Brother Rick

So is truth! -- Eric E Stahl

There is a vast difference between working together and compromising ones principles or the principles they claim to be for.

None of the candidates could get everything they put forth, most wouldn't even try, of those that would try some of it they would be too quick to compromise away the best of it while accepting much bad in return.

Of all the candidates, Paul is the only one who actually try to bring about meaningful reformation. All the other candidates would allow the government to continue to grow, the budget to continue to increase, the deficit to continue to balloon, and American continue playing world cop, most often in a judge, jurey and executionor manner.

One of the best things that could happen, if we can't have a president who can bring about needed real reformation is a president who would stymie congress to the point where at least no more damage could be done.

Either way, history is against America and it's likely the best we can hope for (outside of another Great Revival) is a very temporary reprieve from the fast ride into the canyon. Ron Paul could potentially be that temporary detour, all the other candidates will continue America on the suicide ride.

I felt like I went to Heaven when I married Melissa nine years ago.

:ot: Since the "will a man rob God" thread has been revived, can we keep this thread for the original purpose?

Also, could anyone possibly answer my question in the Rapture thread with regards to Dr.Jeremiah and his teaching on pre-trib/pre-mil?

Thank you!!!

My family sacrifices by tithing and giving to missions, even when I had to work three jobs while I watched my income drop about 20% and my expenses go up with two more kids and a college loan.

People love to split hairs about whether it's God's plan to for the New Testament church, and usually you can read their hearts from the moment they open their mouths. The mantra of modern Laodicean Christianity is, "Don't you dare ask me to sacrifice anything for my Christianity!"

My family tithes because we believe in what our church is doing. We are willing to sacrifice and go without to support the ministry of our local church.

Many times when faced with decisions I ask myself, "If every Christian did what I'm about to do, what would the church be like?"

Well, if every Christian found a way to justify not tithing, and ducked out of it, then there would be little to no local churches or missionaries.

Actually, the history of Romney, Gingrich and Santorum would greatly suggest they will not abide by the words they use to get elected.

Some of the main things discussed recently with these candidates is the belief Romney will compromise in order to "get stuff done". That always means the left gets most of what they want.

Gingrich calls attention to his ability to compromise in order to "get things done". Again, such compromise typically means the left gets most of what they want.

Santorum points out that while he was in congress he was willing to compromise his beliefs and vote for things he was against just to be a "good" Republican.

Meanwhile, Ron Paul has decades of records showing that he has consistently held to the same beliefs and voted accordingly.

No one things Ron Paul is perfect, but he's certainly the most honest candidate running and also appears to be the only GOP candidate running who has a true core set of principles they actually believe and live by.

Yep, that's the argument!

Whenever it comes, I pray my family will be ready.

I see the benefits of dispensationalism twofold:

1. It helps to organize the Bible in a way that is easier to study and comprehend. This doesn't mean that the way it was organized is the final authority; it's just a way to better understand the final authority, that is, the Bible.

2. It makes teaching the Bible easier too, because of the organizational nature of it.

I organize the Bible into 10 dispensations when I'm studying it. Some do more, some less. All it is is a system to better understand God's word; I'm always a little perplexed by the antagonism against that. What'd wrong with using something that makes the Bible easier to teach and understand as long as it's not tampering with God word?

Check out my article on this:

http://ricksarticles.blogspot.com/2010/10/you-will-eat-your-dispensations-and-you_9535.html

An independent study of each candidates economic plan found that only one candidates plan would actually shrink the budget. All other plans, including the "conservative" GOP candidates plans would grow the government and add to the budget and deficit. Only the economic plan put forth by Ron Paul would actually live up to the claims and shrink the federal budget and deficit.

So, whether we get Mitt, Newt, Rick or Barak, the size of the government will grow, the budget will increase and the deficit will grow larger. Then in another four years we will probably be treated to another round of lies from candidates claiming they will reduce government spending.

Well judging by his past decisions we know that he is a Statist. Not as extreme as President Obama but a Statist nonetheless.

Would he disband the Dept of Education among others and shrink the size of government by 1/2 in his first term? Nope.

Would he advance an agenda that would jumpstart the economy for a time and remove the burdens placed upon it by regulators? Yes and mostly No.

