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  1. Only in the last few years did I realize that I was considered a saint of God, and I've been saved for years!! So glad I can grow in my faith :)

    In March of 2004 I visited Italy, my sister was stationed in Naples and one weekend we went to Rome. That was quite the experience. We happened to be there on the day of a beatification ceremony. Really jsut the experience of being in a beautiful city was all we got out of it. We saw John Paul... it was kind of sad really because he was obviously not well at all. The whole process was completely foreign to us not being Catholic or knowing Latin and Italian. He died exactly one year later give or take a day. Looking back I wish I had known more than I do now so that I could personally stand up for my faith the truth, but I suppose at the time my sister and I were just excited to be in Rome on what seemed like an important day.

    Well that was a lame story that really doesn't much matter.. but I'm definitely thankful to be a saint of God, no fancy ceremony or inquiry in to my past!

  2. There is a girl I have as a FB friend that my husband and I went to high school with. I wasn't ever good friends with her but I knew her and talked to her sometimes. Anyway she sent me the friend request a couple months back and in a way, ever since then, I sort of wish she had not. She posted that first week about having a hard week, wishing things would look up, life needs to be normal, etc... so I tried to post some encouraging comments to her and tell her I will pray for her. She said she appreciated it but that was about it. I suppose as the weeks went on I realized it wasn't an isolated issue, but a frequent thing she does so my replies became more rare. I even encountered very hateful responses from other friends of hers downing my faith and the Lord. It was disheartening to see but I left it be and still try to occasionally respond to a post if I feel led to do so. I do not believe I should respond to everything for I feel it would be like giving too much sympathy for her situation that she seems to keep herself in. Afterall, if you took all of her posts and laid them out side-by-side you'd see how strikingly similar they are.

    I don't want to delete her or hide her posts because I feel it is important for me to keep her in my prayers when she posts. She gets vulgar at times on some status posts usually showing hatred towards people.. mostly general statements, nothing directed towards a specific person. Those posts I do not like, but the Lord gives me the strength to look past them and not dwell on them. She has two young children that she is in and out of court over custody matters involving them, can't seem to get a jOB and as far as I can tell, is not a Christian.

    Would you handle this any differently, or maybe are you in a similar situation either online or in person that you could give ME some words of encouragement? I appreciate any help, you all are always here when I need it :)

  3. Our church only uses a piano. It's not a small church, but it's not huge either. There's no room in our sanctuary for an orchestra. And from what my husband gathered when he attended a Discipleship class they aren't much for anything beyond a piano. On occasion one gentleman will get up and play his guitar and sing a couple songs but that is very rare. They did talk that night about getting all the guitar players together to practice and maybe do something, I think that would be a nice little treat for the men to use their talents. My husband plays guitar and should play it more with Christian music than he does so I'm all for the guys getting together to do that.

    I think orchestras are beautiful but I wouldn't be interested in having part of my worship service. We keep it simple with a few songs in the beginning (typically one or two by the choir and one by the congregation) and then another song at the end during invitation with the congregation. The choir doesn't stay up front the whole time either. The preacher doesn't want the church to be distracted from the word I'm sure, so during one of the congregational singings in the beginning they filter out in to the pews.



  4. Yes, cubfan, they absolutely do. Anyone who has gone through the lessons that the missionaries teach (which we did - several times) learns this. Reading the Pearl of Great Price, Book of Moses, Book of Abraham and the Book of Mormon reinforces the teaching. One thing that wasn't pointed out (well, I stopped watching at the point of eternal marriage, so they may have said it, but it didn't seem like they were going to) is that: being married in the temple creates an eternal marriage (which was mentioned). But...it is the man who is the god, not the woman. And so in eternity, he can choose to call her up to join him on his planet and bear his spirit children. So, if he has more than one wife on the earth, he has a number to choose from...

