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I need help with an illustration.

I have a friend who doesn't fully see and understand the importance of the Christian Walk. A typical comment is "Salvation is everything."

I'm trying to think of an illustration that illustrates the truth: "Yes, Salvation IS everything, but THEN.... we enter a whole new life and we need to live as He wills."

I'm blank as to how to illustrate this.

The best thing I can come up with is adoption. The "official and lawful adoption" is EVERYTHING... but after that the adopted child has to learn to live as a child in that new family."

The truth is difficult to illustrate as Salvation and Walk are two completely different things but they are closely tied together. Can't have one without the other.

Any Illustration ideas?

Here's a link that may help brother:

http://www.bassfishing.org/thebiblespeaks/Articles/FalseTeachings/OnceSaved/walking.htm

I think I have a better recording of him doing this song if you want it. I know it prOBably tickled his parents to see him on youtube.

I wanted to share some of our church music on this site, but it wouldn't let me post audio mp3, or wma files. I found it was easier to make up a little something with movie maker (instead of converting to .wAV files) and post it on you tube and provide the link. That way, we can share Jesus with the world, instead of just one site. PreacherE, sister Karen and myself love you and sister Kendra and thank you for the example you set before our children. The kids love you too and that's evident in the church. I think Caleb was one of your first to quote all 66 books of the Bible and he was so proud of the certificate you gave him. Remarkable talent for the young man at the age of 5......WOW !!! As you preach to them on Wednesday night, I can see them growing in grace and wisdom,,,,,,,,Joy unspeakable and full of glory !!!!!

5 year old, Caleb Goolsby sings as I accompany him with guitar. He's singing......."God's Little People". His mother and dad are so proud of him. He's such a blessing to our church. PreacherE and his wife Kendrajoy play a big part in Caleb's discipleship. With this talent at such a young age is God given.

Reported on Fox News, O'Reilly, Hannity, and Greta all covered the story of how a New Jersey teacher and principle make students sing praises to Obama, like he's our king. Hannity had a couple of parents and they're outraged because, they're saying that it's almost as if they are replacing Jesus Christ with Obama. The video can be seen at the bottom of the page. Look at it quick, they're removing them as quickly as they can. See the thread below:

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/24/mmm-mmm-mmm-new-details-about-the-dear-leader-song-video/

Oops..............I see holster had it posted (I guess we can say we've got it double covered, like O'Reilly and Hannity, lol)

Juan the Sprinkler:icon_mrgreen:

It is comical, but it is serious........What's our children and grandchildren going to face in the coming days ahead???

Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus !!!!!!!!!!!!

Off topic, but I've noticed some Christian speakers and preachers will say "John the Baptizer" so as to not say "Baptist".

I just googled the NIV and John is called "Baptist". My guess is, that the new revision (coming out in 2010), will probably make a change here. It'll be interesting to see. And they're true in calling him a baptizer, but he's "the Baptist" baptizer.

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Wow Dave, I was thinking the same thing...........you beat me to it !!! Haven't got an NIV to check, could it be that the SBC uses the NIV and John was a non-denominational in that version? Can anyone tell me if John is labeled as a "Baptist" in the NIV ??

What historical record would that be?

Here's the record I have in the good ole King James Bible............and he baptized Jesus:

It wasn't John the "Methodist", nor John the "Holiness", nor John the "Weslyan", nor John the....you get the point, it was:

JOHN THE "BAPTIST".......either you believe God's Word, or you don't !! It's a pretty simple FACT !!! Jesus said himself, There's none greater than John the Baptist. I'm proud to be of the same church as John the BAPTIST.

Does it not prove that this United States of America would sign a pact with the devil himself?

For has not Russia proven beyond a doubt that they cannot be trusted to hold to a promise?

I feel they still would love nothing better than to bury us.

"We will bury you!" Nikita Khrushchev, November 18, 1956.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

This could be very true. Can anyone show in the Revelation where the US is mentioned? I'd like to think the raptured will have taken place long before the collapse of the US. I've heard some preachers say we'll be destroyed with nuclear power and I've heard some say that when the Christians are raptured (the salt taken away from the earth), then the collapse will begin. Any thoughts?

Yes, I received the email reply when I contacted one of the representatives. Now I get a weekly form email telling of the wonderful things they are doing for me and Ohio in Washington.

It's sad to see so few on here have copies of replies from congress. I would have thought many would be more active from the comments I've seen.

I agree with you Dave, that our voice may make a difference on some issues. If congress and senate don't hear from us, they'll just do what they please. When it affects their income (and their perks) by voting them out of office, they may take notice. What really saddens me, is the fact that some here comment and many times complain about things going on in Washington and admit that they don't even vote.

