it in the English first and keep the context to understand the meaning.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Genevanpreacher in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    Stanfirm, I still have you on my ignore list.  and if it weren't for covenater I would never had seen your post or part of it.
     
    MHO is you have to run to the Greek to get the Meaning and give no study to how God defines a word in the English.
     
    If you had read the T's and Y's article by dave reese I posted you would know that the English used in it was 1) not common and 2) the English Language developed with it's Bible just like theHebrew language. 
     
    But if you have to run to such unreliable sources as Greek Dictionary's with their confused meanings of Classical Greek imposed on Koine Greek, which are two different Greek languages, then you are limiting you understanding to the work of other men and not you own work of study in the English KJV you hold in your hand.  If you go to the Greek dictionary (other men's works and systems are in these as well) you will do 1) remove the word from context, 2) add a meaning from outside source, 3) force the word back into the scriptures with the greek meaning thereby creating a pretextual study instead of a contextual study.
     
    Either throw out the KJV and learn Koine Greek, good luck with that it has been a dead language for well over 1,000 years, not even the best in 1611 had full knowledge on how it was spoke and had the meanings they had to rely on others and the Holy Ghost. 
     
    My Point is you take one word from the context and run to the Greek while ignoring the surrounding context of the whole KJ Bible.  If kept in context and going to all the words of Baptizo you will find that the process of Spiritual Baptism is said to "Pour out the gift of the Holy Ghost" as described by Peter not immersed.  We know this is the act of baptism is of the Holy Ghost for Gentile believers and it is said God poured it out not immersed.  in Eph 4 where the one baptism is mentioned is not water baptism but Spirit Baptism into Christ.  Which Peter said it was done by God and that he Poured it out.  and it was the baptism Peter got not from John but from Jesus when he said they would be baptised of the Holy Ghost and not one of them was immersed.  Peter said that it was God who Poured it out on  the Gentiles just like he had done to the 11 in Acts 2.
     
    the baptism the two disciple said they could be baptized with was crucifixion and indeed they were crucified later however that baptism was not immersion either it was crucifixion.
     
    My point is not every use of the English Baptize is Immersion.  and if God poured out his Spirit on us this could indicate how John Baptized.  People walked down into the water and he poured water over their heads.  There is not indication that John Immersed anyone for the Bible is silent on the procedure.  Not only that, Baptizo may have more that one meaning, immersion , being one of themas we had shown in the English KJV context.  But just because the dictionary guys decided to not give all the meanings doesn't mean it is limited to immerse again the context helps define the English word.
     
    I like the immersion personally because I like to hold them down long enough that when I let them up they are speaking in tongues. 
     
    Just kidding
     
    I use the standard buried in his likeness and raised in newness of life from Romans 6, even though there is no water any direction for 20 verses of Paul's writing in Romans 6, but it makes for a nice formula representing our Identification with Christ's Cross, death and life.
     
    Stop running to the Greek, you don't know how to speak Koine Greek and truthfully neither do the Greek professors in the Universities.  You speak English Learn it in the English first and keep the context to understand the meaning.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Genevanpreacher in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    We do need to be careful in calling their system false.  Are not you the one who was saying that ONLY those who are by your standard and IFB should lead a study.  Here is your opportunity to put your fingers where you mouth is and lead them by study as a bonafide IFB minister.
     
    I am not saying they are correct but lead them through a study on the topic and then show them it could not have included infants.  If you can't come to the conclusion or it is silent has God not allowed for correcting by his Holy Ghost?  Or is it up to us to just label their doctrine false, heresies and a slue of other titles to which we wipe our hands clean and walk off?
     
    Ok, so take the baptism verses in the gospels where John is baptizing and show that "ALL Judea and ALL the region of the Jordon coming to him for baptism" did not include infants.
     
    Then use the one in Acts 16 and show by contextual study the "was baptized, he and all his, straightway." that the "ALL his" included or did not include babies and why it could not have included babies. 
     
    Would not this be a better way of admonition than a scathing rebuke labeling their practice (that does not affect their salvation in one ioda) false, heresy or any other label you would choose to use? 
     
    One request don't go to the Greek use the English to prove your point,.  Going to the Greek will not help (it generally singles out a single word from the context and attributes the meaning of a doctrine from the man or his organization) this will only confuse and cloud the issue, we are not Koine Greek speaking we are English speaking.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from HappyChristian in Why The Hypocrisy?   
    There was an old man I used to do some free work for in the 90's he told me that they used in in the WWII to describe a man who was a coward. not that the soldiers name was killroy.  I think I got it about as correct as he told me.  I heard the old shipyard story about it but no one has officially verified that one either.  I like the old veterans story on why they used it it may not have originated there but it fit why they used it.
     
