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    irishman got a reaction from Yabruf in Shame For A Woman To Speak In Church.   
    perhaps the real problem is in desecration the sacred office, which is God's. He appointed men to preach, but He also guards His office, and we are not to desecrate it in any way.
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    irishman got a reaction from BabeinChrist in Do Methodist belives they can lose salvation?   
    A little extreme aren't we CPR?
    How many of those things you listed are an "abomination"? That is a mighty strong word; if God hates something enough to call it abomination, then He still hates it today! I am saying that, sure there are many things that we do not adhere to today, in the law, but we had better realize that an abomination is still abominable to our Lord; He hasn't changed his mind in the N.T. about hating sin, and it didn't pertain only to Israel if it was abominable. Are you justifying the condoning of homosexuality? it sure sounds like it. Even the N. T. deals with "effeminate" practices (1 Cor. 6:9 for one), but implied in several other places. To condone that which God condemns, especially from an ecclesiastical position is...well you figure it out.

    We have too much of this sham love! We think that if we stand against sin, then we are "hate mongers" and that is exactly what the world wants us to think. Today we can hardly speak against homosexuality, lest we be ostracized at the least, and maybe even incarcerated! Love does the right thing; it obeys Gods Word, and aligns itself with it; love is often different from our meager concept of it. It contains chastisement, grace, judgment, instruction, and the whole realm of Christian graces, and yet we only wish to emphasize the "lovey-dovey" side of it. Sure we should help people, but is that all there is to our Christianity? is that what we were created for? The greatest need that man has is Jesus, and everything else is secondary.
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    irishman got a reaction from abbey in Atheist Vs Christian Online Debates Fruitful?   
    I disagree with many of these.  Like Swath said, someone may be following the debate, hanging in the balance, and truth needs to be known.  We ought always to stand for Truth, although others believe they are also standing for Truth, and it seems endless, at least when we stand before God we won't have that to answer to.
     
    1Pe 3:15  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
    1Pe 3:16  Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
     
    Always be ready/willing to stand for what's right.
     
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    irishman got a reaction from Alan in Presenting The Gospel   
    Define "Gospel".

        A clear presentation of the Gospel is important, it ought to contain several important facts;

    1.  The subject should know that “all people are lost” (Rom. 3:10; 3:23)
        This puts them into a group, and does not single them out accusingly.
        They must realize their need for salvation before they will be saved.

    2.  All people need to be saved. (Rom. 6:23a and 5:12))
        I always have them agree that “no one is perfect”.  I have never had anyone disagree since I used that approach.  They have been offended, however, that I insinuated that they were sinners; generally, people do not think themselves to be too bad.
    Just as wages are paid for a days work, sin has earned a wage--death. (spiritual as well as physical) Explain it to them.

    3  All people are saved the same way. (Rom. 6:23b) (Rom 5;12 could be used here too, you decide.)
        Only Jesus can forgive their sin.  (Explain how He died for them, and took their punishment upon Himself.  Then rose again the third day…etc.) Interject Rom 5:8 in there showing them that Christ died specifically for mankind.  

    4.  YOU can be saved today. (Rom. 10:9,10)
        “Whosoever” includes everyone.  Won’t you call upon Jesus to save you today?  

    There are various salvation plans that are effective.  The main thing is telling them the Gospel.  Some people like to use John 3:16, and other verses, but the result is hopefully salvation.

    A word about repentance: it has been long disputed, (and will no doubt continue to be), whether we should encourage them to repent of their sin before they call upon the Lord for salvation, but at the time they decide to trust Christ as their Savior, they have a change of heart, and that is repentance.  The Gospel is what saves men, and repentance may not be considered the Gospel per se.
     
     
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    irishman got a reaction from Invicta in All Preachers Should Have A Conceal Weapon Permit   
    Swath, I understand where you are coming from, I might do the same thing under the circumstances, but that doesn't make it right.  Wretched's last post should cause us all to think when a man (or woman) stands before the Great White Throne, and judged there, will I be the one that put him/her there?  I know, their sin put them there, but If I killed them, do I stand to be reproached for it?  I think so.
     