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Please pray for us. I finally found a buyer to buy my trailer and lot. But now because of new city ordinances they will not allow anyone to move it. They will not put a meter box etc. Because no one has lived in it for 12 months. I finally thought I could sell the land and not have to deal with the taxes and hassle of having to check in one the place. I have a meeting with the city council Wed Oct 7th. Please pray that I will get permission to let someone move on to my land..

With God all things are possible. I'm praying God's will be done.
God Bless.............

Rush Limbaugh radio today... (slightly paraphrased)

Caller: Rush, I know Billy Sunday had several campaigns in Cape Girardeau. Do you happen to know how he became a Christian?

Rush: He was born into it just like me. His family was a Christian family so he was a Christian.
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Rush apparently needs to be "educated" on the truths of God's Word.

Romans 5:12 plainly tells us that by one man's sin (Adam's), we all have sin....and death because of that sin. Only one way out.........JESUS BLOOD !!!!!

The following is from JacksonSun.com

Evidently, the Southern Baptists don't know that "Baptists" have existed since NT church times at they claim that the Baptist MVement is only 400 years old. The early Baptists may not have always been described as "those Baptists down the street", but make no mistake, they were Baptist in doctrine.



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Appartently, they don't read Spurgeon, lol !!!

Great, they need to be cut off. I like the vote count, passed in a vote of 83 to 7.

There sure is 7 sure enough scoundrels in the senate and they don't mind everyone knowing it.

I agree somewhat, but there are 10 more votes unaccounted for. Jesus said in Matthew 12:30, He that isn't for me is against me.

Those that didn't vote and were able to vote, just as well be with the 7 that voted. I'm sure there were some that could not attend. Kennedy's seat is probably still vacant and there is another that is very sick. I'd like to see the ones that just straddled the fence. Anyone with a link to see how the Senators voted, could you please post it?

They did fire two people because of that video. Now the prosecutor's office is looking into pressing charges over those who performed the wiretap and video.

It's sad these people were doing the American people a service in exposing what ACORN is all about and our government wants to throw them in jail because of it.

Isaiah 5:20
'Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil;'

Hey PreacherE,

Fox news interviewed the two Americans that exposed this and they were asked if they had any more videos and they responded "it's very possible". I think they have an "ace in the hole", when the liberal media starts coming down on them. The 25 year old man and the 20 year old woman expressed that they were not hired by any organization, they did this for themselves and for all Americans to see the corruptness that is going on in our country. The only media that is really exploiting this is FOX. The other networks are too liberal to let Americans see what really going on with our tax dollars.

Think about this, places such as this is were the democrats are getting their votes. Now that is scary.

Think about this, places such as this is were the democrats are getting their votes. Now that is scary.


What's really scary........is the fact that some people that have the right to vote, and won't use that right !!!

Another example of amateur hour in the Obama administration.

I don't think this will be the last of Obama's blunders. You hit the nail on the head when you said "amatuer hour" !!! Wonder if he'll do something really stupid again, like appoint Gore, lol !!!!

Shhhhh! You'll give someone the idea to register all our cannons and cannonballs!

Ya know holster....being a guy that studies civil war history, most all the cannons DO have serial numbers, lol .......

Well, I don't know what they pay but I guess he could always become a pro wrestler.
Oh.. no he couldn't, they don't acutally hit to they.. :icon_biggrin:

If the school is smart, they'll punish Blount serverely OR they themselves will face sanctions adminstered by the NCAA. My guess is, if they're smart, will revoke his scholarship (provided he has one) and sit him out for the remainder of the season. I'm sure the NCAA has guidelines for this kind of action and my bet is Oregon will probably give Blount a kick out the door. That may be harsh, but will teach a valuable lesson to Blount and whoever may think of doing the same thing. As far as assault charges, I think they have to be taken out by the people that were assaulted. I really don't know the law on that issue.

Hope you enjoy, Aaron Wilburn is a great Christian Comedian.

It's different when they go to a set a corrupted manuscripts which were rejected by those translating the KJV. It doesn't matter how good a person's intentions are in translating the Bible if they use error-ridden manuscripts to translate from then their translation can't help but be error-ridden itself. This is the problem with all the modern versions. They were translated from a corrupted source and therefore are corrupted themselves.

In Christ,
PreacherE

Great Post

I see nOThing wrong with updating translations. Language changes and evolves over time. As language changes over the years, it is necessary to go back and transalate the Bible to reflect the current langugage. The Bible is universal in its message. it speaks to us all. However, it very difficult for it to speak to many people when the translation is antiquated, awkward in modern language, and difficult to understand.