Since he is the author of Romney Care, will he really get rid of Obama Care? I doubt it.

When the Lord provides him the oppurtunity to crush the liberals politically will he take it? No, he'll likely be like George W. Bush and try to make friends with them while ignoring all those knives in his back and red wrists.

Will a President Romney shrink the size of the Federal Government? Nope.

PIZZA, PIZZA!!! :godisgood:

Some have said maybe Enos, who walked with God. Of course all we can do is guess, but it seems that he has a position of great honor in heaven.

I said this in another thread but I think it fits here as well:

I was watching a debate the other day and it made me sick how Romney and Santorum were going back and forth talking about what bailouts were good and what bailouts were bad, right after Santorum just got done explaining why he voted for something but now was running against what he voted for in the past.

What a breath of fresh air when Ron Paul said something like, "Bailouts are never good, that's like saying if a man goes into a bank and robs it and gets away with it, it was good, but if he gets caught then it's not good."

The people who work in Washington are so blind to the fact that they have no right to do what they've been doing for years and years. I'm amazed we still have a Constitution.

Not the father of mine.

Most teach the Holy Ghost is removed when the Rapture takes place. They say this is why the devil and wickedness runs rampant at that time.

However, the idea the Holy Ghost is removed from the earth and yet there are to be many saved at the same time doesn't agree with what Scripture says regarding the Holy Ghost and salvation.

Go on a low carbohydrate diet - cut out bread, corn, potatoes, rice, pasta, etc & eat more protein, including natural fat (e.g cheese & nuts & fatty meat, vegetables, & a little fruit. 100 g (3 1/2 oz) carb daily (max) & 1800 calories max. You do not need carb for energy.

I started that diet 4 years ago when diabetes complications were setting in. I lost weight (about 14 lb) mobility was restored, & chronic tiredness ceased, & retina damage is no longer reported. I'm still very fit & play tennis & table tennis at club standard at 73.

Also my Scriptural understanding & reasoning continues to improve thanks to your challenges.

Far too often it's not a "viable option" because of one thing: greed.

They want to make more money or have more things and they're willing to stick their head in the sand and offer their children to Moloch while they're doing it.

Sending one's kids to public school should never, ever be looked upon as a preference - Romans 14 does not apply. It's a terrible thing to have to send your kid to public school and a Christian parent is lying to himself if he thinks otherwise. If you really have to and there's no other way, then so be it, but don't be naive about what you're getting yourself into.

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"He" refers the last person mentioned, the prince that shall come, and the prince that shall come confirms the covenant for 7 years, then stops animal sacrifices and commits the abomination of desolation.

No twisting, stretching, or subtracting of the text is needed.

I believe the proof is in the pudding. Very rarely do you hear stories of homeschooled Christian kids dabbling in drugs, getting pregnant, coming out, or turning 180 degrees away from what their church teaches. Sometimes you'll see them get lazy in their 20s and drift off from church or something, or they’ll go to college and then do all the above things.

The public school system is geared towards indoctrinating one's children against God. To think one can overcome this with Sunday school and a nice youth group activity now and then is ridiculous. Sending one's kids to public school in of itself is not raising them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, it is putting them in place to fail. The availability of wickedness and debauchery is much worse now than when I was a kid, and I'm only 32 years old. I see public school grads all the time come out with an inability to formulate logic, an inability to determine what is right outside of what the law states, an insatiable desire to party and avoid work, rotten attitudes, and a disgusting spirit of entitlement.

The fact is liberals don't reproduce as fast a conservatives because they're too busy aborting all their children or too selfish to have kids. But they don't have to reproduce when they can just recruit our children and indoctrinate them. That is exactly what they do and to say otherwise just proves a person's ignorance on this issue.

The fact is homeschooled kids have a much better chance of succeeding in work, marriage, and in the Lord.

Many times in life we find ourselves in bad situations. Sometimes this is a crummy marriage, a bad job atmosphere, an unfortunate debt situation, the list goes on and on. Most of the time, but not always, these bad situations are a result of our own actions. In the end though, it doesn't matter how you (when I say "you" I'm using the word generally, not specific to any person reading this) got into the situation as much as how you are going to handle the problems that come with it. You can't bail on your marriage; you have to make it work. Look for a different job, and stay close to the Lord while you are. A wicked man borroweth and payeth not again, so you're stuck with your load of debt until you pay it off.

