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  1. In my experience, talking to liberal “professing” Christians who hate the KJB, I have discovered that they also hate dogmatism. (As for why they hate dogmatism, that is anybodies guess;) But the fact that the KJB is recognized as an authoritative copy of God’s Holy Word, it promotes dogmatism among believers and this just seems to drive them up the wall.
  2. I have recently heard it said, that when it comes to verses and passages in God's Word..... They can have “one meaning” and “many applications". I can think of a few examples where this could be true, but is this the right way to phrase it?
  3. Hello beemeup Although I do use concordances & commentaries on occasion, and we should NEVER be afraid of any true "scientific literature”(because all real science agrees and backs up the Bible)...... I draw a line at archeological findings, including the Dead Sea Scrolls, because WE ALREADY HAVE GOD’S COMPLETED WORD!! That which is “perfect” has come, therefore that which is “in part”, can be done away with. As for “other ancient writings yet to be discovered which will reaffirm that Jesus was indeed The Messiah of Israel”... All that, will be “extra-Biblical” so therefor will no
  4. Hello HappyChristian In all fairness, this pastor doesn’t actually say that “God would have overlooked their sin and their need for Him, if they made coats”; (because the message he is preaching, on these occasions, is about a need for more modesty.) But he does stress, that what God was displeased with(in Adam & Eve), was their nakedness. And he doesn’t say anything about their disOBedience and rebellion. --------- And I am glad to hear, that this practice(of twisting what this passage in Gen. really means), is not as widespread as I thought. But I know this pastor well enough, to
  5. As I have demonstrated in some of my previous threads, I have some prOBlems with what seems to be “established IFB teachings”. And I have learned from this forum, that all IFB’s are not the same. Today’s thread has to do with Adam & Eve and what they did themselves, to cover their nakedness. This is what the Bible says they did....... “And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.” (Genesis 3:7) The IFB pastors that I am hanging around now seem to teach, that if Adam & Eve had sewed fi
  6. The answer to my situation may be, the fact that Jack Hyles had a university associated with his Church, where hundreds of “preacher boys” were sent for training, over the last 25 years or so. Therefore they have an association with one another in such a way, that every visiting preacher/pastor that fills a particular pulpit, may come from the same background. Therefore for some of us he(Jack Hyles), may seem like a bigger deal than others. I wouldn’t disassociate with someone simply because they came out of this background; Just as I wouldn’t favor someone who did. All that should matter
  7. I became an independent fundamental Baptist, from a different direction than most people, so I am not as informed as most of you are, about it’s structure. My question is, how predominantly is “the Jack Hyles factor”, embedded in the IFB. The crowd of IFB’s that I am now involved with, look up to him(his memory and ministry), as the apex of all IFB endeavors. Regularly quoting him and talking about His Church, as the greatest thing, this side of heaven. While I, feel differently about him and his ministry. At this point, I should point out that I have never visited his Church nor listen
  8. Hello swathdiver A quick look at the context seems to point to this talking about our “Baptism in the Spirit”:(The one that happens at the moment of our salvation)...... First because this baptism “event” is called... “the operation of God”(V.12) Also, this baptism “quickens” us..... “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;” (Colossians 2:13) While, our water baptism, is simply an act of obedience that God blesses.
  9. Recently I started reading through Matthew Henry’s commentary of the New Testament and in the preface a long drawn out(but good), discussion of the canon of the Bible is covered and from it I have been reminded of some things. ➀ The arguments or attacks that I have heard over the years by some, against it, can be quickly and simply dealt with, by the reminder that the members of God’s Churches each have the Holy Spirit and that the LORD Himself has seen to it, that His Word was protected and preserved; Therefore over the centuries the individual 66 books of the Bible have always been seen as
  10. Hello candlelight and thanks for the clarification. I am acquainted with one such individual, who professes to be a Christian, but rejects salvation by Grace; Who recently got hooked up with some “Jewish church” in our town, that sounds as “off the wall” as he is. The fact is, the Bible warns us of those who will “call themselves Jews” but aren’t really Jews at all. Satan has plenty of lies to go around, in order to send as many people as he can to hell. But praise the LORD, He PROTECTS all those who are TRULY looking for Him and are willing to BELIEVE the truth when they hear it.....(Mat
  11. I realized this morning for the first time, the REASON behind the differences between the REWARDS God promises to the Jew and the Church. On the face of God’s Word, we see that the rewards God promised to the Jews were PHYSICAL while the rewards God promises to the Church are SPIRITUAL. Well this morning while studying in Romans 11, I took a closer look at verse 7... “What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded” (Romans 11:7) ------------------------ Over the years I have seen this verse as explaining HOW tod
  12. Hello musician4god1611, nice to talk to you You said....... I have to say I was really getting a blessing out of this, and then you hit the last part and that just about totally ruined my morning. I refer not only back to the verse that "I Am Chief" made mention of, but also to 1 Thessalonians 5:22, "Abstain from all appearance of evil." Sorry for messing up your morning, but sometimes it is good to be knocked out of our comfort zone. And I also am careful, to abstain from any appearance of evil. But what I do in my own home(that is not sin), doesn’t cross this line...... “Hast thou fait
  13. Hello John81 You said..... There is no way to avoid all things secular. The choice comes in our response to and dealings with secular things as well as with regards to whether or not we are going to purposefully expose ourselves to things secular; to which we must determine what secular things are sinful and what is not. Sure enough, Heb.5:14 seems to be talking about the subject of determining which secular things are sinful and which ones are not. ------------------------ Next you said.... Hebrews 5:14 does not tell us to touch, taste, experiment with or indulge in sinful things in ord
  14. Good morning I am chief You said.... “I have to fight my flesh and things of this world almost on a minute by minute basis.” Brother I do the exact same thing every day of my life! Therefore the last thing in the world I would ever want to do is “feed my flesh”. Thus came the contradiction that I have discovered over the years of daily striving to walk closer and closer to the Lord. That is what this thread is about; The contradiction that “working hard” to be “Holy”, in some cases seems to produce an ungodly attitude. While simply having a heart’s desire to be Holy, produces a Godl
