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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to Ukulelemike in John Calvin Had It All Wrong   
    OFF TOPIC for a moment:
     
        I notice that, as we have removed those from the forum who clearly stand for false doctrines, LIKE the reformed position, here we are, all of us ultimately in agreement on the subject at hand, and still we are fighting over such things as, 'should we even care what a reformed person believes about his words' and 'does it matter how they define terminology?'.  Are are all of us against the doctrine, all agree it is wrong, but now, we aregue over how we deal with it. That's pretty sad, folks.
     
      I guess it boils down to, do we want to successfully discuss the subject with a Calvinist or not? If not, that's fine, it doesn't matter how they define terms, let them continue. If you want to discuss it with them, you'd best understand what they mean when they talk, or there's going to be a lot of confusion. 
     
    Like many false groups, Mormons, JW's Catholics, etc, Calvinists change the meanings of biblical terminology to fit their doctrine. Ask a Mormon about gospel, and they will say they believe it. If we don't know that for them, the gospel is all about one's way of life, and not the death for our sins, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, we might well go on our merry way thinking they are saved. A good example there is Glenn Beck. So with the Calvinist, if we want to discuss it, we'd best understand what they mean when they speak.
     
    I guess my point it, after reading so much here, we all seem to agree-but we are arguning minute, non-issues about the subject at hand. Are we so desirous to argue that even in agreement we must argue?
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in John Calvin Had It All Wrong   
    Dave is on the right track.  Calvinism is not using rightly defined terms of the Bible.  Definition of all words used in a bible believers doctrines should be defined from the Bible because it has its own built in dictionary. these definitions are there for us to rightly divide and rightly come to sound doctrine.
     
    If Calvinist use a plethora of English and Greek dictionaries to establish the meaning of words then those meanings are not necessarily of God or of His Word the AV Holy Bible.
     
    First establish the meaning from God's word then establish your doctrine from those meanings and contexts.  If they are not there in God's words then they are not the Doctrines of God.
     
    Jesus said it this way, John 7:16, 17 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.   If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.   Calvinism cannot make its own doctrine it must be of God's word.  the way to determine is to study out (God's will for us is to study), the words in context and define the meaning from those words contexts.   The way to know if it is of God and see if it is of the word of God, is to rightly divide and define those words from Scripture context.  When we do this, we see that Calvinism is of man and not of God because it fails to study out the meanings in the Bible and its context.  the proponents of Calvinism (like JW's) go to Greek and English Dictionaries to establish the meanings and ignore God's words, found in the ONLY Book of his word's, the AV Holy Bible.  The link I posted earlier to the article on Calvinism the person who wrote it does just that.  Studies the words according to God's word and establishes the contextual meaning and set forth sound doctrine that Calvinism is not Biblical in any way.
     
    Take time to go back and click the link and read through the article.
     
    They are not just important they are the basis upon which we build sound doctrine without them we are teaching the doctrine of men and devils.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to Ukulelemike in When Is The Church Not The Church?   
    The difficulty is in getting people saved, or getting them in the fellowship.
     
    in fact, there is a pseudo-denomination that only refers to itself as 'the church'. That's great, but what are they? I agree we shouldn't have to add to ourselves a label, but labels have been added since believers were called Nazarenes, or That Way, or Christians. There has always been a need to identify the followers of Christ, and from the ones we see in the Bible, like I have mentioned above, though these were terms given by men, often as an insult, yet they were embraced and used to identify themselves, or for others to identify them. Why should we not? Men don't define us, we define ourselves-I have chosen to be called independent Fundamental Baptist because I believe the terms, while not specifically used in scripture, (except Baptist), they are biblical things.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from MountainChristian in My Son James And Lyme's Disease   
    yes, and while at the doctor Monday he found another tick but apparently it had not been on him long.  It was not a dear tick but a regular dog tick.
     
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to Ukulelemike in When Is The Church Not The Church?   
    There are local, new testament churches, to which 98% of the NT references are written, and there is the church, overall, the full body of all believers, (despite how many may argue against that, it IS biblical). 
     
