Lighthouse

"Holiness is surrendering our heart, mind, body, and actions to God and allowing the Holy Spirit to execute His divine Nature in and through us."

I understand what you mean, but because you can't know 100% of the time, there is a danger of misjudging someone, and that is why God can only know 100% of the time where a man's heart is. If we say we can judge a person's motives for sure it is almost as if we are trying to take God's place......not a good position to be in. I do say to my kids sometimes, "...you should never do __________because it would make it appear as if your intentions might be __________, and you wouldn't want someone to think that you are like that. (because there ARE people out there who judge people's motives by their actions, and sometimes quite harshly and without forgiveness) I tell my children, we just need to be careful, call wrongdoing wrong when you see it, but be careful about attacking the person.

Ever been in a situation where your actions, words, and attitudes were mis-judged by someone else? I have. It doesn't always = motives. Sometimes things come out wrong from our mouths, or someone reads something in our body language that truly wasn't there. It happens all the time--just ask any married couple who have ever had a disagreement! :lol

What I meant was that God gave them supernatural revelation in certain instances that He is not or will not give us. We do not and cannot know someone's heart - we can only judge their fruit - ie. actions' date=' words, attitudes.[/quote']


actions, words, attitudes =MOTIVES :frog

If you are referring to Simon the Sorceror' date=' that was Peter that dealt with him - through the Holy Spirit. We are not apostles.[/quote']

yeah...it was Peter.....thank you....

Nope. we are not the apostles. Do we also limit Matt 28:18-20, Acts 1:8 etc?


Do we also exclude "take up thy cross and follow me"?

I mean, we aren't the apostles.....


:hide

I didn't say you couldn't figure out that someone has bad motives at times - however, we do not know their heart, and for the most part we really don't KNOW their motives - we can only guess at then, and many times we will be wrong.

But regardless of yours or my opinion, God's Word forbids of from judging their motives.

1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

Unfortunately this is the only verse I can think of right now. When I get home, I will see if I can find more verses on this theme - or perhaps others might have some too.

There are many verses that teach that God is the only one that knows our hearts.

:puzzled: Where do you get that? We are forbidden from judging motives - we are taught to be discerning (which means to mentally make a difference between things - whether judging behaviour, doctrine, etc.).

Judging Motives= Discernment

Judging Actions- Comparing

Hi I am Nancy or ThyWordHaveIHid from upstate NY. I am happily married with two adult children and one grandchild with another due in May. I have been saved since 1973 and am a member of an IFB KJO church. I found this group after first joining the ladies online Baptist.
I love the Lord and His Word and enjoy memorizing it, hence my nic name. I am also a cancer survivor. I was first diagnosed in 83 and treated and then after 19 years it came back. That was six years ago. I thank the Lord for his strength and healing and how well i am doing despite its reoccurance. :tum Looking forward to getting acquainted.

I've had an epiphany

I am not too sure I know who you are..... :hide

EEK!!! Not you!!

*starts to run away*

*faints*

:lol :frog

Moved to Biblical Issues

Joshua 2:11c...For the LORD your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath.


I. God Is Involved In The Affairs Of


A. Creation (Genesis 1)

1. God Planned It...And It was so

2. God Labored....And It was so. Nothing can be added to it. Nothing taken away from His Work.
Ge 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Ec 3:14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

3. God's Handiwork Leads Men to Repentance And Realization That He Is - Psalms 19:1


4. God Is Without Human Counsel - Job 37-41

5. Divine Order Of Life: Genesis 2-3

a. Male With Female
b. Human Subduing Earth- Not Earth Subduing Man
c. Reproduction
d. Distinction of Simple from Stupid
1) God did not want Man To know sin (Simple)
2) Simple does not mean stupid




B. In Salvation


1. God Planned It All - Acts 13:48

2. God Labored (He did it all) And Rested -Hebrews 10:10

3. God's Handiwork Puzzles Heaven's Heralds - I Peter 1:12

4. God Provides Salvation Without Human Counsel - Rom 9:15

5. Divine Order Of Life

a. Representation Of His Kingdom- Matt 28:19-20, Luke

b. Righteousness Not Attained but Applied - I Cor 1:30

c. Receptacles of The Holy Spirit - John 15, Eph 5

d. Ignorance Retards Responsibility - Eph 5:17

e. Sinfulness Stunts Sanctification - II Peter 1:15-16

f. Disobedience Dictates Direct and Deliberate Disrespect
Titus 3:3-5


(that is all I have for now)
:)

May The Lamb That Was Slain Receive The Reward Of His Suffering.


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What is "Baptist Purgatory"? :puzzled:

Did you go to church in Terre Haute Indiana? That is where I was married to a lady that went to that church.

Please let me know...

BRB

Good day folks!

One of my favorite structures is a lighthouse. It brings hope to those in Darkness, and sometimes even annoys those who want to stay hidden. Of course, the light is the important part. Without the Light, there is NO use of a lighthouse.

My aim and goal in here is to be a good lighthouse....and....well...to be light-hearted. :thumb


BTW, it is all Will's fault...he is the one who invited me on this thing

Do I know you? :puzzled:


:lol

Good day folks!

One of my favorite structures is a lighthouse. It brings hope to those in Darkness, and sometimes even annoys those who want to stay hidden. Of course, the light is the important part. Without the Light, there is NO use of a lighthouse.

My aim and goal in here is to be a good lighthouse....and....well...to be light-hearted. :thumb


BTW, it is all Will's fault...he is the one who invited me on this thing :peek: