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Today many have no conception of Hell, Sheol in the Hebrew, or Hades , Tartarus, and Gehenna in the Greek language. It is a literal place where men are in the process of dying but never succumbing to death, subjected to incessant agony and physical torment. Churches need to unapologetically preach the clear truth about Hell. Christians need to be able to witness about Heaven to others, and plainly delineating about the horror of an authentic place called Hell. All men must come to terms with an actual place called Hell and the hope of eternity with Christ.
The book of Revelation tells us “He has the keys to Hell and death.” Life and death are in the power of His nail torn hands because His sacrificial death for our sins on the cross took away the power of death, giving us the gift of salvation and eternal life.
The following verse proves His deity over time; past, present and future, He is not bound or limited by time as man is. This verse plainly declares there is a literal heaven and likewise, or opposite, a literal hell.
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. (Revelation 1:18)
Hell has been described as being a place that:
· Man will have a memory that will NEVER fail.
· It is a place that EVERY request will be denied.

· It is a place of HATRED.
· It is a place located DOWNWARD, NOT UPWARDS towards eternity
· A place of Outer DARKNESS
· A PRISON in chains
· It is a place of UNQUENCHABLE THIRST, a thirst for spiritual things of Christ that can never be

· It is a place of ever LONGING.
· It is a place of FIRE that is NEVER extinguished.
· A place where the worm DIETH NOT, sinners never die.
· A place of NO REST day and night.
· A place of TORMENT day and night for eternity.
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I ask this for your opinions, thoughts, and insights.


I sometimes post on another board and (hopefully its ok) I would like to link a thread that is going on over there. NOT so that we can all march over there and say "huzzah! you're wrong!" but rather I would like to have this discussion on here. I will probably be starting another thread I would like to get some more opinions on that is in tandem to this thread but worthy of a secondary set of thought patterns.


Without futher ado this is the link:
Click me! 

So the thread there is pretty simple: 

Apparently DBS is "Fractured" due to Riplingers divorces (although Dean burgeon has been a TR-Only group not  KJVO group but anyway)
Ruckman has passed away
Steven Anderson is a menace (which I don't disagree with)

Do you see the KJB issue still in full force or not?
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Let's start this thread to pray for each other on the Lord's Day. When reading this thread, pray for the church and pastor.

What church are you attending this week, and what's the pastor's name? 

I'll be at Highpoint Baptist Church, and the pastors name is Matt Souza (me 🙂 ).
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Here's just a few heretical "quotes" that I've seen on the signs in front of some of the local Baptist churches in my area...
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I'm curious to what everyone's thoughts are of the Bristol Revival that is currently going on by Evangelist CT Townsend. Is this something you would be a part of? 

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Please pray for the church and college. The following was released from the school: It has come to our attention that allegations of inappropriate conduct have been made against Cameron Giovanelli, a member of our staff. Upon receipt of the notice of the allegations, we immediately placed him on administrative leave of all activities and responsibilities, to conduct a thorough and honest investigation. ..........
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Many preachers teach that 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teaches that the sign gifts will cease, the claim is that the "perfect" of vs 10 is the completed canon of scriptures. However I have a hard time seeing how the completed scriptures were what enable Paul to "know even as I also am known". I am beginning to wonder if this interpretation of this passage of scripture is a knee jerk reaction to charismatic doctrine and chaos? I see it as a definite possibility that what the "perfect" is and what Paul means by "then shall I know even as I also am known" as a reference to our condition in glory, or something of that nature. So I have several questions

1. Does the cessation of spiritual gifts hinge on 1 Corinthians 13:8-12? What other passages of the bible teach cessationism of the sign gifts?

2. Can we know with certainty based on Biblical exegesis that the "perfect" of vs 10 is the completed canon of scripture? or do we just say that because we have heard preachers teach that? 

This was the closest to an acceptable explanation that I could find about vs 12, but I still have trouble and feel like it glosses over the phrase "shall know even as also am known"

"The word translated as glass (esoptron esoptron) literally refers to 
a mirror. The ancients did not have the technology to make useful mirrors from glass. Rather, they were made from polished metal. Of course, the imagery thereon was not clear, but somewhat fuzzy. The word translated as darkly (ainigma ainigma) is whence the English word enigma derives. Here it has the sense of ‘not clearly,’ or as the Authorized Version renders it, darkly. The idea was of the obtuse imagery of ancient mirrors. The application was to the limited degree of spiritual understanding and knowledge present in the early church ab- sent the New Testament. 