    It's easy for the proponents of this thought to pull scriptures out of the air, and give gory, and fantastic details of crimes committed, but what is the chances that any of them would happen to any of us?  I figure that if anything happens to me, the Lord allowed it, and if He allows it, somehow I'll take it..  That is the attitude that got me through many "sticky" situations, one of which I told about in another thread (or maybe it was earlier in this one.
     
    By the Way, "rightly dividing" still leaves much to the person to decide what is rightly divided, and what is not.  I know that's a term you like to use.
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    irishman got a reaction from Saintnow in Atheist Vs Christian Online Debates Fruitful?   
    What would Jesus do?  if the Holy Spirit can use something we say, or give us some sort of influence with them, He can convert them.  I can't believe the people that just give up because "there is no hope" of reaching them.  At one time, there was no hope for me either.
     
    Not many will readily admit that you influenced them for good, but they do have something to think about upon their beds, when alone and all is quiet.  It's like giving out tracts, they may act as if they are offended (and some will be, of course), but many have read the tract later, and given their life to the Lord.  I, for one, will argue or debate, whatever you call it, for the glory of God.  If he has given me a bit of insight, it would be wrong for me to ignore it.
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    irishman got a reaction from Saintnow in Atheist Vs Christian Online Debates Fruitful?   
    I disagree with many of these.  Like Swath said, someone may be following the debate, hanging in the balance, and truth needs to be known.  We ought always to stand for Truth, although others believe they are also standing for Truth, and it seems endless, at least when we stand before God we won't have that to answer to.
     
    1Pe 3:15  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
    1Pe 3:16  Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
     
    Always be ready/willing to stand for what's right.
     
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    irishman reacted to John81 in Presenting The Gospel   
    Is it not true we sometimes see this among our own? I know some Baptists today who remind me of the old men I knew as a child (Baptist and Methodist) who always walked around with a scowl on their face, always seemed very stern, never cracked a smile, were quick to speak unkindly because of their judgment another was wrong, rarely said anything uplifting or kind.
     
    Thankfully I don't see near as many of that sort these days, but there are still some. Even so, there are yet many more who are quick to speak in a condemning manner, of which I admit I've been guilty of that before myself.
     
    For whatever reason, we Baptists, especially us Baptist men, tend to leave out the love and grace that should be behind all we say and do.
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    irishman reacted to ThePilgrim in Government Shuts Down, Nation Descends Into Riots, Looting And Cannibalism   
    I do agree that the situation with our government is serious.  However I am not referring to the latest so-called crisis.  The serious problem with government is they have no respect or fear of either man nor God.  They do whatever feels right to them whether it is right in God's eyes or not, and if they don't care what God thinks it is certainly an error to think that they care what you or I think.  
    You are right they do need our prayers that they might begin to fear God and thereby be enabled to do right.  
    With the laws they pass they rob from the people, they cheat the people, they use our children too fight and die in unnecessary wars.  
    What this country needs right now is not another politician or a man on a white horse but a Jeremiah.
     
    God bless,
    Larry
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    irishman reacted to JerryNumbers in All Preachers Should Have A Conceal Weapon Permit   
    The thing is, Marty, In the Christians community if one agrees with you, that applaud you, yet if they disagree with you, they'll show no respect, likely put you down.
     
    I read an article about attending church is more important than football. It seems many professing Christian fathers & mothers totally disagree & called the writer of the article all kinds of different unkindly names. Some saying the coach cares more for their children than the pastor, besides, one father stated with my son playing football that will teach him to be a man, they don't teach that in churches.
     
    Remember, the real he-man will pack a big gun, shoot first, them ask questions, & nearly everyone loves the real he-man, they've learned to love & respect him thanks to Hollywood.
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    irishman got a reaction from swathdiver in All Preachers Should Have A Conceal Weapon Permit   
    Swath, I understand where you are coming from, I might do the same thing under the circumstances, but that doesn't make it right.  Wretched's last post should cause us all to think when a man (or woman) stands before the Great White Throne, and judged there, will I be the one that put him/her there?  I know, their sin put them there, but If I killed them, do I stand to be reproached for it?  I think so.
     
