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Malachi is great. The pilgrim character of the faithful remnant, and so forth.

23 hours ago, HappyChristian said:

Both my husband and I have a good dose of Irish. My husband is actually descended from High King O'Neill. One of my lines of Irish ancestry is the Devlins (my great-grandfather Devlin came to America as a young boy during the potato famine).

There is a mishmash of other lineage - Scottish, English, Welsh, German, American Indian 

My hubs got the anglo Irish look - blonde and blue eyes, while I have the black Irish look  - dark hair and green eyes. Our son got the red hair and blue eyes that is so Celtic (of course, the fact that I prayed for a red-haired, blue-eyed boy had nothing to do with it, right? heehee).

A fun note is that Scottish heritage is actually Irish...the word Scotus, which is from which Scots came, literally means Irish. So by saying a person has Scotch-Irish lineage (which I do - MacPheters) one is literally saying they have Irish-Irish lineage. =D That is the reason that the Scotch language is just called Gaelic, while the Irish language is Irish Gaelic. A fascinating read is How the Irish Saved Civilization. There is some language in it that is not good, but that, sadly, is the Irish way.

Once upon a time we had thought God was calling us to Ireland as missionaries. I began studying the Irish language, as languages have always fascinated me, and the history. I did learn some things about how to pronounce words, but not necessarily their meanings. My favorite is Dia Dhuit: pronounced Jee-uh Gwitch. That means good day. Add "er mawjin" (spelled phonetically) and it means good morning. 

As to the words you posted, @BrotherTony, I did not know what they were so had to look them up (even though I've heard the song...). I did know that Chriost was Christ, and that Thiarna had something to do with the Godhead.

 

@HappyChristianDid you ever get to visit/travel a bit in Ireland? fascinating country....

And Northern Ireland....well, in some ways Northern Ireland is as different from the Republic as Texas is from Alaska...

Just now, HappyChristian said:

I never said otherwise. But it is a truth that hungry people don't learn as well, so there's that, too.

I also find that if I've eaten too much during the intermission, during the next sermon I might start to feel.....a bit....zzzzzz.......:)

2 minutes ago, HappyChristian said:

We attended a church for a time that had lunch potluck each Sunday. But they did this because they were without a pastor, so their guest preacher would teach/preach Sunday School and the morning service, we'd eat lunch, and then have the afternoon service. That way the visiting preacher could get home in a timely manner (one of them came from several hours away, the others 1-2 hours). We liked it because we traveled almost 40 minutes one way, and had to cross the Hood Canal Bridge both times...the bridge opens at times which can cause a very long waiting time. One Sunday morning, we were unable to get to church because the bridge shut down and didn't reopen. 

Our current church was in the same circumstance when we began attending. No pastor, and a rotation of three different men preaching for the morning service. The members of the church had decided at the beginning of the circuit to bring lunch so that the speakers and their families could eat. There was no afternoon service; evening service was just the members. It was nice for a while, but then when my hubs became pastor, there were issues that arose...so he did away with the meal and went to just snacks. That had its own issues, and was done away with when Covid hit. He did institute our first Sunday potluck, which we still do. We have an afternoon service (at which my son teaches) and no evening service. It makes for a bit of different and we all enjoy it. 

I think if a church wants to have a meal together every week, that's their choice. I do know of a few churches that have a meal each Sunday. IMO, it's no biggie - in fact, meal time is a very good time to fellowship together. Something we all need.

@HappyChristianGoodies to eat are nice; but it's the Biblical, spiritual food that really counts for lasting nourishment!

On 8/17/2021 at 2:50 PM, Jim_Alaska said:

I don't know where or how folks come up with this kind of thing. Then the next thing they say about whatever it is, is that "MOST" churches are doing whatever it is. This has not been my experience and to me speaks more to the need for sincere, grounded Christians to be in and loyal to, their own churches.

As I have said so many times before, there is no need for church members to be getting their spiritual food in any other place than your own church. If you do not agree or are not getting fed in your local church, you need to be somewhere else. Church hopping is only asking for trouble.

@Jim_AlaskaCertainly feeding the flock is an injunction in Acts 20 which applies particularly to local elders and teachers.

PS: @HappyChristianAs I believe Kitagrl said quite a while ago, double pierced ears are so widespread and imho if some Christian women think similarly of them as did Kitagrl, then if there is no big deal in their minds, there need be no big deal in anyone else's, either.

