Bro Jim

David, "danced unto the LORD" and was not in a hugging contest to music as most dancing seem to exhibit, and so worst than that. Personally even if a husband and wife are going to do it, it belongs in an intimate setting as it should be between them.

You might be a redneck if: It never occurred to you to be offended by the phrase, ‘One nation,under God..’

You might be a redneck if: You’ve never protested about seeing the 10 Commandments posted in public places.

You might be a redneck if: You still say ‘Christmas’ instead of ‘Winter Festival’

You might be a redneck if: You bow your head when someone prays.

You might be a redneck if: You stand and place your handover your heart when they play the National Anthem

You might be a redneck if: You treat our armed forces veterans with great respect, and always have.

You might be a redneck if: You’ve never burned an American flag, nor intend to.

You might be a redneck if: You know what you believe and you aren’t afraid to say so, no matter who is listening.

You might be a redneck if: You respect your elders and raised your kids to do the same.

You might be a redneck if: You’d give your last dollar to a friend.

Scripture please. The only responsibility my wife has in the church is to be my wife, anything over and above that is her decision to serve the Lord.

Scripture please. The only responsibility my wife has in the church is to be my wife, anything over and above that is her decision to serve the Lord.

Clean as mountain water..........

n_pray: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPr4ym4oK8g

Scripture clearly teaches that we can KNOW we are saved. Any person who is truly born again in Christ is saved forever. They are immediately sealed with the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost indwells them.

No one is saved by water baptism in any way at all.

Use of musical instruments in church has nothing to do with salvation and such is a matter of liberty and preference within the church.

Denominations are not sin, even if I, you or others agree or disagree with them. A denomination is simply a name applied to what is supposed to be like-minded churches for the sake of identity.

The CoC obviously holds to strange traditions which, like the traditions of the Pharisees, adds to the Word of God and the burdens added serve only as stumbling blocks and hindrances.

I've given fair hearing to your comments in this thread, as well as others, concerning the views of the CoC. I've compared them with Scripture and in several key areas the views of the CoC do not stand.

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Just about done with the "Laramie" series. If you like the old westerns, I would recommend this one. Season 4 (the last season) is of poorer quality than the others, ut all the rest are good, family entertainment. There is, however lots of fighting and shooting, but no unwholesome materiel in them. Also finished seasons 1-3 of "The Virginian", and that was good too. Makes good watching on those rainy days.

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Some will be taken when Jesus comes, some will be left, and in some parts of the world it will be daylight, yet other parts of the world it will be during the night.

CHURCH OF CHRIST
[Comments in brackets by Pastor David Warner - Faithful Baptist Church Omak, WA]

In a book entitled ‘Where The Saints Meet’, Mac Lynn states that the total number of churches of Christ in the United States and her territories is about 13,410 with a total membership of 1,277,004.

They believe that they are the only true Christian church and that they can trace their roots back to that first church in Jerusalem (sounds just like we independent Baptists…sort of).

The Church of Christ claims to reserve for itself the only scriptural name for a New Testament church, although the term "church of Christ" is found nowhere in the Bible.

“We are undenominational and have no central headquarters or president. The head of the church is none other than Jesus Christ himself. Each congregation of the churches of Christ is autonomous, and it is the Word of God that unites us into One Faith. We follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and his holy Apostles, and not the teachings of man. We are Christians only!” (Church-of-Christ.org) [not a bad statement at all]

Let's look at the three predominant CHOCD groups. The first group, most commonly known as the "One Cup Brethren" has no musical instruments in their worship service and one single shared cup for communion. The second group known as the "Cups Brethren" has no musical instruments but has multiple cups for their communion service. Then the third group known as the "Instrumental Brethren" has multiple cups and musical instruments. The "One Cup" branch commonly refers to the "Cups Brethren" as the "Digressive CHOC" and calls the "Musical Instrument Brethren" the "Liberal CHOC". Then lastly (as if this wasn't confusing enough) we have a branch of the CHOCD that has actually changed it's name to the International CHOC. The other three branches have branded this group (sociologically and theologically) to be a full blown cult! [i wonder how many branches of independent Baptists there are? Close vs closed communion; soulwinning; training own pastors; Bride of Christ; no drums/tapes; non-registered; unaffiliated; no-Boards; women and pants; etc.!]