    It's easy for the proponents of this thought to pull scriptures out of the air, and give gory, and fantastic details of crimes committed, but what is the chances that any of them would happen to any of us?  I figure that if anything happens to me, the Lord allowed it, and if He allows it, somehow I'll take it..  That is the attitude that got me through many "sticky" situations, one of which I told about in another thread (or maybe it was earlier in this one.
     
    By the Way, "rightly dividing" still leaves much to the person to decide what is rightly divided, and what is not.  I know that's a term you like to use.
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    irishman got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in All Preachers Should Have A Conceal Weapon Permit   
    Swath, I understand where you are coming from, I might do the same thing under the circumstances, but that doesn't make it right.  Wretched's last post should cause us all to think when a man (or woman) stands before the Great White Throne, and judged there, will I be the one that put him/her there?  I know, their sin put them there, but If I killed them, do I stand to be reproached for it?  I think so.
     
    It's easy for the proponents of this thought to pull scriptures out of the air, and give gory, and fantastic details of crimes committed, but what is the chances that any of them would happen to any of us?  I figure that if anything happens to me, the Lord allowed it, and if He allows it, somehow I'll take it..  That is the attitude that got me through many "sticky" situations, one of which I told about in another thread (or maybe it was earlier in this one.
     
    By the Way, "rightly dividing" still leaves much to the person to decide what is rightly divided, and what is not.  I know that's a term you like to use.
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    irishman reacted to Zed in All Preachers Should Have A Conceal Weapon Permit   
    I wouldn't say that you let someone do horrible things to your family. If someone wanted to harm my sisters or someone close to me, I would try to defend them. I'd just do so without a gun, and not with the intention of killing them.
     
    The thing that rings warning bells for me is the attitude I see towards guns... I find it quite off-putting.
     
    Also, the OP seems to be talking about getting a gun to defend yourself from threats caused by your teaching. That does not seem like an attitude found in the Bible, as others have already pointed out.
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    irishman got a reaction from JerryNumbers in All Preachers Should Have A Conceal Weapon Permit   
    I wonder if any of you knows what it is like to take a human life---under any circumstance?
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    irishman reacted to John81 in All Preachers Should Have A Conceal Weapon Permit   
    Psalm 91, as well as other precious promises from Scripture, makes it clear the Lord is more than able to protect our pastors, churches and ourselves.
     
    I've read enough cases of the Lord protecting His own to know He is faithful and trustworthy. The Lord's angels had no problem dealing with an entire city of homosexuals when they rescued Lot.
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    irishman reacted to DaveW in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 - "falling Away" Or "departure"?   
    Are you more skilled in Languages than the men involved in the production of the KJV?

    If you understand the process used you will know that the passage you refer to was considered by many experts in language before it was settled upon that particular translation of that word in that context.
    Now I am not skilled enough to say they are right or wrong, but even so, one man's consideration of such a thing surely must bow to many men's agreement of expertise.
    And that is without considering God's hand in it, which we must not dismiss.
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    irishman got a reaction from HappyChristian in Atheist Vs Christian Online Debates Fruitful?   
    Too many times we attempt to predict how things we say will be taken.  This thinking can hinder soul winning, and leaves out the power of the Holy Ghost working through His Word. 
     
    I guess there are a lot of differences of opinion on this matter, One thing is for sure, they need to hear the Gospel whether they accept the Bible as true or not.  My sister was one of those who always questioned, and I witnessed to her any way, right after she attempted suicide.
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    irishman got a reaction from Alimantado in Atheist Vs Christian Online Debates Fruitful?   
    I disagree with many of these.  Like Swath said, someone may be following the debate, hanging in the balance, and truth needs to be known.  We ought always to stand for Truth, although others believe they are also standing for Truth, and it seems endless, at least when we stand before God we won't have that to answer to.
     
    1Pe 3:15  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
    1Pe 3:16  Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
     
    Always be ready/willing to stand for what's right.
     
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    irishman got a reaction from swathdiver in Atheist Vs Christian Online Debates Fruitful?   
    I disagree with many of these.  Like Swath said, someone may be following the debate, hanging in the balance, and truth needs to be known.  We ought always to stand for Truth, although others believe they are also standing for Truth, and it seems endless, at least when we stand before God we won't have that to answer to.
     