(Or else conservative, Biblical churches can quickly start resembling controlling cults...)

2c...

12 minutes ago, HappyChristian said:

We need a piano player...come on down! =D

@HappyChristianI can hear the plonky-tonk already...

On 8/17/2021 at 1:39 PM, Salyan said:

Well, that meme picture has about a million variations... 

I looked it up to try to answer Pr Scott's question above. I can't find that exact meme, but in similar ones, the person at the top is portrayed as just watching while the people below open the gates. 

@Salyan Seems like cartoons can sometimes convey a serious point in a cheerful way...:

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40 minutes ago, Jerry said:

Refuge In The Storms Of Life

 

This poetry book contains 37 poems about going through trials,
and the refuge found in the Lord Jesus Christ.
There are five sections and a Bible study called:
Leaning On The Lord

 

The sections (and the poems contained in each) are as follows:
(You can click on any link to view that page on my poetry website https://realmccoy.earnestlycontending.com.)

Weathering The Storms
Poems on Going Through Trials

For A Season
His Voice Cries Out
Handle With Prayer
It’s Only After – by Jerry Bouey & Angela Trenholm
Our Little One – by Angela Trenholm
Still
Take A Second Look At Calvary
The Tempest Of The Lord
Under Construction

Calm Seas
Poems On Prayer and Dependence Upon The Lord

A Silent Prayer
Day By Day
Dream Or Reality?
Prayer For Faith – A Cancer Victim
Esther’s Prayer
Prayer For Perfect Peace
Wings

An Anchor For The Soul
Poems On Friendships and Close Fellowship With The Lord

Friends Forever
True Christian Friends
The Valley Of Faith
True Love
When I’m Lonely
Will You Be A Jonathan?

Peaceful Skies Ahead
Poems on New Beginnings

A Brand New Start
Be Thou Clean
Called
First Steps
Following
Forgiveness
I’ve Gone Home
God Is So Good
Why Wait Until Tomorrow?

The Master Of The Wind
Poems on The Preeminence Of Christ

In The Presence Of The Lord
Meaningless?
My Faltering Heart
Which Is Better?
Northern Lights
On My Knees

 

Foreward

The eternal God is thy refuge,
and underneath are the everlasting arms…
Deuteronomy 33:27

Webster’s 1828 Dictionary defines Refuge as: Shelter or protection from danger or distress. That which shelters or protects from danger, distress or calamity; a strong hold which protects by its strength, or a sanctuary which secures by its sacredness; any place inaccessible to an enemy.

I want this book to be a comfort to all who read its contents; a source of refuge to those going through the storms of life. As my Pastor always says, “You are either going through trials, coming out of them, or preparing to go into them.”

The Scriptures and poems herein have one goal, to point to:
The Lord Jesus Christ.

The refuge He provides is found in the perfect salvation He offers by His death, burial and resurrection; complete pardon from sin and an eternal home in Heaven with our Lord.

Another definition Webster’s gives for Refuge is to flee.

Jesus is our refuge to flee to in seasons of dangers, distress, and calamity in our lives. He is our stronghold, our sanctuary, and our strong tower to flee to from our enemies.

May all who read this book be encouraged to flee to Jesus Christ, first for salvation, and then for refuge in the storms of life.

Jerry (Gerald) Bouey

Be encouraged in your Scriptural, prayerful exercise...

42 minutes ago, Musician4God1611 said:

It is an amazing book. He does a great job showing what is necessary for a Christian to take prayer seriously.

Exhortations to prayer (and indeed to searching the Scriptures) are commendable...

8 hours ago, Invicta said:

Not been feeling to God today so didn't do much. I did not and sour soup with home made whole wheat bread 

@InvictaTrusting you will be strengthened in the Lord's goodness.

7 minutes ago, Invicta said:

The are also mention  I believe, in slavery or bondage.

There is also the bondservant analogy, which is inherent in Psalm 40, Messianically: 'Mine ears hast Thou opened', where the Hebrew has 'digged', i.e., pierced.

1 hour ago, BrotherTony said:

The Chrisitan in Complete Armour (Volumes 1-3) William Gurnall  Promoted by Allistair Begg

This book is based on Ephesians 6, I think...

