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  1. Shesh! Freedom of religion does not mean the same as freedom from religion. ptwild - I do believe that of the 56 people that signed the Declaration, only 2 were speculated deists (Jefferson and Franklin, though both were also noted as Episcopalians) and only 2 were unitarians (Adams and Paine, though both were also known as congregationalists). Four of 56 is not even close to a majority. Take a look at the early presidents as well, vast majority are Christians. Whether any of them were Christians or not is still widely speculated. There are many quotes from the founding fathers that show, at the very least, they respected and wanted Christianity. This is particularly true in the later years of life or presidency. I agree with HappyChristian, read through their writings (diaries, letters to friends) and you will see the admiration they had for our Savior. Here are just two, you can look up the rest: Ben Franklin: 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach "the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern." Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to a friend in 1816: "I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus." Or so I learned in my very liberal public school AP US History class a couple years ago, and again in my college American Literature class, and again in my college US History course. I could be wrong of course, but that is what I was taught. My AP US History teacher was a loud and proud atheist, so for him to teach this shows something.
  2. Sorry I know this is an old topic... I'm really surprised about all of this honestly. Until we moved and started attending this current church, I had never heard of children not being with parents during the services. In every other church I have ever attended, families sat together. Everyone in the family. I think it's pretty bizarre that there aren't any children in the services, in fact that was the first thing I noticed when I started attending this church. Are we all really that immature and ADHD suffering that we cannot focus on the pastor's message if a couple of babies are crying? Obviously if a baby is just wailing you take it outside, but a short cry here and there is no big deal. If you have a baby or a sickly child who is more likely to make noise, you sit near the aisle and a door. Actually the other day a visitor had their children with them and the baby made 2 short cries and the pastor acted like it was the end of the world and the entire congregation lost their focus. I have a friend who attended a church in SoCal (not sure the name) and she was asked to leave because her baby made a laughing noise at her during a Sunday AM service. We'll see if I get the boot at my current church when I keep my children with me once I become a mother I think it's kind of sad. How do we expect the next generation to be church goers when they are not a part of the church growing up? How can we get mad when they go off to the rock and roll type churches for being more interesting and fun when they spend their youth in "services" that are centered on crafts and playing with other kids?
  3. Thank you, I will have to try this. I just worry so much about not truly being saved because this is just something I do not want to be wrong about. Going to hell scares me, I do not want to be denied entrance into heaven with our Father. Sometimes I get afraid that the rapture happened and I was left behind, I don't find jokes from preachers about this funny at all! Sometimes it seems like I am the only one who is ever worried about this or who ever fears judgment day with our Lord. I do not deserve heaven, though I know none of us ever will, and that is what scares me as well. I don't deserve it and should not be allowed in. I know our Lord and Savior is so loving and merciful though, so much more than I ever will be or understand, and that it is only through the grace of God that any of us will ever be able to enter heaven. Being anxious in nothing and putting my burden upon the Lord is something I have always had trouble with so I guess it makes sense that I would stress and be worried about the most important thing in life. Someday I will learn to completely trust the Lord and learn not on my own understanding for everything in this world. We all have our struggles and temptations and I suppose this is just mine to learn and grow through.
  4. Does anyone ever doubt their salvation? Or do you have any advice for someone who does? I am a huge worrywart, always have been. I tend to dwell on the "what if's" in life and stress over bad things. Obviously if I am going to worry so much over every little thing, something as huge and important as salvation is definitely going to be a worry of mine. I know what the Scripture says and know I am saved, but yet I always have this "what if" and fear in the back of my mind that I might not be. Is this normal or am I just weird?
  5. Oh no, I know they are a cult, no worries about me falling prey to that. You could tell after just a couple sentences! I have just never heard of this group before, or the whole heavenly mother thing at all before and thought it was weird. Unfortunately I was home alone (husband at soccer) and only answered because I thought it WAS my husband coming home (he plays jokes on me sometimes and will ring the doorbell and then hide behind the bush when I answer). Generally I never answer the door if my husband isn't home. I did have a slight conversation with them through the doorway. They started by asking me if I knew about heavenly mother and since I had no idea what they were talking about I wanted to listen to be able to help others. I'm sure I made their day when I thought they were Catholic and talking about Mary . I'm a little worried for others, especially those new in Christ, because apparently this group believes the world is ending in 2012 and they are actively trying to recruit members. I read up on them online and apparently they are popping up churches all over filled with "missionaries" who spend their whole time going around and recruiting people. One of their main things is college campuses because the young people there are more vulnerable. I'm not Asian at all, I think they were just going door to door. One girl was Asian and the other was Mexican I think. The IFB wouldn't be knocking on my door because I go to church there . I agree, I wish more Christians had the zest for soul winning these cults do! We shouldn't be surprised though. Jesus is coming soon and these false religions will just be popping up more and more!
  6. Anyone ever heard of this? I never have. Two people stopped by my house tonight from this group. They have some crazy beliefs that are just things I have never heard of (crazy California!!). They believe in a heavenly mother, Saturday sabbath, baptism and celebration of passover are required for salvation, Heaven is a mirror to earth (there is a heavenly Jerusalem and an earthly one), and we must know the bride of Christ (who is our heavenly mother) to enter heaven. They wanted to have the bishop come over and baptize me in my shower! I've never heard of any of this before, or this group. Anyone?
  7. Interesting. Good to see some people have some sense and don't see him as infallible (like so many of the people I am around out here in California do!).
  8. Yikes!! I wouldn't even know what to do if a snake came flying at me! I would probably be paralyzed with fear and be snake dinner. I'm so glad I don't live in a big snake area!
  9. I don't have any children yet, but I will be homeschooling our children so the only music education they will get is whatever I have them get. My husband plays piano and violin is one of my favorite instruments, so when my children are young they will all choose either piano or violin. Once they reach an older age, maybe like 10 or 12 or something, they can choose a second instrument to learn (flute, trumpet, etc), if they wish. Music is a big part of our family though. My husband took piano lessons from 4-18 and I can play the flute, oboe, piccolo, and clarinet. This could very well change once I actually have children though
  10. We had pork chops and sauerkraut tonight.
  11. BBQ chicken, steamed rice, and green beans
  12. Michael Jackson is before my time really, so I had no knowledge of him before this tragedy happened. What I have heard though, I just feel awful for the poor man. Apparently his father greatly abused him when he was growing up and was treated very poorly when he was famous/trying to get famous/after fame. From what I heard on the news, I wouldn't wish his life on anyone. Though I did hear his mother is very religious and reads her Bible most of the day, so perhaps he is saved and just backslidden as a result of all of the trauma in his life?
  13. I'll be around, though I don't get online often it seems. We don't have anything special planned. All of our family is thousands of miles away so nothing too exciting. John81 - what are patriot cookies?
  14. Congrats! What a beautiful name too.
  15. I have a group of soldiers from Any Soldier that I have "adopted." I send them cards, letters, and care packages from time to time to help show them my support. They are a real humble bunch though and usually say anything is appreciated. Do any of you who personally know soldiers know what is best to send in care packages? They do recommend snacks, personal hygiene, and fun items, but that is still pretty vague. Also since it is so hot out there I'm afraid of what might melt along the way. Anyone have any tips on what soldiers you know wanted in their care packages?? :puzzled:
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