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2Tim215

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    2Tim215 got a reaction from prophet1 in No Preacher Needed?   
    Rom_10:14  How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
     
    Should answer the original question.
     
    The 12 apostles were annonted by the Holy Spirit to teach, preach and spread the Word. During this period many besides the 12 were also annointed to do so and led by the Spirit. We have the Word. It is complete and we are each individually commanded to study the Word to show ourselves approved.
     
    2Ti 2:15  Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
     
    But we are not to forsake the "assembling of ourselves together"
     
    Heb 10:25  Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
    The churches today have become a political parties bonded to a fixed building and enslaved by men who have no idea where to find 1Tim 3:2 and Tit 1:7 and we have allowed it by allowing the traditions of men and not God's Word to lead us. We are each and every one accountable for our own understanding of God's Word and our own lives and the way we live them and are not going to be able to blame the "preacher" and his teachings when we one day stand at the judgment seat of Christ to recieve or rewards or lack thereof.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from prophet1 in Under The Skin   
    Pro_29:11  A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Contradicton?   
    In other words nothing extra than what you are allready wearing? Makes sense. Didn't think of it that way. Thanks all.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from heartstrings in "alpha Male"   
    AMEN!!!!!!!!
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from Fixation in Why Did God Say To Kill Little Babies And How Do You Justify It?   
    What you all seem to have NOT noticed is that in the OT God dealt with mankind as individual nations (or family) groups - the sins of the father (patriach/leader/king) passed onto the children and so forth down the line - i don't have time here to quote scriptures here but if you look them up under this understanding of how God dealt with those under the LAW in the OT you will see that when ever a nation was living in sin the entire nation was dealt with, regardless of the innocent living amongst them - possibly guilty through association maybe. An example was the exodus of the Jews, the children and God's chosen leaders had to suffer along with the parents untill every one who had doubted Gods promise to the nation had died - 40 yrs of wandering the desert.
     
    We now live under grace and are judged as individuals not for the sins of our fathers or leaders, but rather for our own sins.
     
    What God did with the many "innocents" that were destroyed along with the guilty is a question we will never know untill we see him and I am of the personal belief that God dealt fairly with those under the age or mentally unable to make a rational decision based upon a clear understanding of who He is to follow Him.
     
    Adam and Eve made a choice to disobey God with CLEAR understanding of what the consequences would be and we are now born in sin because of that action - is this fair or even righteous? That we can be held responsible for the sin of God's "perfect" creation? Does this reflect the nature of God as reveald throughout His Word?  I don't think so.
     
    I think that although the infants/children were killed alongside there parents it was an act of righteous judgment on the adults but an act of mercy for the infants.
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    2Tim215 reacted to DaveW in Church Discipline   
    The only thing I would add is that the.purpose of church discipline is restoration.
    "restore such an one in the.spirit of meekness".

    All too often I have seen it used as a weapon.

    The.prime purpose is to bring the person back into fellowship with Christ.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from trailofblood in Catholic Persecution of Christians   
    the trail of blood by James milton Carrol
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from irishman in Kj Bible College   
    I studied for a while through TBDI (http://www.tbdi.org/)and I know they are a KJB only college yet I can't remember ever been told catergoriaclly not to. I personnally will not use a dictionary or lexicon to get the meaning of a paasage or behind a word as I beleieve the context of the passage will always supply the required meaning - this is plain understanding of english - if the meaning is not immediatly obvious a little digging in the chapter will reveal it every time. I will however use them to get a little historical background to the author or setting for some deeper understanding if required.

    I personally believe the KJB is plain enough without creating confusion from the opinions of others.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from Wilchbla in Kj Bible College   
    In the end it's faith. Do you trust that God preserved His Word? We can never know the original meaning nor why the translators chose that particular meaning - but we do know God promised to preserve His Word and even though He did do just that we still read it wrong sometimes and come up with our own translation to suit our own ends from His preserved Word. Must take dogs and wife to beach - will continue later.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from Wilchbla in Kj Bible College   
    Every Saturday - oh how my flesh cringed - led more to the Lord in that short period than in my whole life. Had the pleasure of meeting Dr Peacock when he visited South Africa and hearing him preach in the flesh was a blessing - very unnassuming and humble man.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from Wilchbla in Kj Bible College   
    Wilchbla - agreed, excelent school but far more focused on teaching how to preach and rightly divide the Word than on "theology". More a focus on hands on than head knowledge. And though I have no problem using Hebrew and Greek and the studies of other great men - I will never take my doctrine or understanding of God's Word from them - this comes from His preserved Word - the KJB. I know the Baptist college here in SA no longer teaches that we are to be taken up and some of the other founding doctrines. But then a lot of the baptists lost the plot years ago.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from HappyChristian in Kj Bible College   
    Wilchbla - agreed, excelent school but far more focused on teaching how to preach and rightly divide the Word than on "theology". More a focus on hands on than head knowledge. And though I have no problem using Hebrew and Greek and the studies of other great men - I will never take my doctrine or understanding of God's Word from them - this comes from His preserved Word - the KJB. I know the Baptist college here in SA no longer teaches that we are to be taken up and some of the other founding doctrines. But then a lot of the baptists lost the plot years ago.
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    2Tim215 reacted to HappyChristian in Kj Bible College   
    Yep, some of the KJB colleges do teach Greek - and even Hebrew! The one my hubby attended does teach Greek. And, in fact, the dean of that college has his master's in ancient languages (concentrating on Greek and Hebrew). And he's never attempted to "correct" the KJB, and he is strongly KJB.