    My mom's best friend was married to a Mormon. They had not gotten married in the temple. However, he had been married before - and that marriage was sealed. Her heart was broken because she wouldn't be h is wife in eternity...Two of his daughters and his son are good Mormons. One daughter has never been. One was, and was married in the temple. She has been divorced for many years: there is something about that ceremony that changes people. Many of the men who go through it really become icky, for lack of a better word - because now they are heading for godhood (godhood cannot be attained if the man never marries...)

    I've never heard of anyone in a watered down church leaving it for stronger standards and joining the Mormon church (there are no standards in the Mormon church to speak of). I have heard, though, of many who have been attracted to the "family emphasis" (which anyone who has lived in Utah can refute!) in the church. And I know personally of young people who have joined because they have dances and don't frown on rock music.

    My mom's friend's hubby had a list of requirements for a church - and there were only two churches that fit the bill: Mormon Catholic. Many Mormons (used to) say that if they left the Mormon church they would join the Catholic (funny thing - I work with a lady who is Catholic. Her daughter became a Mormon and she is very unhappy with her daughter being in a cult <_< ). It was actually due to some conversations we were having with him that we began the lessons. There are 7 total. The missionaries teach the first 6 and you don't get the 7th until after you are baptized. We never got baptized, but we had missionaries coming to our house for a couple of years. We went through several sets. Long story as to why they were coming, but in the end, I'm glad we had them. I learned a lot more than just the 6 lessons!

    Mormonism is a Luciferian religion with roots in the occult aspect of Freemasonry. Up to and including the special underwear they have to keep on their bodies for protection. No joke. Serious Mormons don't even take it off completely when they bathe. They always have at least a part of it on their bodies.

    It's a sad religion. One that makes some people feel good (as John mentioned Glen Beck...but, honestly, I think if he knew the whole story behind what they believe, he'd reject it), but, of course, doesn't get them to Heaven.


    An officer that used to work with me is Mormon and I only recently learned about that underwear deal. Very strange. The guys say he always wore this white t-shirt thing or something.

    That video is absolutely the most awful, humorous thing I've seen all week. Wow. Almost as bad if not just as bad as the Scientology cult. I saw a PBS documentary last year about their geneology and record keeping. They have an enormous library of names of deceased, and people who are high enough in the church are baptized in the name of those people to save them. Craziness.
  5. I should not have said what I did to him. No but about it. I am OBviously not the only one concerned about his approach and demeanor in our fundamental beliefs. He always struck me as a guy who would stand beside the WBC and protest a funeral :eek I don't know, though, he's definitely strong minded.

  6. TC, can I call you a hussy? I don't like your photo and it looks hussy-ish.

    Thanks for telling me it's ok to use those words. I feel so much better now.........

    Oh that wasn't true.




  7. Good post, but could you post a link, or links, to some songs with the "breathy" style you are talking about because I really don't know what that means. :icon_mrgreen: Not sure about the "lounge" singer meaning either, so maybe a link for something like that if you can. When I think of "lounge" music for some reason I think of Dean Martin. :coffee2:


    I always think of pop/country artists who do covers of Christmas song/hymns. That can be pretty awful. I read someone once talk about how Jessica Simpson recorded O, Holy Night. Yeaaaaah, not good. But that's more of an example of an old hymn being reproduced, not so much a CCM style song. I wouldn't even know where to search for one of those to be honest.



  8. Actually, Lisa, many IFB don't even use guitars. We don't. That is a preference, completely. Our missionaries in Africa would use something besides a piano if their congregation could play the instrument. Bongo drums and electric guitars would be out, though, because of their associations. If an instrument fits into the categories of stringed (piano, violin, harp, horn or percussion, it's Biblical to use it, within reason. And I say within reason because we all know humans tend to go overboard on things... :biggrin:


    We don't use guitars. The reason I say that is because a couple missionaries we had visit our church do occasionally. I don't think they use it as a permanent part of their services like we do the piano, but their families have a few songs they sing.

  9. I have to say that I don't know who this gentleman is. But I am so glad someone gave him a New Testament. Now I hope he reads it. I don't know, because I've never listened to him before, but he sure seemed moved by the gift!


