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  1. 3 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Yes I do Eric.

    When the Holy Spirit has brought in the last great truth to be clarified across the Body, (the Eternal Purposes in Christ) then the Body of Christ will have been brought to the unity of the Faith,  (Eph. 4: 13) and will be caught up to meet Christ the head of the Body. The believers will then escort (meaning of meet) the Lord to His own throne where together they will rule and reign with Christ on His throne. (Rev. 3: 21) After Christ`s wonderful crowning amid the glorious heavenly throng, (Rev. 4 & 5) then together we will judge the fallen angels and world system. (1 Cor. 6: 2 & 3)

    Amazingly there will be glorified people in the third heaven. utterly amazing, and only believable because God`s word tells us.

    So then after the tribulation the Lord Himself comes with His angelic army, of which He is the captain of, (seen throughout scripture) and then deals with the world`s armies, and those who didn`t look after His brethren the Jews, in the trib. Finally the Lord reveals Himself to His brethren (Zech. 12) and as the bridegroom he connects again with the `wife` the betrothed, (Hosea 2: 19)and the `marriage` supper, on earth, (Matt. 22: 12) takes place. God (through Christ) is again united with His people.

    Just a quick summary there Eric,

    regards, Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

    I am pre trib too. The marriage feast of the lamb will be in heaven.

    Revelation
    Chapter 19

    1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

    2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

    3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

    4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

    5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

    6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

    7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

    8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

    9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

  2. 5 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    You are quoting from the Old Testament about the Body of Christ, when there was no knowledge or mention of it. God tells us that the Body of Christ was not made known to others previously, but rather to the Apostle Paul.

    `How that by revelation He made known to me the mystery......which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men.....that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ...` (Eph. 3: 3 - 6)

    regards, Marilyn. 

    Marilyn,

    God knows everything. Prophecy about the end of time has church among the saints. You will go to Armageddon too.

     

  3. 6 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Who is the army that comes with Jesus at the end of the tribulation?

    `Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And he who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war.

    His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except himself. He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and his name is called the Word of God.

    And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed on white horses. Now out of his mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it he should strike the nations. And he himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    And he has on his robe and on his thigh a name written - King of Kings and Lord of Lords.` (Rev. 19: 11 - 16)

    Quite an awesome picture of the Lord`s return to earth in power and great glory. With him we see that he has his army with him.

    I would like to open this discussion with the question -

    Who is this army? And what scriptural references do you have to show this?

    Regards, Marilyn.

     

     

    I would like to present who I believe is this army.

     

    `they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds with power and great glory. And he will send his angels...` (Matt. 24: 30 & 31)

    `When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him...` (Matt. 25: 31)

    `the Son of Man comes in His glory, and in the glory of the holy angels.` (Luke 9: 26)

     

    Thus I believe that the army that comes with the Lord Jesus Christ is his angelic army.

     

    regards, Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

    This prophecy of the end of the tribulation after the saints have been raptured and rewarded tells us that a twoedeged sword will be given to the saints to execute the heathen so we will be in the army of God with the angels. But it will be the honor of the saints to do the killing.

    Psalm 149:4-9

    4 For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.

    5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

    6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;

    7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

    8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

    9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

    Habakkuk 3:11-13

    11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.

    12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.

    13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.

  4. 1 hour ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    That is so true and we can leave it to the Lord -

    `Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you.` (Phi. 3: 15)

    As you can see I do love to talk of God`s purposes especially in these end times. So......How about `Who comes with Jesus at the end of the trib.?` Does that interest you?

    You can start it or I will if you like.

    regards Marilyn.

    You can start it. It should be interesting. If you start it more people may join in.

     

  5. On 2/21/2018 at 5:39 PM, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    Glad we can agree there bro. that Jesus is the root.  However as regards Israel being the tree, let`s have a closer look -

    `.....grafted in among them, and with them became partaker of the root and fatness of the Olive tree.` (Rom. 11: 17)

    Clearly we see that the Lord is the root and the Olive tree, for Israel and the Body of Christ receive nourishment from Christ. However it does not say we are in Israel.

    regards, Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

    The Gentiles are the wild olive tree. Israel is the good olive tree.

     

    17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

  6. On 2/19/2018 at 7:07 PM, Eric Stahl said:

    Marilyn,

    When Jesus comes to rescue Israel it will be the saints from heaven with him.

