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Gorship

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  1. Best idea would be to toss a paper airplane up there with "read me" written on the wing. As he opens it you can detail your disappointment in full and explain that he needs to repent on the spot. as he is reading, send another airplane to the piano player, with the same "read me" written on the wing. When she opens it, have written: "as the piano player comes and plays softly" (he/she will know whats up). No baptist can resist soft music and a firm rebuke and not make a point to hold an impromptu alter call. Glad to be of service.
  2. Is there a plan to get the forum back on tapatalk?
  3. I understand he doesnt go through all the verses of calvinism. Honestly - in my expierence, chasing verses is a waste of time. You will always just come back to "well your interpretation is wrong!", "no YOUR the wrong one". on and on and on. Calvinism is inconsistent within itself and implodes if you run it out logically. Now you can be a consistent calvinist and there are many (RC sproul for example). Those people you wont convince. How do you convince someone that God wants all people saved when they believe God hand picked those for hellfire ? you don't you explain why their view of God
  4. he is unqualified for his position. /thread.
  5. Made king and confirmed king. http://av1611.com/kjbp/faq/ahaziah.html
  6. I could use some guidance. While I agree with many, many wonderful convictions of the "IFB" church. I am struggling with a lot of practices in the church, and really don't know If I "fit in" with anyone. Which on some levels is a bit depressing. Im annoyed with hobby horse preaching (Just preach the text please!). There is no doubt there are way too many scandals that are recorded in the IFB. Im tired of everytime I say I go to an IFB church and I believe in preservation, the first thought someone comes to is a youtube video of some preacher saying Homosexuals will never be able to repent.... You can't say IFB without someone equivocating that anymore into something completely opposite of how a redeemed people should be treating a fallen world. Just struggling with this whole denomination. However, to where do I go? SBC? While decent I don't believe in an overarching body. Plus as a KJV guy Ill be mocked at the door. "Evangelical"? well im not reformed. Weslyan? well I believe God keeps His children safe....

    Frustrating.  

    1. John Young

      John Young

      You have to remember that every IFB church is different and independent of each other. It can decribe a movement of independent Baptist churches at most but it is not a denomination. Independent Fundamental Baptist is a description that any independent baptist can use or not as they wish to identify themselves. I typically tell people that we are an Independent Baptist Church. The Fundamental moniker I typically reserve for other Baptist who want to know "what type".

      If you look around you'll probably find a conservative Baptist church that you can feel at home in but if not there are also some independent bible churches that use KJV as well which hold to the same baptist faith as many IFB but without the "stigma" of the title. I also heard some Calvary Chapels are good but I have never been to one.

    2. Alan

      Alan

      Jordan,

      IFB churches are independent churches; it is not a denomination. What Hyles, Ruckman, Anderson, Waite, etc... has no bearing on me nor the church I stated nor my home church. I imagine you have attended, or am currently attending, an IFB church that may not preach from the scriptures as much as you think he should. I do not know. None of the churches that I attended, or started (I have started four churches), uses none of the material of these men.

      I do know that the problems of the various IFB churches that I hear from other brethren here on OnLine Baptist is, in my opinion, exaggerated.

      The devotions that I have written here on OnLine Baptist, along with the studies that I have written, are mostly sermons and teachings from our Sunday school at the church that I started and currently the pastor of. If you look closely, you will see that all (or mostly all), of them are textual, with very little reference to some of the problems that you mentioned. From the IFB churches that I have attended, these textual messages (with very little hobby horse material), is standard fare. 

      It is my hope that that Lord gives you wisdom and guidance in you life.

      Alan

       

    3. Salyan

      Salyan

      Come on up to Canada - up here, no one knows what you mean when you say IFB - therefore, there are no previous misconceptions. :D

      Seriously, though, each church is different. I've no doubt there are 'hobby horse' preachers - but there are also an awful lot of simple expository preachers (I could name you a dozen in this area off the top of my hat - and we've got about 1 church every 2 hours!). Keep looking. 

      Not that I want to encourage you to go Evangelical, but just to set the record straight, not all Evangelical churches are Reformed (I actually don't know any that are?). The problems with those churches are that they gave up on standing firm on good doctrine long ago, and now they are quite wishy-washy - they don't know how and when to stand. 

