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I got Thoughts For Young Men' date=' as well. I haven't read it yet, though. It's in my pile of "to-read" books. :frog[/quote']


I'm sure you will find it interesting. He doesn't beat around the bush, but he's not offensive, either.

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Okay - this is kind of what I thought you were referencing. Yes, everything is of molecular composition...but when we speak of chemicals in meds, they are synthetic. Herbs are molecular, everything is, but they don't do the same thing in the body, and they aren't processed the same. That was my point in refuting them as chemicals. Thanks for the article - interesting stuff!!!

I fail to see the problem here.

"Joshua" is the English rendering of the Hebrew name Yeshua or Yehoshua. "Jesus" is the English transliteration from Greek of the same word and "Jesus - with the Spanish accent mark" is the Spanish rendering of the same name.

When Spanish people name their sons "Jesus" (pronounced hay-zus), they are naming them the equivalent of our "Joshua". We name our sons, "Joshua". Why can't they also??

Well, I don't want to argue, but herbs aren't chemicals. Sorry - if they are, then so are carrots and tomatoes. Chemicals used in the body are laboratory produced. Herbs grow from the ground.

Check it out, and you will find that when people (the ones who work with them both) talk about them, they will say herbs and chemicals, differentiating between the two.

I personally am not enamored of Vision Forum, but I do like some of their stuff. The book Thoughts for the Young Man is great, with no escatology in it. We got the film about Stonewall Jackson from them, and liked it. Haven't ordered anything else, but may someday. I also order from Christian Book Distributors, and don't hold with all of their philosophy either. But they do offer some good books!

Drying tea leaves isn't quite the same process that prescription drugs go through. Prescription drugs are most of the the time synthetic, chemicaly processed. Most natural products are just that - and not chemically processed. That's why they don't last as long (even though prescription meds have a use by date, they actually last longer).

We do use natural meds as much as possible. But we also go to the doctor. There have been times when natural meds wouldn't take care of the illness. And there have been times when prescriptions didn't do the job, so we went to herbs.

There needs to be a balance, without throwing out either natural or prescription. God has given an advancement in technology (man hasn't always used it right) and there has been much learned since the early days of medicine. For instance, even though it is practiced still in some places, we know that bloodletting, putting leeches on to suck blood, is not a healthful thing to do. Did you know that is what actually killed Geo. Washington? He had a respiratory illness, and the doctors "bled" him, weakening further his already weak body. Sometimes medicine that possibly harms one part of the body needs to be ingested to heal another part - like chemo. We have had several people in our church who've had one or another type of cancer. One lady went the natural route, but God took her home. Another lady went the doctor route, but God took her home. Others have followed the doctor, and two were completely healed (God did it, we know, but the meds helped along for a while), others are doing very well.

The AMA has actually adopted some natural remedies and claimed them - nitro-glycerin for heart problems is actually a homeopathic remedy, as is quinine for malaria. Both of those in the wrong doses can be fatal, but medical pros have figured out doses that are helpful.

Caffeine is something that many doctors who treat migraines will give - pure caffeine tablets. Because caffeine opens the blood vessels to the brain. A migraine is caused because the vessels pinch together, so caffeine can help - unless the person already drinks a lot of it...then it would take even more, I guess.

Caffeine is also good if someone is having an asthma attack and no breathalyzer is handy. It opens the bronchial tubes so breathing is a bit easier. Dont' get me wrong, it isn't a replacement, and it won't always work, but it can be a help. I remember one time our son was having an asthma attack (he has excercise asthma...Basic is gonna be fun for him!), but we hadn't had him diagnosed yet, so he had no breathalyzer. I fixed a cup of very strong regular tea, and had him sip it carefully...within about 8 minutes his breathing began to loosen up, and pretty soon he was back to normal. I was thankful that I knew about caffeine opening up the bronchials.

[offtopic]re: acupuncture - my chiropractor isn't licensed to use the actual needles, but he has an air gun type thing - it's acupuncture, but with air. He's used it on me in places, and, although I don't feel much, it has seemed to help. I say seemed, 'cause I don't know if it really did or not, 'cause the problem never goes away 100%.[/offtopic]

Welcome aboard. Glad to have you with us.

HC' date=' I've never heard of Tylenol with aspirin...what is that? Did you mean Tylenol with codeine? or Tylenol with caffeine? I always thought that Tylenol had caffeine. I cannot take any medication with asprin because of my acid reflux and hiatal hernia...I had been taking Celebrex for my arthritis, but since the insurance stopped paying for it, I'm not taking any arthritis meds...will take a couple of Aleve when arthritis pain flares up really bad...that's about once a month.[/quote']

The Tylenol I was referencing was what Jerry mentioned. It is specifically for migraines, and pretty much most of the brand names have it (there are a few generics, too, that work just as well and cost less). The migraine tablets contain aceteminophen, aspirin and caffeine. If I don't have any, I'll usually take a Tylenol and aspirin and drink some caffeine - has the same result. If I take aspirin on a regular basis, it bothers my reflux, too. Also Ibuprophen and anything in that family just tears me up.

Try black cherry juice for your arthritis. I drink that, and it helps keep the swelling down so the pain isn't too bad.

BTW' date=' I still owe Dwayner79 a keyboard because he spilled soda on it.[/quote']

See - even soda damages!!! :lol:

:lol: I do have a story of how coffee is good...I used to drink it often, but my hubby very rarely did. One night, he was driving the car (it was really late, or actually early morning) when it died on him. He went to make a phone call (this was pre-cell phone era) and as he looked back, saw someone looking at the engine. He went back, and the engine was on fire!! The guy had a large cup of coffee, and he poured it on the fire. He got it out...I told my husband later that he'll have to say nice things about coffee drinkers from then on. :lol:

It actually is the caffeine in the coffee that causes my problem. Funny thing is, caffeine in tea doesn't do it as drastically. Iced tea doesn't bother me, but hot tea with caffeine does, unless I have a migraine. Go figure!!

