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    LindaR reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in Three Days and Three Nights   
    Actually, the position that the phrase in Matthew 28:1, "as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week," means early Sunday morning (at approximately 6 am) is supported by the parallel passages in the other gospels.  In Matthew 28:1 this time element is employed in order to inform us concerning the time wherein the women went to the tomb.  In parallel with Matthew 28:1, concerning the coming of the women to the tomb, we find the following:
    Mark 16:2 -- "And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun."
    Luke 24:1 -- "Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them."
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    LindaR reacted to Ukulelemike in Easter is the Correct word in Acts 12:4   
    Wait, so you really think Herod was celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ? Seriously? No, Herod celebrated the celebration of Ishtar. It was the rembrance of Tammuz and his death at the hands of a wild boar. This was a well-established Spring celebration, preceeded by 40 days of fasting for Tammuz, which the Catholic church 'christianized' and called Easter. This is where the 40 days of Lent came from, the weeping for Tammuz, one of the abominations of Israel, and why they went into captivity. And another, the worship of the sun which rises in the 'east'. Also, Easter is often held at a different time from the Passover, when Jesus died. So yes Easter WAS the correct word, it just wasn't the celebration of the resurrection of Jesus. Remember it was Herod who chose to wait until after Easter-it was in reference to Herod, not believers. There are no New Testament feasts-they have all been established by the Roman Catholics.   
     
    Okay, having now read the article, let me make what may be a sounder argument.   First, I see the author of the article goes to some length to speak on the word in the Greek. And here I thought most of us disregarded making our primary arguments based on the Greek, since the 'original Greek' doesn't exist, hence we are assuming the Greek we have today in the various Greek New testaments, (most of which were produced by theological liberals and textual critics) is questionable, and we put our faith in the Lord preserving His word in the English. So I am going to go off the Bible, KJV, period, and make my arguments based therein.
     One comment the author makes is that since the word was used by Luke, the only gentile who wrote some of the New Testament, we can assume he was not speaking of Passover, since he didn't keep Passover, not being a Jew. That would be fine, except Luke, the non-Jew, also mentions in the same context "(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)" So if there was no reference here to Passover since he was a Gentile, why is he then mentioning the days of unleavened bread, the seven-day feast the JEWS kept after the day of Passover? So this argument makes no sense.
    He also says that by Luke's writing of Acts, 'Pashcal' WAS 'Easter', ie, the Christian celebration of Jesus' resurrection, is not to be found in scripture. There is not one word anywhere that believers ever kept a special yearly feast of 'The East', to memorialize Jesus' resurrection. Context says that it was Herod who intended, after Easter, to bring Peter forth before the people. Pashcal was a term that referred to both the day of Passover and the feast of unleavened bread-here Easter is used because it was NOT Passover, but something entirely different.
    Next, as I mentioned in my first reply but I will expand upon a bit, one of the great abominable sins the Jews committed that brought about their Babylonian captivity, was  praying to the rising sun (rising in the east, sunrise service? Eze 8:16) and weeping for Tammuz (Eze 8:14). Tammuz was closely associated with Ishtar, his consort. So it would be no surprise if some of these activities continued on.
    One problem, as seen in the article, and as well, in any article you will read on Eostre or Ishtar, or Astarte, some of the idols that have been associated with pagan Easter, is that there is little clear information on any of them. That they are actual ancient worshipped idols is pretty clear, but beyond that, their characteristics, their powers, their associations, their symbols, seem to evolve and change over time and places, to the point that to give any real clear yea or nay on whether any of them were directly or indirectly associated with Easter is difficult, if not impossible to say. Thus to say that Easter is NOT influenced by any of these things is just not possible to say. And, in fact, since Eostre WAS associated with rabbits and eggs, and part of the mythology was that Eostre turned a phoenix into a rabbit to protect it, but still by nature a bird, the phoenix laid brightly colored eggs, somehow makes some connections that are hard to ignore.
    AS for Easter meaning 'east', it is interesting that there is no Greek or Hebrew word that was translated Easter, rather an old Germanic or Saxon word was used instead, for which there is apparently NO Greek version. Luke did not use any form of 'Easter' here-it was replaced with something completely foreign to the word used by Luke. It was used to show that, whatever Herod was celebrating, it had nothing to do with the Passover OR the feast of unleavened bread-if it was referencing some special celebration of Jesus' resurrection, well, he being the Passover Lamb of God, it would have been appropriate for that word to have been used, since Pashcal could refer to the entire 8 days of the two feasts, or the one day of Passover. But since Passover was over, (and thus, the time they would have celebrated Jesus' resurrection) and it was during the time of unleavened bread, it was, I believe, referring to something else, something related to Herod, and again, Herod I doubt would have been celebrating Jesus' resurrection, as I somehow doubt he believed in it.
    Anyways, that's all I got for now. FWIW
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Baptist Church Sign Heresies   
    Think about it, Invicta.  Jesus had to have been buried in the ground sometime between 3:00 PM when He died, and 6:00 PM when the next day began.

