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JJJ4given

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  1. [quote="BobOwen"] Pastor Mitch, Where in the Bible does sin get a degree with being "public"? Do the ten commandments become "public"? If adultery is a public sin then so is "bearing false witness" and "coveting" and so on and so on? [/quote] The issue here is not about "public" sin. The issue is about qualifications for a certain position of serving in the church. Pastor is a position in the church. God said the "man of one wife". Laid it out pretty simple. The man may be forgiven. But that still doesn't change the qualifications for being a pastor. He doesn't meet the qualifications. This has nothing to do with forgiveness or sin. It has to do with qualifications set forth by God.
  2. [quote="Bakershalfdozen"] [color=#a30000]What is so deadly about the gap theory is that it is a compromise for Christians who try to reconcile what the Bible says with what evolutionists say. Evolution is a false religion; it is not science. The gap theory is 100% wrong. God says He created everything in 6 literal days. Period.[/color] [/quote] You beat me to it. :lol: I type too slow.
  3. [quote="BobOwen"] JJJ, do you read my posts? Here is what I said: Pastor Ron Robinson was my Pastor in Oregon long ago. I heard about the gap theory from him first. Matter of fact I even after the sermon that he mention it he showed it to me. He is a good friend of our family I've watch his kids grow up. I was introduced to him after I heard a message from Pastor Steve Stergeon about the King James Bible. Pastor Ron was Pastored under Lester Roloff not Dr. Ruckman. Did I say I heard the gap theory from Dr. Ruckman? Nope!! Did I say I beleieved the gap theory? Nope!! I've not seen in scripture any thing to say it is not true either. I don't think it is poison to hear from the list of Pastors I listed earlier?? [/quote] I did not say you believed in it. Just said if you do we can discuss it in another post. I am glad to know you do not believe this. What is the gap theory? It is an attempt to unite the worse heresy schemed by man: evolution; with the only written truth we have from God: the Bible. Compromise. Plain and simple. What is devastating about it? The Bible says: Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. According to the gap theory, death is not a result from sin. If millions or billions of years happened between the verses in Genesis, and many animals died during that time and placed fossils, then death is something natural and not a punishment from God. Therefore sin is not the cause of death. Therefore no need for a Saviour. Also, according to gap theory, God didn't mean it when he said, Genesis 1:5 "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. [b]And the evening and the morning were the first day[/b]." Nor did he mean that "And the evening and the morning were the second day." and each other time it says this. So much for God being honest. I don't know how you could get anything else out of, "And the evening and the morning were the first day." Exodus 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. The Jews seemed to understand what he meant pretty well with the sabbath. It didn't mean some abstract thing such as "a long time period". Compromise is how the catholic church got started. Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: You take out the first precepts and all the rest fall out. I wouldn't be surprised if they soon stop teaching salvation by grace through faith (assuming they still do).
  4. Did you know that rat poisoning is 98% corn meal? 98% of it is good stuff. It's just the 2% poison that makes it bad. You may agree with most of the things he says, but if he's teaching the gap theory, that makes him a heretic. If you agree with it and wish to discuss the validity of the theory we can do that in another post. However, most everyone on this board is not deluded by it.
  5. [quote="BobOwen"] Did any of you cut out Psalms 51 yet out of your Bible? Nope. ... [b]King David had a man killed had adultery with a married women and still was king. Why did God allow any more Psalms in the Bible after all his sins. Why did not God take Song of Solomon out too. Why did he let Solomon stay king? God is not us and He his more mercy than all of us combined.[/b] [/quote] Hw can you compare a king to a pastor? God established the role of the pastor. God didn't establish the role of a earthly king (nor approve of it). A king is a dictator. A pastor is a shepherd that is to feed the flock spiritual food. If you believe pastors are kings on earth, do you also believe that Mary is the queen of heaven? Both ideas are ludicrous. Let me quote some verses. Luke 22:25-27 25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. 26 But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve. 27 For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth. Jesus Christ gave us the perfect example of a pastor. He was the pastor of the church at that time. Before he ascended back to heaven he said to Peter: John 21:15-17 15 ¶ So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. 16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. 17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. Now what does forgiveness have anything to do with him being able to stay in the pastorate? It doesn't matter if his wife left him or not, he remarried. Two wrongs don't make a right. He can serve God in a different way but not as a pastor. Besides that, anyone that teaches the gap theory is not teaching this from God's word. His word is plain and simple. 6 days.
  6. [quote="BobOwen"] [b]Have anyone one here ever MET Dr. Ruckman?? Have you ever called him and ask him a question?? Have you ever heard his complete testimony from him in his own words??? Have anyone here had a parent divorce another parent?? Has anyone here read your Bible in your life time over 200 times cover to cover?? Has anyone here tithed over 25%? Has anyone here heard of the following: James Modlish Steve Stergeon Doug Fisher Rick DeMichele Rick Sowell Brad Frisen Paul Huddlestun Ken Blue John Paisley Tim Shanks John Haveman Chuck Schlink Nick Serino Ron Robinson and on and on and on .... Did any of you cut out Psalms 51 yet out of your Bible? Bro Bob Owen[/b] [/quote] Have anyone one here ever MET Dr. Ruckman?? Nope Have you ever called him and ask him a question?? Nope Have you ever heard his complete testimony from him in his own words??? Nope Have anyone here had a parent divorce another parent?? 1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, [b]the husband of one wife[/b], vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Has anyone here read your Bible in your life time over 200 times cover to cover?? Satan knows the scriptures pretty well too. So what does this prove? Has anyone here tithed over 25%? What I tithe is between God and I, but it usually is more then what you are asking. Has anyone here heard of the following: James Modlish Steve Stergeon Doug Fisher Rick DeMichele Rick Sowell Brad Frisen Paul Huddlestun Ken Blue John Paisley Tim Shanks John Haveman Chuck Schlink Nick Serino Ron Robinson and on and on and on .... Nope, are those country singers? Don't listen to that kind of music... Did any of you cut out Psalms 51 yet out of your Bible? Nope. 2 Timothy 3:16 [b]All[/b] scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Bro Bob Owen There is a forum just for polls. :D You might want to try your questions there! Just a thought! :idea:
  7. [quote="nodnarb"] To be honest I have never cared much for Pensecola. It is more of a college with a church then a church with a college. I know that probably makes no sense but to me it means a deal. [/quote] That makes perfect sense and I absolutely agree. Amen to that! It is sad that most Baptist colleges are that way. :(
  8. I think the best thing you could do is pray about it and also look into other alternatives. Make sure you go where God wants you to go. He's got the answers. Now I would say that the KJV is definitely the translation for the english speaking people, I would also say there are other good translations in other languages that are good for that language. (The chinese bible is definitely not, though, as my wife and I have learned!!! Just another off shoot of the revised version. Someone needs to do a good chinese translation from the textus receptus.) There is my 2 cents.
  9. My understanding of this has been that God is the only one in the place to judge people. What is forgiveness? It comes from the idea of someone owing a debt and having that debt removed. We owe a debt for our sins. Only God can administer judgement for what we've done. Therefore, only God(Christ) can remove the debt. And only God can forgive sins from his judgement. So does the Bible teach not holding things against others? Romans 12:17-21 17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. So are we to hold a debt(I am not speaking monetarily) to any man? Clearly this is not what the gospel teaches. God is the only one in the place of judgement so why don't we leave that in God's hands where it belongs and forgive all who trespass us. We don't have to tell them we forgive them to forgive them. If they ask us for forgiveness then we express it but forgiveness is not holding that debt over their head. It's forgetting the wrong they've done and leaving it in God's hands.

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