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Deuteronomy 30:19 says.....
19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
 
So, why did God(same God) give people the option to "choose" life if He already has made the choice for them?

Deuteronomy 30:19 says.....
19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
 
So, why did God(same God) give people the option to "choose" life if He already has made the choice for them?

Deuteronomy 30:19 says.....
19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
 
So, why did God(same God) give people the option to "choose" life if He already has made the choice for them?

Belief is not defined in the Bible as any kind of work (in fact it is the opposite). It is a response on our part to what God has done and said.

Belief was totally selfish, on my part. I don't see how Calvinists can say our belief is 'taking credit" for salvation; unless they have never really been saved themselves.

Belief was totally selfish, on my part. I don't see how Calvinists can say our belief is 'taking credit" for salvation; unless they have never really been saved themselves.

Belief was totally selfish, on my part. I don't see how Calvinists can say our belief is 'taking credit" for salvation; unless they have never really been saved themselves.

Poor Calvinist...they are forced to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ outside of their will.  However, I willingly do it. 

No sir, they are also responsible to government. An unborn child has the God-given right to life. (remember our little post about "rights"?) An who did God make the protector of that right? And the punisher of evildoers?
Romans 13: 3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
 

The devil hates and wants to destroy the family. Feminism, Femininization of men, masculinization of women, domination by women, open disrespect and vilification of men by society, abuse of women and children, our education system, government and our judicial system are all part of the many ploys and avenues the devil uses to destroy the family. Destroying God's order at the very basic level, in the home, I think is the most devastating. But he even works in churches; not just by the teaching of the wrong things, but failing to teach some of the right things. (1 Peter 4:17)

The devil hates and wants to destroy the family. Feminism, Femininization of men, masculinization of women, domination by women, open disrespect and vilification of men by society, abuse of women and children, our education system, government and our judicial system are all part of the many ploys and avenues the devil uses to destroy the family. Destroying God's order at the very basic level, in the home, I think is the most devastating. But he even works in churches; not just by the teaching of the wrong things, but failing to teach some of the right things. (1 Peter 4:17)

The devil hates and wants to destroy the family. Feminism, Femininization of men, masculinization of women, domination by women, open disrespect and vilification of men by society, abuse of women and children, our education system, government and our judicial system are all part of the many ploys and avenues the devil uses to destroy the family. Destroying God's order at the very basic level, in the home, I think is the most devastating. But he even works in churches; not just by the teaching of the wrong things, but failing to teach some of the right things. (1 Peter 4:17)

The devil hates and wants to destroy the family. Feminism, Femininization of men, masculinization of women, domination by women, open disrespect and vilification of men by society, abuse of women and children, our education system, government and our judicial system are all part of the many ploys and avenues the devil uses to destroy the family. Destroying God's order at the very basic level, in the home, I think is the most devastating. But he even works in churches; not just by the teaching of the wrong things, but failing to teach some of the right things. (1 Peter 4:17)

If she was teaching a class to other women and/children (or teens), that is okay - but not if she was teaching a class with men in it.
This is referring to a political leader specifically, but when women and children lead a country, it is a sign of judgement of God on that nation.
Isaiah 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

What did Trump do on Jan 6th?

If Trump wins the GOP nomination and goes up against Biden, then yes, I'll vote for him

I've heard a pastor say, on more than one occasion. "Nowhere in the Bible does it say that a woman is to love her husband" which was right in the middle of one of these "it's all the man's fault for not leading" sermons. No, it does not directly tell women to love their husbands, that part is true; it tells husbands "love your wives" in more than one passage. . Does that mean that God does not want women to love their husbands then? No. 
Titus2
1But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.  3The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands(mentioned first), to love their children(mentioned second), 5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
I would say that at least 99% of young mothers would say and demonstrate that they "love their children". Many if not most would say "I put my children first". Well, if that young woman is still married, therein lies a devastating problem. Titus 2 verse 4 says that young women must be taught by 'aged women" to love their husbands, to love their children. Why would a young woman who already loves her children need to be taught to do so?  If young wives don't love their husbands first it makes for a less than happy environment for the children, and they suffer because of it. There are some things young ladies need to know that only older women have the qualification and the life experience to teach and some things which would not be received well if taught by any man; even a preacher, or a husband so, the Word of God, in all it's wisdom prescribes Godly "aged women" for this responsibility. A Godly woman can teach young women how to truly love hubby and the kids and how to avoid "tearing their homes down with their hands". So, older ladies can either teach "Feminism 101" or how to have a happy home like the lady in Proverbs 31. There again, this is another example of "leadership". 