    Zechariah 14:5

    5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah:

    and the LORD my God shall come,                   and all the saints with thee.

     

     

    (Jesus will take the anointed saints with their two-edged swords to Armageddon to cut the heads of antichrists soldiers to the foundation of their necks.)

    Habakkuk 3:11-13

    11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.

    12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.

    13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.

    It is true that the goodness comes from Jesus as the root. However the tree is Israel which has bad branches.when Israel turned from Jesus, Jesus called the church or body of Christ.

  7. 6 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    I`m glad you posted those scriptures bro, for they are the ones that has caused this great error. So let`s have a look at them.

    Zech. 14: 5 `...and the Lord my God shall come and all the `quodos,` ones with thee.`

    The Hebrew word `quodos` means - holy ones and that can be angels or saints. Thus we need more scriptures to verify which.

     

    Habakkuk 3 is referring to the Lord - thine anointed. It is He who will deal with those that come against Jerusalem.

    `Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, and their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.` (Zech. 14: 12)

    Nothing to do with us cutting off people`s heads.

     

    regards, Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

    Zechariah 14:12-13 happens when God causes America and Russia to fight a nuclear war.

    Isaiah 25:4-8

    4 For thou hast been a strength to the poor, a strength to the needy in his distress, a refuge from the storm, a shadow from the heat, when the blast of the terrible ones is as a storm against the wall.

    5 Thou shalt bring down the noise of strangers, as the heat in a dry place; even the heat with the shadow of a cloud: the branch of the terrible ones shall be brought low.       ((((The Bomb))))

    6 And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.

    7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (((The heavens will roll up as a scroll)))

    8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

     

    It happens in Ezekiel 39:6-8

     

    6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

    7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

    8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken.

     

  8. On 2/18/2018 at 4:47 PM, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    Thank you for your reply.

    Galatians (3) - as we both know is presenting the truth that we are not perfected by the works of the law but by faith in Christ, (who fulfilled the law). We are the `children of Abraham,` meaning `of faith` such as he had. It does NOT mean we are now physical Israel.

    `So then they which are OF FAITH are blessed with believing Abraham.` (Gal. 3: 9)

    There is still such a nation as Israel, with people who are physical descendants of Abraham. That is NOT us.

     

     Romans (11) - Who does God say is the Olive tree?

    The root is holy. (v.16)

    The root has fatness. (v. 17)

    The root supports you. (v.18)

     

    No other than the Lord Jesus Christ can fulfill all those requirements.

     

    Only the Lord is Holy.

    Only the Lord can replete (fatness) fill us up.

    Only the Lord supports us.

     

    Thus we are IN CHRIST, NOT in Israel.

     

    Regards, Marilyn.

     

    Marilyn,

    When Jesus comes to rescue Israel it will be the saints from heaven with him.

    Zechariah 14:5

    5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah:

    and the LORD my God shall come,                   and all the saints with thee.

     

     

    (Jesus will take the anointed saints with their two-edged swords to Armageddon to cut the heads of antichrists soldiers to the foundation of their necks.)

    Habakkuk 3:11-13

    11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.

    12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.

    13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.

  9. 4 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    We do get to some interesting points. So you believe we, the Body of Christ are grafted into Israel. Can you please show from scripture how you have come to this view, please?

    regards, Marilyn.

    BTW I do know the scriptures you are referring to but would like to see how you present them.

    Marilyn,

    Galatians 3:6-7

    6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

    7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

     

    (Israel is the olive tree)

    Romans 11:17-20

    17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

    18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

    19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

    20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

    (The Jews that don't accept Jesus are broken off the tree of Israel and those Gentiles that accept Jesus are grafted into Israel the olive tree.)

  10. 1 hour ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    Now it seems to me that those people - `Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.`  are saints, people of Israel, for the Body of Christ was not known or even begun.

    As to the `armies,` well it never says they are the body of Christ. All through God`s word we see that the armies of heaven, are the angelic host.

    regards, Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

    All Christians are grafted into Israel. The saints are in the army.

    Psalm 149:5-9

    5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

    6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;

    7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

    8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

    9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

  11. 16 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    God is talking to an earthly nation there - Israel, whereas the Body of Christ is a spiritual body of people from all over the world. We are told -

    `For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.` (1 Cor. 10: 3 - 6)

    The Body of Christ does NOT war against people, does not use physical force, we are told to pull down arguments, lies, errors, etc NOT people.