    This is all I know about WWII my grandfather was shipped off with 35 friends from Chicago for landing in Omaha Beach in France.  Out of the 35 he was the only one who survived.  He never spoke of it.  But one day my brother was talking about paint ball battles he was into back in the early 80's and I watched as my Grandfathers face turned red, one thing we knew was if his face turned red he was angry.  Then all of sudden he sternly told my brother that if he really wanted to go into battle to go join the army.
     
    It was my Grandmother who told us about his friends and that landing on Omaha.   She Hailed Mary for 7days she said because she hadn't heard from him.  then a week after the landing, an officer was calling all his friends families but she never got a call so she knew he made it.  It was two weeks before she got a letter saying he was ok.  After that I had a lot more respect for him those who made it deserve that at least.  He died in 91 of cancer, a Roman Catholic.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Covenanter in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    Is false practiced based on false teaching or interpretation?
     
     
    I don't think Steve, Geneva, Covenator or anyone disagrees with the basic fundamentals laid forth on this sight.
     
    But to argue endlessly over no gap or a gap is not necessary false seeing it is based on ones interpretation.
    water baptism of adults is clear but did they enter the water and then John poured water on them or laid them back into the water is moot seeing the scripture wording can be interpreted either way and when we look at the wording as to the fact God poured out his spirit on believers and we are baptized by the Holy Ghost could his pouring be an example as to how John did it?  Baby baptizing though is clearly not spoken of but again some interpreted "he and all his" as including infants.  Well would you immerse a baby?  I think not so pouring would have been done if any had done it.
    Is Musick done only with instruments or is singing also musick?  Interpretation is what leads to opinions on musick the Bible teaches both? Whether classical or pop, piano or organ, hymns or spirituals they are all interpreted as correct means of musical worship.  My rule of thumb if it moves the flesh it should not be used.
    Tithing (not going there) but again some put the law of tithing for Israel on the church and some do not.  It is ones interpretation.
    Dispensationalism (one interpretation study method) verse those who do not hold it as the way to rightly divide.  Are these reasons to label a person a heretic, false teacher or some other nomer?
     
    Every word of God is important and should be considered.  That is why it is important we are just as familiar with the WORDS as we are with the doctrines, the prophecies, and practices of the Bible and why we need to ask the who, what, why, when where, which and how.  We need to look at and conclude what is for the body of Christ and what is for Israel as that is important when it comes to the kingdom that is promised to Israel and their ultimate promised inheritance of the earth to rule over all the earth.
     
    There is so much that we don't know and if you are like me you have changed some views on some doctrine, some practices and some prophecy over the years as you study.
     
    After I had some PM with Happy today a scripture came for me of course.  I was trying to see how I could be or write that it did not come across negatively, Hard or berating, and this scripture came to mind.  1Peter 3:8, 9 "Finally, be ye all of one mind, (ye is a plural English word so it is meant for everyone) having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful (it does not mean to act pitiful but to have a broken heart for some), be courteous:  Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing".  I hope I can fulfill these in my forum life here and Should not we all strive to do these as well.
     
    I have personally had OBserved Steve over the years on different forums and have even had disagreements with him.  but as I OBserve his posts over the last month one thing I see is Steve has had some deep changes in the way he presents his ideas and how he reacts.  He has grown.  I hope that I have grown as much as he has over the last few years.
     
    I know of a few others here and have had contacts with them and each of them has grown and matured and I hope that as we interact we will all be a blessing to each other whether by way of sharing, teaching and reproving.  For that is what we are to do in forums and as brethren.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Genevanpreacher in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    Is false practiced based on false teaching or interpretation?
     
     
    I don't think Steve, Geneva, Covenator or anyone disagrees with the basic fundamentals laid forth on this sight.
     
    But to argue endlessly over no gap or a gap is not necessary false seeing it is based on ones interpretation.
    water baptism of adults is clear but did they enter the water and then John poured water on them or laid them back into the water is moot seeing the scripture wording can be interpreted either way and when we look at the wording as to the fact God poured out his spirit on believers and we are baptized by the Holy Ghost could his pouring be an example as to how John did it?  Baby baptizing though is clearly not spoken of but again some interpreted "he and all his" as including infants.  Well would you immerse a baby?  I think not so pouring would have been done if any had done it.
    Is Musick done only with instruments or is singing also musick?  Interpretation is what leads to opinions on musick the Bible teaches both? Whether classical or pop, piano or organ, hymns or spirituals they are all interpreted as correct means of musical worship.  My rule of thumb if it moves the flesh it should not be used.
    Tithing (not going there) but again some put the law of tithing for Israel on the church and some do not.  It is ones interpretation.
    Dispensationalism (one interpretation study method) verse those who do not hold it as the way to rightly divide.  Are these reasons to label a person a heretic, false teacher or some other nomer?
     