    Now, three full days and three full nights would mean that his resurrection would have to take place between 3:00 PM and 6:00 PM.  It would still be daylight.  People would be out and about and noticed the stone rolled away from the tomb long before sunrise.
     
    Here is a chart I did that shows the timeline,...

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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Baptist Church Sign Heresies   
    My chart demonstrates that being dead in the tomb three days and three nights does not necessitate three twenty-four hour periods of time.   Jesus was in the tomb three days of the week and also three nights of the week; albeit, the first day was only a partial day and the last night a partial night.
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Sword of the Lord   
    And yet, you agree with "outside sources" here on OB?  LoL
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    LindaR reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in Rapture and Anti-Christ   
    Brother John,
    Probably??? the difficulty for many is that the specific manner by which the "man of sin" is to be "revealed" is not presented in 2 Thessalonians 2.  Therefore, individuals begin to speculate as to the manner; and in that speculation they find "things" within the current events of the time.  However, I believe that the specific manner for the revelation of the "man of sin" IS provided in Scripture in Daniel 9:27 -- "And he [that is -- "the prince that shall come" from verse 26] shall confirm the covenant with many [among Daniel's people, the children of Israel] for one week."  I believe when that event occurs, then the seven year Tribulation Period (the seventieth week of years) has begun.
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    LindaR reacted to No Nicolaitans in Rapture and Anti-Christ   
    I can't answer your question John. However, my view is this...
    The Bible is clear that false teachers, false doctrine, and people with itching ears will be predominate in the last days; therefore, any "teaching" that gains momentum or popularity is suspect to me. That's not to say they should automatically be discounted or written off...it just gives me reason to pause and weigh it against scripture. 
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    LindaR reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in Rapture and Anti-Christ   
    Brother John,
    I am not certain that I wish to engage with the "this, that and the other end time view" controversy that has been happening in this thread.  However, I did wish to answer you question concerning what my position is, being a pre-tribulational rapturist.  I would hold the following "order" of events:
    1.  The "mystery of iniquity" being "already" at work. (2 Thessalonians 2:7)
    1.  The "falling away." (2 Thessalonians 2:3)
    2.  "He who now letteth [withholdeth]" being "taken out of the way." (2 Thessalonians 2:6-8)  (Note: I believe that this one who withholds must be a singular individual (as per the singular pronoun "he") who is empowered by God to hold back the power of iniquity in the world.  As such, I believe that this One is God the Holy Spirit specifically in His role as the permanent Indweller of the New Testament believers of the New Testament church.  Even so, I believe that this will occur at the "our gathering together" unto Christ through the "catching-up," as per 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18.)  (Note 2: I further believe that when the Holy Spirit is "taken out of the way," He will still be present to convict the hearts of unbelievers on the earth thereafter, but that He will no longer permanently indwell believers thereafter.)
    2.  The revealing of "that man of sin," "the son of perdition." (2 Thessalonians 2:3)  (Note: I believe that this revealing will occur specifically by the act wherein the "man of sin" will "confirm the covenant with many for one week," as per Daniel 9:27.)
    3.  The "day of Christ." (2 Thessalonians 2:2-3)  (Note: I believe that this "day of Christ" is "the great day of His wrath," as per Revelation 6:16-17, that is -- the seven year period of God's judgment upon the whole earth that is commonly called the Tribulation Period.)
    4.  The "man of sin" sitting "in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God," employing "the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish." (2 Thessalonians 2:4, 9-12)  (Note: I believe that this will occur at the mid-point of the seven year Tribulation Period, whereat the "man of sin" will "cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abomination" will "make it desolate," as per Daniel 9:27.)  (Note 2: I further believe that this is time at which the Lord God will send forth the "strong delusion," wherein He will cause the lost of the world to believe the lie of the "man of sin" that he is god, as per 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12.)
    5.  The "man of sin" being consumed and destroyed "with the brightness" of Christ's Second Coming. (2 Thessalonians 2:8)
     
