Eric Stahl
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50 minutes ago, Jim_Alaska said:
Eric, I understand the movement of the sun. I want to know where in Scripture it says that: the kingdom of antichrist is in darkness in North America
You make it sound like America is the kingdom of the Anti Christ.
Jim get a globe and shine a flashlight on it from a noon position over Jerusalem. All that is in the light is not the kingdom of antichrist. North America is the darkest place.
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16 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:
Eric, just where do we find that "the kingdom of antichrist is in darkness in North America." A Scripture reference for this would be appreciated.
Isaiah Chapter 60
Jim when the sun and moon stay over Israel the other side of the earth will be dark. It starts in the tribulation see Habakkuk 3:11-13.
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1 hour ago, Genevanpreacher said:
I understand the lettering issue. No problem.
As for what you state - I have a problem.
The vial is poured upon the seat of the beast here. Not the rest of the world. Just his kingdoms seat of power.
Yes. When the sun stays above Israel the kingdom of antichrist is in darkness in North America.
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9 hours ago, Genevanpreacher said:
No it won't.
Have you never read -
"That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles;
The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up."
In answer to the prophecy -
Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations.
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.
Thou hast multiplied the nation, and not increased the joy: they joy before thee according to the joy in harvest, and as men rejoice when they divide the spoil.
For thou hast broken the yoke of his burden, and the staff of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor, as in the day of Midian.
For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning andfuel of fire.
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."
The section you refer is not a physical sun and moon 'thing'.
The darkness before Armageddon is real and it will continue thru the kingdom age. Sorry about the big black letters I don't know how to stop them.
Revelation 16:10
“And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,”
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12 hours ago, Genevanpreacher said:
But not long enough to burn anything like you said below -
Hello? How is that a permanent solar eclipse?
The solar eclipse will continue thru the 1000 year kingdom age.
Isaiah Chapter 60
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2 hours ago, Genevanpreacher said:
But the sun and moon didn't stand still long in this chapter (if it is referring to them at all.) for it says they "went" at the "light of thine arrows".
Amos also saw the eclipse form on a clear day when the sun was rising.
Amos 8:9
Isaiah also saw the eclipse over Israel.
Isaiah Chapter 13
6Howl ye; for the day of the LORD [is] at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
7Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
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On 9/2/2016 at 3:16 PM, MountainChristian said:
I have to be off line again for a few days, but I'll be back hopefully next week.
Do you think Jesus was talking about when the beast is ruling from Israeli? And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; Revelation 16:10?
Habakkuk 3:11-13
12Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.
Before Armageddon the sun and moon will stand still over Israel forming a permanent solar eclipse when the sun is scorching men. That is what happens in Revelation 16:10.
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3 hours ago, MountainChristian said:
John 9:4 I must worke the workes of him that sent me, while it is day: the night commeth when no man can worke. 1611 King James Version
John 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. Authorized King James Version
When is the night when no man can work? We know during the last tribulation the 144,000 are working for Jesus, and the 2 witnesses are working for Jesus.
Even when Jesus was dead he was working on saving the old testament saints.
Death is the night when we sleep and can no longer work.
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4 hours ago, MountainChristian said:
Do you agree or disagree Gog is the name of the leader of Magog?
Yes he is.
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The antichrist shall rule in the strongest nation at the end and then he will divide Israel.
He could not divide Israel till it came back together in the future at the time of the end.
Daniel Chapter 11
1 hour ago, Invicta said:Interesting as the US, supposedly the most powerful nation on earth, had a struggle to manage an army of 500,000 for the gulf war. The largest amy, that of Xerxes, 2 to 5,000,000 mostly foot soldiers drank every river dry and some were drank dry by the pack horses.
US could blow Xerxes 5,000,000 men away wit a few small bombs.
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7 hours ago, MountainChristian said:
If I understand it correctly, this is the army in Revelation 9:16. The 200 million man cavalry. 300,000,000 gallons or 1,100,000,000 liters of human blood will fill the valley. 2,460,000,000 gallons or 10,900,000,000 liters of horse blood will fill the valley.
The laws of those modern countries do not allow christian missionaries. So all or almost all of those young men will go to hell. That has hit my heart very hard. I keep thinking of that verse "hell hath enlarged herself".
The 200,000,000 army will fight for control in the east. The kings of the east will not come to Israel till the battle of Armageddon. When they come, they will fight for the antichrist against Jesus and his anointed saints.
Revelation Chapter 16
16And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
All the armies of the world will come and lose their blood.
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1 hour ago, Invicta said:
Eric. Which part of Dan 11 do you think is past and which is future?
Daniel 11:36-45 is the future appointed time.
Daniel Chapter 11
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6 hours ago, MountainChristian said:
Have you men read something that explains why doesn't Egypt and Saudi Arabia do not join the fight against Israel?
After 2000 of reading the Bible why doesn't the Antichrist change his plans? Does the strong delusion come upon him too?
Daniel 11:40-43a explains that Egypt and all Israel's close neighbors will be destroyed before Russia and her allies attack in Daniel 11:43b-45.
Ezekiel 38:13 explains that Sheba and Dedan (people in Arabia) will be allied to Tarshish (Western powers) and their young lions (colonies) which will defend Israel and all the oil in the beginning of the tribulation.
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On 8/17/2016 at 5:37 AM, MountainChristian said:
Eric do you think the map correctly details the locations?
