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    *Light* reacted to Alan in Possible solutions to problems   
    So far the suggestions are fine with me and I agree something must be done to prevent more false teachers having a field day in spreading their false teachings on OnLineBaptist. I for one am tired of these false teachers and their deliberate practice of ignoring reasonable questions.
    To me it sounds reasonable to ask for a religious affiliation. As Jordan mentioned, it is very frustrating when you do not know the religious affiliation. Most false teachers will not give background information on purpose in order to deceive. 
    As Rebecca mentioned, a new person should have some restrictions. Such as: Giving a believable testimony of salvation. A limited number of posts, or length of posts, or areas of posting, for a limited amount of time is also a good idea. 
    For me personally, it would be helpful if there was a mechanism for the originator of a study to be able to ask a person to either leave the study, or give restrictions on another persons participation in the study. I understand this would be difficult. But I have had individuals on my studies where I felt they deliberately caused dissension in order to try and make me get irritated, cause me embarrassment in order for me to cease my lessons, or get the study blocked. I fully understand that this is the purview of the moderators. I am only seeking a mechanism to prevent a study being deliberately derailed by a malcontent. 
    As Dave mentioned, the moderators have had a difficult task in balancing the contents of OnLineBaptist and are considering options available in order to make our discussions more amicable and worthy to be read.
    I would like to thank the moderators for the great job here on OnLineBaptist. All of them are worthy of our support and agreement in whatever they decide (if anything).
    Alan
     
     
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    *Light* got a reaction from Alan in Possible solutions to problems   
    I agree with what Jordan said above: That any visiting member should disclose as to what denomination or religious sect that they are associated with. Someone can be part of an organized cult right under our noses and we can be completely oblivious to it. I try not to pass judgment on anyone unless their "fruits" clearly show that they are part of a cult -- or not. The word "cult" in English (of Latin derivation) is not a technical term in which some may understand it as. And it doesn't matter in any case because God deals with everyone as an individual. He can be a member of a Bible believing, Bible teaching group but he will not go to heaven if he does not believe in Jesus Christ. He can be sucked into a cult as a believer, but he will not go to hell if he dies with his faith in Jesus Christ still intact ( a "sign" of a TRUE believer). The issue is Jesus Christ. Believers are saved. Unbelievers are not saved.     
    He that believeth oh him is not condemned: but [he that believeth not is condemned already], because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:18)
    There are only two religions in this world: One by "human" achievement; and the other by "Divine" accomplishment (cf. Jn. 4:10; Rom. 5:15; 6:23; 10:9-10; Eph. 1:7; Col. 1:20-22; 2 Cor. 9:15; Gal. 1:4; 3:13; 1 Pet. 1:18-19). Keeping the commandments out of our love for God, and keeping the commandments to earn Salvation are as far as east is from the west. And all works-based Salvation is putting the cart before the horse -- and pride is usually the culprit behind such false religions. Our Lord's words above are pretty clear, it seems to me. Without a detailed interrogation, we cannot know if a person X who is a nominal Mormon or Jehovah's Witness believes in Jesus Christ or not. I actually met several "Catholics" (although rare, and by "name" ONLY) that truly believed in Salvation by Grace through Faith. One would think that a person of legitimate faith would be repulsed by that works-based religion and flee. But it is also true that people do not necessarily believe the teachings of the groups to which they belong. If a person does not believe that they are saved through faith in Jesus Christ and thus do not believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior, that He is the God-man who died for their sins and that have accepted that Gift by grace through faith alone, then said person is NOT a believer, and only believers are saved. It's not a good sign whenever someone is involved in organized religion and some forms of that (like the one mentioned above) are clearly worse than others from the standpoint of salvation and spiritual growth. But in terms of being a believer or not, that is the fundamental question, and unless the person tells us -- and tells us the truth -- only the Lord can know that.
    God Bless!
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    *Light* reacted to DaveW in Possible solutions to problems   
    This sort of thing has been discussed before and I am 100% certain that the mods/admins appreciate the suggestions.