    Concerning this question, I cannot honestly answer it because I myself have not encountered this "shift."
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    LindaR reacted to John81 in The Tithe, for the Church or not?   
    There is really little to discuss in this issue. All tithe commands were given to OT Israel. No tithes are required of Christians. Christians are expected to give without compulsion, cheerfully.
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    LindaR reacted to John Young in The Kingdom   
    The scripture in context is clear on this matter regardless of what fables the ancients may have tried to place upon the text: Angels fallen or otherwise are not "Sons of God":

    Hebrews 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;3 who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4 being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 

    5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 

    8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 they shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 and as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. 

    13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 

    14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

    The scripture in context is clear on this matter. I deal with this topic extensively here in this thread: http://www.onlinebaptist.com/home/topic/23268-the-sons-of-god-are-not-the-angels/#comment-403605
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    LindaR reacted to John81 in Ash Wednesday and such like 'Holy Days'   
    I didn't really know any Catholics until I was in my teens. The only thing I knew about Catholics and Ash Wednesday was that the Friday school lunch was going to be fish sticks for about a month. When I heard and thought about Lent all I could wonder was what that stuff in your belly button had to do with anything
    It's sad how many churches, even Baptist churches, who have come to partake of things like Lent, Advent rituals, and assorted other traditions of the Catholic Church. I notice most give up something they won't really miss much for Lent. Then there are the pious few who give up something "BIG" (in their own minds) and make sure everyone knows (over and over again) of the BIG sacrifice they are making for Lent; like giving up their favorite TV show or some other "seriously BIG thing".
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    LindaR got a reaction from Rebecca in Sister Ronda's Questions and My Answers   
    Just because there is no example anywhere in the Bible where a child got saved doesn't mean that a child is unable to get saved.  There is no "age of reason"/age of accountability mentioned in the Bible either. As far as there being a command "to preach to children the Gospel" (Bolding is mine), that is an inaccurate statement.  According to the Great Commission in Mark's Gospel:  Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.  "Every creature" would include children.  There are some 5 year old children that have a better understanding of the Gospel than some 20 or 30 year old adult.  Who are we to determine if a person will or will not understand the Gospel of salvation?  Therefore a 7 year old is perfectly capable of understanding the Gospel.  Don't underestimate the capability of a child to fully understand the Gospel!

