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  1. This article by Dr. Renald E. Showers (Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc.)  is an excerpt from a chapter in his book "Maranatha Our Lord, Come!: A Definitive Study of the Rapture of the Church".  The name of the article is "Behold, The Bridegroom Comes!" - Jewish Marriage  Customs.

    It defines how Jewish Marriage customs relate to the Pre-tribulation rapture "catching away" of the Church/Bride of Christ

  2. BroMatt and OnlineBaptist website administrators/designers:

    I'm posting this on behalf of another poster, Ronda.  Her IP has been locked out of the OnlineBaptist forum for one week, as of Thursday, December 24, 2015.  I sent a message to the website administration notifying them of this problem on Saturday, December 26, 2015.  I sent this notification through the "Contact Us" at the bottom of each forum page.  As of this date, neither Ronda nor I have received a response. 

    Ronda would appreciate if someone would email her and let her know that you are aware of this problem and that you will be working on a resolution.

    Thank you

    LindaR

  3. 1 hour ago, Critical Mass said:

    I guess than God couldn't preserve his words in English. We need a dead language to help us understand. A language that we are at the mercy of mostly unsaved reprobates to give us the meaning of. The majority of lexicons and Greek syntaxes are produced by unbelieving reprobates and liberal theologians who are always changing and/or updating the definitions of the "original languages". Many of them can even agree on the definitions.

    Every bible corrector uses the Greek to change the bible when he doesn't like what it says in English. Every one. And we see it going on in this case to the point where we have the widow turning out to be a selfish rebel. All supported by the Greek.

    You can all give yourselves thumbs up all you want but it's the truth. The primary reason the church is in the mess it is now is because of this. Everyone is a Greek authority changing what the text says plainly in English. Everyone is an expert in dead languages nobody speaks anymore. There are over 360 versions of the bible in English since 1901. I have a list of over 260 English versions since the KJV was translated to 1992. That doesn't include all the paraphrases. There probably has been another hundred since 1992. All because "there is nothing wrong with going to the source to find the meanings of words". No wonder nobody believes the bible anymore.

     

    The Scriptures were written in Koine Greek (NT) and Hebrew (OT)...not in English.   God promised to preserve His Word long before the English language came into existence (Psalms 12:6-7).  The King James Bible is the PRESERVED, inerrant and inspired Word of God in the English language, which was translated from the PRESERVED, inerrant and inspired original Greek and Hebrew, neither of which is a dead language.  Neither does the English "correct" the Greek (or Hebrew), as some teach.  The 360 "perversions" of which you speak were not translated from the same Greek and Hebrew manuscripts as the King James Bible.

    The English language didn't exist until the fifth to the seventh century AD.   English is a West Germanic language that originated from Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Britain in the fifth to seventh centuries by Germanic invaders and settlers from what is now northwest Germany and the Netherlands. (Wikipedia). 

    Quit with the insults already....the more you insult, the more you show your ignorance about Bible translations.

  4. 6 hours ago, Critical Mass said:

    When you don't like what the bible says go to the Greek.

    From what language did the KJV translators translate the Bible into English?  There is nothing wrong with going to the source to find the meanings of words.  It doesn't mean that someone doesn't like what the Bible says when one goes to a Greek dictionary in order to find the meanings of words. 

  5. 14 minutes ago, Pastor Scott Markle said:

    How do you know that this poor widow was not receiving any financial care?  Do you now know how she acquired the monies that she possessed?

    If she was receiving financial care, then why would she be in possession of only two mites? She may have acquired those two mites through begging for alms.  The fact that she was poor shows that she had been reduced to a begging status.  Had she been receiving financial care, it would not have been necessary for her to beg for a living.

  6. 18 hours ago, Critical Mass said:

    Thus, I have said that it didn't matter what the Pharisees were doing with the money Jesus told the disciples to still obey them. Also, I agree the the Pharisees didn't blow all the money on wine and women. Most of it probably did go back into the temple.

    Yes it did matter what the Pharisees did with the money.....and today, it still does matter what modern day Pharisees do with our money.

    Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
    Matthew 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
    Matthew 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
    Matthew 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

    The Bible teaches us to be good stewards of our money.  Do you really believe that Jesus would tell His disciples to give their money to thieves?
    Word of Faith teachers are Pharisaical...would you give your money to them? 

