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4 hours ago, SGO said:

They are all gone aside, they are ALL TOGETHER BECOME FILTHY:

there is NONE that doeth good, no NOT ONE.

Psalm 14:3

Who is this NONE?  Is this all lost people?  Is this just the lost of David's day or all the lost of all times?  Who is David talking about?  Do lost people ever do good? 

Was Mother Teresa a saved individual?  I hope she was, but her faith was more in a religion, a work, a man (pope).  She questioned God's existence.  "Mother Teresa was afflicted with feelings of abandonment by God from the very start of her work among the homeless children and dying persons in Calcutta's slums. From all available evidence, this experience persisted until her death five decades later, except for a brief interlude in 1958." (google quote).  If she wasn't saved, was she doing "good"?  I believe even God would look to her work among the homeless children and dying as "good".

3 hours ago, SGO said:

What? One day you decided to call upon the Lord out of the thoughts of your own heart?

 

The heart is deceitful above all things,

and desperately wicked:

who can know it?

Jeremiah 17:9

Is this all hearts or just the unsaved?  

Deut. 30:10  If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

Sounds like a choice.  Is this heart deceitful?  

3 hours ago, SGO said:

I WILLINGLY told Jesus that I needed Him.

However, that was His work to make me willing.

Umm, I don't believe it was His work to "make" you willing.  That would kind of go against free will, wouldn't it?  It would have been Him that pricked your conscience and burdened your heart, but you could have still rejected Him.  

3 hours ago, SGO said:

It's a mystery to me why He chose me.

Perhaps I will be able to glorify Him some how.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

There, mystery solved.  Now go on about your business.  Oh, by the way, you can glorify Him now in how you live your life. 

3 hours ago, SGO said:

No, we are all filthy.

He is the One that lead us to repent.

It is HIS WORK IN US that leads us to repentance.

 

For it is God

which WORKETH IN YOU

both TO WILL

and TO DO

of his good pleasure.

Philippians 2:13

Who is this talking about?  A lost person being "chosen" to be saved and being led to repentance?  Verse 12 sounds like Paul is talking about saved individuals.  If we are saved, yes, we have God Himself dwelling in us.  

Jerry spoke mostly on conscience and what he said is not debatable and, imo, 100% correct and biblical so I will not comment on that since already stated.  The movie Courageous is decent and has a good message.  If you are trying to teach your youth that there are alternatives to worldly entertainment, this movie is a good one.  Better yet, imo, is Flywheel and Facing the Giants, both by the Kendrick brothers.  Better ones would be "Time Changer" and the "Secrets of Jonathan Sperry" but any movie out there most likely will not line up with your beliefs 100% just like every IFB church won't.

Anyway, let's talk "youth group".  Is this time during regular church hours or different times?  If it is during church, I believe you are correct in just wanting to spend time studying God's Word.  If it is different times and this time of meeting is for the youth to get together to fellowship and to study God's Word, I fear you would lose them if you turned "youth group" in to just another church service/Bible study.  Do you ever get together with your church friends?  Is it solely to study God's Word?  Have you ever had a "movie night" for the youth?  Here they can get together to watch a good movie, eat pizza and popcorn, and then afterwards tie the movie in to your biblical beliefs with a brief summation.  Stay clear of mostly negatives that don't line up with your beliefs and drive home the good points with a few Bible verses that back them up.  You can appeal to the flesh a bit without making everything a Bible study because you know we adults do the same thing.  Show the youth alternatives to the world's appeal to the flesh.

Side note...when I was 13 I attended my church's lock-in.  The youth director showed us a movie.  Care to guess???  No, you never will.  Rambo, First Blood.  Yea, it wasn't an IFB church.  It was American Baptist.  

10 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

My wife and I were not able to have children, and I know that come Mother's Day she felt uncomfortable. On Father's Day I felt a bit marginalized. Having suffered several miscarriages and knowing how lack of children would affect the services those days we usually stayed home or met with others who had experienced what we had. We had a Bible study and prayers at these group meetings. 