It is a bad situation to have to send one's kids to a public school, and the sooner that person realizes it the sooner they can focus on trying to change the situation or counteract it. You have to treat the time they are at school as exactly what it is: fleshly indoctrination against God. Then when they get home you have to do everything you can to counteract this. Your poor kids are forced onto a vicious battleground between God and the world when they should be learning to love the Lord in the peace that comes with a godly home.

If a person finds themself in this situation it is of the upmost importance that they realize the severity of their predicament. They are in a battle for their little children against the one who is wiser than Daniel and the odds are against them. The moment they forget this or lose sight of it they’ve already lost.

Is it a sin to send your kids to public school? Well, it's certainly not good and doesn't exactly fit under the whole "raise them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord" command. Is it a sin to be married to someone who is not saved? It's certainly not good and doesn't fit with the command to not be yoked with an unbeliever. Is it a sin to have credit card debt? The Bible makes it clear that debt that isn't backed up by something is wrong and we should avoid it. But sometimes we find ourselves in situations and we can't do anything about it but hold on for dear life. At that point it's not how we got there, it's what we're going to do now that matters.

A person should do everything they can to avoid sending their kids to public school, but if they can't they need to recognize the system for what it is and do everything they can to hold onto their kids, or those poor children won’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell. Sorry if that sounds blunt, but it’s the truth.

Covenanter:

Actually, I don't think that the great tribulation of Matthew 24.21 refers to AD70 at all:

'For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.'

So, are you saying that any burden God gives to anyone automatically makes that a sin for everyone else? Where is that in scripture? And why are you allowed to have the Lord speak to you about something, but don't allow someone else that same courtesy without bludgeoning them about it?

An example I could give is the television. We do not have one. Because my husband was convicted of owning one before we ever met. It burdened him to see his family spend so much time away from each other in front of the tube. And so he promised God he would never have one in his home. And we never have. So, by your logic, any man on here who has one (I know not all do, but many do) in his home is in sin because my husband was burdened about it for his own family. Sorry, but that just isn't the way it works (and I'm not just talking about watching the tv...I'm talking about OWNING one - so, following that, anyone who owns one must get rid of it...see how illogical that is? And here's a good verse for it: I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes...)

Yes, fathers are to make decisions on whether or not to follow God's Word or the world. Each individual father, in each individual home. Some fathers make decisions for one thing, some for another (such as tv, in my above example). The case could be made for homeschooling against any other kind of schooling, and scripture could be used effectively. The case could also be made for Christian schooling against any other kind of schooling (including homeschool), and scripture could be used effectively (I've heard it preached, so I know it's done). The case could be made for public schooling as well, using scripture. I know it would be a stretch, but it's there. Like witnessing. Yes, I know of people who send their kids to public school to be a witness to the lost there. And those kids are pretty strong Christians. Do I agree with that? No way - but they aren't my kids.

This is the point I've been trying to make. It is absolute scripture that each man is to be the head of his home. Yes, under God. That shouldn't even have to be said on a Christian forum. Yes, in line with scripture - again redundant. But no man will do anything just like any other man - else we would just be robots (where scripture is completely clear, we are all to follow in exact formation else there is confusion). If a man, after prayer and scripture searching, cannot honestly say that God is showing him to homeschool or place his kids in a Christian school, then he ought not do so. The burden for training his children in the ways of the Lord then triple or quadruple as he must gear them for the battles they will face every day (just as Rick said in his last paragraph). But, to be quite honest, raising one's children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord is a whole lot harder than just not putting them in the public school. There are casualties in any education scenario we could come up with.

Rick, I hear you about the debauchery of the public schools. It has gotten much worse since I was in school, 20 years earlier than you. Sad to say, many Christian schools are going the same route - and started when I was still in school...I know because I attended more than one like that. Homeschooling isn't always the answer, either. The answer lies completely in the hands of the father of each home, and if and how he trains his children while they are in his home. It can be done, whatever educational course the family takes. But it takes lots of prayer, work, and consistency.

