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  1. I am a remarried widower. (I was married young at 20 to my wife who was 20 and ultimately died at 37) It took 8 yrs to "find" my present wife. We were nearly in your situation, but let me explain. (I tried to connect with her shortly after my first wife died more on a "friendly" basis via an online dating site due to her heritage. She is a Russian orphan adopted in the USA just a couple towns from me as a toddler. I have always had a huge burden for the Russian people) However, she put me off literally for years. We connected a few times over these 7 or 8 yrs. Chatted via text and I was stood up for a coffee meeting at one point. On and on it goes.... yet again in 2016 we connect and ultimately do meet for Chinese. We had spent about 4 days talking a lot prior to our meeting in person. We spoke more in person at the restaurant and I asked her before we met if I could simply hold her hand for a moment before we parted. She spent 2 hours literally telling me all the things that were not going to happen. (not getting married, not having kids etc) I proposed. (yup.... right there. 2 1/2 hours after meeting) Once I held her hand I knew I COULD love her. It wasn't "love at first sight". I wasn't lusting after her, but at that point I truly felt led my God to propose and we had both talked at length about "arranged" (by parents/family) marriages. Back centuries ago when kingdoms rose or fell based on opposing countries marrying off their princes and princesses there was a NEED and a desire to MAKE the marriage work. You knew from the start you had to work at it to "save your country". There is a lot to be said for that level of motivation. Although in your case as I understand it I would see both sets of parents maybe as the "dating site". They brought you two together and you two did the rest. That said: it took her a little over 2 weeks to accept my proposal and did so after Sunday evening church service. (guess it just took God a little longer to communicate with her His wishes). As the story goes: we went on our first "date" March 26 and I proposed. She accepted April 15 and we were married Sept. 05 all in 2016. Just celebrated 3 yrs since we got engaged and now have a 9 month old. We have purposed to love each other. I know you can as well if you go in to marriage knowing you have to WORK to make it work.
  2. I will add this commentary and yes, I know the author is a rather controversial Baptist preacher, but personality aside looking at his argument and the verses on their face alone. I can't see how anyone in good conscience can argue against what he is saying. What's Wrong with Male Gynecologists? by Pastor Steven L Anderson, 2006 1. Is nudity before the opposite gender a sin? 2. Are male obstetricians or gynecologists condoned in the Bible? 3. Are male gynecologists professionals or perverts? “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.” – Ephesians 5:11, 12 “I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.” – Revelation 3:18 “So he that goeth in to his neighbour's wife; whosoever toucheth her shall not be innocent.” – Proverbs 6:29 1. Is nudity before the opposite gender a sin? We are living in a day when the overwhelming majority of Christians and non-Christians alike believe in situational ethics. “The end justifies the means” seems to be the philosophy of today’s independent Baptist churches. God, on the other hand, has always been the God of moral absolutes. Is nudity before the opposite gender a sin? Well if it is, then it must always be a sin, whether at an xxx theater, a swimming pool, or in a doctor’s office. In the Bible, the only nakedness allowable between a man and a woman is between husband and wife. Genesis 2:25 reads, “And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.” Within the confines of marriage nakedness is totally permissible. However, in Leviticus 18, God goes into great detail condemning nakedness between brother and sister, father and daughter, mother and son, aunt and nephew, uncle and niece, grandfather and granddaughter, and the list goes on and on. God also admonishes us repeatedly throughout the Bible to be fully clothed. Nakedness in the Bible is associated with the word “shame.” One of the many examples of this association is found in Isaiah 47:3a, “Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen:” as well as in Revelation 3:18 (above). Exodus 28:42 reads, “And thou shalt make them linen breeches to cover their nakedness; from the loins even unto the thighs they shall reach.” God is commanding here for a man to wear pants or shorts that cover his entire thigh (down to the knee) in order not to be naked. Isaiah 47:2-3 reads, “Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers. Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.” God shows us again here, in this case with a woman, that the thigh being uncovered is considered nakedness by God. Repeatedly throughout the New Testament, God commands women to be clothed in modest apparel because nakedness is undoubtedly a sin. 2. Are male obstetricians or gynecologists condoned in the Bible? Given that nudity before a person of the opposite gender is a sin, why is it a commonly accepted practice among Baptists and others for a woman to be naked and examined by a male doctor? This most disgusting practice is totally unfounded in God’s word. OB/GYN's (doctors of pregnancy and women's health) are considered somehow immune from the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes. If God is so against nudity between members of the opposite gender, why would he allow a man called a doctor to examine a woman’s naked body throughout her pregnancy and up to the birth as if he were somehow immune from sin or God’s laws? Throughout the Bible, women who are pregnant or giving birth are attended by “nurses” or “midwives.” Not one time in God’s word is there mention of a woman being examined nude by a man who is a medical professional. God intended women to assist other women with these types of medical issues. Women have been giving birth to children for the last 6,000 years without the aid of male doctors, and yet Christians today seem to think that a woman must expose herself to a male doctor in the name of medicine. This is totally ridiculous and contrary to God’s word. Many have used the argument, “Oh, they’ve seen it so many times; it no longer affects them.” This is exactly the opposite of reality. Men who look at nudity and pornography for extended periods become more perverted, not less perverted. If the appetite for nudity is fed, the appetite increases not diminishes. Others have used the argument, “Oh, my gynecologist is a nice elderly man. He isn’t thinking any dirty thoughts.” That old man was once a young man who decided to go to school to be an obstetrician/gynecologist in order to examine women in intimate areas. We have strained at the gnat of women giving birth with the help of experienced women or midwives, and we have swallowed the camel of godly, Christian women exposing themselves to a strange man in a doctor’s office. God help us! Independent, fundamental Baptist preachers stand up in pulpits across America and breathe fire about mixed swimming, immodest clothing, nudity on television, dancing, mini-skirts, etc., as they should, but why don’t they have the morals or courage to condemn this practice which is more revealing and more wicked than any of the others mentioned?! 3. Are male gynecologists professionals or perverts? Jeremiah 17:9 reads, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” What kind of a man would go into a profession of examining women’s private parts? Don’t tell me that he is not made of the same sinful flesh that every other man is made of. No man can look at pornographic images and not be affected. This is why God commands us repeatedly to set no wicked thing before our eyes. Because of years and years of looking at and touching scores of women inappropriately, the male gynecologist no doubt has a seared conscience and a perverted mind (I will not go into detail of what goes on in the doctor’s office for decency’s sake, but any woman who has been there knows what I am referring to.). His view of women and the marital bed has certainly been warped by his indecent involvement with countless women. May God help preachers in this generation to make the Bible their authority, not tradition, and call this ungodly practice what it really is – sin. Any doctor that looks upon and touches a woman’s private parts in his office “hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Sir, if you let your wife go to a male gynecologist, you need to get right with God.
  3. I have some strong feelings about this especially in the context of females seeing a male ob/gyn. That said I would even have to think twice about my wife having a GP (general practioner) who is male. I am looking for specific verses or verses that teach the precept of not being naked in front of the opposite sex that is not your spouse.

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