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  1. Though I have many of David Clouds sermons I have never listened to one nor read anything of his or read much about him. So my coming statement is not directed to him. But I have found through personal experience that those that demand separatism are usually the least separated, especially when they make a point of exposing those that "disagree" or share a slightly differing view point. When someone is on a band wagon it's usually best to get off and ride your own horse.
  2. Excellent link Jerry!!! My pastor once preached on this topic and I could say it was almost identical to the linked topic. This is what rightly dividing the Word is all about!! I quote his one statement and leave it at that. "PREDESTINATION HAS TO DO WITH THE ETERNAL SECURITY OF THE BELIEVER, NOT THE SALVATION OF THE UNBELIEVING SINNER." God's Eternal Purpose by Norman H. Wells
  3. Two schools of thought on that one. Both use scripture "rightly divided" to base their views on. Spose we will only know when we get to see our Maker.
  4. Not just aliens and zombies, but the fascination with nephilim has also increased. Some Christians believe they are already walking amongst us.
  5. Guess what? I wear SHORTS to church!! Burn me at the stake. Come on Jerry, prove to me if you can where pants is "not to wear that which pertaineth to a man" Men wore robes when that statement was made.
  6. It's really sad that such an issue can arise in THE CHURCH or any single church concerning something as paltry as a woman wearing pants. I would think we have far more important things to do and worry about. My wife is a nurse and wears pants. Pants made for woman. If I wore these pants I would be laughed at. The issue is not pants and should never have been pants. The actual issue here is authority and modesty. Authority that was and still is abused by "believing" men in ignorance and pride that make an issue out of pants and other silly "doctrinal" points of view without actually seeing the
  7. Someone please give me a verse where the bible, Paul, Jesus or even God says that "PANTS" are forbidden to woman. I am looking for the word "pants" here. And if we go on the fact that it actually means that they must not dress as men, then forbid them T-shirts, socks, boots, sandles, sneakers, button up shirts and anything else that is similar to what we wear! Just another case of making mountains out of dung heaps!
  8. I was engaged to what I thought was the one for me and found out she was living with someone I knew when I was not around - hurt worse than anything but I learned through this that most of the hurt was also hurt pride. Wasn't three months later that I met my wife of 15 yrs now - we were married 2 months after meeting each other.Sometimes bad things happen to good people so that better things can come around.
  9. My question John, is where in the Word does it state that you were saved before the foundation of the world? Not fighting, just asking.
  10. And that is? Why don't you share it with the rest of us?
  11. Thers There is not a pastor in this world who has not lied, sinned nor will there ever be. Thank God for His grace that supersedes that of disgruntled church members as I am sure if stoning were still allowed there would lie a dead and stoned Pastor in many a church!!
  12. I know that was your point John, but there's a little ambiguity concerning whether He knew you before you were born or did He SAVE you before you were born? I believe that God knew us before we were born and PROVIDED a way for salvation for all mankind through Jesus before the foundation of the world. But some sadly believe that this provision was only for a few elect and they were SAVED before they were even born, that this "knew" and "saved" are the same thing.
  13. In context - spoken to Jeremiah only - HE - JEREMIAH - was sanctified and ordained a prophet before birth. He, God, may have known me before birth but He never SANCTIFIED nor ORDAINED me a prophet, a believer or saved before birth.
  14. God's saving us from before the foundation of the world has nothing to do with election, foreknowledge, etc - it's because the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. God's plan to send Jesus was always in effect, before He even created Adam and the world. God is outside of time, you could say He is time, so He moves independently of the time that controls our lives. Jesus was crucified for ALL who will BELIEVE before man was even created.
  15. Agreed, then why do some act as if they do and judge, condemn and criticize those that aren't as "Christlike" as they are?
  16. Are you both "pearlites" living in sinless perfection?
  17. Exactly what I have been saying and to John, no it's not a false teaching - it's not a teaching at all, just something I choose to believe. Whether they are saved or protected or not accountable until a certain age I really do not know but I just choose to believe in His Mercy that has been evident throughout the Word and not only on the occasional example of his just and righteous wrath.
  18. Agreed John, but please point out where I said saved. I do not believe that babies nor children up to a certain age are saved by other means and no where did I say that. I am also not taking a single verse out of context and "creating" a doctrine. The whole passage speaks of unequaly yoked and equaly yoked marriages in the context of salvation so where does legitimacy come in? Paul speaks of having received a letter asking questions - we do not have that letter and he does not specify the questions so I must take the scripture at face value and not read anything into it - so "sanctified" and "
  19. Once again you put words in my mouth so I will let you read it again - this time read slowly and pay attention - I will even highlight for you: Do you by chance see the word "saved"; "believer" or any such thing in that statement? By this I mean "kept safe" though this does fly in the face of many a believers child having died too young to make a conscious decision. Like I said - it's a difficult one that no one really knows the answer to and if there is one we don't always like it. So I will stick to this one even if it sounds foolish, just as you stick to your "Repent" in order to be sa
  20. Not a theory - 1 Cor 7:14 says the children of a saved parent are holy. I suppose this covers the "age of accountability" doctrine. As a young child the gospel was explained to me and I made a choice to accept Jesus as my savior, recommitted my life in my teens and was baptized, so no I do not base my salvation on that and I never stated that I did. I do however believe that the child of a believer is protected (covered by the faith of the parent if you will) until the time they can make there own decision. And just as God sees us through the blood of Christ and His faith, He sees our children
  21. All right. So we have two camps here. One that says God has made a condition for salvation and that condition is to believe and that this "choice" is available to all mankind. The other says God stops at some and passes on by others using comments like "irresistible grace"; "predestined"; "foreknew" and others to justify this doctrine. One says free will One says "God's will" Now if it's free will, then how do babies make a choice? Does God come speak baby gobbly gook that they understand and they make some baby gobbly gook decision to follow Christ? Or does God "foreknow" the baby's d
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