    I can tell you that the mod group have and are considering things in relation to this issue. I made a suggestion privately and have been told they are.
    Without wanting to discourage people from making suggestions (someone may come up with the perfect solution), I want to ask people to ALSO be aware that our mods are on the job - they are not ignoring it.
    (And I also do not suggest anyone in this thread is being critical of the mods).
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    *Light* reacted to Rebecca in Possible solutions to problems   
    The majority of forums out there, mostly non-religious, have restrictions in place for new comers. For example, a dog forum I'm a part of has a rule that new comers are restricted to the "introduction" thread for their first post, and then are limited to a certain number of posts for a limited time (about two weeks, some are a month) to prevent flooding of the forums, which is an instant suspension if any one does it, new comer or otherwise.  A rabbit forum I''m a part of has restrictions on giving health advice, their rules for what can and can not be posted are clearly outlined. Sometimes people come on and start spouting health advice that is actually harmful to rabbits and shows their lack of education in rabbit health. When asked for credentials, they refuse and just like all false teachers, attack those concerned about the dangerous advice being given. Threads like those are closed immediately and the op either suspended or banned, sometimes before anyone has a chance to post a reply to the op.   I think this site could benefit from restrictions similar to those. 
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    *Light* reacted to Jordan Kurecki in Possible solutions to problems   
    I wasn't sure where to post this, but it seems as of late we have had problems with false teachers coming here on this board to spread their false doctrine. It is rather frustrating that we cannot seem to get people to identify their religious background. 
    I was wondering if it's possible to restrict a person to the "Ask a Baptist a question forum" until they reveal their religious denomination and affiliation? It would be nice if they had to get a mod approval on this before they can post. It's rather frustrating when people come here and refuse to identify themselves.
    Another possibility would just be to add a rule that gives an instant ban to those who refuse to or evade giving their religious affiliation or denomination.
    I am just trying to think of ways we can prevent shady people from coming in here trying to teach. 
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    *Light* reacted to No Nicolaitans in Regarding the "You got my Vote!" poll...   
    Since I was unable to write a response in the "You got my Vote!" poll without actually voting...and I'm not sure that I could have written a response even if I had voted...I've created this new topic instead. 
    In light of the fact that all four of the "You got my Vote!" poll questions revolve around "the commandments/God's commandments/10 Commandments", and in looking at poll question number 4 in particular (since I'm well aware of what Seventh Day Adventists believe the mark of the beast is), I wonder if that poll is actually meant to be a way to put forth Seventh Day Adventist teachings under the guise of an innocent poll.
    Another thing that I find interesting is that the avatar used by EvangAlived is of a similar type used by the last Seventh Day Adventist (that I recall) who joined this forum.
    So, though EvangAlived hasn't responded to Alan's assertion of Seventh Day Adventism, and while EvangAlived has purposely not told (when asked) what his "religious affiliation" is, and since he mentioned reading the works of Walter Veith (mixed in with other writers), I can only assume that EvangAlived is a Seventh Day Adventist...or his system of belief is strongly influenced by Seventh Day Adventism.
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    *Light* got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in Whats for Supper...   
    Some people add a squeeze of citrus fruits to cut through the rich flavor of the dish. I personally think that lemon or lime overwhelms the main ingredient of the meal.
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    *Light* reacted to Jordan Kurecki in Biblical response to KJV attacks   
    I think God would definitely bless a translation from the AV. However, there may be things lost in translation that the language you are translating into could better handle from the Hebrew or Greek. For example, Hebrew pronouns have 2nd person masculine and feminine, which is not translatable into English, in English, it is just the generic thee, thou, you, or ye. However, if you were translating into a language that had 2nd person masculine or singular, you would need to go back to the Hebrew to see how to translate the pronouns. Some languages might not have a generic non-gender specific 2nd person pronoun, therefore it would be basically very difficult to translate accurately only from English. 
    There are some amount of features in Greek and Hebrew that are not translatable into English but could be possibly translated into other language, it just depends on the features of the language you are translating into. I do however think a translation from the AV can still be something that God blesses, but in my opinion, that is not ideal or best. 
