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  1. Winman  read completely through Psalm 51 being lead by the Holly Spirit depending on Him to reveal the truths rightfully dividing the truths of the word of God as I have maybe you will understand I'm not quoting nor interpreting 51: 5 and then maybe you'll not accuse me of not rightly dividing or misinterpreting the word of God. though I'm spirit lead.

    Also my friend I'm not preaching  I'm just giving some correction were it is needed in hopes of a better understanding of the Word of God.


    God Bless 

  2. Psalm 51  was written sometime after David 's sin with Bathsheba ( 2 Sam.11:3,4) the Psalm gives expression to why David was a man after God's own heart, he was not perfect,but had a sensitivity to sin, one can notice this especially of the first person singular. " mine iniquity, ''my sin, my transgressions.the first two verses are an introduction of petition ,meaning this use of four figures of forgiveness, after confessing his guilt (v 3-6) David prays for inner renewal ( v 7-12) and promises thanksgiving and ministry (v 13-17 ) this passage clearly teaches that those who have failed God may be restored to the services of God. the prayer " take not my Holly Spirit from me" here Davids cry may reflect fear, not reality, of losing the Spirit , and being rejected by God. he ask God to restore the "Joy" of this salvation, not salvation itself.


              Now may we take a look at Psalm 51:5 used to identify a infant going to hell


    Psalm 51:5 " Behold I was shapen in iniquity and in my sin did my mother conceive me"


    The Word sin appears in verse 5 in the singular, it denotes the Sin Nature of humanity, this Sin Nature , which everyone possesses influences us to sin and is the source of lust, it negatively affects peoples mind. lets take at look at Rom 1:28 


    Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge , God gave them over to a reprOBate mind, to do those things which are not convenient.


    "God gave them up" this giving is not permissive , God lets them do what they want, and withdraws his gracious help, they are blinded not because God withdrew His light but because of the judicial acts of God He delivered them over to the natural result of their unbelief and action.( their Sin Nature )

    The Sin Nature is partially responsible for blinding peoples thoughts and understanding , so they cannot perceive spiritual things .again we look to 1 Cor 2:14.,

    1 Cor.2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them , because they are spiritually discerned.

    Although our sin nature continues to operate within us, It was judged when  Jesus died on the cross. Amen 

    Rom 6:6-7 Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed , that henceforth we should not serve sin. "For he that is dead is freed from sin.

    Until Jesus returns , we must live in the strength of the new man, to overcome the sinful desires arising from the the Sin Nature , we can not eradicate our Sin Nature , but we can allow the Holly Spirit to control us so that we do not give into temptation.

    Now we can clearly see that Psalm 51:5 relates not only to Davids Sin Nature but to the Sin Nature of Humanity.

                                         Now lets take a look at 2 Sam 12:13 


    We find here in 2 Sam 12:23 David does not refer here to the child as being in hell. but in Heaven with God' 


    2 Sam 12:23 But now he is dead , wherefore should I fast ? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me..(I shall go to him) David trusted God to graciously care for the soul of the dead infant , whom a believing David would join in the presence of God after his earthly life was over. again can we relate to this scripture here to infant/ child death and eternity in Hell ?

                 There is to much of this teaching to cover all of it so I will limit myself


    Quote- as Jesus had not been born at this stage-  this was concerning Jesus in the Old Testament. 


    John 1: 1 -2 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God

    We learn here that " In the beginning with God signifies the perfect fellowship between the Father and the Son in eternity . '' The Word was God '' emphasizes distinction in the Godhead, this phrase stresses the essential unity, The Word was with God " the Word thus emphasizing Jesus divinity.

    John could not have expressed the full divinity of Jesus more completely.

    Jesus is called the Word of God , this phrase occurs over a 1,000 times in the Old Testament to refer to the message of God. Jesus is the expression and communication of the Word, He is both the incarnate and the inspired Word. thus we clearly see Jesus in the Old Testament in which we may know Him as God, the Father and the Son. 




    Until you can prove through the scriptures of the Word of God, that infants/children at death go to hell I will rebuke such teaching, I have presented in short to you this message in hopes that you will study God's Word with understanding through the Holly Spirit which indwells in all Christians to discern the truth of Gods word. I will be praying for you my friend. 

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