    1Pe 3:15  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
    1Pe 3:16  Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
     
    Always be ready/willing to stand for what's right.
     
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    irishman got a reaction from wretched in Why Don't Baptist Fast   
    The longest I have fasted was three days, but I did not do it for the right reasons then.  I believe there is an element of sorrow in fasting; the Biblical accounts (Pharisee's excepted) almost always express a great need and a great sorrow.  Esther is a good example. 
     
    Isaiah makes it practical:
     
    Isa 58:6  Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
    Isa 58:7  Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
     
    A word search on fasting can be enlightening.
     
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    irishman got a reaction from ASongOfDegrees in What Does This Mean   
    You mean they have indians in the background running this thing?
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    irishman reacted to Ukulelemike in "god Told Me To Tell You."   
    As far as the issue of someone telling her that "God told me to tell you..." I agree that this would not be scriptural, I believe. Pentacostals, (and even more so their more-words-added-to-make-them-sound-even-holier) like Pentecostal Holiness Primitive Four-Fold Four-Square Four-Eyes For Rent Assembly of Ancient Baptist Charismatics, etc, often do this whole prophet/prophetess thing, where God tells them to tell other people-if you watch how they work, its really standard fortune-telling. In the Bible, God sent prophets to Kings, to High Priests, to people of great office, who made decisions that affected others; generally we don't see the prophets sent to Miriam the goats-herdress to let her know that one of her goat's has a bad udder. Yet that's exactly what we see with these pentecostal prophets: telling people things like, "God has great plans for you! You're going to do well in music for the Lord! Woo-Hoo for you!" And that's a real example, by the way, one given to my niece in her Pentecostal church. Funny thing with that 'prophecy': she was already an excellent musician, serving God with that music.  That's like a prophet coming to me and prophesying that I am going to be fat! (I'm already 340 pounds). 
     
    If one is saved, the Lord is able to communicate the truth to them just fine. Now, that's not to say the Lord can't use someone else, or a pastor preaching a sermon that speak to you, but the Spirit will speak to YOU-the biggest problem, of course, is the listening, which we are wont not to do.
     
    So, as said before, place this in God's hands and wait upon the Lord-stay faithful and active in your church.
     
    BY the way, how old are you and your lady-friend?
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    irishman reacted to heartstrings in Presenting The Gospel   
    "Repent" basically means to "turn from" or "turn against".
     
    Holy Ghost conviction deals with your Sin, God's righteousness, and God's Judgement. In order to get "saved" means there must be something to be "saved" "from". That something is to be burned in Hell forever because of your sin nature. To "believe" on the Lord Jesus Christ is not some flippant mental assent of acknowledging that Jesus is real because the Bible says that the DEVILS believe in God!. No, you have to believe that your own wicked, vile sin condemns you to Hell and that Jesus is your ONLY hope. You, in effect, must "turn against" sin and self TO Jesus. It's not a step one,  step two...process. It's a single exercise of faith.
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    irishman got a reaction from heartstrings in Presenting The Gospel   
    My sentiments exactly.   Getting saved is repentance, if they realize that they are sinners.  Some make it sound as if you have to repent BEFORE you are saved, it happens instantly at the time of salvation.
     
    I did not mean to cause a debate as to what repentance is, but rather for those who are unsure of how to lead someone to the Lord, was the reason I posted it.  Some have a fear of one on one confrontation, and hopefully, with a "plan" they can know what to say, or how to say it.
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    irishman reacted to ASongOfDegrees in Presenting The Gospel   
    If repentance strictly means "a change of heart" and realizing you are a lost sinner in need of Christ than, yes, it is needful for salvation. But as far as I see it repentance in the bible is more than a change of heart. It's forsaking your sins (II Cor. 2:8-11; Matt. 3:8). Repent and believe the gospel. That's two different acts going on there not one and the same. If we are saved by "repenting" then we are adding an element of works to our salvation or more precisely, we are striking a deal with God that we'll stop sinning if he saves us. That won't work. 
     
     
    Again, nobody is saved by the gospel of Acts 2:38. Nobody preaches that verse the way it's written except Campbellites and Charismatics.
     
    We are saved by believing on the gospel of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ not by repenting and believing the gospel of the kingdom.
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