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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in Christians That Are Falling Easy Into This World Traps...   
    All scripture is interpreted the same way "literal" however we are never commanded to interpret scripture we are commanded to study and to rightly divide scripture.  Interpretation is from one language to another and that is already done in the AV from the TR and other documents.
     
    The study of English scripture is done differently depending on the literature type which consist of Poetry, Proverbs, Parables, Narratives, Epistles and Prophecy.  In these we will find different figures of speech like Hyperboles and Allegories.
     
    Once you identify the literature type you go into asking "who, what, when, where, why, which and how" of the scriptures.
     
    When you have completed your your study with the seven questions, you use what you found to bring out an application for every day life situation for yourself.
     
    Then you put it together to form a teaching/preaching.
     
    P.S. If you reinterpret the English scriptures then it becomes a private interpretation.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from wretched in Christians That Are Falling Easy Into This World Traps...   
    You have to be careful with Strong's Period because he has placed Classical Greek definitions to Koine Greek words.  The reason is  because there is no Koine Greek Dictionary and the Koine Greek documents have many variants or meanings for the same Koine Greek word.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to Musician4God1611 in Christians That Are Falling Easy Into This World Traps...   
    2 Timothy 3:16 Says that all Scripture is given by inspiration of God. Last time I checked, Proverbs was Scripture. If Proverbs is Scripture and was given by inspiration of God then to say "Solomon wrote it in Proverbs, not a thus saith the Lord." is blasphemy. And last time I checked blasphemy is sin (even if drinking isn't).
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in 3 times in one life-time   
    There is one thing that has happened to me over and over again no matter where I have been.
     
    I have time and again come across turtles and tortoises. Two times crossing the road in front of me and about 6 times across my path since I was 6. I have found then in my yard, in the wild in streams while hiking, at a lake while fishing I caught one, across paths while hiking, and in the water swimming both in Hawaii and the Philippines.
     
    The odds of one man who is not looking for turtles coming across them as often as I have are high. 
     
    I just figure the Lord is telling me to go slow and steady no need to rush.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in Job   
    I think it was Elihu
     
    Job 32:6, 15-16 ¶ And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion . . .  ¶ They were amazed, they answered no more: they left off speaking.   When I had waited, (for they spake not, but stood still, and answered no more;)
     
    It seemed he might have been the scribe and when they left off talking he decided to give his opinion.  Which is recorded in the word of God thereby it is inspired and preserved.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in It Is Not For Kings   
    I shared in another thread about a man who went into a restaurant and ordered a beer then went over to my firends table and started talking ministry.
     
    Well anyway his excuse for drinking was he was having a rough day.
     
    When you rely on alcohol instead of God to help you handle the stress of life you are already in the wrong as a Christian.
     
    Right now at this moment I am in the most severe pain.  I turned around last week and my back went out.  I went to the doctors got an xray and learned my disc between L5 and S1 is as thin as paper and almost all gone from absorption.  The pain is non stop and severe.  For five days I had no medication what so ever but I still did not resort to drinking alcohol for some relief.  I prayed continually for the Lord to give me the ability to endure the pain.  At times I was crying as it hurt so bad.  Imagine a grown man crying like a baby.
     
    I have had meds for the last three days but they are pretty addicting so instead of taking them as the Doctors prescribed I only take them before bedtime at night just so I can sleep without pain for at least a few hours.  I still wake up in pain but I put on an ice pack and pray the lord help me endure without taking any more of the drugs.
     
    When men resort to using alcohol to change their attitude i.e. their heart, they are going the wrong direction away from God not closer to him.
     
    I am a child of God via the Cross of Christ.  If I am his body why would I want to defile his body by drinking Alcohol.  I am the King's Body and wine is not for Kings nor strong drink for princes.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in It Is Not For Kings   
    "The Son of man is come eating and drink­ing," had absolutely no reference to alcoholic drinks whatsoever.  Rather, it was a statement which con­trasted the open life style of the Lord Jesus to the secluded life of John the Baptist.  Jesus was simply making a statement that, while John the Baptist practiced seclusion when it came to the choice of dining with others, Jesus was not quick to dismiss an invitation to eat at other people's tables.

    One might argue that Jesus sat at the table with sinners.  While Scripture reveals this to be true,  it still does not say He drank alcohol.   One has to insert into the Scripture what is not there in order to put alcohol in the Lord’s hand.

    What does the Word of God say?  Would Jesus have drank alcohol?  If He did, what kind of example would He have been for the lost?  Every man that ever became a drunkard started with one drink.  If that man were honest with himself and with God, he would admit that that first drink had an effect on him…. It caused him to want more.  The more he drank, the more he believed he could handle the alcohol.  And The more he thought he was in control, he was not.

    Instead, the alcohol was controlling him.

    Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

    Alcohol has the power to deceive a man.  The way it works on the human body is very deceptive.  The first organ it attacks is the brain.  That is why it is able to deceive.  That is why man believes he is in control when, in reality, he is not.

    Would Jesus have drank alcohol?  Absolutely not!  Jesus was, is, and always will be, the King of kings.