I feel for you, brother.  I was 24, my wife 22 when we married.  6 months later she was pregnant.  3 months after that she had a miscarriage.  A little less than a year later she was pregnant again.  This one ended in something called a molar pregnancy where the fetus starts growing through the wall of the uterus.  She had to have surgery.  After that, she couldn't get pregnant in what her doctor called "unexplained infertility".  I was tested.  She went through a bunch of tests and procedures but nothing was ever found as to why she couldn't get pregnant.  Mother's day was extremely hard.  We would go to church and the mothers would be honored.  The message would center around being a mother and would unintentionally make it sound like if you weren't a mother you were only half a woman.  Father's day seemed worse because friends and family would acknowledge that I too was effected by the miscarriages, but would quickly shift gears back to my wife because she was the actual vessel that had the miscarriage.  In other words, "suck it up, man...oh your poor wife".  I guess as the father I wasn't allowed to have "feelings" of loss, it was all the woman's sorrow.  We too started skipping the mothers and fathers day ceremonies.  I would honor her with gifts for being a mother of two children in heaven.  Irony??...I have been Baptist my whole life.  We believe life begins at conception but it seems except on mother's and father's day because miscarriages didn't seem to count.

I do have a happy ending, but it took 10 more years and a doctor in Columbus.  

On 8/14/2023 at 6:18 PM, Muckah said:

You guys believe the entire universe was created in 6 literal 24-hour days?  Do you also believe Noah put Dino on the Ark?

I was reading over this thread and came across this older post.  Why is it so hard to believe that God put Dino on the ark?  I think all the drawings of the occurrence is confusing people.  Does God say in His Word that He put full grown animals on the ark?  Why not have them all puppies and kittens and joeys etc.?  If they were adult lions and tigers, did God close their mouths like in the lions den?  If they were little babies and just off the bottle, they would be quite tame.  If all the animals were just off the bottle, they wouldn't eat as much food in 40 days which would make it easier to stock the food pantry.  And baby dinosaurs would not be a problem.   

I've heard issues on what would the meat eaters eat just of the ark?  There wouldn't be animals to hunt.  No, but I bet there were plenty of fish flopping around on dry land after the waters receded.  And probably small puddles that caught some fish that would be fairly easy to catch once all the "flopping" fish were eaten.  And then bigger puddles with fish would slowly dry up and so on and on.  I bet the fish would keep the meat eaters sustained while all the animals were multiplying.  

Or God, in His omnipotence, fed them and just didn't need to record it in His Word because we just need to take Him at His word.  When you worship an omnipotent God who can speak things in to existence, it is not difficult to believe His account of the flood.  

11 hours ago, heartstrings said:

God in His grace, specifically offered life and death, blessing and cursing to the whole group (you, plural). But He then specified that it was up to the individual (thou) to choose.

Like the last two pointed out, interesting and something to think about.  Ok, I thought about it and I must say once again it makes me want to sing "How Great Thou Art."  God in His greatness and bigness, Who can hold the world in His hands has made such a choice personal to me.  A little speck of dust on this big planet is allowed to make a decision of such great proportion.  What is man, that thou art mindful of him?  Yet He is and not willing that ANY should perish.  How humbling a thought that a great God would give little ole me such a wonderful choice!  How can I not but obey?

18 hours ago, heartstrings said:

Tell me please why fallen angels who had rebelled against God, dooming themselves to be a 'devils" or "demons" would take women as a "wives"?

Because they hated humanity so much that they wanted to pervert/corrupt it through their offspring????  Why are they down here being "demons" or "devils"?  Why not go sit on the moon?  Do they have to be here and be confined to the earth?  

On 12/22/2023 at 7:40 PM, BrotherTony said:

Mr. Biden is one warped, twisted, and totally lost individual. I pray for his salvation, but for the end of his administration to come quickly.