Can you find me one news article (we have HC's one instance) of somebody who got into a car accident or abused a family member' date=' or threw up in the toilet and then passed out, due to drinking a coffee? And then I want to see stats on how many alcohol drinkers have had this happen? And then I want to see stats on how many people have had bad reactions by taking Benadryl or Motrin, or Robitussin or Nyquil.[/quote']

I just have to say this....drinking coffee does make me throw up. It really causes my acid reflux to go into overdrive, and I spend quite a bit of time, um, removing it and anything else from my tummy. Sorry - I know that's not what you meant... :lol:

She posted once that she was resigning from the board. Wish she hadn't.

Hillary Clinton is going to be only about 5 miles from me...is it today? Sometime this week. I dunno. I thought about going to see her but then I thought I had better things to do. Like scrub the toilets.

However with the guidelines of submission, for a woman it is 1) God, 2) husband/father (father if unmarried) 3) other authorities. For example, last Sunday night my Pastor told me to take our baby to the nursery. If my husband had told me not to, I wouldn't have, and my Pastor would have respected that, because that is what he teaches. There is protection for a woman who does follow the authority structures in her life. In the instance I mentioned, if the Pastor did get upset, it would be my husband who had to deal with the mess that resulted. Not me. If a husband tells his wife to do something that is wrong, God will hold HIM accountable for it.

Good post, Kita!! And it is so true. Psalsms, you are right, too - it does cast a bad image of their husband.

Some husbands actually are that controlling, and I feel sorry for the wives who are married to that type of man. But I have seen women who use their husband as a way to get out of what they don't want to do...and then they aren't really that submissive at home. It's just a "spiritual" cover-up.

some people can't eat peanuts and they die from it too. Just saying that just become it effect one person doesn't mean everyone have to avoid it.

yes, there are people who can't tolerate it, but my son can't tolerate eggs, he break out in eczema and scratch like crazy, when he does, it distract him from doing what he is suppose to be doing , but it doesn't mean everyone can't eat eggs.

The only thing that coffee burn people if it spills on their laps while driving.

Has anyone ever hit and killed someone in a car from drinking coffee? I honestly believe I'm drawing a scientific line here' date=' not one of comfort.[/quote']

Well, in reference to the man I mentioned in my previous post, he never killed someone from drinking coffee, but, along with the meanness came other problems. He was moving his family cross-country one time, and they stopped to rest. He passed out while they were resting. It was from the caffeine. Had he been driving (he was driving the moving truck, his wife was in the vehicle behind him) he and two of the kids could have been killed, plus anyone else that might have been involved in the accident that would have resulted if he passed out behind the wheel.

I don't think the effects of caffeine are the same as alcohol, and I do drink some iced tea (and as I said, I use it medicinally) but there are some people who just cannot tolerate it.

No, tired, it's Biblical Christianity that is hated. The pope isn't Biblical, so he isn't hated.

I agree with you to a certain point, but some people cannot tolerate caffeine in the same way they cannot tolerate alcohol. I know a man who gets very mean after one beer. He also gets very mean after a few days of caffeine ingestion - the same kind of meanness that he has with the beer. It takes more caffeine, but it really does happen.

But I agree, it's between the user (not a good term, maybe? ) and God.

I don't drink coffee anymore because it really aggravates my acid reflux. I do drink tea, mostly decaf and herbal. I also get migraines often. When I feel one coming on, I reach for the caffeine. It opens the blood cells to the brain, which helps ease the migraine. It doesn't go away, but bewteen that and Tylenol with aspirin, it eases it enough to function, and I don't have to get stronger meds.

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with it - as long as it's not abused. A pot a day would be too much, imo. Even when I drank coffee, I didn't drink that much. I always knew I had too many cups when I began to shake. Two was my normal limit. I really liked it, and I miss drinking a cup in the morning (even went to decaf and that bothers me!), but the tea is good, too.

Psalms, just so you know, it's a toss up between Carter and Clinton being the worst president ever. Carter wasn't immoral, so that puts Clinton basically over the top.

Yes, Carter should go home. And then he should pack his bags and move to one of the countries that he likes to coddle and pretend are such great places. Put me down as anti-Carter (anyone remember the comparisons of Carter and Christ - both JC's? :gross: )

What would you do if by marrying someone you landed them with an extremely unfortunate combination of names? A Peter Cushing marrying Whoopi Goldberg kind of thing. Poor Peter is right' date=' Jerry![/color']



I know someone whose first child was named Jamie (a daughter) after the dad's name of Jim, which actually wasn't his name. His name was Robert. But everyone called him Jim. That wasn't his middle name either. Go figure! :lol:

We didn't really use any books. Just took the Bible principles that are in there on training, and did it. It helped that our preacher teaches on the family often on Thursday nights. It seemed like often he would teach on just what we needed at the time. It was great.

I did read parts of To Train Up a Child when our son was a little older, and there were a few good ideas, but...

The doctor told me that I had to get Josh on an 8 hour schedule - 8 oz every 4 hours. Well, due to the problems I had with my pregnancy, Joshua had some stomach problems. Not reflux (we both have that now), but he just couldn't hold more than 2 oz at a time without throwing up. So, I would be feeding him 2 oz every 2 hours. But then I noticed that he increased to 3 oz - and only needed to eat every 3 hours. Then it went to 4 oz every 4 hours, and shortly after that, he was able to eat 8 oz. He basically put himself on the schedule that his little body could handle, and we went with it.