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  1. 1% according to http://www.gcatholic.com/dioceses/country/CN.htm
  2. According to CIA Fact World Book, 3 to 4% out of 1,343,239,923 are Christians.
  3. Humble Catholic, research the topic of Protestant reformation and you will find the reason behind our arguments. Also, the Catholic Church was forced to change because of the reformation. Please read the Word of God and learn the truth.
  4. Dave, you are exactly right. Same era, same language, but different argument. That's what irritates me. Like Jerry said, the attack is against God's Word not the language, even thought they use the language as a reason to reject the KJV or any other bible before that.
  5. Shakespeare but not the KJV bible. I was meditating about the word of God this weekend and suddenly an idea just crossed my mind, “Research the work of Shakespeare and the language used”. With all the debates surrounding the KJV bible and the modern versions mostly about archaic words, hidden meaning, etc., I was surprise not to find any issues concerning the language used on the work of Shakespeare. People have problems with the KJV (and earlier Bible versions) but not with Shakespeare's sonnets, first published in 1609. Why? Here are some links with interesting information on Shakespeare and how to handle the language: Language Arts: Shakespeare's Sonnets Quote: “One of the difficulties teachers face when they teach Shakespeare is language accessibility. Twenty-first century students simply have difficulty understanding the words, and so they miss the meaning of his plays and sonnets. This is no small loss. Thus, it is a teacher's responsibility to help students not only understand the language but also to empower them, so that when faced with difficult texts they feel as if they can, with a little effort, appreciate what Shakespeare is saying”. http://www.pbs.org/shakespeare/educators/language/lessonplan.html How to Understand Shakespeare Instructions Choose several of Shakespeare's numbered sonnets to read. They are typically available in some form online--purchasing a book of the sonnets is not necessary. Recite the poems aloud. Underline words you do not understand. Look up the definitions to these words. Explore stylistic critiques of Shakespeare's sonnets. Select a play of Shakespeare’s to read: Othello, Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet, Midsummer Night's Dream are all popular choices. Purchase a copy of the play that contains a history of the play and footnotes. Peruse the history of the play before you begin reading the actual play. Place the character list somewhere that you can easily reference it as you decipher the play. Interpret the play in small sections, underlining and making notes in the margins. Look up any words that you do not understand. Use the footnotes to help you with words that are no longer in popular usage. http://www.ehow.com/how_2057570_understand-shakespeare.html 3. Tips for Understanding Shakespeare Style Extracting Meaning While Shakespeare's plays and sonnets remain popular today, they can be somewhat difficult to read as the modern reader is confronted with unusual sentence structures, wordplay and poetic compressions and omissions. While you are struggling to decipher Shakespeare, remember that more than 400 years have passed since Shakespeare wrote these great works. Although a lot of his vocabulary is still in use, there are some words that are no longer in use, or their meanings have evolved. A good way to decipher what Shakespeare was saying is to read the sonnets or plays line by line. It helps to have a dictionary at hand to help decode unknown words or phrases. http://www.life123.com/parenting/education/shakespeare/shakespeare-style.shtml 4. Reading Shakespeare’s Language Quote: “Don’t begrudge the difficulty of the language—the language is the point! In the words of Vladimir Nabokov’s fictional poet John Shade, the reader should “get drunk on the poetry of Hamlet or Lear” and learn “to read with his spine and not with his skull.”” http://www.calstatela.edu/faculty/jgarret/417/Reading-Shakespeare.pdf I think it is incredible and sad that people (including Christians) are protecting the work of Shakespeare but not the KJV (or Tyndale, Coverdale, Matthew, Great Bible, Geneva, and Bishop’s). Translators of these bibles were using the best manuscripts and gave their all to make the word of God available in English during a difficult period of time when many lost their lives for this cause. We cannot say the same about modern translations.
  6. Melchizedek, I'll be praying for you. That's all we can do for you right now.
  7. Here is some Biblical truth. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:3, 4 KJV) I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. (Exodus 20:2-6 KJV)
  8. But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. (Jude 1:17-21 KJV)
  9. This is a baptist community forum. Why are we arguing with a Catholic? I thought this forum was for baptists only to grow in our faith. Just wondering...
  10. The issue is not women in ministry but the lack of men in ministry. Women are doing a great job ministering to other women and children but we, men, are doing a terrible job taking charge and ministrering to other men and the church. It is our fault that women are doing what God calls us to do. A lot of men are abandoning their roles as leaders not only in church but at home and women have not choice but to lead in those areas. I personally know 5 women that are raising their children and their husbands are not where near. If we want to stop the controversy, then men need to step up to their role, as God intented.
  11. Adamski should read, A History of Christianity by Diarmaid MacCulloch. The book provides the historical explanation about how the Catholic Church decided that clergy needed to be unmarried and the reasons for the cult and followers of Virgin Mary.
  12. I'm a MAC user since 2003 and not going back to PC any time soon.
  13. Not fearing God and His awesome power is the reason why our society is in decadence.
  14. Some people go with the easy and quick win instead of working hard and saving. I saw a young man in Greece once that purchased a scratch card for 10 euros ( $13) and after winning nothing he threw it in the trash. All in about 2 minutes. He was in a park with his wife and 2 kids. Man with the wrong priorities in a country that is going broke.
  15. I recommend the KJV. I was using the NKJV for a while but decided to change because of problems while reading that version. For example: Job 19:17 in the NKJV reads - My breath if offensive to my wife, and I am repulsive to the children of my own body and in the KJV - My breath is strange to my wife, though I intreated for the children's sake of mine body. Also, there is something about the KJV that is not in the NKJV.

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