I believe Persia also contained Afghanistan and Pakistan. The tribe of Meshech is in the area of Moscow and The tribe of Tubal is in the area of Tubalisc, the Eastern capital of Russia. I believe the land of Magog contains Rosh, Meshech and tubal.
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3 hours ago, No Nicolaitans said:
Okay, but I still think the verses that you referenced are speaking only of Israel...and that's not taking into account what is written before these verses in Chapter 8...but I'll leave it alone. Thanks Eric.
Amos 9:1-8 and verses 9-10
1 I saw the Lord standing upon the altar: and he said, Smite the lintel of the door, that the posts may shake: and cut them in the head, all of them; and I will slay the last of them with the sword: he that fleeth of them shall not flee away, and he that escapeth of them shall not be delivered.
2 Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:
3 And though they hide themselves in the top of Carmel, I will search and take them out thence; and though they be hid from my sight in the bottom of the sea, thence will I command the serpent, and he shall bite them:
4 And though they go into captivity before their enemies, thence will I command the sword, and it shall slay them: and I will set mine eyes upon them for evil, and not for good.
5 And the Lord GOD of hosts is he that toucheth the land, and it shall melt, and all that dwell therein shall mourn: and it shall rise up wholly like a flood; and shall be drowned, as by the flood of Egypt.
6 It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name.
7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?
8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.
9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
10 All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.
Notice in verse 1 that all of them will be killed.
Amos 14:8 says except that he would not utterly destroy the house of Jacob.
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8 hours ago, No Nicolaitans said:
I believe that Amos 9 is referring to God punishing Israel.
It is about judging the sinners in Israel and all the sinful nations.
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17 hours ago, No Nicolaitans said:
I'm not sure I'm following you. At first, you were using Habakkuk 3:11-13 to show that the armies of the Antichrist will be beheaded. Then you seemed to agree that the "head" is actually indicative of a leader rather than a person's actual head. Have you read the next verse of Habakkuk 3...verse 14? I believe it gives an even clearer meaning as to the word "head" in these verses. They are talking about a leader, not a person's head. It's still common terminology today. Such as, "The best way to stop your enemy is to cut off its head." Which means to stop, capture, imobilize, or kill their leader.
Still, I agree with MountainChristian...Habakkuk was talking about the Babylonians of history...not the Battle of Armageddon nor the likening of the Babylon of Revelation.
Revelation 14:20
It will take the blood of the whole army to fill the valley with blood. The antichrist will not be cut.
Amos 9:1, 8
Cut the sinful kingdom in the head.
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6 hours ago, No Nicolaitans said:
I do believe that "head" (in that verse) is referring to their leader...not the literal head of a body.
The antichrist and the false prophet are cast alive into the lake of fire. It is the head of all the heathen in the battle.
8 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:Yes, you did say that Eric, but you also said, " That is what I said. Jesus will speak and the saints will kill the army of antichrist. "
This verse that you gave says Jesus will do the killing: And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
This verse also says the same thing: And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Not the saints, but, "him that sat upon the horse, "
Pretty plain wording and it does not allow for conjecture.
Jesus uses us as the weapon of destruction as he used Babylon to destroy Judah.
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1 hour ago, Jim_Alaska said:
Yes, you did say that Eric, but you also said, " That is what I said. Jesus will speak and the saints will kill the army of antichrist. "
This verse that you gave says Jesus will do the killing: And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
This verse also says the same thing: And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Not the saints, but, "him that sat upon the horse, "
Pretty plain wording and it does not allow for conjecture.
Habakkuk 3:11-13 Do you think Jesus will say heads of the army of antichrist split open to the base of the neck?
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1 hour ago, Jim_Alaska said:
Wretched,
The point behind my reference was two fold. One showing that we have a calling that is in opposition to killing people for God. It is not a reference to Armageddon.
The second was to point out that vengeance is God's, not ours as Eric said.
Jim I said the honor of executing the judgment will be ours. You are right the vengeance is the Lords.
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3 hours ago, No Nicolaitans said:
That's my belief...church age saints, yet I believe it "could" possibly include the redeemed from the Old Testament too.
I guess I've always viewed it in this light...we will accompany the Lord, and I kind of imagine the Antichrist, False Prophet, and armies of the Antichrist will see the Lord Jesus Christ followed by such a huge army of his own...that it will be quite a shock and an overwhelming experience for them. I also see it as being an honor for us to be on the Lord's side. So, in that aspect, our presence would play a definite part. Now, all of that is just my conjecture. However, just from the wording of scripture, it seems to me that all that will happen is that the Lord will speak...and they'll be destroyed.
Psalm 149:9 It will be the honor of all the saints that have been taken to heaven to execute the judgment.
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The blood will be to the neck of the horses so I believe the swords will cut the heads to the base of the necks of the army of the antichrist as it says in Habakkuk 3:10-13.
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4 hours ago, Invicta said:
No, I think the sword is the word of God.
That is what I said. Jesus will speak and the saints will kill the army of antichrist.
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4 hours ago, MountainChristian said:
"Jesus word will give the command for the saints to kill the army of the antichrist."
"he should smite the nations" or his saints should smite the nations
Psalm 149:4-9 It will be the honour of the saints to execute vengeance on the heathen.
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The sun which is over Israel won't go down neither will the moon withdraw from over Israel and they don't give light. It is describing a permanent solar eclipse over Israel. Jesus will come into the shadow of the moon in the New Jerusalem. The light of Jesus will shine down on Israel through the purest gold which is clear as glass.
See Revelation 21:21