    RE: Jim_Alaska 's post (too long to quote).
    When Did The Church Begin?
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    LindaR got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in Sister Ronda's Questions and My Answers   
    Just because there is no example anywhere in the Bible where a child got saved doesn't mean that a child is unable to get saved.  There is no "age of reason"/age of accountability mentioned in the Bible either. As far as there being a command "to preach to children the Gospel" (Bolding is mine), that is an inaccurate statement.  According to the Great Commission in Mark's Gospel:  Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.  "Every creature" would include children.  There are some 5 year old children that have a better understanding of the Gospel than some 20 or 30 year old adult.  Who are we to determine if a person will or will not understand the Gospel of salvation?  Therefore a 7 year old is perfectly capable of understanding the Gospel.  Don't underestimate the capability of a child to fully understand the Gospel!

    RE: Jim_Alaska 's post (too long to quote).
    When Did The Church Begin?
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    LindaR got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in Jews are White People?!?!?!   
    He can claim to have accepted Jesus Christ as his Savior "until the cows come home".  Making claims to be saved doesn't mean a person is saved.  His "jesus" is "another jesus".  When a person says that God's chosen people (the Jews) are of the devil, that person does not believe on the Jesus of the Bible. 

    Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
    Romans 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
    Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
    Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
    This man is not saved.  His "saviour" is another "jesus".
    2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
    We need to pray for this man's salvation.  He's on his way to a Christ less eternity.
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    LindaR reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in The One, True Gospel & God's Saving Grace   
    The One, True Gospel & God’s Saving Grace
    (Part 4)
     
    Conclusion

    1.  All have committed sinfulness against the Lord God.

    2.  Because all have committed sinfulness, all stand guilty and condemned before the Lord God.

    3.  Because all have committed sinfulness, and thus all stand guilty and condemned, none can merit justification and salvation through any good works.

    4.  Because none can merit justification and salvation through good works, the Lord God has sent forth His only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, as His chosen Savior for all sinners.

    5.  Because none can merit justification and salvation through good works, the Lord God has provided unto all sinners the gift of justification and salvation by His grace (which by definition excludes any merit through good works).

    6.  Because the Lord God has provided the gift of justification and salvation by His grace through the saving work His Son, He only requires repentance and faith from any sinner in order to receive the gift of justification and salvation.

    7.  Even so, any doctrine of the gospel that includes any good works as a requirement for eternal justification and salvation before the Lord God for any group of individuals during any period of time is a false doctrine concerning the one, true gospel and stands in direct contradiction to the grace of God

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    LindaR reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in The One, True Gospel & God's Saving Grace   
    The One, True Gospel & God’s Saving Grace
    (Part 3)
     
    The Divine Method              

    Because it is impossible for any individual to merit justification or salvation through any works, the Lord God has determined to provide eternal justification and salvation unto all by the method of His grace through the saving work of the Lord Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son.  Furthermore, this method of God’s grace by its very definition excludes any merit through works.

    Romans 3:24 – “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.”

    Romans 4:4-5 – “Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.  But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

    Romans 4:14-16 – “For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.  Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

    Romans 5:15-21 – “But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.  And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.  For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.  Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound.  But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: that as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.”

    Romans 11:5-6 – “Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.  And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”

    Galatians 2:21 – “I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”

    Galatians 5:4 – “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.”

    Ephesians 1:3-8 – “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: according as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.  In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence.”

    Ephesians 2:4-9 – “But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) and hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: that in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. cFor by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.”

    2 Timothy 1:9-10 – “Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, but is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.”

    Titus 2:11 – “For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men.”

    Titus 3:4-7 – “But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; that being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”

    Hebrews 2:9 – “But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.”


    The Divine Requirement

    Because the Lord God has determined to provide eternal justification and salvation by His grace, the only requirement from the lost sinner is repentance toward God and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as God the Son and as personal Savior from sin (that is – a repentance of sin before God that leads to a decision of faith in Christ).  Indeed, eternal justification and salvation are through faith specifically in order that they may be by God’s grace.

    Luke 26:46-47 – “And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.”

    John 1:12-13 – “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”

    John 3:14-18 – “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

    John 3:36 – “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

    John 5:24 – “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

    John 6:29 – “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”

    John 6:35 – “And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.”