[They are all independent organizations and have no ‘official’ belief dogma; their ‘statement of faith’ is usually stated as such:]
“We are often asked for our statement of faith. The church of Christ is a non-denominational body which has no creed or doctrine other than the Bible and, therefore, has no statement of faith other than the Bible.”

The Church of Christ’s has 3 main theological heresies: Baptismal Regeneration; no musical instruments in worship; and rejection of the present day ministry of the Holy Spirit. It is important to note that not every Church of Christ church will necessarily believe the same on these 3 issues.

“The purpose of the ordinance is for the acquisition of pardon. At baptism, one enters a covenant relationship with Jesus Christ and becomes a part of the Lord's spiritual body, called the church. This is the same realm known as the kingdom of God, which is entered by the "new birth" process. Water immersion is the "one baptism", commanded by Jesus to be administered by us, to all people, as instructed in the great commission, and continues to the end of time.” (Grandby Church of Christ)

“The Bible teaches that sinners are saved by grace through faith, which includes belief in Christ, repentance, confession, and baptism” (Gonzalez Church of Christ)

The Church of Christ believes in a general resurrection and judgment for all people, both saved and lost at the same time. This perversion of truth is known as A-Millennialism (No Millennium).

[They have a salvation that is brought about through the waters of baptism!]
“You should know that by baptism: You are saved from sins… You have remission of sins… Sins are washed away by the blood of Christ… You put on Christ and become a child of God… You are born again, a new creature.”
(Church-of-Christ.org)

Worship in churches of Christ is very simple. It tends toward participation as opposed to one being a spectator. Christians meet to sing a cappella, as is authorized by the nine verses in the New Testament that discuss the music the early Christians practiced. The Lord’s supper is observed upon the first day of every week, just as was done in the first century.” (Borden Church of Christ)

[What is interesting is how similar they are to independent Baptists (and yet oh so different): Many COC groups believe
1) they are the only true church(es); 2) they came directly from Jerusalem; 3) the Bible is the sole authority and is preserved and inerrant; 4) the sign gifts passed away at the end of the 1st century; 5) music needs to be very conservative.]

Extraordinary!

Adam's were covered by the shed blood of the animals that provided the skins.
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

Noah was a preacher of righteousness & in the Spirit preached to the antediluvians - now in prison - who were disobedient in the days of Noah.

1P4 adds to that - the gospel WAS preached to them that ARE dead.

No need for all that weird interpretation - just believe what is written.

Sounds good to me...I just read them through but, I'll look at them in detail tomorrow. Thanks!

Spiritual discernment is something that comes from God and is necessary to rightly divide the Word of Truth. Proverbs, and elsewhere, tells us of the importance of discernment as we read the Word and live our lives.

Wisdom, discernment and understanding is something I pray for as I read, study and meditate upon the Word. I pray for these in my daily walk as well.

Scripture says we are to walk in the Spirit, not in the flesh. We can only do this with God given and Holy Ghost directed discernment.

Of course we have to be cautious and rightly discerning even with discernment! Spiritual discernment will always be in accord with the Word of God. We must always be careful that we don't confuse our own thoughts with discernment from God. We must beware of the trickery of the Enemy in trying to influence us, even disguised as angels of light. In order to be appropriately cautious, we must have a close relationship with our Father in heaven. Much wisdom, discernment and understanding is given to us through times of intimate prayer.

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A farmer's pickup was pulling a horse trailer when it was hit by a tractor trailer. When the case got to court, the trucking company's lawyer asked the farmer, "Didn't you say, sir, at the scene of the accident, 'I'm fine?'"

The farmer responded, "Well, I'll tell you what happened. I had just loaded my favorite mule, Bessie, into the ..."

"I didn't ask for any details," the lawyer interrupted. "Just answer the question. Did you not say, at the scene of the accident, 'I'm fine'?"

The farmer reiterated, "Well I had just got Bessie into the trailer and I was driving down the road ..."

The lawyer interrupted again and said, "Judge, I'm trying to establish the fact that, at the scene of the accident, this man told the Highway Patrolman on the scene that he was just fine. Now several weeks after the accident he is trying to sue my client. I believe he is a fraud. Please tell him to simply answer the question."

By this time, the Judge was fairly interested in the farmer's answer and said to the lawyer, "I'd like to hear what he has to say about his favorite mule, Bessie."