Actually, the roots of totalitarianism in our country, go back to before, and as a causation of, the "Civil War".

I would say both. We are to obey Christ and follow his example.

I would simply say -- The husband is the "head" of his wife in the same manner that Christ is the "Head" of the church.  However that might apply for Christ in relation to the church must have a similar application for the husband in relation to his wife.  So, is Christ just a "spiritual leader" for the church; or is Christ the "boss" of the church?

The thing is, giving your whole life.  Is that salvation coming from Jesus...or you? 
Sometimes it is just semantics.. but making Jesus Lord of your life.. in every area takes alot of time. 
Old sin doesn't always straight away stop after salvation.  Because the Holy Spirit is there indwelling.. means you'll be pushed to not go back...but doesn't mean you can't or won't go back. 
Usually the Lordship salvationist will say you can't or won't go back to old sin. It 'back loads' works in to salvation so you still must be doing good works. 

Noah would not be considered "perfect" after the flood. He got drunk and then cursed his own grandson for something the poor kid didn't do. I believe he was a flawed sinner saved by grace just like you and me. It's not speaking of being a "perfect" man for sure. But one can be absolutely perfect in God's prescription for procreation by marrying one woman and gendering all of your children solely and exclusively by that one wife. That is exactly what Noah did. We say we believe that the King James Bible was accurately translated into the English language by the providence of God, down to the last detail. Yet we have to go to the Greek or original Hebrew to determine what it really means only to find it doesn't mean the same from one passage to another(only to be determined by having access to Hebrew or Greek)? Here you have one word "generations" and it means different things in different places? Did the folks back in 1611 have access to a Strong's Concordance or anything else in order to determine what the words meant? The word Generation comes from the same root  that our word "generator" comes from. It basically means to "produce" something: does that mean "dwelling" or "revolution of time". I guess, if a bunch of guys built a house you could say they "generated" the house.
When the Bible says, in Genesis 5 "These are the generations of Adam" it's talking about what Adam "produced". In other words Adam "generated" every single one of the people named in Genesis 5. That's all it means. I can't help what Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek or whatever word the two different instances of "generations" came from; In English "generations" means "generations". And nobody mentioned "sexual activity".  All I'm saying is, just like a "generator" produces electricity, the word "generations" means  "productions" or "things produced"..Actually, I believe Noah "generated" more than just Shem, Ham and Japheth. If you look at the sentence "these are the generations of Noah" is followed by a colon(:). That means that what follows in the sentence is what those "generations" are.
1. Noah was a just man (how? by trusting God in faith)
2. He was perfect in his generations (already explained)
3. And  Noah walked with God (Noah chose to not only trust God, but he chose to walk with God)
All 3 of these things were produced in Noah's life. 
generation
noun as in creation, production Compare Synonyms SynonymsAntonyms Strong matches
bearing breeding formation genesis origination procreation propagation reproduction Weak matches
begetting bringing forth engenderment fructifying multiplying spawning https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/generation