  7. I ask this for your opinions, thoughts, and insights. I sometimes post on another board and (hopefully its ok) I would like to link a thread that is going on over there. NOT so that we can all march over there and say "huzzah! you're wrong!" but rather I would like to have this discussion on here. I will probably be starting another thread I would like to get some more opinions on that is in tandem to this thread but worthy of a secondary set of thought patterns. Without futher ado this is the link: Click me! So the thread there is pretty simple: Apparently DBS
  8. I really want to understand the debate but, read the first two pages and dont understand the disagreement lol
  9. Genesis 1:1 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. We will be looking at this text today. I would like to first however, do some equipping for all of us. To some this may be review and to some this is completely new. Before we get started in the first verses of scripture, I would like to look at the nuts and bolts of how we are going to understand our Bible. Further to that I think we should look at why it’s the Bible we study. How do we know its trust worthy? And then finally how do we understand it. This is to empower you all with the ability to know how to always be abl
  10. Well Shalom! Have not been around to post for at least a year, Wasn't terribly active then - however I would like to find an online outlet of believers who share common beliefs and values. I understand we wont agree on everything, however, that shouldn't stop fellowship. anyway, hope to be around more often. JG
  11. Welp that convinced me lol.. sigh. Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk
  12. lol so are you full on Arminian right here? you call me friend but have done nothing thus far but cast stones in my direction, you are far from "friendly". what does it mean to "Redeem" would be our first question: So for porn, since its very nature is that of adultery, to redeem it, would be definition 6, 3, and perhaps 1. and further to it, as I have said, it would be the collapse thereof. for rock music, we are here debating the nature thereof. I am on the side that, just due to a tone or pitch, or distortion in an instrument. or a scream or a yell in someones voice, that does not di
  13. Redeemed pornography would be the collapse thereof. Satan has made his choice against God so no.
  14. Yup, I like brians response. Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk
  15. my bad sir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEXPe_bAgCU I know him as "bible husky" as that's what I type to find him on YT, I think his real name is brian delinger? (spelling?) lol
  16. Appreciate the responses, very helpful thank you. Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk
  17. I really like OB, I do however miss certain people that got removed from the forum. Although sometimes I think stones are quickly thrown for silly disagreements. Overall I think everyone means well. Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk
  18. So I have this issue where if an author, is calvinistic, non kjb, post trib, non creation. I just dismiss them anyone just disqualifies them and I'm wondering if I'm really hindering my reading and study, although at the same time I'm wondering if perhaps this is just a leading to spend full time invested in the word until I feel comfy dividing between writings of authors I don't agree with. How about you? How do you decide what's worth investing time into or not? Sorry about formatting OB and tapatalk don't like making paragraphs.. Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk
  19. Last night I couldn't keep a connection to ob, if I switched my IP on my VPN I could get in briefly then shut down again. Very odd. Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk
  20. Anyone listen to Brians response to KH position on end times? What are you thoughts on him "being tortured to a post trib position". Just wanted to start a discussion on the topic since KH will probably get started in ministry asap now. Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk
  21. If I can be redeemed, anything can hahaha Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk
  22. i seem to have been shut down for posting in this thread, will pm you my response John I've learned to understand it, some bands are indistinguishable without lyrics infront of you lol. As for the comfort piece, I don't know if I could give a satisfactory answer to appeal to everyone. So without going into a long winded explanation about where I came from pre christ etc. I find the raw emotion, to come from deep in my heart. It feels authentic to sing to with everything I have vs the alternatives. Petras version of amazing Grace obviously isn't as heavy as that. (second thief is on one of
  23. If I didnt care, I wouldnt have replied to your comment. I find your arguments non convincing, according to you (it would appear) its cause you feel im spiritually immature and a weak christian. As for the record labels, yes, metal music. I find Metal a whole lot more soothing when I've a rough day vs bluegrass or a 4 man acapella group. I get nothing out of those things. but this: " 3. Count It Blessing When I see the wicked gain the upper hand When the righteous fall and are persecuted And the children beg for water and shelter And it feels like all the walls are caving in Rejoice! In
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