Yeah, what a goober!  But on the marijuana issue, I look at the simple facts: grow a plant in your back yard, roll it up and then smoke it = go to jail!  Has the government lost their ever-loving mind??!!  Talk about control issues.  Tobacco is a plant.  It doesn't get you stoned so let's not make that illegal, just tax it to death.  Alcohol gets you drunk (high, buzzed) but that isn't illegal, just taxed.  Where does the government get its standards for making something illegal or not?  Not everybody that gets drunk, drives.  Not everybody that gets stoned drives.  Not all drunks beat their wives and kids.  Does any person stoned on weed want to beat anybody?  Alcohol magnifies your personality, weed mellows more than anything else.  Oh but you say it is a "gateway drug" to the harder stuff.  No more than alcohol is a "gateway" to weed in search of the better buzz.  In fact, check the stats, children that have grown up in a home where at least one parent drank are more likely to try weed than not.  Now that stat is from 11th grade social problems taught by Mr. Jones to me in 1986.  I was puzzled by it at the time, but that is what the book said.  Today it makes more sense to me.  I have personally known more lives ruined by alcohol than weed.  In fact, I know of only one person I can say their life was ruined by weed but only because of the health issues it caused after decades of use.  

I was reared in church, 3 times a week since birth.  I went to a Christian school.  From the time I was 14 to 24, I was in a rebellious stage.  I have been the drunk.  I have been the stoner.  I loved going to rock concerts, bars, biker parties and bonfires.  Anywhere I could go to get drunk or stoned was fine by me.  I stayed away from church.  If I ever find myself in a dark alley, I would rather run into someone stoned on weed than a drunk.  I found out back then that I hated being around drunks.  

Does this mean I want weed legalized? No!  But if a person getting high deserves jail, the drunk deserves it two-fold.  If we are not going to lock up the drunks for getting drunk, we should not be locking up stoners.  If the person on probation has to stay off weed, he should have to stay off alcohol also.  I hate to say it, I agree with Biden on this issue.

And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit.  I believe that verse would also apply to being stoned.

19 hours ago, Napsterdad said:

I'm willing to cede the point,

I guess I should have put a smiley face after saying "Solomon's temple sounds good."  I wasn't wanting to make a point that it should be "Solomon's".  Because we are N.T. I love it being the house of the Lord in the Old Testament and the verses you pointed out about the glory of the LORD filling the temple.  The high priest was the only one allowed into the holy of holies.  So the significance of the temple veil being rent after our Savior's death is just so awesome!  I am a priest now.  I have permission to go to God having Christ as my mediator.  It doesn't get any better than that!  Christ in me, no need for a "holy of holies."  It was the house of the LORD, now I am!  Gives ya goose bumps, doesn't it?

On 11/3/2023 at 6:34 PM, Napsterdad said:

Odd name that; Solomon's Temple. Should it not be God's?

Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

Solomon's temple sounds good.

On 11/3/2023 at 6:34 PM, Napsterdad said:

"What is a modern Baptist Church building supposed to look like?" My answer is 'I don't care. What's going on inside?"

Amen to that!  I never cared too much for big, fancy, expensive church buildings.  The cost of some of these church buildings would feed a small nation.  And to think our Savior "hath not where to lay His head" and He did just fine in getting the message out.

On 10/6/2023 at 3:33 PM, Jerry said:

Before we come to the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation, all of us are workers of iniquity.

Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Hatest is a strong word.  It is a stative verb which usually refers to thoughts or emotions.  It requires an object.  In this verse the object is "workers".  A worker is a person.  This verse is not referring to a future occurrence such as the great white throne judgement.  People are not "workers" at the time of judgement.  Work is done.  This is here on earth and does not mean to love less.  It means hate.  

You stated that all of us are workers of iniquity before salvation.  The Bible makes it clear that God hates workers of iniquity.  So is it safe to draw a parallel between your statement and David's and say "God hates the lost"?  

On 10/6/2023 at 3:33 PM, Jerry said:

Romans 1-3 puts all of mankind in the same boat - there are no people that are better than others, we are all the same, all in need of the Saviour.

Yes, God loves all of mankind, His creation as a group.  "All in need of the Savior", yes.  When we take our first breath, we are in need of the Savior.  But as soon as we put faith in Jesus as our Savior, we are no longer in the same boat as "all of mankind".  Now we are individuals.  God does not look on individuals the same as "all of mankind".  