    John 6:40 – “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

    John 6:47 – “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.”

    John 11:25-26 – “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”

    John 12:46 – “I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.”

    John 20:30-31 – “And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: but these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”

    Acts 10:42-43 – “And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.  To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”

    Acts 16:30-31 – “And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”

    Acts 17:30 – “And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.”

    Acts 20:20-21 – “And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house, testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.”

    Acts 26:19-20 – “Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: but shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.”

    Romans 1:16-17 – “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.  For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”

    Romans 3:21-30 – “But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; to declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.  Where is boasting then?  It is excluded.  By what law?  Of works?  Nay: but by the law of faith.  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.  Is he the God of the Jews only?  Is he not also of the Gentiles?  Yes, of the Gentiles also: seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.”

    Romans 4:5 – “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

    Romans 4:13-17 – “For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.  For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.  Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.”

    Romans 10:1-13 – “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.  For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.  For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.  For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.  For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.  But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)  Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)  But what saith it?  The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.  For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.  For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    1 Corinthians 1:21 – “For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.”

    Galatians 2:15-16 – “We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

    Galatians 3:6-14 – “Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.  Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.  And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.  So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.  For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.  And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.  Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.”

    Galatians 3:22 – “But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.”

    Ephesians 2:8-9 – “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    LindaR reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in The One, True Gospel & God's Saving Grace   
    The One, True Gospel & God’s Saving Grace
    (Part 2)
     
    The Divine Savior

    Genesis 3:15 – “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”

    Genesis 22:18 – “And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”

    Isaiah 45:21-22 – “Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time?  Who hath told it from that time?  Have not I the LORD?  And there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.”

    Isaiah 53:5-12 – “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.  All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.  He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.  He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation?  For he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.  And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.  Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.  He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.  Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.”

    Matthew 1:20-23 – “But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.  And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.  Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

    Luke 2:10-11 – “And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.”

    John 1:12-13 – “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”

    John 1:29 – “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.”

    John 3:14-18 – “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

    John 6:33 – “For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.”

    John 6:35 – “And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.”

    John 6:47-48 – “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.  I am that bread of life.”

    John 6:51 – “I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”

    John 8:12 – “Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”

    John 10:9-11 – “I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.  The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.  I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.”

    John 11:25-26 – “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”

    John 12:46 – “I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.”

    John 14:6 – “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

    John 20:30-31 – “And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: but these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”

    Acts 4:11-12 – “This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

    Romans 3:24-25 – “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.”

    Romans 4:25 – “Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.”

    Romans 5:15-19 – “But not as the offence, so also is the free gift.  For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.  And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.  For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.  Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”

    Romans 8:3 – “For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh.”

    Romans 8:31-34 – “What shall we then say to these things?  If God be for us, who can be against us?  He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?  Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect?  It is God that justifieth.  Who is he that condemneth?  It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.”

    1 Corinthians 15:3-4 – “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.”

    2 Corinthians 5:21 – “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”

    Galatians 3:13-14 – “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.”

    Galatians 4:4-5 – “But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.”

    Ephesians 1:7 – “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace.”

    Ephesians 2:13 – “But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.”

    Colossians 1:14 – “In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins.”

    Colossians 1:19-22 – “For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; and, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.  And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight.”

    1 Timothy 1:15 – “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.”

    Hebrews 7:25-27 – “Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.  For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.”

    Hebrews 9:11-15 – “But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.  For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?  And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.”

    Hebrews 9:24-26 – “For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; for then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.”

    1 Peter 1:18-21 – “Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.”

    1 Peter 2:24 – “Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.”

    1 Peter 3:18 – “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit.”

    1 John 5:11-12 – “And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.  He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.”