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    *Light* got a reaction from Invicta in The Holy Spirit told me that I'm correct!   
    If the Holy Spirit is the One who will guide us into ALL TRUTH (cf. 1 Kgs. 17:24; Jn. 8:32; 16:13; 17:17; cf. 18:37-38; Eph. 1:13-14; 1 Jn. 1:8; 4:6; et al.), then why are there so many doctrinal disagreements within the Body of Christ? I'm sure all of us have heard fellow believers tell us: "I know that I'm correct in my belief because the Holy Spirit told me so!"
    If a person is so arrogant, so lacking in basic humility, that they believe whatever they "feel" is right and that "feeling" is the presence of the Spirit validating their "feeling", then they are far out of the will of God and going their OWN rebellious way (cf. Gen. 6:3; Isa. 63:10; Ps. 106:33; Zech. 7:12; Acts 5:3; 7:51; 1 Cor. 2:14; 1 Thess. 5:19). In fact, the very idea that a person without the gift of teaching and without the preparation necessary to bring that gift to the point of valid functioning can make judgment calls on individual points of doctrine is arrogant in the extreme (cf. 2 Tim. 4:3-4; Matt. 23:1-39; Rom. 16:17-20; 1 Cor. 12:4-11; Gal. 1:6-9; 3:1-29; 6:3; 1 Tim. 6:3-5; 2 Pet. 2:1; 3:16; Rev. 22:18-19). What placed teachers in the Body? Was it not the Spirit (Joel 2:28-30; Lk. 11:11-13; Rom. 1:11; 12:6-8; 1 Cor. 12:1-31; 14:1; Jas. 1:17; 1 Pet. 4:10-11; Eph. 4:11-16). But this (hypothetical) person believes that he/she has no need of any teacher, has no need of any preparation, has no need of study -- just "feeling" something is right is correct (cf. Jer. 17:9).That clearly has nothing to do with the Spirit. If the Spirit did not gift that person, and if that person has not has gifted them and if indeed they were humble enough to follow the Spirit's guidance (cf. Mic. 6:8; 2 Chron. 7:14; Ps. 25:9; Prov. 11:2; Jas. 4:6; 1 Pet. 5:5; et al.), how can said person claim to be superior to those who have been gifted, who have prepared, and who have bothering to diligently study the matter out (2 Tim. 2:15). The fact that said person is not even willing to listen to the well-reasoned argument of someone who has consulted good teaching and who has at least bothered to search it out and test it out in the Bible just goes to show that the individual in question is arrogant and not humble (1 Jn. 4:1-6).
    If a person is arrogant, they are unteachable. If I -- who know nothing about engineering and very little about mathematics -- tell the math professor I will not listen because I "feel" I know that the answer should be, and if I tell the engineer to build the bridge a different way because I "feel" it is better, disaster will result. We may think that is worse because lives may be lost; but teaching and or accepting false doctrine because of an arrogant assumption that "anything I feel is right must be the Holy Spirit" is actually worse: because of course here we are talking about eternal repercussions (Matt. 15:14; 16:6; Acts 20:29; Gal. 1:6-9; 5:9; 2 Pet. 2:1-3; Rom. 16:17; cf. 2 Cor. 11:13-15; 1 Tim. 6:20-21; Heb. 13:9; Jas. 3:1; 2 Pet. 2:2; 2 Jn. 1:7-11; Jude 1:4). The Spirit does not force or bully or act through emotions. The Spirit tells us things in our conscience and prods us to remember actual biblical truths, and the more we are willing to pay close attention, the closer He guides us -- not through shouting or proclaiming or emotional excess, but through His still, small voice. But if we make an idol out of our pride and our emotions and call this "the Spirit", there is no end to the trouble we may bring on ourselves. 
    God Bless!
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    *Light* got a reaction from HappyChristian in Whats for Supper...   