The farmer thanked the Judge and proceeded. "Well, as I was saying, I had just loaded Bessie, my favorite mule, into my trailer and was driving her down the highvay when this huge semi-truck and trailer ran the stop sign and smacked my truck right in the side.

"I was thrown into one ditch and Bessie was thrown into the other. I was hurting real bad and didn't want to move. However, I could hear Bessie moaning and groaning. I knew she was in terrible shape just by her groans.

"When the Highway Patrolman arrived, he heard Bessie moaning and groaning so he went over to her first. After he looked at her and saw her condition, he took out his gun and shot her right 'tween the eyes.

"Then, the patrolman, he came across the road, gun still smoking, looked at me and said, 'How are you feeling?'

"Now, what in the world would YOU say?"

Do you know I at first considered posting this in the biblical issues forum because it's acutally so accurate?

It's rather sad when jokes such as this are so factual.

The thing that has helped me most in my 30 plus years as a saved person affiliated with the IFB, is to have an "ignore" button in my brain for just such instances and people!

My pastor had to deal with something similar to this. He said he just finds an "alpha-female" and asks her to go and talk to the lady.

How unbelievably awkward, it's amazing the things that pastors have to deal with.

I listened to a sample of this song on Stuart Townend's website. His use of rock music causes me to not only reject this song, but everything else that he has to offer. His music is a snare of the devil. Do not be deceived by his vain words.

Ephesians 5:6 - "Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience."

A Poem and a Prayer

Dear Holy Spirit,
Thank you for your sweet voice within;
Thank you for the great power of your presence;
Thank you for walking daily with me;
Thank you for your gracious “Pleasance”.

You’re a very great friend indeed;
A Guide and a companion to such a wretch as I;
Ever strengthening, ever encouraging,
Ever faithful, ever building me.
Thank you for standing by me in those late night hours;
Thank you for controlling my dreams, influencing my thoughts;
Thank you for your ever-present love.

What an amazing person you are; what an amazing friend;
You are more to me than words can express;
More precious than any treasure, future or past;
More practical and precious than life itself.

You are more than words can express;
More powerful than the splitting of the atom;
More gentle than the lovely petals of a rose;
Sweeter than the sugar cane,
Better than a faithful friend.

Than you for “taking me in”, for adopting me;
Thank you for caring when no one else did;
Wayward youths we were, bound for hell;
Thank you for making a difference in my life.

Thank you for being all that I need; all that I could ever hope for;
You’ve made my life worthwhile.
You’ve given me hope.
Thank you Holy Spirit for everything you are,
And for all that you so wonderfully do in my life,
And in the lives of so many others.

I know that you are much more than these futile words can say;
How can evil lips describe thy holiness, thy love?
There is no love in all the world—e’en in the universe
Like your love, oh God, none so pure and good.

Thank you for being my sustenance; my friend; my love…
Occupy me fully now please;
Quicken thou my lowly spirit;
Make me your companion in grief;
Cause me to accomplish that which is good.

Thank you, Holy Spirit, for absolute being;
Take now my heart and make it to glorify thee;
Point me in the way of service, of truth;
Cause my hands to “do”, and my feet to “go”,
And my will to be surrendered to thee.

Strengthen my walk before thee, oh God,
And accept my unworthy praise;
Let me be to others the friend you are to me.
Thank you Lord, and I love you.

Ron Paul Is A Vicious Anti-Semite and Anti-American and Conservatives Need To Wash Their Hands of Him

So some of you want Ron Paul for president.

I've heard that comment made about aggressive soul winning too. It is up to God and Him alone we cannot force God to do anything, We cannot force of command God, there is a group ut there that believes you can, and think they are called "Word of Faith", you are sick, etc. because you have not commanded God to heal you, therefore you are in sin.

I think the main signs for Christians to notice will be more spiritual in nature than anything physical. As such, I don't think there will any way to even estimate a general span of the end coming within a certain period of time.

Many saw the "sign" of Israel becoming a nation again in 1948 as a sign that Christ would return within 40 years. That didn't happen. Many then changed their speculation to Christ returning 40 years after the Jews took over Jerusalem. Again, didn't happen.

I believe the signs we (Christians) are to be looking at are mostly within the spiritual realm. The spiritual climate in the churches, including our own church, as well as in our nation and around the world.