    Revelation 1:5-6 – “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.  Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”

    Revelation 5:6-10 – “And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.  And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.  And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.  And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

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    LindaR got a reaction from Ronda in Jews are White People?!?!?!   
    He can claim to have accepted Jesus Christ as his Savior "until the cows come home".  Making claims to be saved doesn't mean a person is saved.  His "jesus" is "another jesus".  When a person says that God's chosen people (the Jews) are of the devil, that person does not believe on the Jesus of the Bible. 

    Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
    Romans 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
    Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
    Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
    This man is not saved.  His "saviour" is another "jesus".
    2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
    We need to pray for this man's salvation.  He's on his way to a Christ less eternity.
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    LindaR reacted to Ronda in Jews are White People?!?!?!   
    There are all kinds of erroneous beliefs out there... and sadly antisemitism rises from many of those errors. It generally stems from a calvinist or replacement theology basis. The devil has always used deceit (he is the father of lies after all). The devil knows that the Jews are the apple of God's eye, he knows that God has future plans for them and for the land of Israel (and very specific in detail), and he (the devil) hates that... he has deceived many throughout the generations into persecuting and murdering the Jewish people. Look what Hitler did... and yet God preserved a remnant of His chosen people for future generations. The same type of antisemitism is again on the rise today (sadly). Iran vows to "wipe Israel off the map" (and yet we know that won't happen), islamists teach their children from the cradle to hate and murder Jews. Now we have many nations who are pushing to further divide (part) the land, and no nation is truly standing with Israel. Just as the Bible foretold! I agree that after the rapture, the tribulation period will occur. It's also known as the time of "Jacob's trouble" (Jer. 30:7), and by the end of this terrifying period of time there will be a remnant of 1/3 of the Jewish people brought through to the end (Zech 13:8-9). 
    We know God's word is true!!! We know that right now blindness IN PART has come to Israel but only until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in (Romans 11:25). (I believe we are living in the last moments of the age of grace and that we will soon be raptured).  We also know that the millennial kingdom will be the future time period (after the time of Jacob's trouble) wherein many of the specific OT prophecy promises will be fulfilled exactly as described. Yet there are people who cannot grasp that concept, even though it's given so clearly in the Bible... there are a even a few here on this forum who wrongly claim Israel's blessings for themselves (yet strangely none of Israel's curses). They would have to omit huge portions of scripture and twist the remaining parts of scripture to arrive at the erroneous conclusion that the church has replaced Israel.  
    As for the "no free will" people... they also have to omit huge portions of scripture to arrive at their conclusion as well. They pick out one verses which they think "proves" their point, but then the have to throw out all of the rest, such as John 3:16 'WHOSOEVER' believeth (will believe)... and Rev. 22:17 'whosoever will'.  If they "take away" free will then they would have to throw those verses out (among many others). 
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    LindaR reacted to John81 in Does God allow alcohol?   
    Some wine is made so "weak" (as far as alcohol content) a person can drink large quantities without becoming drunk. Such wine can also be of "high quality" as far as taste and being palatable is concerned.
    Wine can be made for quality taste. Wine can be made for getting drunk. Some also try to mix the two and make a wine which has quality taste and also a strong alcohol content. All wine is not the same.
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Does God allow alcohol?   
    Yet, your bartender Jesus whipped up a batch of intoxicating wine..  What a sinful Jesus you promote.
     
     
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Does God allow alcohol?   
    Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

    When Jesus was speaking of the new wine (neos oinos)/new bottles, He was not speaking of allowing wine to ferment.  Rather, He was speaking of preserving the wine in its unfermented state... both the wine, and the wine bottle are preserved.