  7. I believe that the apostle Paul is the author of the epistle to the Hebrews based on 2 Peter 3:15:

    2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

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    Excerpts from “The Interpretation of the English Bible” by B. H. Carroll – (15-17) The Book of Hebrews –Author’s Introduction, Part 2

    The case of Paul may be briefly stated thus:

    EXTERNAL EVIDENCE

    The external evidence is cumulative and threefold: scriptural, documentary, and traditional.

    Scriptural. The first scriptural evidence is derived from 2 Peter 3:15: “And account that the long suffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also, according unto the wisdom given to him, wrote unto you.” If this testimony be relevant it is decisive. The argument for its application to the case is substantially this:

    1,  Peter wrote his first letter to elect Jews of the dispersion in five provinces of Asia Minor (1 Peter 1:1).

    2.  His second letter was to the same people (2 Peter 3:1).

    3.  In this second letter he says, “Our beloved brother Paul hath written to you.”

    4.  The particular topic discussed by Peter,  concerning which he alleges agreement with Paul, is the emphatic topic in our letter to the Hebrews, namely, the long suffering of our Lord in delaying his advent, which delay was tempting them to apostatize.

    5.  Peter distinguishes this letter of Paul to the Hebrews from all his other letters.

    6.  The most probable date of Peter’s second letter allows ample time for his knowledge of the letter to the Hebrews. Indeed, Peter’s letter shows evident acquaintance with the group of Paul’s letters written during his first Roman imprisonment, and designedly supplements Paul’s great argument against the Gnostics.

    7.  If our letter to the Hebrews be not the one which Peter attributed to Paul, then Paul’s letter is lost. The only escape from this argument would be proof that Peter himself never wrote the second letter attributed to him, but this would be only a nominal escape, since somebody wrote that letter and the direct testimony as to Paul writing to the Hebrews remains. Whatever may be the merits of this argument as to Peter’s testimony, it is certain that Peter never said, “Our beloved brother Barnabas, or Apollos, or Clement, or Luke, hath written unto you.”

     

     

     

     

  8. 1 hour ago, Critical Mass said:

    The money is still going to the temple. The pilgrimage wasn't just to go there and stuff your face.

    That pilgrimage had nothing to do with the temple.  That particular tithe was a FEAST tithe. The second tithe was eaten before the Lord by the offerers.

    Deuteronomy 12:17 Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:
    Deuteronomy 12:18 But thou must eat them before the LORD thy God in the place which the LORD thy God shall choose, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates: and thou shalt rejoice before the LORD thy God in all that thou puttest thine hands unto.

    Deuteronomy 14:23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
    Deuteronomy 14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
    Deuteronomy 14:25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
    Deuteronomy 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
    Deuteronomy 14:27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
    Deuteronomy 14:28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:
    Deuteronomy 14:29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

  9. 4 hours ago, Critical Mass said:

    If you also lived a great distant from the temple you could give money instead of food.

    Deuteronomy 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
    Deuteronomy 14:23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
    Deuteronomy 14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
    Deuteronomy 14:25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:

    Deuteronomy 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,

    If one lived a great distance away from where "the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name" (Deuteronomy 14:24b), that person could then turn that (tithe) food into money. In order to prevent the tithe from spoiling on the long journey, to the place where God chose, the tither was permitted to sell the tithe for money.  The money was to be used to purchase " whatsoever thy soul lusteth after..."  One could not just bring money (as a tithe) to the temple.  The tithe was to be eaten...it was always food, never money.

  10. Jesus pronounced 8 "woes" (exclamations of grief) or grievances against the scribes and Pharisees in Matthew 23.  In the two accounts of the widow's mites (Mark 12:38-44 and Luke 20:45-47 - Luke 21:1-4), Jesus warned the disciples to "beware of the scribes...." and repeated some of those grievances from Matthew 23 as to why. 

    The entire context of those two accounts of the widow's mites were WARNINGS about the scribes and Pharisees, NOT a COMMENDATION of praise to the widow for giving out of her poverty.  Why was the widow poor in the first place?  Could it be because the corrupt religious system demanded not only her house, but her money?

    Mark 12:38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
    Mark 12:39 And the chief seats in the synagogues, and the uppermost rooms at feasts:
    Mark 12:40 Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.