I like the KJV for certain uses. In OTher situations, to read and comprehend and understand, I like the TNIV or the NASB.

Someone said something about changing the Bible by translating it anew. How is that? Now, those "Bibles" that are paraphrases and are nOT interpretations can easily change the meaning. However, when a Board of Greek and Hebrew scholars go to the orignial texts and translate, into modern language, that is no different than what those to made the KJV did centuries ago.

What do you say to cultures who do nOT speak English? Are they to learn English to hear the "true" word of God? or is a translation needed into their own language and tongue? How is that different with modern Engilsh?

It baffles me. If God can work through translators in 1611, surely he can do so today as well. The KJV translation is no more a change in the Bilbe than are modern translations. If you want to be literal, you ahve to learn Greek or Hebrew to read the "true" word of God.

Here are 4 or 5 important differences in the KJB and the NIV. Please go to this webpage and you'll see many, many, many more.


http://www.av1611.org/niv.html

The NIV perverts the deity of Jesus Christ!
I TIMOTHY 3:16: The clearest verse in the Bible proclaiming that Jesus Christ was God. The King James Bible (KJB) reads, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH. . ." The King James says, plainly, "GOD was manifest in the flesh". The NIV reads, "HE appeared in a body". The NIV "twists" "GOD" to "HE". "HE appeared in a body"? So What? Everyone has "appeared in a body"! "He" is a pronoun that refers to a noun or antecedent. There is no antecedent in the context! The statement does NOT make sense! The NIV subtilty (see Genesis 3:1) perverts I TimOThy 3:16 into utter nonsense!

PHILIPPIANS 2:6: The KJB again, clearly declares the deity of Jesus Christ: "Who, being in the form of God, thought it nOT robbery TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD" The NIV reads, "Who, being in very nature God, DID NOT CONSIDER EQUALITY WITH GOD something to be grasped,". The NIV again subtitly perverts the deity of Jesus Christ!


The NIV perverts the virgin birth!
LUKE 2:33: The King James Bible reads, "And JOSEPH and his mOTher marvelled at those things which were spoken of him." The NIV reads, "The CHILD'S FATHER and mOTher marveled at what was said about him." The "CHILD'S FATHER"? Was Joseph Jesus's father? NOT if you believe the virgin birth! NOT if you believe John 3:16, that Jesus Christ was the Son of God! A subtil, "perversion" of the virgin birth. See also Luke 2:43.


The NIV removes the blood of Jesus Christ!
COLOSSIANS 1:14: The KJB reads, "In whom we have redemption THROUGH HIS BLOOD, even the forgiveness of sins:" The NIV reads, "In whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins." The NIV rips out the precious words "THROUGH HIS BLOOD"! Friend, redemption is ONLY "THROUGH HIS BLOOD". Hebrews 9:22, reads, ". . . without shedding of BLOOD is no remission." That old song says, "What can wash away my sins, NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS!"


The NIV perverts John 3:16 into a LIE!
JOHN 3:16: The NIV reads, "For God so loved the world that he gave his ONE AND ONLY SON, that whoever believes in him shall nOT perish but have eternal life" Jesus was NOT "the one and only son" - Adam is called the "son of God" in Luke 3:38, there are "sons of God" in Job 1:6 and Christians are called "sons of God" in Phil 2:15, I John 3:2- but Jesus was the "ONLY BEGOTTEN SON"! By removing the critical word "BEGOTTEN" - The NIV perverts John 3:16 into a LIE! The NIV does the same in John 1:14, 1:18, and 3:18.



God Bless
In Christ,
Ben

I've nOTiced in most Christian bookstores they have a very limited selection of KJBs but a huge selection of the various MVs. On the positive side, these stores will sometimes place KJBs in their bargain bin which means folks can get a good Bible for a low price.

I've always considered the NIV to be one of the worst of the MVs. No doubt, the revised version will be even worse.

The website said that 90 percent of the 1st revision should stay the same as the original version. Imagine that 10 percent of the NIV will have a correction. Goes to show that man made versions will always alter. God true word, the 1611 KJB will always remain the same.

I ran a Christian Bookstore in a town of less that 5000 from 1996 to 1999 and I just couldn't keep it afloat. Went in serious debt to try and make it WITHOUT putting the alternate versions and it's literature on the shelves. Even in our little small town, I'd say over half of the customers that came in wanted a version OTher than the King James. So........I closed the business and just now getting out of debt, ten years later. Thank God for payment plans and the health and strength to work and make money to pay it back.

My hubby will take it if you are still giving it away. He is a model railroad enthusiast and hobbyist.

Sent you a PM with details on the wood.

God Bless
Ben