In the end, it's the regular habit of prayer and the Scriptures, I think....

2 minutes ago, Invicta said:

Pods was obviously a typo, probably due to  auto correct on my tablet. Should probably have been pigs liver. I did an online grocery shop today and searched for liver. The had lambs and pigs liver.

My son in law fitted the device today. 

Hi @InvictaGreat you had the device fitted; sounds like you need it.

God bless your family.

17 hours ago, Invicta said:

I like it. We used to also get calves liver and pods liver in the stores. Recently  I have only seen lambs liver, it is very cheap. I got some chicken liver a few weeks ago and it was in the "Reduced for quick sale" section.

I have not been eating too well recently.   

The Friday before last friends picked us up and took us to the coffee morning at our church, after that we went to lunch in the restaurant in one of our local garden centres. Halfway through our meal I suddenly felt unwell and collapsed on the table. People were speaking to me but I couldn't answer. A couple of first aiders came over and called my daughter and dialled 999 for an ambulance.  The paramedics too me to the local hospital where I had a number of checks. I was already waiting for an appointment for a 3 day echocardiogram they put me on a drip for the rest  of the day a d sent me home at 11.00 pm. While I was there I  saw the specialist who said I wasn't to drive again till they said I could. I had not been driving much as my eyesight is getting worse. 

At the end of last week I received a package from the hospital which contains a thing I have to stick on my chest for 14 days to measure my heart or something. I haven't used it yet as the instructions are too small for me to read. 

Sir, Do try to keep well following your doctor's advice; prayerfully, f

On 8/30/2021 at 11:18 AM, Musician4God1611 said:

The Necessity of Prayer

By E. M. Bounds

Hi @Musician4God1611 So what's the book like? I've heard of it, but haven't read it.

Prayer in Scripture can be a very absorbing and profitable thematic study.

On 9/12/2021 at 6:23 AM, E Morales said:

 the only ring that should be used, is the wedding ring. All others rings and piercing are for show and tell.

@E MoralesWell, what about neckties? I would have thought that earrings are in a similar category as neckties. Policing earrings doesn't make sense in my humble view.

PS: Someone mentioned hair; having it quite long at the top and trimmed at the sides can be an option for professional women; very broadly this is the kind of cut that my wife has had for many years; her dyed colour has varied over the years.

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8 minutes ago, Jordan Kurecki said:

It's not 100% true that the differences between editions were only corrections in printing errors and spelling changes. Honestly none of us have any real way of knowing why there were changes because it's not like we have a written record given by the people who did the slight revisions on why they made their changes. With that being said, the differences between the different editions of the KJV are MASSIVELY minuscule. 

I believe the point and reason why people say that is because people who are King James Only commonly are claiming 100%, every word perfection and accuracy for their text, yet in any given church, depending upon if you have an Oxford or Cambridge, there will be actual substantial differences in some places, for some example there is a passage in Jeremiah that has "he" in one edition and "ye" in another edition, or in a list of Joshua one edition may say "or sheba" and another edition may say "and sheba"

In reaction to this point, there is a charismatic pentecostal in Australia that claims "God" audibly spoke to him and told him that a specific edition he calls the "Pure Cambridge Edition" is the perfect KJV edition. 

The reason why people bring this up is because the original 1611 edition of the KJV does have some differences of substance, though minor, from most of the editions that people are carrying and using today. You can say all the differences are "just printing change and spelling changes".. but honestly nobody really knows if that's true. in 1769 when Blayney did his revision, none of the translators of the KJV were alive anymore, had he "corrected" printing errors, he would have technically had to do "textual criticism" on the English editions of the KJV available to him in that day in order to do that. Because KJVOist present the KJV as a 100% every word perfect text, pointing out that the text has changed in different editions, even though extremely minor, is an attempt to point out an inconsistency. Personally the substantial differences between KJV editions to me is really a non issue because the differences are so massively minor. 

Most KJVO people are unaware that there are different editions of the KJV text floating around out there, in any church that is KJVO its not uncommon for people to unknowingly have different editions amongst the congregation, albeit again the differences are so minor no one probably even notices. 