    The building is not the church, though there is nothing wrong with giving a local body a name with 'church' in the title, to identify it as such. There is little difference between the church at Galatia and Bible baptist church of Herlong. We give them more of a name now, because with so many false groups calling themselves churches, we add so we can identify what we are. If I just say the church at Herlong, well, many will ask, Which One? The AOG? The SBC? The BBC? the Catholics? the mormons? We identify further in the name to show the difference. We may hate denominations, but they DO help to identify WHAT we are. Not necessarily a right/wrong issue, but a necessity today.  
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to HappyChristian in Choosing A Church   
    We all know what your point was.  Just because someone doesn't act and talk like you dictated doesn't mean they aren't biblical. You take too much upon yourself to pass that kind of judgment.  Cease and desist (even though you said you'd stop, you didn't).  No rebuttal is necessary.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from John81 in My Son James And Lyme's Disease   
    yes, and while at the doctor Monday he found another tick but apparently it had not been on him long.  It was not a dear tick but a regular dog tick.
     
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Invicta in Shamanism Or Cutting-Edge Christianity?   
    the native american religions were much like the Buddhist and Hindus religions as these all incorporate meditation, fasting, chanting, and rythemic sounds or music.  The Buddhist use a form of chanting along with spinning a large brass bell which makes a steady resonating sound at a certain pitch and tone.  the participants sits in a cross legged position and chants a saying like "I am that I am" and spins the bell.  Often this assignment is given and they must do these chants for many hours.  the bell resonates as it spins and the chanter chants his mantra or verse, the first 15 minutes the body mechanisms are not activated but after 30 minutes the brains secretes a natural pain reliever known as endorphine. it is pumped into the blood to help keep the muscles from cramping, and then after 45 minutes it continues to pump it to keep the ears from hurting.  All the while this is done at a fast pace so Adrenaline is also pumped into the body at the same time.  the longer it is done the more Adrenaline and the more Endorphine is pumped into the body after 45 minutes the body becomes overdosed.
     
    Now I mentioned this before about Charismatic groups and loud music along with jumping or dancing in their churches creates the same effect on the body. and after 45 minutes people begin to have spiritual experiences.   Most often the participants will report having visions or some other sort of spiritual experience.  But it is nothing short of being high on drugs that the body naturally produces to protect itself from harm.
     
    Now if so called Christian churches are incorporating this sort of thing into their worship practices we would not expect it to be any different than the Buddhist, Hindu or Roman Catholic religions when it comes to their claiming to have some sort of spiritual experience.  It is the error of YWAM and other liberal Christian groups to allow the culture of people to remain and just adding a little bit of Jesus.  I always say if the Bible teaching is different than your culture you must give up your culture.
     
    God did not set up the Jewish religion in any way for this type of thing to happen nor when our Lord started what is today labeled the Christian church was it set up to have these types of experiences.  This is what our society has been doing to the us via the different educational tools like TV, Music, Literature etc, to create a desire in the hearts and minds to have experiences and possess power.  Experiences do not prove that one is saved or that one is on a true spiritual path. But as I have OBserved many want to have POWER if not over people over things like bending spoons, or levitating or communication with spirits so others will look up to them as special or gifted (pride).  All of these things religious things whether practiced in a Christian church, another religion or in secular homes are nothing more the doctrines of the devil, to fulfill his word's "ye shall be as gods".
     
    In my own spiritual walk to desire power to heal, or do miracles is a dangerous place to be, and at the other end to have knowledge and wisdom of that like Solomon is also dangerous.  (Please don't take that last statement wrong, we are to have these but often we get prideful over our the amount of knowledge we have and then it has become a curse more than a blessing).  we must learn what Paul said, 1Cor 13:1-3 ¶ Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.   And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.   And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
     