Most of America's enemies think Americans are spoiled, decadent and out of their mind.

It's no wonder when they see what comes out of Hollywood and the politically correct culture of America.

Immediately after 9-11 many countries were worried the attack would finally wake Americans up and they would once again do what was best for America. Mexicans and the Mexican government was prepared to see the Mexican/American border closed down by troops and the millions of illegal Mexicans in America deported back to Mexico.

Other countries had similar worries but it didn't take long for President Bush to tell the world America was going to remain politicall correct and would not actually return to any sort of America First policies.

I had an aunt and uncle who were both retarded. I doubt that they could read or write, let alone help their kid with his algebra. But they had a son of normal average intelligence. In a situation like this and many others, homeschooling would be either extremely difficult or out of the question. We home schooled our three children, but it was a whole different situation than one such as the home I mentioned above. I would be reluctant to judge too many folks for making the decision not to home school, but I thank God that we had that freedom and the ability to do it. We don't regret it at all.

I believe the proof is in the pudding. Very rarely do you hear stories of homeschooled Christian kids dabbling in drugs, getting pregnant, coming out, or turning 180 degrees away from what their church teaches. Sometimes you'll see them get lazy in their 20s and drift off from church or something, or they’ll go to college and then do all the above things.

The public school system is geared towards indoctrinating one's children against God. To think one can overcome this with Sunday school and a nice youth group activity now and then is ridiculous. Sending one's kids to public school in of itself is not raising them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, it is putting them in place to fail. The availability of wickedness and debauchery is much worse now than when I was a kid, and I'm only 32 years old. I see public school grads all the time come out with an inability to formulate logic, an inability to determine what is right outside of what the law states, an insatiable desire to party and avoid work, rotten attitudes, and a disgusting spirit of entitlement.

The fact is liberals don't reproduce as fast a conservatives because they're too busy aborting all their children or too selfish to have kids. But they don't have to reproduce when they can just recruit our children and indoctrinate them. That is exactly what they do and to say otherwise just proves a person's ignorance on this issue.

The fact is homeschooled kids have a much better chance of succeeding in work, marriage, and in the Lord.

Many times in life we find ourselves in bad situations. Sometimes this is a crummy marriage, a bad job atmosphere, an unfortunate debt situation, the list goes on and on. Most of the time, but not always, these bad situations are a result of our own actions. In the end though, it doesn't matter how you (when I say "you" I'm using the word generally, not specific to any person reading this) got into the situation as much as how you are going to handle the problems that come with it. You can't bail on your marriage; you have to make it work. Look for a different job, and stay close to the Lord while you are. A wicked man borroweth and payeth not again, so you're stuck with your load of debt until you pay it off.

It is a bad situation to have to send one's kids to a public school, and the sooner that person realizes it the sooner they can focus on trying to change the situation or counteract it. You have to treat the time they are at school as exactly what it is: fleshly indoctrination against God. Then when they get home you have to do everything you can to counteract this. Your poor kids are forced onto a vicious battleground between God and the world when they should be learning to love the Lord in the peace that comes with a godly home.

If a person finds themself in this situation it is of the upmost importance that they realize the severity of their predicament. They are in a battle for their little children against the one who is wiser than Daniel and the odds are against them. The moment they forget this or lose sight of it they’ve already lost.

Is it a sin to send your kids to public school? Well, it's certainly not good and doesn't exactly fit under the whole "raise them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord" command. Is it a sin to be married to someone who is not saved? It's certainly not good and doesn't fit with the command to not be yoked with an unbeliever. Is it a sin to have credit card debt? The Bible makes it clear that debt that isn't backed up by something is wrong and we should avoid it. But sometimes we find ourselves in situations and we can't do anything about it but hold on for dear life. At that point it's not how we got there, it's what we're going to do now that matters.

A person should do everything they can to avoid sending their kids to public school, but if they can't they need to recognize the system for what it is and do everything they can to hold onto their kids, or those poor children won’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell. Sorry if that sounds blunt, but it’s the truth.

Christian children in public school clearly violates not only the command to bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord (they get the opposite in public schools) but also violates the commands of separation.