    Luke 20:45 Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples,
    Luke 20:46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
    Luke 20:47 Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

     

     

  11. 2 minutes ago, Standing Firm In Christ said:

    The crop tithe, whether in part or in whole, was redeemable.  However, verse 33 shows the animal tithe could not be redeemed.

    The animal tithe was not 10%, it was every 10th animal which passed under the rod:
    Leviticus 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
    Leviticus 27:33 He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.

    Animals could not be redeemed.

  12.  

    The Relationship of the Christian to the Law and Grace

    Before the Mosaic Law was instituted at Mt. Sinai, there were people who lived righteous lives in conformity to God's moral absolutes.

    Abel - Hebrews 11:4

    Enoch -  Genesis 5:22, 24; Hebrews 11:5

    Noah - Genesis 6:9; Ezekiel 14:14, 20

    Job - Job 1:8; 2:3; Ezekiel 14:14, 20

    The fact that some people lived righteous lives in conformity to God's moral absolutes before the Mosaic Law was instituted indicates two things:

    People can be related to the eternal, unchangeable, moral absolutes of God without being under the moral aspect of the Mosaic Law; and it is possible to be free from the moral aspect of the Mosaic Law without being lawless.

    Prior to Mount Sinai, God administered His moral absolutes over all mankind in ways other than through the Mosaic Law.  From Mount Sinai to the cross of Jesus Christ, He administered His moral absolutes over Israel through the Mosaic Law.  Since the time of the cross, God has been administering His eternal absolutes over all of mankind in a way which is different from and superior to the Mosaic Law.  The moral absolutes have not changed, but the way of God's  administering those absolutes has changed.  For example, idolatry and adultery have been just as wrong in God's sight since the time of the cross as they were when the Mosaic Law was in effect, but since the cross, God has not required the death penalty for those sins (1 Corinthians 6:9-11) as He did when the Mosaic Law was in effect (Exodus 22:20; Leviticus 20:10).  The new, superior way of God's administering His moral absolutes is called grace.

    Freedom from the moral aspect of the Mosaic Law does not involve freedom from the eternal, unchangeable moral absolutes of God.  It only involves freedom from one way of God's administering His absolutes--namely through the Mosaic Law.  If one is under God's grace, in administering His eternal, unchangeable, moral absolutes, one will not be lawless.

    Although the Mosaic Law had three aspects (civil, ceremonial, and moral), it functioned as an indivisible unit.  Thus, to place oneself under one aspect of the Mosaic Law is to obligate oneself to be under the entire Law.  James declared "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all" (James 2:10).  James was asserting that the breaking of only one part of the Mosaic Law made a person guilty of breaking the entire Law.  The only way this could be true was if the Mosaic Law were an indivisible unit.

    The fact that the Mosaic Law was indivisible by nature has a strong implication concerning the relationship of the Christian to the Mosaic Law.  The implication is that since the Mosaic Law as indivisible by nature, the Christian who places himself under its moral aspect obligates himself to keep every aspect of the Law (the civil, ceremonial and moral). (Galatians 3:10) 

    Source: There Really Is A Difference: A Comparison of Covenant and Dispensational Theology by Renald E. Showers (excerpts from chapter 16, The Relationship of the Christian to Law and Grace, pg. 187-190)

  13. 1 hour ago, John81 said:

    If a person studies Christian giving, as put forth in the New Testament which is for Christian living, it's very clear there is no tithe requirement.

    Tithe commandments were under the Old Testament (Covenant) for Israel. Unless a person believes in replacement theology, that the church has replaced Israel and therefore the commands to Israel apply to the church, there is no basis anywhere in Scripture to command a Christian to tithe.

    Amen Bro John!  :goodpost:

    The Biblical tithe was never money....it was always agricultural and God gave that command to tithe only to the children of Israel (Leviticus 27:30-34; Psalms 147:19-20).  The Levites (sons of Levi) were the only people who were authorized to receive/take the Levitical tithes because they (the sons of Levi) had no inheritance ....the tithe was their inheritance (Numbers 18:20-26).

    So when did God change the Levitical tithe from agricultural to monetary?  Our biblical guideline for giving is grace, not compulsion or coercion.
    2 Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
     

  14. Let's quote the account of the Widow's Mite from Luke's gospel:

    Luke 20:46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
    Luke 20:47 Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

    Luke 21:1 And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury.
    Luke 21:2 And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites.
    Luke 21:3 And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all:
    Luke 21:4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury (husteresis) hath cast in all the living that she had.

