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  1. Good morning Steve In your response to “Standing Firm In Christ”, you said........ “Not arguing about the tithe....just saying that I think your interpretation of Gal. 6 is incorrect. "Communication" in the passage is a reference to giving, albeit not tithing. Galatians 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. Philippians 4:15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only. Hence we interpret the unclear
  2. Hello Steve Thanks for the link........ http://www.onlinebap.../15472-tithing/ But I was very surprised(and disappointed), after looking over all 45 posts on this thread, and all I saw was “opinion”, after “opinion”, after “opinion”, after “opinion”, after “opinion” etc,... I NEVER saw EVEN ONE SCRIPTURE REFERENCE, with the exception of one vague reference to Matthew 18:, ?? ------------------------ I sited two SCRIPTURES and Standing Firm In Christ, responded with a handful of SCRIPTURE references..... This is how Christians are to get to the bottom of any issue! --------------------
  3. This subject came up, because not only have I been hearing this “channel” message from my pastor over the last two years, but I have also heard this same message, from almost every guest speaker and visiting pastor that has come to our Church during that time. And the last time I heard it, was last Sunday night; When a visiting missionary on deputation, talked about it(in no uncertain terms), and he also pointed out how this was not your tithe, because as He put it.... “Our tithe is the Lord’s and He will get it one way or the other, by a flat tire or a broken water pipe, etc.” Now in my m
  4. A popular teaching in the IFB Churches that I have been in, is the idea that the Lord wants us to be channels of money... “When ever we receive unexpected money, we are to simply hold on to it and wait for the Lord to tell us who He wants us to give it to.” The result of being a good channel(we are told), is it proves to the Lord that you can be trusted with more and more money; Never using any of it for yourself but always giving it to others. Now this does sound appealing, but is it Scriptural? ------------------------ I personally know a pastor who practices it, yet regularly ta
  5. As we all know Roman solders crucified Christ, but it was the Jewish rulers that were behind turning Jesus over to the Romans. And it was Satan, that was working behind scenes turning the Jewish people against Jesus. But what was it exactly that caused the Jews to so hate our Lord so much? Yes, He was preaching against their sins and they didn’t like it, but they were very religious people and they “preached” to each other, against “sin” every day. What was it that Jesus preached that got them so upset?..... Matthew 15:1-9 V.1 ¶ Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Je
  6. Hello swathdiver You said..... “Hide the biblical songs that glorify God in your heart Donald and you'll have no use for secular music, especially the kind typically found on the radio.” This is great advice, that I have followed over the years. I love and still use that old traditional music at Church and at home(“Power in the blood”, “Are you washed in the blood”), etc. (Hundreds & hundreds more). Also, the Church that I am now attending, uses the same kinds of songs in their worship service; And although I never make a bid deal out of it, I very rarely have to open a song book,
  7. I only have a second to post this right now, but..... I wanted to make it CLEAR, that none of what I have been saying, is concerning “MUSIC USED IN MINISTRY”, or Church music. ------------------------ When we are ministering to others(or being ministered to ourselves), it is very important that Biblical, Christ centered music be used......... 2 Kings 3:10-15 V.10 And the king of Israel said, Alas! that the LORD hath called these three kings together, to deliver them into the hand of Moab! V.11 But Jehoshaphat said, [is there] not here a prophet of the LORD, that we may enquire of the LOR
  8. This is an interesting discussion, that Scripture does give some light on. But first..... back to the point of this thread. I had never heard that some pastors think that it is sin for a man to have facial hair. And I am sure that some others think that dark glasses are sin, or neck ties, etc. The list goes on and on. The bottom line is, none of these men can give a single Scripture to support their personal beliefs, yet you will hear it from their pulpits. The point of this thread, is that the Lord’s intent of our discussion of this subject is, to open our eyes, that any pastor who pr
  9. Good evening swathdiver I will briefly answer your question, before getting back to my responses to Steve. You asked...... “Donald, are you saying here that one can only really learn and grow through prayer and not the Bible, pastors or preachers?” Of course not...... Ephesians 4:11-12 V.11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; V.12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: ---------------- All of these elements are important and needed(God’s Word, prayer &am
  10. Hello Steve, and thank you for responding. Because of the length of your response, I am only going to be able to respond to the first part it. The first part of your response has to do with Hebrews 5:14.. “But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.” And here are your 4 responses to this part of my OP..... ------------------------ (1) We are to study the Scriptures and go by the Scriptures themselves to determine what is right and what is wrong. You are very inconsistent here. Lat
  11. Hello wretched You said........ “If you were so convinced that the things you allow were right by God's Word (which is the only leading or "voice" we have by the way) then you wouldn't be trying so hard to obtain validation from others on this site.” As I have made it clear, from the time I came to this forum, “I have not arrived yet” and “I don’t have all the answers”. And to that end, “irishman’s” post(above), is exactly the ANSWERS that I am looking for. A GREAT RESPONSE, with lots of SCRIPTURE and no SARCASM! Irishman’s response has given me A LOT to study and think about, while yo
  12. I have done some serious thinking & praying, in seeking “the Lord’s intention”, of the last few threads I have started here. I say “the Lord’s intent”, because I try very hard never to say or post ANYTHING, unless the Lord is laying it upon my heart. (First of all, just because the Lord laid these ideas upon my heart, does not mean that the resulting OP’s are anything special, or can’t be questioned or corrected.) The point being, of today’s thread, is to state what I feel may be God’s purpose in my last few messages. ------------------------ The subject that has been being discusse
