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  1. Naaaah! Forget it, last time we discussed this, immature "Christians" lit up phones and email at my church. Oh yeah and posted names of elders at my church, real nice
  2. I know what he is saying. I'm just trying to get him to admit that he never read the book and that he can't get past the title, even though Piper explains it perfectly
  3. I'm praying right now Wretched that God open your eyes and reveal what He has shown me, bro, Jesus is so wonderful, His Grace, His Love, His Mercy!!!!
  4. Here's the point YOU intentionally missed! The Word became flesh, lived a perfect life,shed blood for my sins, died a cruel death on a cross, and raised three days later for my justification!! Along the they way the Pharisees hated Him because Jesus pointed out their hypocracy. For their adherence to the Law and having no compassion. He called them vipers, open graves, and thy scorned Jesus because he ate with, dare I say it? Sinners!!!!! You know them, they lowly, the meek. And the Pharisees hated him more. Jesus showed them their hypocracy. They said John the Baptist didn't eat it drink wine so he must be crazy, Jesus ate and drank wine( and may I add, made the best wine ever for a wedding) and they called him a drunk and glutton. I see everything perfectly now, it's you who has blinders on! Take them off Wretched, there's a beautiful world God created for you to share with others and show Jesus how awesome he really is!! Praise His Holy Name!!!!
  5. I'm ignorant, why don't you let me in on the secret?
  6. No prOBlem with what you wrote Mike, makes sense. But; how do you reconcile John 15:16 or Eph 1:4?
  7. It can be both, I have liberal tendacies and conservative tendacies, nOBody is all the same and you are lying to yourself if you think you do! As for your warning, go ahead! It proves to me what I learned about IFB's after I left; isolationist who hide from the world rather than try and win it for The Lord.
  8. So you cant be a liberal and be a IFB?? really?? do you see that in Scripture? Isnt God liberal with His mercy and grace and love?? By the very fact that He saved you, show that He has a liberal side?
  9. For 20 yrs, I have given my "testimony " here before.
  10. this statement makes no sense, If I didnt want to follow Christ, i would intentionally avoid this place, I live for him and I am here, so how do you explain that? BTW, and who is avoiding what?? do you ask yourself this question?? who is the one avoiding issues??
  11. First off, your not holy for what you do, will do or desire or will, It's Christ, death, burial and Resurrection that makes us holy Second, your quote,.."grace" to live as they please., I don't think you understand what grace is and how believers react to it. First, If you read my post, I say that from what I was exposed to is what i base my experiences on, many on this very site have been gracious and Christlike towards me, Candle Light;Salyan: Happy Christian: UkuleleMike,... I agree. My best friend is IFB; He is closer to me than my own flesh and blood brother.....we have our disagreements, but we are still close Here is what Paul wrote leading up to Romans 6 (Focus on verse 17) 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. 17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disOBedience many were made sinners, so by the OBedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. If you believe that believers want to run and sin "under grace", I might have a suspicion that you are Semi-Pelagianist, Irony? Colossians 2: 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11 in whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14 blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:17 which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,19 and not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. 20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? 23 which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh. Hint:this is the key to that statement, your life of standards won't allow you to love anyone because nOBody can or want to live to your standards wow, just wow!!! i am literally speechless SMH, I dont even know where to begin with this statement.. this is what Fundamentalism does to you!!! you want a picture of it?,here it is
  12. It's called Goth, kids wear make up that gives them a pale appearance along with dark eye shadow and dark nail polish
  13. What would those lustful living issues be Dave?
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