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The belief unto salvation involves a lot more than just belief. SouthernGal touched on repentance. I think that our saving belief involves that very much. It involves simply giving over to God wholly without any regard to self-sufficiency.

I think by the time people are ready to "pray the prayer" they are already redeemed. Of course, there are those who pray just because, but we can't tell the difference. Time may tell.

My ????'s in giving and recieving body parts is this. When the rapture occurs' date=' do your donated body parts go with you? I realize we are given new bodies, don't want to keep this one anyway, but will there suddenly be a liver or lung lying on the ground or an eye or heart suddenly gone? Sure would be funny to see the scientist come up with something to explain this. :puzzled:[/quote']


My same questions. Because these questions are so strong in my mind, I am not an organ donor.

Kita's thread in the lounge got me thinking...so, are you an organ donor?

There are times when it is better for the parents to be in the nursing home because you may be unskilled in taking care of their medical needs.

However, my brother and I have plans on how we are going to care for our parents. Now that he is living on their property (due to circumstances beyond his control) it will be much easier for him to do that. However, if their medical needs become such that he can no longer take adequate care, we will put them in the nursing home.

Well, I don't know if anyone will agree with me or not (and it doesn't matter, 'cause it's what we believe anyway!! :Green ), but the husband is the head of the wife. Period. It would be wonderful if all husbands were godly and never required something of their wives that another person could say was wrong. But that isn't the case. Even many Christian men make bad decisions.

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I completely agree. In another thread, I wrote that a woman can always appeal to higher authorities. Some questioned my stand in spite of the fact that I said if she were being asked to do something wrong she could go to her husband's authorities.

I guess that marriage gives us the right not to testify against our spouses in a court of law, but the Bible never once commands us to allow sin to go. If we allow it to go, we are called (here in the US) accessories to the crime.

A proper appeal from a godly wife can be quite effective.

Check out library books on how to draw and do art.
Check out cookbooks and do home-ec.
Build a bird house for shop.
Take walks for p.e. or science.
Go to your local historical society for history.
Visit your local fire dept. or sheriff's office for social studies.
Start memorizing the dewey decimal system at the library for language arts.
http://www.presidentschallenge.org/home_kids.aspx

As soon as I can transfer money to my paypal account, I will be buying one! I love to hear her sing. (Ah, let's be honest...I just love Mrs. Gonzales!)

I'm glad they make mens pink polo shirts so I can shop in the men's department and avoid all the tightly clinging women's junk they have out there...

Uhoh! Did Kita just open a whole new can of worms?

I don't think it's a sin. A color is that...a color. I don't dress my son in pink. He doesn't like pink. My husband doesn't like pink. However, the men at church who wear pink or purple don't look effeminate.

I have always wanted to swim with leviathan.

When He Was On The Cross, I Was On His Mind by Ronnie Hinson & Mike Payne (not sure what year it was written, but I think it was within the last 10 years)

It's older than that. I heard it first from Southern Gospel group in the late '80's. (I haven't listened to Southern Gospel since about '85 probably.)

Ban Marcus because 1) his avatar is scary, and 2) color is gender neutral. :Green

I really enjoy the Steve Petit team's music. You can find a lot of good music through Majesty Music.

I have a cd that is guitar hymns called "Sun of My Soul" that is nice if you like guitar music (classical style.)

Hey Pij. Welcome to OB.

Here in Oregon homeschoolers only have to be tested in their 3rd' date=' 5th, 8th, and 10th year I believe. I don't know any thing about the cost. I just remember having to take the tests.[/quote']

They can take those tests at any school. I'm not sure if they would have to pay for public school, but we do pay $40 for the test at our local Christian school. There is no additional charge for the service.

For the off-years, I can use a home-testing service. I will use Seton tests for my two that weren't at the required grade level.

However with the guidelines of submission, for a woman it is 1) God, 2) husband/father (father if unmarried) 3) other authorities. For example, last Sunday night my Pastor told me to take our baby to the nursery. If my husband had told me not to, I wouldn't have, and my Pastor would have respected that, because that is what he teaches. There is protection for a woman who does follow the authority structures in her life. In the instance I mentioned, if the Pastor did get upset, it would be my husband who had to deal with the mess that resulted. Not me. If a husband tells his wife to do something that is wrong, God will hold HIM accountable for it.

As far as sound Biblical teaching on submission goes, why is it this statement went unchallenged, except by 1 person, I believe?