  13. This is true; But you are forgetting THE NEXT VERSE........ “I the LORD search the heart, try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, [and] according to the fruit of his doings.” (Jeremiah 17:10) I have been aware of Verse 9 for many years, therefore I daily(hourly), ask the LORD to search my heart and try my reins and reveal to me ANYTHING that I need to deal with. It is from this perspective that I am even able to minster. ------------------------ What I mean is, God takes “SIN” very seriously; And we can not be expected to be used by Him to minister to others, if we
  14. Good morning John and thank you for your response. I know that I may come-off as just a “trouble maker” here on this forum; But the last thing I want to do is cause trouble. I feel(in my heart), that the Lord has led me to say the things I have said, in an effort to “help people”, in their walk with the Lord and in their ministry to others. ------------------------ The fact is, you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. Therefore if anything is to be accomplished in people’s hearts, they need to be provoked, so as to examine where they are really coming from. I praise the L
  15. -THE PROBLEM THAT WAS BEING ADDRESSED- This thread started out addressing a problem and it disintegrated into a thread about rock music. This was partially my fault for allowing it to go in that direction, but it needs to be put back on track. The problem being discussed here, is the production “weak Christians”. Christians that don’t know their Bible and are being led around by the nose, so that they aren’t forced to grow up in Christ. Clearly this is a real problem, because of the strong opposition I have received by addressing it....... 1 Corinthians 16:9 “For a great door and effec
  16. Hello again Steve It is always interesting to hear from you and I always seem to learn something from your responses. ------------------------ You said....... “Grey Area Theology" is an excuse for many to do what they want to because "the Lord has not spoken to me" on this issue. But that is the opposite of how a Christian is to act:” You are not the first Brother in Christ that I have met, that has QUESTIONED the FACT that our Heavenly Father is still alive and on His throne in heaven and is actively communicating with His children. This expressed ignorance of His close interaction wi
  17. Recently, on another thread I had a discussion about “avoiding sin”; But the fact is, “sin” isn’t the only thing we must avoid......... “Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset [us], and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,” (Hebrews 12:1) There can be things in our life, that can “harm us” Spiritually, that are not sin. What we need to do, is ask the LORD to identify these areas in our life(that are weighting us down), so that we can lay them aside. Then we s
  18. This question or issue about when the Church actually started is more important than you might think: Because it effects so many other Doctrines. The fact is, the Church was stared in Acts 2:, in the upper room. But some teach that the Church was in existence during the Lord’s Earthly ministry that is recorded in the Gospels: And to prove this they refer to the definition of the word “Church”(a called out assembly). And although the Church is a called out assembly, it is much more that. For instance, Jesus said....... “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I w
  19. Hello Steve You said....... This is leadership 101. As a God-called preacher, you should be aware of the fact that you are responsible for how you lead God’s people BY EXAMPLE as well as by teaching (I Timothy 4:12). The people you preach will do what you do. They will rarely – if ever – go beyond your standards, and generally stop short of your standards. Praise the Lord, I have been aware that others will(and have), followed my examples; Therefore I have been very careful to always be a “Godly” example to everyone I come in contact with. One of the examples that I have made sure to pr
  20. Brother please forgive me. I am very familiar with God’s WARNING in Romans 14, not to cast a stumbling block before your brother; And clearly I did that with you. (And thank you to the moderators for removing my links.) -------------------------------------------------- Now, I need to more carefully proceed with this discussion, if it can even be discussed. I say that because we seem to be at an impasse: That is, you and I are in COMPLETE AGREEMENT about the “current pop culture”: It is wicked and ungodly and leading people into Spiritual bondage. But the Kind of music I have been t
  21. A true “Oldy but goody” (One of my favorites)..... Note: Removed by moderator. Rock music may be discussed, but not permitted on this forum. Tell me what you think about it.
  22. Hello Steve Schwenke Thank you very much for your thoughtful response. This is EXACTLY what I have come here for! I have indeed been called to preach and to be a pastor and have pastured 3 Baptist Churches over the last 23 years. And although I am presently “between Churches”, I am SURE, that the LORD has plans for me in the future; And I am SURE that the Lord is using me today to minister in several different areas, even though I don’t have a pulpit. I much appreciate your warning....... “I think the bigger problem is that (1) too many preachers are mentally lazy, and don't like to st
  23. Hi swathdiver You said........ “You're right Donald, these songs don't feed our spirit, just our flesh. Please don't take this as us being harsh, just trying to help each other out.” I need all the help I can get. As for these songs, “feeding my flesh”..... I don’t think they do. Because they don’t seem to hinder my walk with the Lord at all. (Although I don’t listen to music while studying or praying, because they distract me.) But on occasion when I need a distraction, they are useful. ------------------------ You also said..... “There are thousands of fleshly songs that I used t
  24. Hello HappyChristian Thanks for your response. I am going to try hard, not to “defend myself or my posts”: Because they are just not that important. But I would like to get to the bottom of this issue. You said.... “Enjoying life doesn't mean hedonism...and enjoying the good of all of a man's labor really doesn't have a lot to do with listening to music that creates fleshly desires in one...” The most important statement in this paragraph, are the last 7 words... “music that creates fleshly desires in one” A Christian should NEVER do ANYTHING, that “creates fleshly desires” in himsel
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