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    Left the Bldg reacted to KJV in Babies Go To Hell!   
    (Here is some advice before I give my returning argument. Before you go worrying about whether babies go to hell or not when they die, you should worry about you.)
    1.      Are you saved? Did you take Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior and can you remember a specific moment?
    2.      Do you feel guilty about sinning? While saved people can sin, they have the power not to sin. Lost people neither know nor care that they sin.
    (If you have said “no” to either one of these, you might not be saved.)
    (Anyway, your argument appears to be more of a rant than anything else, because it is not well-supported and keeps jumping subjects.)
    (Your verses:)
    51: 5
    Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. (True: Because we are the offspring of Adam, we too have a sin nature. This sin nature is what allows us to sin, without being taught and at an early age.)
    Psalms 24:4
    He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. (This verse does nothing for your argument.
    (Note: Both verses you use come from the Old Testament.)
    Romans 7: 9
    For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. (In this verse, Paul is saying that he was born spiritually alive, but when he sinned, he experienced a spiritual death. That is because, when a person commits one sin, they are guilty of the whole law. [James 2: 10])
    Luke 16: 22
    And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; (Before Jesus died for the world, no one could go to heaven. Not even Abraham went; he went to “Abraham’s Bosom [as mentioned by Jesus in a parable] because God made the promise that he would not parish.)
    (You can’t hide from God in a “backward” country.) Mark 4: 22; Luke 8: 17
    (God also manifests Himself to the whole world.) Romans 1: 17-20 (It is a “darkened heart” that prevents us from knowing Him.) Verse 21
    (Know I am sure you know of the verse John 3: 16) For God so loved THE WORLD… (meaning that Jesus died for everyone.
    And while there is NO way for me to convince you or any other person to get saved, because it is only in God to reveal Himself to you, it is through hearing the Word that people can know.)  Romans 10: 14 (Remember the “darkened heart”?
    In conclusion, we are “born alive”, then “die” with our first sin. In which time, our hearts are “darkened” to God. We then, hear the Word, which makes us more open to God’s Word, so that God is able to draw us to Him. We can then either accept or reject Jesus as Lord and Savior. And God speaks to all people at some point in their life, through his people, Christian missionaries who go all over the world.
    And since we are “born alive”, babies don’t go to hell.)
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    Left the Bldg reacted to Deb2live4Christ in Babies Go To Hell!   
    The New Testament in reference to Moses said...Hebrews 11:24-27 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

    [but the important point to remember here is that this occured in the OLD Testamant. Before Jesus, the requirements for Salvation were very different. OBviously Moses did not go to hell eventhough He never accepted Jesus as his Saviour - he could not have done, as Jesus had not been born at that stage. In Old Testament times, to belong to the Jewish race (God's chosen people) was sufficient qualification to ensure a place in Heaven, so long as you did not break the laws of the Prophets. But since the New Testament, it is imperative to believe in Jesus to get to Heaven.]...He believed in Jesus the Christ of God...

    By Faith...same today as in Old Testament...what say ye of Hebrews?

    [babies, and young children who die before they are old enough to understand the gospels and worship Jesus, unfortunately go straight to Hell. This is a Bible fact, and anybody who disagrees is guilty of heresy.
    I trust that I have sucessfully refuted the heresies of the lieberal element that have been smearing the internet with their new-age, pluralist (aka satanic) lies.]

    And what say ye of...Matthew 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

    if then they are so hell bound then why, would JESUS say this the above of them...

    Jesus was written of in the of and was to believed in the Old Testament...Luke 24:44-45 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me...concerning me...
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    Left the Bldg reacted to Bro K in Babies Go To Hell!   
    II Samuel 12 tells of the death of David's child. Vs 23 states "But  now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
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