To be fair, most KJV people would NOT be willing to pardon the kind of differences seen between the different editions of the KJV, if those same kinds of differences were differences between say, the KJV and the NKJV. For example in 1 John 5:13, one of the previous editions of the KJV is missing a phrase like "of God" which is now currently found in pretty much all current editions. If a modern translation removed "of God" from that verse, many people would be ranting and raving about the modern translation for "removing God".

Hi @Jordan KureckiI have used the King James extensively for years and greatly appreciate it. I do think that its use has been undermined in some ppl's minds because of some the rather exaggerated rhetoric that is sometimes made about it, lacking in historical accuracy, evincing the response in some ppl's minds: "Well, I can't possibly agree with that statement".

Although I don't agree with all it says, James White's The King James Only Controversy has a lot of good points to it.

It's good also to remember that some believers in other countries who operate simple dispensaries in rather basic conditions will often have to make decisions on the basis of limited availability about items for ingestion based on herbs and plants, in places where there is little regulatory regime at all.

It would be unwise to try to hold such believers - sometimes veteran missionaries - to what is supposedly "correct and proper" in very conservative local church circles in North America, when the situations they have faced for years are markedly different.

16 hours ago, SureWord said:

"Forever" is how Americans write it. 

"For ever" the Brits.

@SureWordInteresting distinction; and I'm reminded of the hymn: 'For ever with the Lord! Amen! so let it be', etc.

1 minute ago, BrotherTony said:

I have many favorite hymns...some from my days in churches outside of the Baptist realm from when I was a young child and our family attended a small OLD Methodist church that preached God's Word and didn't go along with the mainline Methodist churches of the time. Being of Irish descent, one of the favorites I had as a child was named "Be Thou My Vision." It was one of my great Uncle John's, who was a Methodist pastor at that time. We sang this in many of the IFB churches my wife and I attended after we first got married, and it's pretty much disappeared from view these days with the advent of CCM and Country and Southern Gospel into our churches of today. There are many more I could name, but one in particular is "It Is Well With My Soul." Shortly after I was saved that hymn was one of the respites during the many storms the Lord allowed my wife and I to go through! 

Thanks, @BrotherTony!

Hymns can indeed encourage; especially if the content has good, Biblical content!

Well, at our Bible class my wife reads Scripture verses and makes suggestions; and it's actively encouraged; and we don't see this as incompatible with the NT.

She used to teach as her secular employment; this is a separate context, of course.

2 hours ago, 282Mikado said:

There are soooo many great hymns.

The first that comes to my mind is Abide With Me, especially when play on the strings.

I need Thy presence every passing hour;
What but Thy grace can foil the tempter’s pow’r?

So true.

It Is Finished is also right up there.

Thank-you!

Here's another, by Charitie Lees Bancroft:

.....................

Before the throne of God above
I have a strong and perfect plea,
A great High Priest whose name is Love,
Who ever lives and pleads for me.
My name is graven on his hands,
My name is written on his heart;
I know that while in heav'n he stands
No tongue can bid me thence depart,
No tongue can bid me thence depart.

2 When Satan tempts me to despair
And tells me of the guilt within,
Upward I look and see him there
Who made an end of all my sin.
Because the sinless Savior died,
My sinful soul is counted free;
For God the Just is satisfied
To look on him and pardon me,
To look on him and pardon me.

3 Behold him there! The risen Lamb,
My perfect, spotless righteousness;
The great unchangeable "I AM,"
The King of glory and of grace!
One with himself I cannot die,
My soul is purchased by his blood;
My life is hid with Christ on high,
With Christ, my Savior and my God,
With Christ, my Savior and my God.

On 5/12/2021 at 6:35 PM, Rebecca said:

I didn't know it was a common argument against the KJV when I say I use the KJV 1769 and not KJV 1611, because I do say this all the time and I am not against the KJV! I do think it is misleading to say 1611 if it's not the one you're actually using, though.  What's wrong with being accurate with the year of the KJV Bible you're using?

@RebeccaYes, it's good to be accurate; I agree.

If we actually looked at a page from the 1611 edition, it would have many archaisms in it.

There were other revisions done of the King James: in 1629, 1638 and 1762; what is commonly known as the King James is from 1769. Print formats vary greatly also; and in Commonwealth countries Crown Copyright applies, a fact not realized by many citizens of English-speaking republics.

Some editions (updates?) of the King James are so light that their publishers do not even refer to them as separate revisions; e.g., the KJ21.