    The church is on dangerous ground when it gets into desiring to have so called spiritual experiences over proper knowledge and charity via the Holy Bible.  It is on dangerous ground when it thinks that it can take parts of human culture or human religious practices and incorporate it into Christian practice.  We must teach the truth, stand on the truth and beware of these things especially in this generation that desires a sign rather than truth of the word of God.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in Shamanism Or Cutting-Edge Christianity?   
    the native american religions were much like the Buddhist and Hindus religions as these all incorporate meditation, fasting, chanting, and rythemic sounds or music.  The Buddhist use a form of chanting along with spinning a large brass bell which makes a steady resonating sound at a certain pitch and tone.  the participants sits in a cross legged position and chants a saying like "I am that I am" and spins the bell.  Often this assignment is given and they must do these chants for many hours.  the bell resonates as it spins and the chanter chants his mantra or verse, the first 15 minutes the body mechanisms are not activated but after 30 minutes the brains secretes a natural pain reliever known as endorphine. it is pumped into the blood to help keep the muscles from cramping, and then after 45 minutes it continues to pump it to keep the ears from hurting.  All the while this is done at a fast pace so Adrenaline is also pumped into the body at the same time.  the longer it is done the more Adrenaline and the more Endorphine is pumped into the body after 45 minutes the body becomes overdosed.
     
    Now I mentioned this before about Charismatic groups and loud music along with jumping or dancing in their churches creates the same effect on the body. and after 45 minutes people begin to have spiritual experiences.   Most often the participants will report having visions or some other sort of spiritual experience.  But it is nothing short of being high on drugs that the body naturally produces to protect itself from harm.
     
    Now if so called Christian churches are incorporating this sort of thing into their worship practices we would not expect it to be any different than the Buddhist, Hindu or Roman Catholic religions when it comes to their claiming to have some sort of spiritual experience.  It is the error of YWAM and other liberal Christian groups to allow the culture of people to remain and just adding a little bit of Jesus.  I always say if the Bible teaching is different than your culture you must give up your culture.
     
    God did not set up the Jewish religion in any way for this type of thing to happen nor when our Lord started what is today labeled the Christian church was it set up to have these types of experiences.  This is what our society has been doing to the us via the different educational tools like TV, Music, Literature etc, to create a desire in the hearts and minds to have experiences and possess power.  Experiences do not prove that one is saved or that one is on a true spiritual path. But as I have OBserved many want to have POWER if not over people over things like bending spoons, or levitating or communication with spirits so others will look up to them as special or gifted (pride).  All of these things religious things whether practiced in a Christian church, another religion or in secular homes are nothing more the doctrines of the devil, to fulfill his word's "ye shall be as gods".
     
    In my own spiritual walk to desire power to heal, or do miracles is a dangerous place to be, and at the other end to have knowledge and wisdom of that like Solomon is also dangerous.  (Please don't take that last statement wrong, we are to have these but often we get prideful over our the amount of knowledge we have and then it has become a curse more than a blessing).  we must learn what Paul said, 1Cor 13:1-3 ¶ Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.   And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.   And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
     
    The church is on dangerous ground when it gets into desiring to have so called spiritual experiences over proper knowledge and charity via the Holy Bible.  It is on dangerous ground when it thinks that it can take parts of human culture or human religious practices and incorporate it into Christian practice.  We must teach the truth, stand on the truth and beware of these things especially in this generation that desires a sign rather than truth of the word of God.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in Anyone Remember When   
    the Jesus People group of the 60's broke up into three groups, 1) the Jesus People (still active today), 2) Calvary Chapel and 3) Vineyard.  From what I have read, Maranatha music and Vineyard music came from these churches and are the two main promoters of the Girl/boyfriend/God Songs known as CCM.  Not all CCM is wrong, songs like In Christ Alone would be an exception (the original is Classical orchestration and not Rock style).
     
    CC once touting to be biblically balance started going off balance before Chuck passed on, he was in the hospital from 2010-12 and did very little in leadership those two years.  The current leader Brian Broderson(sp?) was leading during that time.  Once Churck died all --- broke loose.  We separated in 2011 after confronting the leadership and got a "well if you don't like it leave response".  So we disassociated.  We are currently Independent Bible Believing.
     
     
     
     
    ~Edited to remove curse word...speaking of the place in light of how scripture uses it is fine, but not in general as referenced here. Moderator. ~
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in Anyone Remember When   
    20 years ago it was getting drunk on the holy spirit and the proponents called themselves holy ghost bar tenders.  Now the new generation they are the token the holy spirit and they are the holy ghost dealers.
     