I would say both.
Here's an English definition taken from https://www.etymonline.com/
 head (n.)
Old English heafod "top of the body," also "upper end of a slope," also "chief person, leader, ruler; capital city," from Proto-Germanic *haubid (source also of Old Saxon hobid, Old Norse hofuð, Old Frisian haved, Middle Dutch hovet, Dutch hoofd, Old High German houbit, German Haupt, Gothic haubiþ "head"), from PIE root *kaput- "head."   Physically, your "head" is the part which receives all information from the physical world. It takes in sights, sounds, smells etc. processes the information and makes decisions accordingly. It communicates decisions to the rest of the body and to the physical world and controls what the rest of the body does. But the head loves the rest of the body.  For example, the head loves that hand so much that if it ever, like, accidentally causes one hand to hit the thumb on the other hand with a hammer, the head is immediately going to experience the pain and go into action to assess the damage. The head, though it made a terrible mistake, still loves and cares for that hand/thumb and immediately begins to nurture that thumb/hand as best it can. So, even though the head is the "leader" and the "boss", it needs the rest of the body to survive, and it treats the rest of it's body with the utmost care and attention. The "hand", though intensely loved and appreciated by the head, is still "in subjection" to the head, goes where the head tells it, and obeys all communication from it. I mean, all parts of the body are just as important, but only one part can be "the head". I don't know...was that a good analogy? Thoughts?   Ephesians 5:
20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
   

I know a woman who would fit this category...her husband was a pastor (he's in Glory now). They had several kids (5 or 6, 1 girl the rest boys). I had several chats with one of the sons who himself is a pastor. Most of the children have nothing to do with her because of the way she was while they were growing up...I will not go into detail, but trust me that "odious" and "brawling" are apropos. Anyway...two of the kids (one being the daughter) are serving the Lord and have healthy marriages. The rest do not. This son told me that he learned about marriage from his dad, who he believes taught him - by his actions - just exactly what loving one's wife should be, regardless of how the wife is. I thought that was both the greatest compliment he could give his dad and the saddest thing ever.  
I agree that both parents are responsible. I do think that, because God placed man as the head, he has more of a burden. But I also believe that, once said child hits adulthood it is completely on that child to choose to do right. I've known many through the years who have served the Lord with all their hearts, even though they got NO teaching/encouragement from home to do so - whether from mom or dad.
That said, I think our young people need to have it impressed upon them the seriousness of having one or more eternal beings to nurture. I thank God often for the way my son and dil are raising their son (and will do with others if/as God sends them). Asher will be the one to make the choice whether or not he will submit to God. But he's got great parents to lead the way. (his Grandpa D's no slouch, either heehee)

I have long agreed with and enjoyed listening to Brother Rogers. But I still question men's teaching this subject in this way.  Where is it found in the Bible that "The problem is primarily with the husband"? Chapter and verse please? Did Paul and Peter teach it this way when addressing the family? How about Ephesians 5? I Peter 3?, Colossians 3, Titus 2?
The woman in the above comment says that the husband is not to be the "boss". Well, that's not what the Bible indicates. But a husband shouldn't have to 'assert' his headship/authority because the Bible already says it and the preachers should be preaching it, Instead they have watered it down to calling husbands a "leader". Sounds better that way doesn't it. Many wives/women say "well he's overbearing and unloving". Well, what are they doing about it? Is it right for him to be that way? Is it pleasing to the Lord for him to be that way? Is he obeying the word of God by not being unloving? Certainly not. But they can do something about it. Wives can be the "leader" for awhile until their husband "get's his act together". Actually, they can remain the leader in that respect as the following scripture says. It will not work any other way.
1Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
This verse is basically saying that such a man is disobeying the word of God, but the wife can win him by using her power. Power? Yes, power.
Proverbs 14:1 says  Every wise woman buildeth her house: but the foolish plucketh it down with her hands.
That verse shows that a wife has the power/ability to build her house up and make something strong and beautiful. But she also possesses the power/ability to "pluck  it down" and destroy it.
The Bible teaches that both husband and wife are responsible for their family, both are accountable and it is unbiblical to put the "primary" blame and fault on one gender/spouse or the other. If the wife is being an "odious woman", "foolish" or "brawling woman in a wide house", the husband is still commanded to love her regardless. Same goes for the husband. If he is being unloving, "bitter", and overbearing, the wife is to take up her leadership role by submitting or "being in subjection". to him "in every thing" with  the "meek and quiet spirit". The "feminist" world hates this, but we are not supposed to be like the world. let me also say that the world regularly puts the blame on one gender/spouse too. But we are not supposed to preach it that way, no matter what man says so.