    Proverbs 31:4-5 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink: Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    Jesus Christ is declared to be the Prince of Peace.  It is not for kings to drink wine, nor for princes strong drink.

    John 12:15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.

    Jesus Christ entered Jerusalem just days before His crucifixion, sitting on an ass’s colt, just as Scripture declared the King of Sion would.  It is not for kings to drink wine, nor for princes strong drink.

    Those who insist that Jesus drank alcohol are as guilty of the same error as those falsely accusing Him in Matthew 11:19 and Luke 7:34.

    It is not for kings to drink wine, nor for princes strong drink.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in Shepherding The Flock - To Be Biblically And Spiritually Minded   
    Thought for Meditation

    In order to be Biblically and spiritually minded, 
    rather than worldly and carnally minded,
    an individual must be daily reading, studying, and meditating 
    in the truth and wisdom of God's Holy Word.
    Romans 12:2 
    And be not conformed to this world: 
    but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, 
    that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

    Proverbs 2:1-5 
    My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; 
    so that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding; 
    yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; 
    if thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; 
    then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God. 

    Proverbs 8:34-36  
    Blessed is the man that heareth me, 
    watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors. 
    For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD. 
    But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

    Colossians 3:16 
    Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; 
    teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, 
    singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

    2 Timothy 2:15 
    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, 
    a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, 
    rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Joshua 1:8 
    This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; 
    but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, 
    that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: 
    for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

    Psalm 119:97-99 
    O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day. 
    Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: 
    for they are ever with me. 
    I have more understanding than all my teachers: 
    for thy testimonies are my meditation.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    maybe he doesn't know it.

    1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV) 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

    jeffrey has already demonstrated the fact that the things of the Spirit of God are foolishness to him.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to TheSword in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    As we've seen throughout this thread, the content of the wine at the Last Supper is debatable and the problems with observing Communion at Corinth went far beyond wine. Additionally, there is quite a bit of evidence from the early writings of the church that the cup of Communion was heavily diluted with water and not really something you could get drunk off of.
     
     
     
    I'm sure that's part of it, but not the whole. Another part is the overwhelming stand that Christian clergy of all denominations take against alcohol, yet so many Christians drink anyway. Another part is that it shows Christians to be no different than the rest of the world while claiming holiness and righteousness.
     
     
     
     
    True, we should be known by our love for another. Loving through action is absolutely important; but when our actions display a deeper concern for ourselves and our own wants, then we've missed the mark. Christianity certainly is not about rules. It's about following Christ completely and without any reservations. It is radical abandonment of self in favor of the will of God. If biblical principle is clear that God's will for His people is to abstain from something, then we should abstain out of love and reverence for Him and what He did for us on the cross. If God's will for His people is to go out and do something (such as witness to the lost, care for the afflicted, etc), then we should do that regardless what we would rather be doing. Sometimes I feel like I'd rather play a video game than go out soulwinning, but I go anyway because it's what God would have me do. Sometimes I feel like looking at the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue would be entertaining, but I don't because God doesn't want me to be lusting after any woman but my wife. Sometimes I feel like a beer would taste really good, especially during a football game or maybe with my burger and frieds, but I don't have one because I care more about representing Christ than I do about what passes over my tongue. Right, wrong, or indifferent, American culture as a whole views alcohol and Christianity as incompatible. By that alone we should recognize the need to stay away from it because we don't represent ourselves, we represent Christ. Therefore our focus everywhere we go and in everything we do should be what brings glory and honor to Him and what wins souls. I can't think of any valid scenario in which someone's acceptance of the Gospel message requires that I have a drink in my hand, but I can come up with many that having a drink in my hand to turn them away from it.
     
    The first and great commandment is to love God with all that we are. That means His will above ours. The second is to love our neighbor as ourself. That means putting the good of others over ours. If winning someone to Christ, or keeping them on God's straight and narrow path hinges on our testimony, then maintaining a pure and unquestionable testimony is our number one priority on this earth. Unless you're a shut-in who has absolutely no contact with another person, your testimony matters.
     
    So here's a self-check question for both drinkers and abstainers. Do you want to drink/not drink alcohol for your benefit or for someone else?
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    Sword it is no use this man is perverted the word's of God and he got this from his own teachers in IL.  They use Duet a scripture to the Jews and apply it to the church today as if the church today can do it.  They are to take what today, their tithe and offering money and buy alcohol to drink to glorify the Lord?
     
    I thro Not.
     
    he should be banned this thread will be a stumbling block to many who are weak and when they come across this teaching of his and say "i have liberty to drink alcoholic beverages so I can glorify the Lord or to have cheerful heart before God"  but one drink after a few days will not be enough to cheer them and they will graduate to two then three then a bottle then into  cases.  Many will fall by this, mark my words and the Lord will judge him harshly.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from 1John2:15-17 in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    You are a false accuser of the brethren in claiming I am mad/angry.  You cannot add an emotion to my post because you cannot see my face or body language to make such an accusation.  You sin in accusing me of being mad/angry.  I have not been mad.angry in any of my posts.  Plus being mad/angry in not a sin in and of itself for we are commanded  Eph 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
     
    I am offended that you think it is ok to drink alcoholic beverages to glorify God.  that is your offense. 
     