    Bunch of trash
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from HappyChristian in What He Said   
    Thanks Happy I did n't realize until after I posted that you had addressed the issue.  I wasn't going to get into a debate or argument over it I just wanted her to be sure I had not said she was a feminist.
     
    Moving along now.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from HappyChristian in I, Me, My   
    That is exactly what took place in 2012.  We should vote to try and get the best and the least basest person in.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to HappyChristian in I, Me, My   
    Which is what has been happening as more and more people quit voting...
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from HappyChristian in I, Me, My   
    Then you would get the worst of the basest of men.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from EKSmith in I, Me, My   
    He is a sin filled unsaved man and we could not expect any different from such a man.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to John81 in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    Take the Word of God for what it says, even if it's not fully understandable to you at the present time. The Holy Ghost may open our understand at another time, or perhaps we won't have a full grasp of it until eternity. Regardless, we can take the Word as right and true and live accordingly.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Bro K in My Son James And Lyme's Disease   
    They started James on 500mg Amoxicillian twice a day for 10 days.  And took out a large vial of blood.  the nurse said he did better than most big people do.  He barely cried but it was uncomfortable for him.
     
    Thank you for all your prayers.  One thing we can all agree on is God answers prayer.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from HappyChristian in My Son James And Lyme's Disease   
    James test did come back negative but the doctor says he is doubtful it is correct as the ring is as he said "sure fire proof".  He still wants him to go through the 10 days of Amoxicillian.
     
    Thanks for all your prayers.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Invicta in Philemon   
    I am not sure but brother cloud is not the authority the Scriptures are.  and the truth of the matter of which language Jesus spoke the Bible itself does not tell.  None of us were there and just because the NT was mainly in Greek does not prove that is what he spoke.  The books of the NT were written after Jesus Ascended and were written in the language of the day.  We have no originals as some claim we have only copies of Originals.
     
    When someone infers that Jesus spoke in Greek it is at best an opinion, a conviction, and a speculation on the one making the inference.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Alimantado in "traditions"   
    what is even more amazing is that I don't read the "day's of praise" or have any publication of theirs in my home.
     
    It was placed on my heart yesterday and I thought I would share it as I was looking at the Bible to determine what were the traditions Paul taught especially as it seems he was pointing to the Second Epistle to the Thessalonians as containing those Traditions.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Covenanter in "traditions"   
    what is even more amazing is that I don't read the "day's of praise" or have any publication of theirs in my home.
     
    It was placed on my heart yesterday and I thought I would share it as I was looking at the Bible to determine what were the traditions Paul taught especially as it seems he was pointing to the Second Epistle to the Thessalonians as containing those Traditions.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Covenanter in What About Our 'own' Convictions?   
    #1 I never once question anyones mode of Baptism
    #2 The point is the actual Mode was not clear in the English Text
    #3 The modes of Baptism are personal Convictions
    #4 Not once did I interpose any rewording or questioning of God's word.
    #5 Baptism is the clearest area in Scripture that different people have differing convictions of mode because the scriptures are not clear but there are other things as well.  See Philemon thread.
    #6 Each can have hold to their conviction but the other should not label them heretick or false teacher if they don't hold the same conviction on baptism or any unclear area of scripture.
    #7 Have Grace upon people convictions, supposition, assumptions and interpretation.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in My Son James And Lyme's Disease   
    They started James on 500mg Amoxicillian twice a day for 10 days.  And took out a large vial of blood.  the nurse said he did better than most big people do.  He barely cried but it was uncomfortable for him.
     
    Thank you for all your prayers.  One thing we can all agree on is God answers prayer.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from MountainChristian in My Son James And Lyme's Disease   
    They started James on 500mg Amoxicillian twice a day for 10 days.  And took out a large vial of blood.  the nurse said he did better than most big people do.  He barely cried but it was uncomfortable for him.
     
    Thank you for all your prayers.  One thing we can all agree on is God answers prayer.
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