    If the purpose of learning Greek or Hebrew were to correct the KJB, that would be error. But there is no sin in learning those languages. I know when I took Greek in college it was simply because I wanted to learn the language - not to correct anything. The Greek my hubby had wasn't for correcting, either.

    I think we have to be careful of a reverse type of snobbery...again, learning those languages is not a sin. Nor is it a sin to desire to look up the meaning of a word. Ba-ruther!
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    2Tim215 reacted to Wilchbla in Kj Bible College   
    OK, I've never been to a college but I have owned tape recordings of classes taking place in a bible institute (KJV Only). The teacher said they taught Hebrew and Greek for a couple reasons:

    1) Like I mentioned before in another post, because most Christians won't give you the time of day if you don't know these things. If you don't sound educated or know the "original languages" they won't listen to you.

    2) So you can debate the bible scholars on their own level.

    3) To prove that at the end of the day that the bible correctors really don't care what the original languages say or what the manuscript evidence reveals.

    4) To strengthen the believers faith in the preservation of the word of God.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from Wilchbla in Kj Bible College   
    I studied for a while through TBDI (http://www.tbdi.org/)and I know they are a KJB only college yet I can't remember ever been told catergoriaclly not to. I personnally will not use a dictionary or lexicon to get the meaning of a paasage or behind a word as I beleieve the context of the passage will always supply the required meaning - this is plain understanding of english - if the meaning is not immediatly obvious a little digging in the chapter will reveal it every time. I will however use them to get a little historical background to the author or setting for some deeper understanding if required.

    I personally believe the KJB is plain enough without creating confusion from the opinions of others.
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    2Tim215 reacted to Jerry in David Cloud Sword Of The Lord Article   
    David Cloud is solid, and has many very excellent study materials. Don't throw out a solid ministry just because you differ with where he draws a particular line. If it wasn't for solid Bible teachers like Cloud, many more IFB individuals and churches would be by the wayside as well. His is a discernment ministry and it has its place for sure, regardless of whether someone might cross all their t's the same or not. Take what he presents, check it out with the Bible, and if it lines up, then hold to it - as you should do with any other sound Bible teacher or preacher. If something doesn't line up, then throw that part out - if a lot doesn't line up, then disregard that ministry. But if a lot of it lines up, then pray for discernment and wisdom** for what to do with what you think is not correct. If it is his personal opinion or conviction, but not a clear Bible principle, then take it as such - but if it is a clear Bible principle, then we need to heed it - regardless of our personal feelings about the source (providing the source is generally reliable - I am certainly not advocating dipping into the wells of infidelity or some wishy washy teacher to glean something to take with us. As they say: Eat the meat and spit out the bones - but if the meat is tainted, throw it out!).

    **We should be praying for wisdom and discernment when studying the Bible and reading material by others anyway.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from HappyChristian in Good News Boys And Girls!   
    Excellent link Jerry!!! My pastor once preached on this topic and I could say it was almost identical to the linked topic. This is what rightly dividing the Word is all about!!

    I quote his one statement and leave it at that. "PREDESTINATION HAS TO DO WITH THE ETERNAL SECURITY OF THE BELIEVER, NOT THE SALVATION OF THE UNBELIEVING SINNER."

    God's Eternal Purpose by Norman H. Wells
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    2Tim215 reacted to Jerry in Good News Boys And Girls!   
    Here is an excellent article that answers some questions on this subject, and refutes the false answers Calvinism gives:

    What Is Biblical Predestination?
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from 1Timothy115 in Good News Boys And Girls!   
    I know that was your point John, but there's a little ambiguity concerning whether He knew you before you were born or did He SAVE you before you were born? I believe that God knew us before we were born and PROVIDED a way for salvation for all mankind through Jesus before the foundation of the world. But some sadly believe that this provision was only for a few elect and they were SAVED before they were even born, that this "knew" and "saved" are the same thing.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from 1Timothy115 in Good News Boys And Girls!   
    God's saving us from before the foundation of the world has nothing to do with election, foreknowledge, etc - it's because the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. God's plan to send Jesus was always in effect, before He even created Adam and the world. God is outside of time, you could say He is time, so He moves independently of the time that controls our lives. Jesus was crucified for ALL who will BELIEVE before man was even created.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from Calvary in Zombies And Aliens   
    Two schools of thought on that one. Both use scripture "rightly divided" to base their views on. Spose we will only know when we get to see our Maker.
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    2Tim215 reacted to HappyChristian in Pants   
    I think this has gone on long enough.

    :threadlockedbc5:
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from HappyChristian in Turning From 8 Years Of Special Feelings   
    I was engaged to what I thought was the one for me and found out she was living with someone I knew when I was not around - hurt worse than anything but I learned through this that most of the hurt was also hurt pride. Wasn't three months later that I met my wife of 15 yrs now - we were married 2 months after meeting each other.Sometimes bad things happen to good people so that better things can come around.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from Baptist Girl in Turning From 8 Years Of Special Feelings   
    I was engaged to what I thought was the one for me and found out she was living with someone I knew when I was not around - hurt worse than anything but I learned through this that most of the hurt was also hurt pride. Wasn't three months later that I met my wife of 15 yrs now - we were married 2 months after meeting each other.Sometimes bad things happen to good people so that better things can come around.
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    2Tim215 got a reaction from Kitagrl in Turning From 8 Years Of Special Feelings   
    I was engaged to what I thought was the one for me and found out she was living with someone I knew when I was not around - hurt worse than anything but I learned through this that most of the hurt was also hurt pride. Wasn't three months later that I met my wife of 15 yrs now - we were married 2 months after meeting each other.Sometimes bad things happen to good people so that better things can come around.
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