    He's a pretty raunchy comedian. PrOBably a good thing you don't know who he is, but I agree, he did seemed very moved by it.
  10. Wow, very opposite of his typical behavior. Was a little saddened when he said "I know there is no God..." but somebody did plant the seed. God bless the man who spoke to Penn and I'm praying Penn will see that there is a God.


  11. It all depends on the heart and how it is structured.

    FOr example, in the church I currently attend, the band is off to the side and you can't really see them. The focal point is a wooden cross at the front. The music comes from the heart of the people, many of the songs written by people in our congregation. Music is an element, as is Scripture reading, prayer a sermon and communion.

    I've seen 0other churches where it does seem showy, and that is not right. However, I don't think you can judge solely by the style of music. Like I said, and African church would look far different than what we are accustomed to.

    I don't know how you can dismiss the Psalms, the drums, cymbals and horns praising God, David dancing in the streets, people thinking converts were drunk on the day of Pentecost.

    Help me understand, cause I'm having much trouble. I can understand if you say you must only use Psalms because that is in the text. I can follow that logic, but I cannot follow the logic of hymns written after Biblical times being ok, but songs written today not.


    Not all hymns were written during biblical times, they are written strictly upon scripture of the Bible. If you could take the time to read brosmith's books it does give a good insight in to CCM and even outlines a couple of songs. Whether a band is visible or not isn't even the issue here I don't believe.

    Surely the others on this board can give their explanation of CCM. And let's not forget the IFB missionaries in Africa starting up IFB churches. I can assure you there wouldn't be any CCM or instruments aside from possibly an acoustic guitar or piano in their church if they are a true IFB church.
  12. I attended a funeral today of a young 16year old boy who died a day after he struck by a car on the 29th of November. Thank the Lord he got saved an baptized at our church about 2 years ago! Unfortunately my babysitter's daughter is in the hospital so I was without a sitter but was encouraged to come anyway... that lasted all of 15 minutes. Nonetheless the service was held at a contemporary Baptist church but our pastor officiated the ceremony (Thank the Lord for that as well). The piano player/singer for the church was also playing piano while everyone filtered in to the auditorium and opened the service by playing the piano and singing "I Can Only Imagine." Being a funeral I have to admit it was still very emotional. She has a beautiful voice and the piano playing was excellent, but I wish the family had chosen another song. She added the "Yeah Yeah's" and all near the end... I don't know, God bless the young man's family but personally the music choice was not very honoring of what will really be going on with his in God's Kingdom. I guess it doesn't matter to him because he is gone now, but I don't know what kind of message it sent to the lost in the crowd, or the saved who appreciate that song as glorifying to our Lord. Our assistant pastor preached one Sunday evening and brought up that song about how scripturally wrong it is so I can only imagine, no pun intended, what was going through his mind sitting there, hopefully prayers as that is what was going though mine. That was the first time I ever heard a pastor directly speak of CCM, although I have never been raised to appreciate it, that gave me a better understanding to why we shouldn't listen to it in our churches or anywhere for that matter.

    I don't know why I brought that up, but I think it is important for us to remember how the devil can sneak in anywhere even during the funeral of a saved teenager.

  13. I think Contemporary Christian Music takes the glory away from the Lord and puts it on the artist. brosmith, forgive me if you said that in your book that I just finished reading. I agree with your book, and think that if the church wants to remain separate from the world accepting CCM in to the church defeats that entire purpose.

    It is sad to see churches incorporate that style of music. Listen to it on your own, although I highly do not recommend it, but don't bring it in to my church.


  14. Too funny, John! Kids come up with the neatest expressions!

    As we were raising our son, we did not teach him about Santa. We didn't really teach him that Santa was wrong, either. We just didn't talk about "him" unless Josh mentioned it. My folks knew from years before I ever got married that I wasn't going to teach any of my children that Santa gave gifts. I felt that it was a real misrepresentation (lie!!) because the parents or grandparents who worked to earn the money to buy the gifts don't get the credit in the kids' eyes, and so gratitude goes to a non-existent being. Beyond the fact that Santa is a "stand-in" for God, I really believed that it took away from honoring parents. Fortunately, my husband was of the same mind...