    Old skins had the tendency to crack and tear due to age.  The fact that Jesus did not say old wine was put in bottles shows it was not an aged wine.  Men put freshly pressed grape juice, known as wine in that day, in new bottles to preserve it in its unfermented state.
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    LindaR got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in Does God allow alcohol?   
    We have always finished eating all the grapes we buy.  There are always some over-ripe and rotten (fermented) grapes in the bunch and I just toss them out.
    Yeast is destroyed at about 140-160 degrees F....so the yeast was destroyed before the juice concentrate was put in the freezer.  We were not trying to "ferment" the grapes when we tried to make the wine.  We accomplished that which we set out to do.  Make unfermented wine (or grape juice).  Using seal a meal bags is a far cry from putting the concentrate into old wineskins.  There is no comparison.  If you have never tried to make wine, then how do you know that what I am saying is foolishness?
    Leviticus 10:8 And the LORD spake unto Aaron, saying,
    Leviticus 10:9 Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:
    Leviticus 10:10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;
    Leviticus 10:11 And that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.
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    LindaR reacted to No Nicolaitans in Does God allow alcohol?   
    Well, when I first brought up the verse, all I did was post the verse by itself with nothing else; however, you refused to acknowledge what the verse plainly says. Therefore, I attempted to expound upon the verse for you. That was my only motivation. I have no irons in this fire myself. 
    What I do find interesting is that when someone explains something from scripture (that you do agree with) with exhaustive explanation of scripture and commentary, you "Like" it. Yet that too falls under your definition of man-made doctrine.
    Now, since you are also opposed to the drinking of alcohol and believe that the Bible warns against it, perhaps you can explain the verses from 1 Timothy that you quoted and gave commentary on. Ensure to explain where those verses allow for only the deacons who can control their use of it according to your own previous statements. Looks like all deacons can drink a little to me...whether they can control themselves or not.
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    LindaR got a reaction from Pastor Scott Markle in Does God allow alcohol?   
    If you had read the article from the link I posted you would have your answer.

    4. The making of alcoholic beverages is not a strictly natural process. Years ago I took for granted that if you took the juice of a grape and let it alone, not refrigerating it, it would automatically, in time, turn into alcoholic wine. There are several reasons why this is not true. It takes more than time to make wine. Sometimes people try to defend its use by saying that it must be good because God made it. But, the fact is, God did not make it. Man has learned how to make alcoholic liquors through processes that he has invented. Wine-makers know that one must have the correct amount of water, sugar, and temperature to make wine. Keeping grape juice in a refrigerator would prevent it from fermenting, because the temperature is not right. Likewise, hot, tropical temperature would prevent fermentation.

    In ancient days, before we had refrigeration and vacuum-sealing ability, people learned to preserve the juice of the grape without turning it into alcoholic wine. Many people boiled it down into thick syrup. By doing so, they could preserve it for long periods of time. When they got ready to drink it, they would simply add the water to the consistency desired, in much the same way that we take frozen concentrates and add water. In Bible days, contrary to what many believe, it was not necessary for everyone to drink alcoholic wine as a table beverage.

    I recommend the book entitled Bible Wines and the Laws of Fermentation by William Patton (Challenge Press, Emmaus, PA). More than a hundred years ago, this preacher was the only one in his town who believed in total abstinence. He saw that it was necessary to make an extensive study to see what scripture taught. This book is the result of that labor and is the very best thing I have read on the subject.

    [Editor: Natural processes alone will produce fermentation under certain conditions, but these natural processes, if unaided by man, rapidly move to a vinegar state. The alcoholic beverages industry is very much a man-made thing.]
    http://www.wayoflife.org/database/did_jesus_make_alcoholic_wine.html

    Ron and I tried making our own non-alcoholic wine from fresh seedless red grapes in 2007.  We squeezed the grapes in a juicer and then boiled them.  We then filtered out the "lees" and sealed them in a couple of gallon-sized "seal a meal" bags so they were air tight.  We then froze what we made.  Since alcohol does not freeze, we left those 2 gallon-sized in the freezer for 2 years.  They froze solid which means there was NO alcohol in those freshly squeezed grapes.  When thawed after 2 years, that concentrate was extremely sweet....but there was not a trace of "ferment"/alcohol in either bag.
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