9 hours ago, Jerry said:

no one on these boards said what you did above. We said God loves the world - lost and saved - but His love for His children far exceeds His love for the lost

"For whom the Lord loveth" this quote does not state for whom the Lord has more love for.  Stating "His love for the lost" is saying He loves the lost individual just not as much as the saved. You backed this statement up with the verse about hating parents and said it was in comparison to the love we have for the Lord.  But the quote "for whom the Lord loveth" is not in comparison.  It is clearly stating there are individuals that God "loveth" and "correcteth".  Is God correcting the saved more so than the lost?  No.  This verse is making a distinction between whom the Lord correcteth and whom the Lord loveth.  Saying His love for His children exceeds His love for the lost would directly contradict the statement "for whom".  "For whom" is a distinction.  It is the object of the verb "loveth".  

. Proverbs 3:12

For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Hebrews 12:6

For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth

Do these verses show a difference?  If God looked at the lost the same as the saved or loved all the same, why would these verses state "for whom".  That states not all.

I have love for the kids down the street inasmuch as I don't want bad to happen to them, but I don't feed, clothe or chasten them like my own kids.  

17 hours ago, MikeWatson1 said:

That God doesn't love as in convert without them being convicted of their need for the Saviour first?

Yes, God has love for all but we have to go through Jesus to get it. 

Romans 8: ³⁹ Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

14 hours ago, Jerry said:

Romans 1-3 puts all of mankind in the same boat - there are no people that are better than others, we are all the same, all in need of the Saviour.

Romans 4: ⁷ Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

⁸ Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

We are not better than anybody else, but the saved are better off.

7 hours ago, MikeWatson1 said:

To give sinners the chance to believe on Him is incredibly deep love.

Exactly.  This is the love that God has for all.  Romans 5:8, God commendeth (established/proved) His love toward us... God showed us His love that He has for us with His son on the cross.  And now we have the chance because of this sacrifice and love.  But Mark writing that Jesus loved this person does not mean that is the message we are to give to lost sinners.  If we say that, then we also should tell them that Jesus said we can buy our way in to heaven by "sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven..." Is that the message we give to lost sinners???  

Ray comfort was correct.  Where is the verse that states the apostles told lost sinners that Jesus loves them?  

Psalm 5:5 clearly states that God hates the workers of iniquity.  Do we understand that a worker is a person?  I looked up this verse in Bible gateway and did a check on all English translations.  95% of the new per-versions actually recognize this worker as a person.  Do we?

Think of it like this.  Not all sinners are necessarily workers of iniquity.  So you have this guy you work with that seems like the most upstanding, moral person-but he is lost.  So you tell him that Jesus loves him.  Meanwhile, in his spare time, he is actually a drug dealing, child-trafficking pimp actively promoting a hedonistic world view in an on-line blog with 1 million followers.  You do not know these facts.  Would you call him a worker of iniquity?  If God considers him one and you tell him that God loves him, you just lied.  

If you tell him that God has so much love for him that His son died so that he could be saved, did you lie to him now?  No.  So what would be the better way to communicate God's love to lost sinners?

1 Samuel 8:11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.

¹⁷ He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.

¹⁸ And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the Lord will not hear you in that day.

¹⁹ Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;

In the OT, God wasn't too pleased that His people wanted a King to judge them.  We might not be His people, but we are His children.  Why would we believe God wants us to be concerned with a ruler (president)? 

2 Timothy 2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

Getting into politics would be the "affairs of this life".  We have been commissioned to spread the gospel, period.  It wouldn't matter if we lived in China, N. Korea or here in this great country.  We are to spread the gospel and leave the rest to God.  If we were good at the commission God gave us, this country wouldn't be in the shape its in.  

Acts 17:6  And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also;

Are we turning the world upside down?  Are we at least turning our communities upside down?  That is what the gospel does; elections do not.  

On 9/30/2023 at 5:25 PM, BrotherTony said:

Isn't it up to each church to decide?