    Israel on the other hand was/is an earthly nation with an earthly inheritance and thus they have to go to war.

    BTW The army in Rev. 19 that comes with the Lord is His angelic army, that is holy, (symbolically clothed in fine linen as the angels in Rev. 15: 6 are described also - Holy) The Lord never said we, His Body would come with Him. He always said that the holy angels, the heavenly host, of which He is captain of, would come with Him.

    When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and ALL THE HOLY ANGELS with Him. `(Matt. 25: 31)

    `...the Son of Man....comes in His own glory, and in His Father`s glory and in the glory of the HOLY ANGELS.` (Luke 9: 26)

    regards, Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

    Notice that these saints are in heaven. They have bodies. They will be given twoedged swords to kill the heathen. This happens when Jesus leads us to earth. See Revelation 19:11-19.

     

    Psalm 149:5-9

    5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

    6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;

    7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

    8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

    9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

    Revelation 19:11-19

    11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

    12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

    13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

    14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

    15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

    17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

    18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

    19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse,                  and against his army.

  12. 14 hours ago, Invicta said:

    I thought he would be destroyed by the brightness of Christs coming.

    Revelation 1:16-17

    16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

    17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

     

    (The word of the Lord is the sword of the spirit. He shines as a noon day sun. When Jesus leads us to Armageddon he will command his army of saints to kill the heathen for it is our honor.)

  13. 21 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    Scripture says that  the Lord has trodden the winepress alone, as it is He who alone can judge, however .....God`s word tells us that His angelic army comes with Him to deliver Israel and bring judgment upon the nations.

    `When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and ALL THE HOLY ANGELS with Him. `(Matt. 25: 31)

    `...the Son of Man....comes in His own glory, and in His Father`s glory and in the glory of the HOLY ANGELS.` (Luke 9: 26)

    Marilyn. 

    Marilyn,

    We saints will be the army to kill the army of antichrist.

     

    Psalm 149:5-9

    5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

    6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;

    7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

    8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

    9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

  14. 1 hour ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    I don`t see that in scripture. Maybe time to start another thread on some of these details ay - The Russian War. (Ezekiel) etc

    regards, Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

    When Jesus comes from Bozrah he is judging people and he is alone. The people of Israel are with the survivors of Moab at the River ford on the Arnon river one third of the way south on Jordan's side of the dead Sea.

     

    Isaiah
    Chapter 63

    1 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

    2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?

    3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

    4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

  15. 6 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    From those scriptures we understand that the anti-Christ will go over to the Lord`s glorious mountain - Mount Zion in Jerusalem and tread down the holy city for 42 months. It does not say anything about Armageddon there.

    Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

      The main point is that He (666) will be there to fight for Israel and the oil in the area when the Ezekiel 38:1-12 alliance comes to fight in the first half of the tribulation.

  16. 4 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    I also appreciate to talk to those who study God`s word in depth. Now we are getting to details. You say that about the time of him setting up his A/D then he brings the armies of the world to take Jerusalem. However...it is not until the end of the trib, that that happens. The armies of the world gather in the vast expansive valley at Armageddon, north of Israel. We know they go through the land of Israel killing all Israeli as they go - two thirds of the nation of Israel. (Zech. 13: 8) Then the world`s armies take Jerusalem and finally gather in victory formation surrounding Jerusalem. (Luke 21: 20 & 24)

    We know it will be a pyrrhic victory - costing more to the victor than to the vanquished!

    regards, Marilyn.

     

    Marilyn.

    (The antichrist will set up his base camp at Armageddon before the Russian invasion.)

     

    Daniel 11:43a

    43athe Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

    44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

    45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

     

    Revelation
    Chapter 11

    1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

    2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

  17. 9 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    I posted some details to you bro, and it would be courteous to reply to them -

    `And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem` (Zech. 12: 10 & 11)

    Here we see that the Lord has gone into Jerusalem and shown Himself to the people of Israel. They realise that He is their Messiah and mourn for Him. They mourn IN JERUSALEM. Now that CANNOT happen in the middle of the tribulation because we are told in God`s word that the anti-Christ, (the lawless one) sets up the abomination of desolation in their temple. When Jesus was on earth He even told them that when they see that  - `to flee.` (Matt. 24: 15 - 22) Thus they are not mourning but fleeing in the middle of the trib,  while at the end of the trib, they will mourn when the Lord Jesus Christ comes in power and great glory and reveals Himself to them.

