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I also agree Samer and yet those people in those type churches do not for the most part see anything wrong with that .

I know first hand about that ,and have seen women get down right angry when they didn't win a trophy .

Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
this is the verse they use I believe that phoster is greek for light but this is the club verse

I think he wants us to keep on posting till Jesus comes ..