    I had some fish and chips earlier today. The fish was tender and flaky! That was just a snack; I have several meals in my daily "regimen" (breakfast, lunch, dinner, dinner, dinner). The good part about it is that my BMI is around average. Tonight it's watermelon ice cream from Baskin-Robbins. :P :P :P
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    *Light* got a reaction from Alan in If You're New Here Please Read   
    Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. (Romans 16:17-18)
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    *Light* reacted to Alan in Revelation chapter 19-22 Study.   
    Dave,
    I do want to take the time to thank you noticing  the method of comparing scripture with scripture in this study of Revelation chapter 19-22.  The words of Paul the apostle in 2 Timothy 2:15 is the only way of properly interpreting the prophecies of the book of Revelation. "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15
    Throughout this study I have maintained that the prophecy of the Old Testament prophets will be be literally fulfilled as written in the book of Revelation. So, it is our responsibility, if we are to be a good workman, to study, and to rightly divide the scriptures in order to arrive at the correct interpretation as God intended.
    Also, I did link the answer to his questions as you mentioned in order not to cause confusion. I felt, and still am of the persuasion, that nothing new needed to be said that was not already available for study in the previous lessons. Nor did I feel the need to clarify any of my previous statements. As with the  question by Rosie on the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, sometimes there is need for clarification, or further study, and bring out passages in scriptures that I did not bring out earlier or to add some more information to keep the study up-to-date. With Rosie's question, I felt the need to bring out another passage and bring the study up-to-date.
    I just wanted to thank you for your thoughts on why I handled the current situation as I did. I appreciate you very much.
    Alan
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    *Light* reacted to DaveW in Jesus is truly Israel - Mat 2:13-15; Hos 11:1; Jer 31:33; Rom 9:6-8; Heb 2:13; Isa 8:16,18; Jhn 13:33, 16:33, 17:12, 18:9, 21:5; 1 Cor 15:46; 2 Cor 1:20; Gal 6:16; Heb 3:6, 8:8,10; Rev 3:21   
    We all know that in Hosea it is talking in the past tense which means that the primary application of the Hosea passage is to the Nation of Israel.
    Further the passage in Matthew 2 which states it is the fulfillment of  Hosea says:
    15  And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
    Notice something missing from this verse?
    Yep, that's right - the name "Israel" - because that part of the Hosea passage had already been fulfilled and was not relevant.
    So now you misrepresent the Bible as well as members here.
    And you still give us no reason to trust you.
    You claim that I am either too stupid or too unspiritual to understand Dan 9 because I pointed out to you that your idea of AD31 being the end of the obligation and sacrifice is ANTI-BIBLICAL.
    You refuse to answer that instead simply trying to belittle me.
    Why should trust anything you say?
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    *Light* reacted to Jim_Alaska in Jesus is truly Israel - Mat 2:13-15; Hos 11:1; Jer 31:33; Rom 9:6-8; Heb 2:13; Isa 8:16,18; Jhn 13:33, 16:33, 17:12, 18:9, 21:5; 1 Cor 15:46; 2 Cor 1:20; Gal 6:16; Heb 3:6, 8:8,10; Rev 3:21   
    After all we have seen from this person in just a very short time, it never ceases to astound me that people of his ilk that come here always put on the same show. That show is the act of being surprised that we do not allow anyone other than IFB to use the IFB section of these forums.
    They burst on the scene as full blown teachers that are gong to straighten us all out. It is almost like someone walking into a strange church that they are not a member of and expecting to be able to just enter the pulpit and start preaching. Just a bit presumptuous in my mind.
    The Apostle Paul spoke of and warned against just this sort of danger to the truth of God's Word:
     1Tim 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. 
     5  Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: 
     6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; 
     7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. 
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    *Light* got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in Whats for Supper...   
    Salmon or Tuna lightly seared with sesame seed oil and a dash of seasoning is also a quick fix to an easy meal in a hurry. Sometimes less ingredients are better if the ingredients used are fresh and of good quality.