There are many verses that point out that the woman's first authority is the man (husband/father.) That does not mean she doesn't answer to God. It does not mean she cannot approach God. However, this statement is incorrect. The head of the woman is the man (be it father or husband.)

If her husband tells her to do something wrong, she has the option of appealing to him. If he refuses to hear, she can go directly to his authority. If she is living the way a Chirstian wife ought, that husband will be likely to hear her appeal. She must go in much prayer and humility though. Not handling the Word of God deceitfully.

You know some good Bible names? Mephibosheth' date=' Ishbosheth, Mahaleel, Methuselah, Naphtuhim, Arphaxad, Nathaneel, Madmannah, and Ur.[/quote']

Now I know what you are up to....go take a nap, Marcus. :bonK:

But what do you do with the kid who always makes the wrong decisions? Lets say you have one kid who, usually once they hit about 14 or so, is always messing up. They understand the right and wrong, but when decision time comes, they make the wrong decision. You can't just not let them do anything can you? By that point they only have a few short years left under your roof... How could you have prevented that? or what do you do now that they're at that point?

I'm not there yet, so I can't say what you do. My guess is that they stay home and do a lot of chores or you and the child do a lot of volunteer work together to get first-hand looks at what happens with consistantly bad decisions.

There comes a point when you have to let them go and make their own mistakes without rescuing. I would say that you don't rescue every time they make a bad decision as they are growing so that they can learn that way among others.

Some don't learn. There's nothing you can do once they are "of age."

But, you trusting them just allows them to be in the situation where they have to use the skills more, it doesn't ensure that they have the skills? If you can't trust them to make the right decision, and so you don't allow them to be in the situation, that still won't help them in the future, just in the present. For example, they never seem to "get it" (or you're just over protective) and so you never allow them as a teenager to go out or do anything, then they go to college or leave at 18 they will mess up their lives usually... So how do you ensure that they have the decision making skills? (hope that all makes sense)

I know they have the decision making skills because they have been busy proving themselves to me. I know they can handle going with friends when I see them making good decisions not knowing I am watching...or not knowing that I will hear about it from someone else who was watching.

When they model their good character at home, then I know they are ready. This is the hardest place because siblings are the hardest to get along with, apparently. :roll

As my children prove to me that they can be trusted, they do earn more trust. As they show me at home that they can behave properly then I can consider allowing them to go to friend's after church.

As they prove they can handle things, then I can allow them more.

As far as protecting, I cannot protect them from everything that comes down the pike. When unexpected things happen, I can always take them to the Bible (...) and teach them the right response based upon God's principles.

If they abuse the trust, they lose some of the privileges they had earned. They then must earn them back.

No, I haven't heard anything of them since the Mann's left our area. (The Mann's are friends of the Travis' and are also going to India.)

Let me see if I can email them and find out if they know anything yet.

also read Transformed by Truth by Joseph M. Tkaach.

If a child's parents, by their religious beliefs, believes in only praying for their sick children, do you think its proper for the government to intervene and take them to a doctor?

If no, please give the reason why you say no and that our goverment should not have that authority.

The case I believe you are referring to is a test case, indeed. However, the number of children in this church that have died due to medically treatable conditions is high. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343148,00.html

God will give parents wisdom as to treatment, but only if we actively seek him. That baby was treatable. The pressure was probably coming from within the church...if they took that baby to the doctor, they would have been exhibiting a lack of faith. Well, all that "faith" did no good since God himself approves of doctors. Luke, the beloved physician...right?

I'm totally undecided on this, but based upon the facts, the church is as culpable as the parents are.

I make mine using left over stir fry and wonton wrappers. Yumminess.

I understand that...but say I am defending a seperation I have....others may call me a "weaker brother"....why?

There is a crowd who believes they may do whatsoever they choose without guilt because they are free from the law. All these extra-Bibleical standards that some of us choose are looked upon as being bound to the law and therefore weak.

They will not accept, no matter what, that we may feel God desires us to use the standards.

God laid upon my heart a particular standard that has allowed me to witness to Muslim women a couple of times. Do I adhere to the standard because I am weak? Not at all. God has particular people that I will minister to that will respond better to me this way. (All things to all men...)

I don't know if that helped or not, but they just think that our binding to certain man-made (seemingly) laws is legalistic because we cannot contain ourselves if we don't.

Well, this was a very trolly thing to say on a Baptist board...

You can not base your ideas on Scripture alone. Scripture is not self interpreting, and God's MORALS stay the same, despite what you yourself want to believe. C'mon, the Bible is such a malleable object. You can do a lot of damage with it, and that's never a good thing.