    I remember the Christmas Josh was 3. My parents were visiting us and my mom, son and I were shopping. He was sitting in the cart, my mom was pushing the cart (had to be as close to grandson #1 as she could :icon_mrgreen: ) and I was walking alongside. A short distance away was the store Santa. He saw Josh and made a beeline for him. Funny thing is, the look on his face. I guess he was intent on getting to the kid or something, because he looked almost mad. Josh saw him coming (and the guy was moving fast, too), started crying and climbed up out of the cart and over my mom's shoulder (I got him before he fell off her back)!!!! I was so shocked. He'd never reacted that way before, to the Santa's out ringing bells or anywhere else. I think it was the unexpectedness and quickness of it, as well as the look on the guy's face.

    Later, he wanted to talk about it, and so we did. And we explained to him just what Santa was supposed to be and why we didn't recognize him as such - and let him know that he didn't need to be fearful of a store Santa. A few years later, one of the mothers for whom I babysat came to me and blasted me because I told her son Santa wasn't real. I told her I did no such thing, would never do that because it's up to her if she wants to lie to her son or not. Come to find out, Josh told him. :icon_mrgreen:


    LOL poor kid! If only he would react that way to ever creepy old man that charged at him with a crazy face. Well, I hope nOBody ever does that but you get the humor I'm sure.

    It'll be an interesting year to see what family/friends say about our lack of acknowledgment for Santa. I have some decorations with Santa we use but the point about him will be clear. There was a thread on another message board I go to every now and then about Santa... when your kids found out he wasn't real. This is one of the replies... "I told my 9 & 11 year old daughters about a month ago. I decided to tell them both, because there is NO way they can keep a secret from each other. I decided they were old enough and I didn't want to be in a situation where I was lying to them about something. The first thing my 9 year old said was, "You've been lying to us all this time?" I tried to explain that we did it, so she could experience the fun of Santa, but she wasn't too happy we had made her believe in something that isn't for real. They will still get their stockings filled and get gifts laid out from Santa. That will happen until they move out of my house. The surprise part of it is just so fun for them." That is precisely the situation I don't want to be in. Who knows how my kid will react. She may not care, or she may be heartbroken.

  15. You can and should deal with it up front but, it will never be behind you in this world. You get your children straightened out and you will have a mother beating on your door asking why your Jane told her little Timmy there is no Grinch oops, I mean Santa. I think there will be a great deal more teaching and training required to handle the battles which are ahead.

    Welcome back from KY and I hope the trip was enjoyable and free from contention.


    I can imagine, but I'll be glad to stand for my beliefs. I hope to combat some of that by homeschooling.. that may save some of the trouble in regards to all the school children. SO far it seems most of her little friends are church-based and as far as I have noticed many of them have the same beliefs.. some stronger than others but basically the same. I went to TN btw, live in KY lol. Thank you though for the welcome back. It was a good trip :)



    Lisa Anne, you are a courageous woman and I admire you. I can only imagine what your family would think if they knew your intentions about Santa Claus. I cannot imagine it would go over well, especially with the doting "grandmas". It would be hard for them to understand.

    You also humble me in another way. I have been struggling with my old friend the "holiday blues" a lot over the last few days. The holidays are certainly a joyful time, but also a very lonely time if you don't have a family. Your post reminds me that people with families travel through a minefield of struggles and difficulties that I cannot even imagine!