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    *Light* reacted to Alan in 'Apologiz-ing' (1 Pet. 3:15) to Muslims and Islam   
    EvangAlive,
    He is the reference to the debate between Pastor Markle and Covenanter that brother Jordan Kurecki mentioned:
    Brother Jordan is scripturally correct on the teaching, and fulfilment, of Daniel 9:26 & 27
    If you would closely study the debate by Pastor Markle and Covenanter, with an open and sincere heart, you would come to the same conclusion.
    I am of the persuasion that your "super-structure," and "parallels" are mistaken attempts to properly interpret scriptural prophecies. Also, I am of the persuasion that the interpretations of prophesy are those of the Seventh Day Adventist religion, or a religion similar to, the Seventh Day religion. If you told us your religions affiliation it would help all of us understand how to properly interact with you.
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    *Light* got a reaction from Invicta in Whats for Supper...   
    I can see that, if that's your preference to add those ingredients to suit your palate. It's similar to a plain hamburger: in the sense that you can add extra cheese, onions, lettuce, tomatoes, etc. There are times when I add butter to the bolognese sauce to smooth out the flavor; in addition to taking time to mellow out the sauce's flavor by having it simmer for a few hours. And if you want to add an extra kick to it, you can add Sriracha sauce. But yeah . . . I would at times add Parmesan cheese and Italian seasoning to it.
     
     
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    *Light* reacted to Jordan Kurecki in 'Apologiz-ing' (1 Pet. 3:15) to Muslims and Islam   
    I don't believe, and you will find other on the board that agree, that Daniel 9:27 is speaking of Christ causing the sacrifices of the Old Testament system to end. 
    in fact, there was a debate between Pastor Scott Markle and someone else about this very topic a while back, if you search for the debate you can see the results. 
    I believe that the "he" of Daniel 9:27 is NOT the Messiah, but the "prince" referred to back in vs 26, and I base this on the rules of grammar. 
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    *Light* reacted to Rebecca in Bible Quiz   
    You're correct! The scripture verses are: Acts 27:14 - "But not long after there arose against it a tempestuous wind, called Euroclydon." and Acts 27:9-10 - "Now when much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous, because the fast was now already past, Paul admonished them,  And said unto them, Sirs, I perceive that this voyage will be with hurt and much damage, not only of the lading and ship, but also of our lives."
    Omega: How the game is played, is one person asks the question, the person who gets it right first gets a chance to ask a new question, unless they defer to someone else, so it's Rosie's turn, if she wants to ask a question. The question can be worded however, but the answer must be found in a scripture passage. So unfortunately, no matter how good a question is, if the specific answer isn't found in a specific passage of scripture, it doesn't count. However, since you already posted it, if someone wants to take a stab at answering, they are more than welcome! It's an interesting question, one I hadn't thought about before, so I'll have to do some thinking. ? 
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    *Light* got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in Last one to post in this thread wins   
    Someone had asked Joel Osteen as to how long he had been a Christian, and he replied, "I don't know . . . I guess I was always a Christian." His answer should have been, "I guess I was never saved to begin with."
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    *Light* got a reaction from HappyChristian in Whats for Supper...   
    I can't get enough of garlic! Spaghetti with garlic bolognese sauce is where it's at.
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    *Light* reacted to Alan in Making America Great Again   
    The policies of President Trump, and his administration, are helping the environment, particularly the air,  of the United States.
    The New American has a good article concerning the Greenhouse Gas Emissions being lowered in the air here in the United States:  https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/30381-u-s-greenhouse-gas-emissions-down-other-countries-up
    Acting EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler said, "Thanks to President Trump's regulatory reform agenda, the economy is booming, energy production is surging, and we are reducing greenhouse gas emissions from major industrial sources." 
    The Trump Administration is making America great again by taking away needless regulations, needless liberal policies, and needless activist agendas, and in the process making our air more breathable.
     
     
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    *Light* reacted to Alan in Revelation chapter 19-22 Study.   