    Every word of God is important and should be considered.  That is why it is important we are just as familiar with the WORDS as we are with the doctrines, the prophecies, and practices of the Bible and why we need to ask the who, what, why, when where, which and how.  We need to look at and conclude what is for the body of Christ and what is for Israel as that is important when it comes to the kingdom that is promised to Israel and their ultimate promised inheritance of the earth to rule over all the earth.
     
    There is so much that we don't know and if you are like me you have changed some views on some doctrine, some practices and some prophecy over the years as you study.
     
    After I had some PM with Happy today a scripture came for me of course.  I was trying to see how I could be or write that it did not come across negatively, Hard or berating, and this scripture came to mind.  1Peter 3:8, 9 "Finally, be ye all of one mind, (ye is a plural English word so it is meant for everyone) having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful (it does not mean to act pitiful but to have a broken heart for some), be courteous:  Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing".  I hope I can fulfill these in my forum life here and Should not we all strive to do these as well.
     
    I have personally had OBserved Steve over the years on different forums and have even had disagreements with him.  but as I OBserve his posts over the last month one thing I see is Steve has had some deep changes in the way he presents his ideas and how he reacts.  He has grown.  I hope that I have grown as much as he has over the last few years.
     
    I know of a few others here and have had contacts with them and each of them has grown and matured and I hope that as we interact we will all be a blessing to each other whether by way of sharing, teaching and reproving.  For that is what we are to do in forums and as brethren.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Genevanpreacher in Why The Hypocrisy?   
    oh no that is the ugliest dog I ever saw that is for sure.  I liked it because it looks like black Yoda.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from MountainChristian in Repentance And How To Properly Share The Gospel   
    Paul never used the Law to show a Gentile that they were sinners and/or to lead them to Christ.  He didn't even use it to lead Jews to Christ  and for us to do so is to use a NON BIBLICAL means of evangelizing.
     
    Paul may not of had the New Testament he did have the Holy Ghost and direct Revelation from God himself.
     
    I don't know who this Les guy is but anyone who says there are errors in the AV Bible is someone I would not listen too no matter how correct they are on right division.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from wretched in So Where Was Baptism For Salvation In The Ot?   
    No No NO the Author relates the choice to to suffer with the people "esteeming the Reproach of Christ" not to the knowing of Christ Jesus Personally.  That is where you are missing the point and the truth of the verse.  He Esteemed the "Reproach of Christ" not  he chose to "know him".  If you are not familiar with the typology here in reference it is that Moses was a type of Messiah/Christ and it is that reproach he bore BY his own faith not faith in Jesus, not knowledge of Jesus but being the Anointed of God to lead the people. 
     
    Are you willing to esteem the reproach of Christ as Moses was?
     
    You are a Christian which means literally you are an "Anointed one"  Christ means "Anointed" and -ian means One of Another.  Hence if more people understood that a True Christian is an "anointed one" and the implication of it. we too by faith would esteem the reproach of Christ better than the things of this world.  This is what is wrong with Christianity today change the word water it down and make it that we are just followers.  But we are much more than that. We are anointed ones because we have that anointing of the Holy Ghost.  Many just want to live in this world and its ways and be a follower and tell you "don't look at me but at Jesus"  When what this world needs is people to look at who are walking each day in the reproach of Christ and the power of the anointing that is imputed to us through out faith on his finished Work.  This is what Moses knew nothing about.  What he knew he was called of God to lead the people as an anointed of God, out of Egypt.  this is why he chose to suffer with Israel and esteemed the reproach of Christ better than the things of Egypt.  He chose to be what God called him to be the anointed of God to lead the people out and any time you chose to follow God you will be reproached.
     
    As Paul said, Php 3:17-21 ¶ Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.   (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:  Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)   For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:  Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from JimsHelpmeet in Why The Hypocrisy?   
    But Because He Lives is such a spiritually encouraging song.  Boy if he judged all the songs in his hymnal that way you all wouldn't be singing much.
     
    do you all sing "A mighty fortress is our God"?
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from JimsHelpmeet in Why The Hypocrisy?   
    almost all the Hymns can be found on MIDI and if your sound device plays MIDI you can get most of the music  The prOBlem is most of the MIDI accompaniments are very old styled organ sounding.
     
    My wife is Sandi Patty style too.
     
    I think it is useless to come to a final decision on an issue like this.  But the more the music moves the flesh than the spirit the more I stay away from it.  Shame about Ray Boltz.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from beameup in Repentance And How To Properly Share The Gospel   
    you're quoting a message to a JEW under LAW, PRE CROSS and this has nothing to do with Salvation for the CROSS has not taken place yet.  This is all OBeying law if you want to live in the Kingdom and then take it to the next step Sell everything and follow Christ, and if he did it and lived it then he could enter the Kingdom (either by resurrection of the martyred saints or enduring to the end of the tribulation) where he would get eternal life by eating of the fruit of the Tree of Life or if he died before the kingdom came then at the judgement he would be given the right to enter in the New Jerusalem and eat of it. 
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