    I pray we both will "press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus." (Philippians 3:14)


    My mom won't mind much I don't think. She seems very laid back about that and growing up in a good Christian home she would surely understand. My dad is another story. He freaked when I told him I put my tree up two weeks before Thanksgiving. His girlfriend even told me by the time Christmas comes around my daughter will think it's just another piece of furniture... Doesn't bother me any : All the gifts they gave my daughter for Christmas are under the tree now (Dad gave them to me at Thanksgiving to save shipping). He might freak if I tell him that, too. I think 90% if not all of them say "From Santa." Any time Santa is used in my house he is strictly fictional and is a pretend something Mom, Dad, or whoever gave the gift are doing. My husband's mom... yeaaaaah that's a whole other story. She's Wiccan so anything she believes or thinks is beyond my realm of comprehension. Plus she has the mental capacity of a 6 year old.

    Cheer up, Miss Linda! We'll prOBably have to drag each other at times (although I pray we will walk side by side most of the time) but I do believe we can press toward that mark! The Lord will give us the strength to get through anything, I'm sure you know, but it is always good to hear others say it. I know I love reading your words.

  16. Praying and will bring it before the church tomorrow at Prayer Meeting.

    Lord touch these hearts as only your Holy Spirit can. In Your Name Amen.


    Thank you very much. He will have his service Friday at 1pm. It will be a local large contemporary Baptist church but praise the Lord our pastor will officiate! I was so glad to hear that after I learned of the location.
  17. How often do you hear people you know, or people online say that around the Christmas holiday?! And I'm referencing Santa, not Jesus. How terrible is that?! I don't plan on telling my daughter that Santa is real. We will have our own way of handling the Holidays that my husband and I have discussed. Gifts OBviously should not be all about Christmas but to use something that is blatantly not real and blackmail your kids that if they say anything to their younger siblings about Santa not being real then they don't get gifts? I don't take a severely strong opinion against the fictional character, but I'm not going to lead my child to believe it for however many years then go through the ridiculous turmoil of bribing them to stay quiet so little Jane or John doesn't find out, THEN having to deal with the heartbreak your child may face when they do realize Santa was a joke all along. Ok, that was my rant because if I said that anywhere else but here or in my home I'd get stoned to death :eek



  18. I would expect wishes like this from satanists like Schworer, but I thought you were a Christian. Shame.


    Cooper, I pray that your heart would not be so hardened. I'm sad that you are questioning Brother Matt's salvation... or anyone elses salvation on this board for that matter. If someone claims salvation leave the rest to the Lord. You prOBably shouldn't come along here critiquing every word they type to use against them. Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. 1 Peter 4:9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging

    Without the death of Christ we would have no resurrection of Christ, so I thank the Lord He gave His life for me!
  19. It is wonderful to see that our custodian is doing well, but yesterday I learned that we had another tragedy. A teenager that was reached by our church bus ministry was hit by a car after school and died early this morning. I don't know him but he got saved and baptized at the church a couple years ago. His father does not attend church with him so we are praying for them during this hard time of losing a child and further praying that if they are not saved that they will come to Christ and start attending church regularly. Please also be in prayer for the young lady who hit him and her family. This is something that will be with her forever and I pray she overcomes guilt and other feelings she may be having at this time. Some people commenting on the article online are being hateful towards the young girl and that breaks my heart.

    http://www.thenewsenterprise.com/content/pedestrian-dies-injuries

  20. I hear that Mickey (the custodian) is beginning to be more responsive, opening his eyes more, and completely off the breathing machine! Praise the Lord! I hope to hear more good news tomorrow prOBably at evening service but please do continue to remember him and his family in your prayers!

  21. I did just want to update. All went well yesterday, most of the focus was on my daughter who opened up a lot from previous years. Prayer before dinner was awkward because they started out with the "father, son, holy spirit" dealio. Not sure if any of you are familiar with that prayer but I grew up on it. My husband and I kept our heads bowed and didn't participate. My dad told me this morning before we left that he was proud of what I'm doing with my family and gave me kudos. He never said anything about our faith but I have a feeling he is glad that we are trying to raise our daughter well in a Christian home.

    I'm very grateful all went well and we were able to enjoy ourselves with the family. We had a great time :)

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