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    TLC got a reaction from Angelmiss49 in I Need Peace   
    Something that has given me much comfort when I worry or have anxiety is found in Revelations 21:4 "And God shall wipe all tears from our eyes" ... how does one do that? Think of a child who has fallen and hurt his knee. A parent will reach down, lift up their face and with their hand wipe those tears away. MY GOD DOES THIS! For me! Again, in Psalm 3:3, "But thou, O Lord, art a shield for me; my glory, and the lifter up of mine head." Again, can you see the tenderness of the Father's hand as He lifts your face up towards Him and says, "My child, it's okay, I'm here." Take comfort, He is with you, always. Praying for you.
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    TLC reacted to John81 in Church Membership   
    It's true we will not likely find a church where we agree with everyone on every matter. If you decide to leave I will be sad to see you go.
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    TLC reacted to 20JC12 in Church Membership   
    I too would be sorry to see you go. I think each of us no matter how different or same in thinking contribute a great deal to the discussion.

    Peace be with you.
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    TLC reacted to P_Bear141 in Church Membership   
    I would have to agree that it doesn't say anywhere that you have to "join" a church. imo, where it says that souls were "added", I believe that means that they were saved.

    Also, as far the comment "That's liberal thinking", it cracks me up because there seem to be alot of people on this site who are so worried about being liberal that they are very much legalistic. What happened to grace??
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    TLC reacted to heartstrings in Way Of Life - The Women Who Knew Jack Hyles   
    I would say that Brother Cloud loves God, and is dismayed at the horrible goings on under the name and guise of Fundamental Baptist churches.

    Jude 1 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
    4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Any man can profess and proclaim Jesus and Him crucified and at the very same time deny the Lord Jesus by his works. The Bible says to try the spirits. One who willfully teaches false doctrine has an evil spirit and ungodly, blasphemous stuff like "spiritual intercourse" is false doctrine.
    18 When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him, and hast been partaker with adulterers.
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    TLC reacted to heartstrings in Way Of Life - The Women Who Knew Jack Hyles   
    1 Samuel 8:6........they said, Give us a king to judge us.....

    Jeremiah 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

    And old man once told me that people love a religion that is controlling and oppressive. Back then, I thought he was crazy. But he was right. There are multitudes of people who are ready and willing to passionately venerate, blindly follow and gladly enslave themselves to a mere man like a King Saul, or a David Koresh.They will even die for a man like a Jim Jones rather than. live for the Good Shepherd. I just don't get it. I guess it's the same type of spirit which will enable people to gladly embrace the AntiChrist when he comes on the scene.
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    TLC reacted to RSS Robot in Way Of Life - The Women Who Knew Jack Hyles   
    Jack Hyles is dead, but his life and testimony matters, because his influence is so pervasive even to this day. It is nearly impossible, in fact, to entirely escape his influence among fundamental Baptists. 

    I am continually amazed at the pastors who defend Jack Hyles, denying that he was a moral reprobate as well as a dictatorial cult leader.  

    One pastor wrote to me recently to say,

    “Jack Hyles was a personal friend. I knew the man. I have listened to over 1,000 sermons on tape which he preached in his own pulpit in the 70s and early 80s. I attended at least 12 Pastors’ Schools. I sent students there and hired graduates from HAC. I have sat in his office and he in mine. In fact, he has sat at my table in my home. It is easy to sit decades later and call that ministry a cult. Were there problems, particularly in the latter years? YES. But a cult, no. Hyles certainly had enemies --  back then, more so. Many rumors and much slander developed, some of which continues to rattle around to this day. You call him a liar. That is a strong statement. I knew the man first hand. You only know about him from a distance and years later. You call him an adulterer. However, the same deacons who investigated and fired Jack Schapp also investigated the charges of adultery against Jack Hyles and exonerated him.”

    The pastor continued in this vein at some length, proving himself adept at building straw men, creating smoke screens, and straining at gnats.

    In light of the firsthand testimonies that have been published, this pastor is simply closing his eyes to the truth, for whatever reason. There is a gross lack of spiritual discernment at play here. 

    It is a frightful fact that man’s will drives his discernment. If a man doesn’t want to believe something, he simply will not believe it. This is why the atheist doesn’t believe in God and why the devoted Roman Catholic doesn’t believe his church is apostate. But even a saved man can deceive himself. If it were not so, the Bible would not thrice warn in the New Testament Epistles, “Be not deceived.” 