    The word "penury" in verse 4 of Chapter 21 is the same Greek word as the word "want" in Mark 12:44--husteresis

    Strong's Greek Dictionary

    5304. υστερησις husteresis

    υστερησις husteresis hoos-ter'-ay-sis

    a falling short, i.e. (specially), penury:—want.

    Webster's 1828 Dictionary [K-Z]

    penury

    PEN'URY, n. L. penuria, from Gr. needy.

    Want of property; indigence; extreme poverty.

    All innocent they were exposed to hardship and penury.

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    The word "want" (husteresis) is also found in Philippians 4:11:
    Philippians 4:11 Not that I speak in respect of want (husteresis): for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
    Therefore, the word "want" in Mark 12:44 does not mean "desire"....nor is there any indication in the text that the widow had a desire to give.

    BTW, the poor widow was not "tithing"....she was giving.  The Biblical tithe was never money.

  15. On 11/11/2015, 10:35:26, Invicta said:

    So how was Abraham saved?  By the law, by circumcision or by faith?

    Genesis 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

    Genesis 15:2 And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?

    Genesis 15:3 And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.

    Genesis 15:4 And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.

    Genesis 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

    Genesis 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
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    Romans 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

    Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

    Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

    God counted Abram’s belief in the LORD for RIGHTEOUSNESS. It really never says that Abraham was saved…but counted as “righteous”.

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    How is the Term Israel

    Used in the New Testament?

    Covenant and reformed theologians believe that New Testament believers, including saved Gentiles, are the true Israel of God. Is it really Biblical to refer to Gentile believers as Israelites? Has God created a “new Israel” that is composed of believing Jews and Gentiles of this present age?

    Let us search the Scriptures to see if these things be so. We will examine the 73 times in the New Testament where the term “Israel” is used. How does the New Testament use this term? Is it ever used of the church in general or saved Gentiles in particular?

    The following article is taken from the book Israelology–the Missing Link in Systematic Theology, by Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum. It is used with his permission.

    CONCLUSION

    For Dispensational Israelology, the conclusion is that the Church is never called, and is not, a “spiritual Israel” or a “new Israel.” The term “Israel” is either used of the nation or the people as a whole, or of the believing remnant within. It is never used of the Church in general or of Gentile believers in particular.

    The Israel of God of Galatians 6:16

     

  16. THE BELIEVER'S RICHES IN CHRIST FROM A TO Z

    Accepted in the beloved (Ephesians 1:6)

    Born of God (1 John 5:1)

    Crucified with Christ (Galatians 2:20)

    Delivered from the power of darkness (Colossians 1:13)

    Enriched in everything in Him (1 Corinthians 1:5)

    Forgiven for Christ's sake (Ephesians 4:32)

    Grounded in love (Ephesians 3:17)

    Hid with Christ (Colossians 3:3)

    Instructed in the way of the Lord (Acts 18:25)

    Justified by His grace (Titus 3:7)

    Kept by the power of God (1 Peter 1:5)

    Led by the Spirit of God (Romans 8:14)

    Made nigh by the Spirit of God (Romans 8:14)

    Nourished in the words of faith (1 Timothy 4:6)

    Ordained to eternal life (Acts 13:48)

    Perfected forever (Hebrews 10:14)

    Quickened together with Christ (Ephesians 2:5)

    Redeemed from the curse of the law (Galatians 3:13)

    Sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise (Ephesians 1:13)

    Translated into the kingdom of His dear Son (Colossians 1:13)

    Unreproveable in His sight (Colossians 1:22)

    Victorious through our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 15:57)

    Washed from our sins in his own blood (Revelation 1:5)

    Yearned over by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:26) 

    Zealous of good works (Titus 2:14)

  17. trapperhoney....check out Dr. Renald E. Showers' book "There Really Is A Difference: A Comparison of Covenant and Dispensational Theology"  Copyright ©1990 by The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc., Bellmawr, NJ 08099  Tenth printing 2006.

    That's the best book I've read on Dispensationalism.  I refer to it quite often.

    I believe it's available on Amazon, The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc. (www.foi.org) and Jewish Awareness Ministries (www.jewishawareness.org).

     

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