    Big time difference there bro, Marilyn.

     

    regards, Marilyn.

    Hi Marilyn,

     

    In the middle of the tribulation when the antichrist enters the temple the Jews reject him then he brings the armies of the world to take Jerusalem. Israel will see the Lord Jesus come to their rescue. He will split the Mount of Olives so they can escape to the river ford on the Arnon river (Isaiah 16:1-5)

    Zechariah
    Chapter 14

    1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

    2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

    3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

    4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

     

    After the tribulation Israel will again see Jesus coming to be with them as King.

    Isaiah
    Chapter 60

    1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.

    2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

    (verse 3 starts the 1000 year kingdom age.)

    3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

     

    Thank you for making me explain! You have an above average knowledge of prophecy. It is fun talking to you on the other side of the world.

  18. 2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    `And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem` (Zech. 12: 10 & 11)

    Here we see that the Lord has gone into Jerusalem and shown Himself to the people of Israel. They realise that He is their Messiah and mourn for Him. They mourn IN JERUSALEM. Now that CANNOT happen in the middle of the tribulation because we are told in God`s word that the anti-Christ, (the lawless one) sets up the abomination of desolation in their temple. When Jesus was on earth He even told them that when they see that  - `to flee.` (Matt. 24: 15 - 22) Thus they are not mourning but fleeing in the middle of the trib,  while at the end of the trib, they will mourn when the Lord Jesus Christ comes in power and great glory and reveals Himself to them.

    Big time difference there bro, Marilyn.

    Ezekiel 39:6-8

    6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

    7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

    8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken.

    (When the fire falls on Russia and America Israel will know it is the Lord and they will never turn away from God again.)

  19. On 12/6/2017 at 9:59 AM, (Omega) said:
    I am elated that the Lord has given me tasks to aid the homeless and the indigent. At times, I would volunteer at food banks here in Oakland, an example would be the Alameda County Community Food Bank (ACCFB). This mainly consists of packaging food (perishables, can foods, meat, fruits, etc.). I also minister to the homeless because I was once homeless myself for over a course of 10 years, so I can understand their plight and suffering, living on the streets of Oakland and San Francisco. San Francisco is a hot spot for homosexuality, it is almost like a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah, and ministering to them is an arduous task because sometimes preaching to them can lead to aggression and violent reactions; but I don't let that stop me. When I preach the Gospel to the homeless. I have a technique which is quite effective in ministering to the homeless. I would first ask them, "are you homeless?" If their answer is Yes, then I would respond by saying, "You know...I was homeless too for 10 years.", This piques their interest leading them to ask me how I got off the streets. I would then tell them about the awesome love of God and how he took a wretched drunk like me, and transformed me into a servant of the Lord. I would then hold their hands and pray over them if they desire. Works almost 100% of the time. I believe holding a persons hand in prayer is more effective than just prayer alone. There are also soup kitchens that are Christian based that I also volunteer at times. There is City Team Ministries here in Oakland, and a plethora of other Christian organizations that help the homeless that I volunteer at. There is no excuse not to minister to the homeless or those who are in need to be fed not just food, but the Word of God. As it is written: "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matt.4:4) This feeds their souls and incites their curiosity. This also leads to a discussion about the Bible, and we know that "According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:" (2 Pet.1:3).
     
    There is NO excuse not to preach the Gospel to the lost, and that includes anyone who isn't saved; this also includes our family members. Charles Haddon Spurgeon once said, "Have you no wish for others to be saved? Then you're not saved yourself, be sure of that!" For me, family members are the most difficult to bring to Christ. My family consists of 3 brothers, a half sister, and my mother and father. I have ministered to all of them, and I have seen them grow in Christ over the course of several years, and I thank the Lord for that. Only my mother and my 3rd youngest brother are not saved. My brother Andrew has been brainwashed and put through the wringer by his wife. She is anti-Christian. She believes the bible is sexist and absolutely despises the Word of God. But even so, I pray for her salvation because I care. But God has gave me a promise that He will save my entire family when all is said and done. I was encouraged to share this with my IFB brethren and sisters in Christ here on this forum by another forum member. If you do not have a ministry, I encourage to get involved in one, IF you have the time. We each have a Will that God has planned and purposed in our lives, and it is our duty to fulfill it. 
     