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    TLC reacted to Fixation in Way Of Life - Good Churches Ruined By Bad Associations   
    Good article. I found it very enlightening and helpful. I couldn't help but be reminded of 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

    We must never forget to try all things with Scripture, and if it's found wanting, reject it. Scripture gives us our doctrine. It reprooves us whenever we go astray. It shows us the correct way to approach something, and finally gives us instructions on how to achieve it. Man I love the Bible!
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    TLC got a reaction from heartstrings in Way Of Life - Good Churches Ruined By Bad Associations   
    Though I'm not sure I agree with everything you said, I do agree that the IFB certainly has a serious problem with honouring men ("heroes") and severe loyalty issues. Having just come out of an IFB church with these exact problems, I can see why, and how, cultism happens. I am left to pick up the pieces and feel as though I have been led astray ... what a horrible feeling. I feel such a burden for people who have felt they should follow the "man" over the Lord. Because of my nature , I tend to be quite blunt (not necessarily a good thing), so I ask them, "Did Pastor xxxx die for you?" No. Then "what is that to thee, follow thou me" (John 21:22). When we start lifting these men (so-called "heroes") up, we are actually setting them up for a fall. Jack Schaap being an excellent example. It saddens me greatly. The church that the Lord had originally designed has been falling apart for years and we know that as the Day draws near, it will be the 2-3's that will be left to worship Him as we ought. Sad times. Heartbreaking. And if it breaks my heart, how much more His? Christians, beware ...
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    TLC reacted to John81 in Contemporary Christian Music And Homosexuality   
    If anyone, IFB or otherwise, attempts to add performance or works as a requirement for salvation they are wrong. That's not the approach of the vast majority of IFB churches. Scripture tells us that if we are saved our works, how we live our lives, will show this. Good works follow salvation, they are not a means to salvation nor of keeping ones salvation.

    Scripture tells Christians, "be ye holy, for I am holy", as well as telling us to be perfect as He is perfect. No doubt we can't fully attain to this in this life but that is to be our aim. Following Christ is a very high calling and our pursuing holiness must stem from our heart, not from our own efforts to "keep the rules"; our living by the Word of God must come from a heart living for God which brings about a life lived in accord with God's Word.
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    TLC reacted to heartstrings in Contemporary Christian Music And Homosexuality   
    We all seem to perceive 'worldliness' as "ball games", "fishing and hunting", "vacations", movies, dress, hair, CCM etc. and this is all true but I've often observed a form of worldliness, in churches, which seems to get overlooked and can be very very hurtful .........

    The desire to dominate

    Matthew 20:25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. 26But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; 27And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: 28Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
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    TLC got a reaction from HappyChristian in Way Of Life - Good Churches Ruined By Bad Associations   
    Though I'm not sure I agree with everything you said, I do agree that the IFB certainly has a serious problem with honouring men ("heroes") and severe loyalty issues. Having just come out of an IFB church with these exact problems, I can see why, and how, cultism happens. I am left to pick up the pieces and feel as though I have been led astray ... what a horrible feeling. I feel such a burden for people who have felt they should follow the "man" over the Lord. Because of my nature , I tend to be quite blunt (not necessarily a good thing), so I ask them, "Did Pastor xxxx die for you?" No. Then "what is that to thee, follow thou me" (John 21:22). When we start lifting these men (so-called "heroes") up, we are actually setting them up for a fall. Jack Schaap being an excellent example. It saddens me greatly. The church that the Lord had originally designed has been falling apart for years and we know that as the Day draws near, it will be the 2-3's that will be left to worship Him as we ought. Sad times. Heartbreaking. And if it breaks my heart, how much more His? Christians, beware ...
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    TLC got a reaction from HappyChristian in Prayerful   
    Just a quick update on this old post ... my first post. The Lord has answered this prayer in a most unexpected way! Praising the Lord for His goodness and to you all for your prayers. Thank you. We are now pleased to be a part of a new church plant here in our hometown! Please pray for our efforts ... we can already see the Lord working and are very, very excited!
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    TLC got a reaction from PastorMatt in Prayerful   
    Just a quick update on this old post ... my first post. The Lord has answered this prayer in a most unexpected way! Praising the Lord for His goodness and to you all for your prayers. Thank you. We are now pleased to be a part of a new church plant here in our hometown! Please pray for our efforts ... we can already see the Lord working and are very, very excited!
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    TLC reacted to RSS Robot in Way Of Life - Good Churches Ruined By Bad Associations   
    After studying the emerging church for the past five years, including attending one of the largest emerging church conferences with media credentials, reading several dozen of their books, and interviewing some prominent emerging leaders--and at the same time observing what is happening among fundamental Baptists--last year I issued a warning that most independent Baptist churches will be well down the contemporary/emerging path within a generation. 

    I am more convinced of this with each passing month. 
    “Why Most Independent Baptist Churches Will Be Emerging within 20 Years” is a free eBook available at the Way of Life web site.

    In this book I list the following eight reasons for my prediction:

    The rejecting of warning and reproof in regard to certain heroes
    Unquestioning loyalty to man
    Following the crowd
    Ignorance about important Issues
    Soft separatism
    Lack of serious discipleship
    Carelessness about music
    Quick Prayerism

    More recently I have realized that a church doesn’t have to be guilty of all of these things to be a candidate for becoming emerging. All it has to do is be guilty of two of these: SOFT SEPARATISM, because soft separatism builds bridges to the wrong churches and the wrong preachers that act as conduits for the other areas of compromise to enter the congregation, and the REJECTION OF WARNING AND REPROOF in regard to certain IFB heroes, which makes it impossible to fully and properly educate the church about and separate the church from the compromise that spreading so quickly among IFBaptists. (A pastor that is unwilling to listen to warnings and reproof about certain heroes and unwilling to let his congregation entertain such warnings is guilty of giving unquestioning loyalty to man, so these things are intimately associated.) 