I guess I wasn't signed in when I replied.  Now I will have to remember what I wrote.  Is it up to each church to decide?  I honestly don't know when I ask that.  The Ethiopian Eunuch didn't have much understanding of what he was reading, but Philip baptized him without a 2 month class.  John the Baptist was preaching and baptizing in the same day it seems from reading about him, and yes that was before Jesus' death.  The only exception I believe is found in Acts where some had received the Holy Spirit and hadn't been baptized yet.  Peter quickly fixed that issue.  All other instances seem to be "pretty close to the salvation decision".  They believed and were baptized.  So if we look to the Bible for guidance, is it a church's right/decision to institute a class on a subject when the Bible appears to contradict that church's decision?  It almost seems condescending.  These new believers can read the Bible for themselves and see that they "believed, and were baptized" (Acts 18:8).  Talk about making a person feel stupid.   

I loved the NFL and more so the Steelers.  But in the past decade or two, they have seriously gotten way too political for my liking.  In fact, there are some things I actually hate about the NFL.  Do I hate the teams and the players? No.  There are so many things I hate about Roger Goodell but I don't believe I actually hate him.  Although, after reading some news articles in the past, my dislike for the man was very high.  Would I like to love the NFL again?  Sure.  But they would have to change quite a few things and turn from their evil (political) ways for me to love them again.  I would say, for the ,most part, I am indifferent to them.  A few I strongly dislike.  

"For God so loved the world..."  Past tense.  If we understand some of the Holiness of God, how can we say a Holy God loves this world now?  John 12:31 and Ephesians 2:2 talk of satan being the prince of this world and the air.  Does a Holy God love that?  No.  

I do believe God is sort of "indifferent" to the lost sinner that is going through this life, trying to be good, but doesn't even know God or His Son's name.  Example would be the native Americans.  They believed in a spirit in the sky and tried to take care of their families and the land.  Would they be "workers of iniquity"? I don't believe so.

Gay couple living next door to you, not hating you because they see you going to church.  Just going through this life the best way they think they can.  Keeping to themselves.  Not adopting.  Not going to parades or protests.  Just living life. = lost sinner?

Gay activist trying to push their agenda and get sex ed for kindergartners.  Actively protesting and hating all things to do with religion. = "worker of iniquity"? 

I definitely believe God hates some people on this earth because we are told this in Psalm 5:5.  This is a fact that so many Christians would argue with.  I have experience with this because a deacon got in a shouting match with me during one of my sermons on this and stated that God can't hate because God can't sin and all hate is sin.  Our hate comes from pride, God's does not, but this deacon could not separate the two.

God has love to give all, but we have to go through His son to get it.  Telling a lost person that God hates them would be wrong to do.  Telling them that God has so much love to give us that He gave His only begotten Son to die on a cross so that we might be saved would be a better point to make.

On 8/24/2023 at 11:58 AM, heartstrings said:

by feeding people a steady diet of "God hates you" without showing that He LOVES you and that he demonstrated that love by sending His only begotten son to die for you, you are putting out what you claim is "truth". But "truth" without "spirit"(including the love of God) is not truth at all

I don't believe we should feed them a diet that God hates them.  That probably does not need to come up.  But by feeding them the lie that God actively "loves them", they get confused on how a God that loves them can send them to hell for eternity.  In this case, telling them God loves them would be doing more harm then telling them He doesn't love them. 

The Bible is very clear, "...thou hatest all workers of iniquity." Psalm 5:5  A worker is a person not their actions or "sin".

God HAS love for all lost sinners, but doesn't actively love them.  In order for them to get God's love, they have to go through Jesus.  "...shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Rom 8:39  God has all this love to give, but you have to go through a door to get it.  That door is Jesus.  And anybody can go through that door.  "...not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

There isn't a verse in the Bible that states God loves the lost person, just that He has love for them.  John 3:16, past tense.  

On 7/29/2023 at 9:42 PM, HappyChristian said:

God said it's not wise. That's enough for me to stay completely away.  Foolishness to look for reasons to "be allowed" to imbibe.

God said it is not wise to be deceived by wine or strong drink.  How are we deceived?  By getting drunk and being excessive.  The drunk smokes more cigs than when sober.  The drunk will spend more money at the gambling tables than sober.  That is why a lot of casinos used to offer free drinks.  I already mentioned above he will drive faster.  The list goes on and on.  This is the person deceived by alcohol.  How is he deceived?  He thinks he is having a good time.  Meanwhile, he wakes up hungover and broke.  Yep!  He is deceived.  