    God Bless,
    Daniel

    Great Christian work! I have been looking at the plight of the homeless in Ca. I can't believe Brown wants  more aliens when he can't take care of his own people.

    I have picked up hitch hikers and witnessed to them and often bought them food for 52 years.

  20.  

    Zechariah 12:9-14

    9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

    10 And I will po14ur upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

    11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

    12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;

    13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;

    14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

     

    (I believe when half of the people of Israel go into captivity that the women and children will be taken to the land of the eagle) and the men will stay to fight at the time of war of Ezekiel 38.

    Revelation 12:13-14

    13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

    14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

  21. On 2/6/2018 at 5:49 PM, Marilyn C said:

    Bro Eric,

    Ps. 83 was the 6 day war & has already happened. Could be a good topic for another thread. Ezekiel`s war is just on the horizon, and another good topic to explore. Now as per Zech. 12 we can see from the context that the Lord is referring to `that day, ` the specific day of the Lord when He comes to the Mount of Olives at the end of the trib. 

    regards, Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

    V 12 At the time of the 6 day war the Arabs had the temple.

    V13-15 This will be the effects of a nuclear bomb when Israel burns its neighbors.

    V 18 Will happen after the tribulation.

    The great tribulation will start in the middle of the 7 years of Jacob's trouble. Daniel 12:1-3, Revelation 12:7-17, Zechariah 14:1-5

    Psalm 83:12-18

    12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.

    13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.

    14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;

    15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.

    16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD.

    17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:

    18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

  22. 56 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    Isaiah 16 concerns a different time in Israel`s history when Moab was being judged. God then goes to the final time when His throne would be established. There is quite a space between those events as the first part has happened and the second is yet to come. Just as in Isaiah 61: 2, there is a gap between the `acceptable year of the Lord and the day of vengeance.`

    So when the Lord comes to the Mount of Olives we read that He goes FIRST to the house of Judah, and then to the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. It is then that the Holy Spirit opens their eyes and they realise who the Lord is.

    `The Lord will save the tents of Judah, FIRST, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah.........and I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on me whom they have pierced; they will mourn for him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for him as one grieves for a first-born.`

    In that day there shall be a great mourning in JERUSALEM.` (Zech. 12: 7, 10 & 11)

     

    regards, Marilyn.

    Marilyn,

    Zechariah 12 is the time of the Psalm 83 war that will happen before the Ezekiel 38 war.

    Yes the Lamb comes to Israel first at the middle of the tribulation Isaiah16:1-4 and to the temple at the end of the tribulation Isaiah16:5.

  23. 15 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Eric,

    God`s word tells us that the dragon is Satan and he would try to get rid of the people of Israel. Then we know that there is placed (midway thr` trib) in the Jewish temple an abomination. Jesus, Himself tells the people of Israel to flee at that time to the mountains. That is where they go to Bozrah in Edom, (Isa. 63: 1 & 2) The armies of the A/C do try and follow but obviously the people of Israel are hidden in the mountains.

    Then at the end of the trib, when the Lord`s feet touches the Mount of Olives and it splits in two then as we know there is a great valley created. At that time the world`s armies had been killing and looting in the city of Jerusalem, so some of the people of Israel that were still in the city will be able to escape through the valley the Lord created. They do not know at that time that it is the Lord, for they are being hunted down.

    `Half the city will go into captivity, but the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.....the mount of Olives shall be split in two.....you shall flee through my mountain valley,.....` (Zech. 14: 2, 4 & 5)

    regards, Marilyn. 

    Marilyn,

    Jesus the Lamb will come to the Mount of Olives and tell the survivors of Moab to let the fleeing Jews stay with them at the river ford on the Arnon River. Jesus will sit on the throne of David.

    Isaiah 16:1-5

    1Send ye the lamb to the ruler of the land from Sela to the wilderness, unto the mount of the daughter of Zion.

    2 For it shall be, that, as a wandering bird cast out of the nest, so the daughters of Moab shall be at the fords of Arnon.

    3 Take counsel, execute judgment; make thy shadow as the night in the midst of the noonday; hide the outcasts; bewray not him that wandereth.

    4 Let mine outcasts dwell with thee, Moab; be thou a covert to them from the face of the spoiler: for the extortioner is at an end, the spoiler ceaseth, the oppressors are consumed out of the land.

    5 And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.

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