    Concerning the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
    In Revelation 19:1 we read, "And after these things..." The "after these things" is a reference to the judgment of the Great Whore of Revelation Chapter 18. The Judgment of the Great whore in Revelation Chapter 18 does not end the Tribulation Period, or, more correctly as I previously brought out, the "Time of Jacobs' Trouble," and “the hour of temptation" brought on the the whole earth. The "Time of Jacobs Trouble," or the Tribulation Period, does not end until the conclusion of the war in Revelation 19:11-21.
    In Revelation 19:2-6 the rejoicing is for the judgment on the Great Whore not on the end of the tribulation period.
    Among independent Baptists, most of the errors concerning where the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, and the events of the Tribulation period, comes from the "New IFB" brethren: Pastor Steven Anderson and his disciples. Pastor Steven Anderson teaches, "Well the problem with that is, is that the Bible says that the "marriage of the lamb is come" in Revelation 19, which is AFTER the tribulation AND AFTER God has already poured out all His wrath! And the seven vials of His wrath have been poured out, he has already destroyed Babylon, and now here in chapter 19, he is saying "the marriage of the lamb is come".1 Pastor Anderson is incorrect."The events of Revelation 19:1-10 take place after the judgment of the Great Whore and not the tribulation period.
    Also, Steven Anderson states that here is no reference in the Bible for a wedding feast, except for the, “Philistine Wedding feast,” that lasted seven days: Judges 14:10-20. Pastor Anderson states that this was a “Philistine” wedding feast. It may or may not be a Philistine wedding feast. I will not belabor that point. What I do want to mention is that Anderson states a half-truth in order to deceive. Anderson twists the scripture to say a “wedding feast.” In other words, he will only accept the wording that he wants. Anderson states, “This is a Philistine wedding practice of having a 7 day feast. That's the only place I see it. I don't see it in Leviticus, I don't see it in Numbers, I don't see it in Deuteronomy, I don't see God teaching this - I see the world doing this.”2 Evidently, Pastor Anderson has not read the book of Deuteronomy very closely, or he is deliberately ignoring it in order to deceive.
    Steven Anderson ignores, or does not care for, or does not mention in order to deceive, the command of God as found in Deuteronomy 24:5, “When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.” According to God Almighty, not according to a Jewish tradition, nor a Philistine tradition, when a Jewish male got married he was not to go to war, nor do any other type of business, for one year after the marriage was consummated.
    The Lord Jesus is a Jewish male. The Lord Jesus, after His marriage to His bride the church, was not to go to war nor any other business, for one year. The home of the Bride of Christ is heaven. The Bride of Christ, the church, will stay with the Bride, the Lord Jesus, in heaven, until the events of the war as depicted in Revelation 19:11-21. As with the Jewish men in the Old Testament who followed this commandment in Deuteronomy 24:5, he will “cheer up his wife which he has taken.” The Lord Jesus is going to “take” up His bride, the church, secretly, as depicted in 1 Thessalonians 4:11-18 and “cheer” us up as the world is judged and the nation of Israel is saved.
     
    1Anderson, Steven “Post-Tribulation Moment # 43 Marriage Supper of the Lamb”Faithful Word Baptist Church. Pastor Steven Anderson. N. D. page 1
    2Anderson, Steven “Post-Tribulation Moment # 43 Marriage Supper of the Lamb”Faithful Word Baptist Church. Pastor Steven Anderson. N. D. page 1
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    *Light* reacted to Alan in If You're New Here Please Read   
    Glory Hallelujah!
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    *Light* reacted to Alan in Revelation chapter 19-22 Study.   
    Rosie,
    I had discussed, and answered this question in my, "Revelation chapter 19-22 Study."
    Below is the answer to your question.
    Rosie,
    The Marriage Supper of the Lamb takes place in heaven, after the rapture in Revelation 4, during the 7 Year Tribulation Period as prophesied in Revelation chapter 6-19:10.
    Therefore, the marriage Supper of the Lamb takes place in heaven and not on the earth. And, it takes place during, the 7 Year Tribulation and not after. Immediately after the Marriage Supper of the Lamb the Lord Jesus returns to the earth as described in Revelation 19:11-21
    If you have any further questions, or if I am not clear enough, please ask.
    Alan
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