I don't think anyone here is looking for reasons to imbibe, at least I hope not.  I just do not want to call something a sin that is not.  My wife grew up in a church that said roller skating was sin because it was "too entertaining".  Playing "old maid" was sin because it involved cards and all cards are sin because it leads to gambling.  My wife telling our children that roller skating is not a sin is not looking for a reason to skate, she is way to clumsy and would hurt herself, but just trying to stay biblical.

5 hours ago, Jerry said:

it says wine in itself is excess.

Um, looking at this passage by diagraming the sentence, drunk is the subject so the "wherein is excess" after the comma would be referring to "drunk" not wine.  This passage is not saying wine in itself is excess, but drunkenness.  And, if you have ever been around drunks, the alcohol magnifies their attitude or personality.  This causes them to be "excessive" in all they do.  The drunk driver will drive in "excess" of the speed limit, whereas the stoned driver tends to drive well below the speed limit.  

17 hours ago, heartstrings said:

that thou mayest look on their nakedness!

Wine or not, Jesus would not have tried to get someone drunk in order to take advantage of them which is what this verse is referring to doing.  

Matthew 3:4b...and his meat was locusts and wild honey.

Matthew 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.

19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

Obviously John ate because we see his meat was honey and locust so we know Jesus is not referring to simply not eating.  John could not have lived more than a few days without at least drinking water.  So Jesus isn't saying in verse 18 that John never drank water.  So what is Jesus referring to when He stated that John didn't eat or drink?  The next verse explains when Jesus stated that He ate and drank.  What was He eating and drinking?  Something the Pharisees were not because they called Him a glutton and winebibber.  If they called Him a winebibber, I believe this would actually be wine.  Jesus Himself stated He came drinking.  Was He ever drunk?  Certainly not!  Drunkenness is a sin and He never sinned.  Understanding the English language and reading in context, Jesus drank wine that would have had alcohol.  No this is not sin.  Being drunk is.

Exodus 19: 9. And the Lord said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the Lord.  10. And the Lord said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,   14. And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.

What clothes did they wash?  Were they their "Sunday best"?  Clothes purchased for the sole purpose of going to church?  No, I believe they were just their everyday clothes.   Where did we get the belief that we have to have "Sunday best" clothes for church?  

I remember watching "The Waltons" in my youth.  On an episode, one of the kids wore their church shoes on a day other than Sunday and got them dirty.  Olivia got her apron all up in a bind over it and was going off.  This series portrayed the Waltons as poor people that could barely afford the bill at Godsey's store but they went out and spent money on shoes to wear one day a week?  How on earth could we come up with "doctrine", to spend money we do not have, on something as frivolous as fashion?  Were they really dressing for God, or just trying to look good so they were not judged by the congregation?  "Putting on airs"

My problem is, and the meme nailed it, is when we have nice clothing that we are willing to wear for worldly occasions but then get the attitude, "the Bible doesn't have a dress code, I can wear what I want!"  And then go to church looking like you are going to a picnic or bar.  What does this say about our heart?  Rebellious?

It might not be rebellion against God.   Maybe just rebellion against a religious practice that was beat into our heads as if it were doctrine. 

Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

God's hate is pure.  Our hate most likely comes from our pride, therefore we would not be better than God by loving our enemies.   God has love for all, but you have to go through Jesus to get it, Rom 8:39.  By loving our enemies, we show His love that He has for them.  If we rather show that God hates workers of iniquity before they hear/see His love, we are definitely not furthering the gospel and are in direct disobedience to His Word. 

Case in point: in another thread someone referred to getting a baseball bat for a pervert.  I don't think she was referring to helping him with his batting average.  Do you want to crack a perv's skull out of love or hate?  Why would we want to do this?  Because we all have our own beliefs on how to treat a child and at what age a person is to be considered an adult.  In this country, most believe it is 18.  God's Word does not state an age.  I believe the Amish look at children as little adults and work them as such where some look at children as fragile china and won't even spank them.   Nevertheless, when someone doesn't act in accordance to our beliefs, we look down on them.  This is pride.  

Disclaimer:  I don't truly believe she would take a ball bat to someone.  This was said out of emotion for the news article so please don't cast stones her way.