    And your posting should have never began as many weak and addicted type Christians will read it and see your claim of glorifying God in drinking alcoholic beverages and once again get entangled in sin.  You will be held in high accountability because of your teaching in this thread.  At this too I am offended.
     
    This is my judgment you should not openly admit to drinking alcoholic beverages and advocate that doing so is to glorify God in public as it will weaken others as it already has.
     
    And my brother you are the one who needs to grow up.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    IT IS NOT YOUR BLESSING TO CLAIM!  Your reading someone else's mail and claiming for yourself.
     
    Duet is all connected to appointed feast worship for ISRAEL not a Christian Gentiles living in St Charles IL.
     
    You twist the scriptures to make yourself a JEW under Mosaic Law to attend feasts at a place of worship that does not exist today.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    You are a false accuser of the brethren in claiming I am mad/angry.  You cannot add an emotion to my post because you cannot see my face or body language to make such an accusation.  You sin in accusing me of being mad/angry.  I have not been mad.angry in any of my posts.  Plus being mad/angry in not a sin in and of itself for we are commanded  Eph 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
     
    I am offended that you think it is ok to drink alcoholic beverages to glorify God.  that is your offense. 
     
    And your posting should have never began as many weak and addicted type Christians will read it and see your claim of glorifying God in drinking alcoholic beverages and once again get entangled in sin.  You will be held in high accountability because of your teaching in this thread.  At this too I am offended.
     
    This is my judgment you should not openly admit to drinking alcoholic beverages and advocate that doing so is to glorify God in public as it will weaken others as it already has.
     
    And my brother you are the one who needs to grow up.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    Your bias toward alcohol has you slaughtering the Word of God... To the detriment of your authority of Biblical interpretation.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    So it is safe to say by this reply that the clear scripture not to drink alcoholic Beverages because it offends, weakens and stumbles your brother in Christ in your opinion does not need to be followed because you don't understand or see that the commandment of Romans 14:21 as a reason not to drink alcoholic beverages?
     
    Romans 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
     
    Since when is God's word dependent on your or my opinion?
     
    Roms 14:21 is not my opinion it is the commandment of God.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Ukulelemike in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    this thread is to justify their liberty to drink alcoholic beverages. 
     
    But if the drinking of alcoholic beverages offends, weakens or stumbles it should be avoided for the sake of the brethren Roms 14:21.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from swathdiver in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    So it is safe to say by this reply that the clear scripture not to drink alcoholic Beverages because it offends, weakens and stumbles your brother in Christ in your opinion does not need to be followed because you don't understand or see that the commandment of Romans 14:21 as a reason not to drink alcoholic beverages?
     
    Romans 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
     
    Since when is God's word dependent on your or my opinion?
     
    Roms 14:21 is not my opinion it is the commandment of God.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from John81 in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    So it is safe to say by this reply that the clear scripture not to drink alcoholic Beverages because it offends, weakens and stumbles your brother in Christ in your opinion does not need to be followed because you don't understand or see that the commandment of Romans 14:21 as a reason not to drink alcoholic beverages?
     
    Romans 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
     
    Since when is God's word dependent on your or my opinion?
     
    Roms 14:21 is not my opinion it is the commandment of God.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    So it is safe to say by this reply that the clear scripture not to drink alcoholic Beverages because it offends, weakens and stumbles your brother in Christ in your opinion does not need to be followed because you don't understand or see that the commandment of Romans 14:21 as a reason not to drink alcoholic beverages?
     
    Romans 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
     
    Since when is God's word dependent on your or my opinion?
     
    Roms 14:21 is not my opinion it is the commandment of God.
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    AVBibleBeliever reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    until they accept the truth, they have liberty to walk after the lusts of their eyes and flesh.

    Of course, while they are advocating putting alcohol to their lips, they are rejecting walking in and with the Spirit of God.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    It is too late I know your drinking and it has already offended and weakened me.
     
    So what are you and Jeffery going to do about?
     
    Obey God's word and stop drinking alcoholic beverages?
     
    Or
     
    Disobey God's word in in Romans 14 and continue in your liberty that offends and weakens me and others?
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    2Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
     
    The AV Holy Bible is already interpreted for you all you need to do is study, rightly divide, and apply it. 
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Miss Daisy in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    I am a weak Christian because I wont drink alcoholic beverages and am offended at a Christian who does.
     
    I am a spiritual dwarf compared to Jeffery and GraceSaved.
     
    Forgiven me Lord for my lack of spiritual understanding and strength but I will not drink alcoholic beverages as they do because I am weak.
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    AVBibleBeliever got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in In Defense Of Alcohol, God's Blessing To Man   
    If you remain in your disobedience to Romans 14 then you are not glorifying God in your drinking Alcoholic Beverages nor are you in God's will on this issue.
     
    No one is shaming you but God's word is clear.
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