  15. Does “secular”, equal “evil”?
  16. One of my daily devotional duties, is a monthly recital of my memory verses(to keep them fresh in my mind), and today I came to a verse that seemed to start changing my mind about an issue we have discussed. The verse was....... 2 Corinthians 5:17 “Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” Now I have intensely studied this verse hundreds of times over the years, that it has been a memory verse(every month when I come to it), and today was no exception. But today, as it often happens, when I came to this ve
  17. Hello Jerry Numbers You concluded your response with this question..... “Oh, how many of us really wants God will to be done on earth as it is in Heaven?” Well I think anyone who’s heart is right with God, want’s His will to be done. But what these threads have been about is another question..... What is, “God’s Will”? ------------------------ As we have seen, I think God’s will is one thing, while Steve thinks it is something else, while you may think it’s something else. This is why I seem to make such a big deal out of always going back to Scripture for the answer to this questio
  18. Thank you Steve. That was a very respectful and informative response and it has given me something to think and pray about. Just the other day, my wife and I were talking about the error that so many good preachers have fallen into, by “going to seed” on things. I have a personal friend who has gone to seed on the subject of homosexuality; And I know of another pastor, who has gone to seed on the subject of our nations support of Israel, etc. The list seems to go one and one. As my wife and I talked and also later, I started wondering what area I may have gone to seed in. This isn’t ne
  19. Hello Steve and thanks for getting back with me. You said......... “You make it sound like we are preaching our opinions, or like we are overprotective mothers all worried about our children or something.....Why make this assumption? Why can you not accept that what we are preaching comes from our very own convictions about the things of the world, and things that are inherently sinful, evil, and harmful to the Christian? Why do you ASSUME that this is our motive?” My assumption was that you truly care about the people you are ministering to: And I know that is true. As for the fact t
  20. Hello Steve Did you even read my OP? No, you don’t see the problem. I am not talking about music at all; I am talking about “our ministry to others”! (Your ministry and my ministry!) First of all, I am not calling your ministry “wrong” and mine “right”, I am simply pointing out differences in them. ------------------------ In your ministry to “Christians”, you are building theological fences around them, to protect them; The fences you are building around them are barriers to keep them from hurting themselves. You are telling them, that certain things are “SIN”, when these things ar
  21. I just finished listening to(or rather paused in the middle), of a wonderful message preached by CH Spurgeon,.... http://www.crosscco.com/sermons/dare-to-be-daniel-by-charles-haddon-spurgeon/ In part of this message, Spurgeon was preaching about first, “not bringing the theater into the Church”, but then went on to preach(in so many words), that we should not ever attend the theater ourselves, etc. and told us that “this was a general principle” and that we should apply it ourselves. Praise the Lord I was listening to this message on MP3 and was able to pause it and pray then to continue.
  22. Hello I do, much appreciate this discussion. Yes, my pastor does make a point of saying that we won’t make God mad at us if we don’t tithe, but only that we are hurting ourselves. This is how I have also looked at it over the years. I just(as a pastor), NEVER made “giving”, such a big deal, as he does. ------------------------ Standing Firm In Christ; Your opposition to Steve should have ended, when he wrote.... “We agree that there is no direct NT statement that demands a tithe. We disagree on the practical application of the general principle of giving, where it starts, how it oper
  23. I thought that the main point of the passage(that I put forth), wasn’t keeping the Church doors open, but our attitude about giving to God’s work.
  24. Galatians 6:6-8 V.6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. V.7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. V.8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. ------------------------ “Let him that is taught in the word” (THE LOCAL CHURCH MEMBER) “communicate unto him that teacheth” (GIVE TO THE WORK OF THE CHURCH) BECAUSE THE CHURCH NEEDS MONEY TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON! “in all good things.” (
  25. Hello Standing Firm In Christ Let me be perfectly honest; I never thought in a millions years that I would ever be even considering “questioning” the Doctrine of tithing; But my previous encounters on this site and my personal insistence that others produce SCRIPTURE to back up their beliefs, has caused me to apply that same rule to myself. Tithing is something that I was taught from a very young age as a Christian, and I have never questioned it: Because I can see it in the Bible and I couldn’t see any other way that God’s Church could keep it’s doors open. Now this second statement abo
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