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    TLC got a reaction from John81 in Prayerful   
    Just a quick update on this old post ... my first post. The Lord has answered this prayer in a most unexpected way! Praising the Lord for His goodness and to you all for your prayers. Thank you. We are now pleased to be a part of a new church plant here in our hometown! Please pray for our efforts ... we can already see the Lord working and are very, very excited!
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    TLC reacted to HappyChristian in What Should I Do With Extended Family Birthday's And Holidays Celebrations?   
    One of the things I've learned in life, Blessed, is that we can't change our families. If they are not saved, and/or if they are not seeking to serve Him, advice as to how they should live/train their children is very unwelcome.

    The biggest, best, and most important way to deal with this is to bathe it in prayer. Pray constantly and consistently for some things:
    1. Salvation of unsaved family members
    2. God to work in the lives of saved family members
    3. That God will give you wisdom what to say and when to say it

    And then love them. Oh, I don't mean to ignore their sin. But please realize that they know their sin. And they know you don't approve.

    Loving them means sending birthday cards. I wouldn't get gifts for them, but do send birthday cards. And always, always, sign that you love them. You've presented the truth to them, now just pray that the Holy Spirit will work on them. He will. And by just loving them they will see that you truly do care. It truly is amazing what prayer can do.

    When you are planning to go and visit your parents, send a note to your sister and let her know you'll be in the area. Just let her know that you hope you'll be able to spend a bit of time with her, but you know she's busy so if it doesn't work out you understand.

    I know how hard it is...I've had some of the same problems with some of my family members. But God truly is a God of love. He loves us to Him - and He uses us to love others to Him. Don't partake in their sin, but love them. God will show Himself mighty when you let Him.
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    TLC reacted to heartstrings in The Rock Group U2   
    Music is a powerful thing. It moves mankind like nothing else because God made us that way.. Major chords and scales can make us feel happy while the minor ones can make us feel sad and the right kind of music can set the mood and atmosphere for worship. The Bible says we are to be "speaking to ourselves" in "psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs" and "making melody in our hearts" to the Lord. That's what music is supposed to be for.

    It's nothing I'm proud of, but in my college days I went to a few rock concerts and I would say, from my experience, that a rock concert IS a worship service; but it definitely isn't the Lord Jesus Christ who is being worshipped. God help us.
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    TLC reacted to John81 in Baptism   
    Our pastor was blessed to baptise five born again believers in Christ today. By the grace of God, one was his own grandson!

    Praise God for five souls who were once lost but are now in Christ and followed through with public profession of faith and believers baptism.
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    TLC reacted to irishman in Are We Willing To Pray?   
    Amen! I have had that very thought on my heart. Our Lord can show Himself strong; defeat the false god of the Muslims, and bring America to Him.

    2 Chron. 7:14
    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    It seems as if it is up to us, not the politicians or economy!
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    TLC reacted to Wilchbla in America Is In The Bible   
    To be fair it's not just the Mormons. I've heard Baptists too teach these things. Everyone tries to find something hidden in the bible that nobody else can see so they can stand out. America may be in there but it's really a guessing game at this point. Not until the seals of the Lamb's book are broken will some of these things really become clear.
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    TLC reacted to irishman in Hammond Pastor Dismissed For ‘Improper Relationship With Young Woman’   
    Isn't it ironic though that those who accuse the members of FBC of worshiping Dr. Hyles, when it was the deacons that decided on firing him? Nothing wrong with showing your pastor that you love him, if it is done properly, (which this was not). I just thought it might disprove to some scorners that there is a difference in worshiping and showing appreciation and loyalty. I know that the word "loyalty" is not in the Bible, but faithfulness is, and that may be similar.
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    TLC reacted to JerryNumbers in Hammond Pastor Dismissed For ‘Improper Relationship With Young Woman’   
    The sad thing is this drags the name of Jesus though the mud, it puts a bad name on His churches, & it hinders thousands from attending church & coming to the Savior.
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    TLC reacted to Fixation in Bakery Sees Business Boom After ‘Gay Wedding Cake’ Refusal   
    Praise the LORD that Christians will not back down to social pressure! Keep the faith!
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    TLC reacted to John81 in Bakery Sees Business Boom After ‘Gay Wedding Cake’ Refusal   
    I agree. When I saw this story I thought it important to share something positive. They have a history of standing firm upon their biblical beliefs, even when it seems no one was looking. Now that attention has come to them, both negative and positive, they seem to be humble and remaining true to the Word.

    It was encouraging to read how they have already considered the cost of following Christ and are aware that at some point if the government tries to force them to violate their biblical beliefs they are willing to sacrifice their business by shutting it down for the sake of Christ.

    Praise God! May the Lord bless and keep them!

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