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If you could not find an IFB church in your area, what kind of Baptist churches would you never attend?   
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Giving the Gospel / Are You Ashamed of Christ?

I had intended on writing a SHORT encouraging note to others about sharing the gospel.
That truly was my main intent prior to setting about to type some thoughts and copy corresponding scripture down...

But as often happens, the Lord put something else on my heart. 
I recently had a discussion with a fellow believer who admitted that he or she rarely shared the gospel with others.
Since the conversation was somewhat recent, it may be why the Lord put it on my heart, BUT I think it may well be that it wasn't this person (in particular) but someone else (unknown to me whom) and perhaps ALL of us that could benefit by serious consideration of the following 2 questions (and why the Lord put it on my heart to bring this forward HERE today, I am not sure, but felt compelled to do so).

The 2 questions I am asking each one of us to consider today are these:
#1. Do you share the gospel with others?
#2. Are you ashamed of Christ?

Most of us here (at least those whom I've come to know somewhat) would likely answer the questions with an emphatic "YES, I share the gospel", and "NO, I am not ashamed of the Lord".

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Saved in 3 tenses?
Came across this, was a little confused. Can you guys explain this to me? Thanks! 


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Bible College
Let's start a discussion for those of you that went to Bible College. Here are a few questions for you to answer. Feel free to copy and paste with our answers.

What Bible College did you attend?

Did you graduate? What was your Major

What years did you attend?

What did you like best about the college?

What did you least like about the college?

Would you recommend that school now?

In your opinion, did the school properly train you for the ministry?

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Climate change
So as not to sidetrack the presidential thread, but picking up on a particular subject (plus, since he is not MY president my input to that thread should be minimal).

Climate change.......

I have a few opinions on various aspects of the subject.

First of all - the claims of climate change are based on the world's science.

This is the same "science" that tells us that over millions of years there have been several (at least two is what I remember being taught) ice ages, all of which occurred (according to their science) before man came upon the scene.

The question then must be asked: what caused these climate change events?

And a second question: If such climate events happened before man, then how can they attribute this so called event to man's influence?

Remember that I am talking in terms of their own science. Their own science indicates that such change happens without men, so they have no reason to assume that men have caused this one. 


Secondly, their science is based only on a short period of accurate measurements.

Santorio Santorio (1561-1636) invented the first "accurate" thermometer. 

Prior to this time there was no accurate temperature recordings, and in fact it was the 1700's (I think 1714) before a standard scale for temp was invented.

This means we only have 300years (approx) of recorded temperatures.

Remember that all other temps are worked our by scientists making certain assumptions that cannot be fully verified.

So we have three hundred years of temperature measurements with constantly improving accuracy.

But how can they possibly know from 300 years that this is a globally historic event?

Could this not be a normal temperature cycle that happens say every 600 years and has nothing to do with anything man has done?

There is no real way of knowing because only actually know with certainty that the temperatures have changed over the last 300 years.

And there are other reasonable explanations for those recorded changes.


Now, HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, man was given the task of looking after the Earth in Genesis 2 and 3, and we should be doing our utmost not to mistreat the planet that God has supplied for us.

This should be the underlying motivation for any "environmentalism" and if it is, that will of course be tempered with the other commands of God, so it will not get out of hand.

We should look after this place because God told us to.


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Just thought I would ask in the general sense - I know the standard IBF run down on the issue, and I don't particularly want a whole big argument going on, but maybe people could give their understanding of who has the authority to start a new church.

This is almost, if you will, a survey of PEOPLE's thoughts on the matter.

If you want to include some scripture to support that would be fine, but I am really looking for people's understanding, so even a general reference to the "the Bible says..." without a direct quote would be acceptable in this instance.


So the Question:

"Who has the authority to start a Biblical church?"

and secondarily, 

"what would be a short description of the process of starting a Biblical church".

Answer either or both, and anyone is welcome.




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Anderson isn't only hated by the world, but he is hated by the brethren. Why? IMO even if one disagrees with his stance on Israel or the rapture, you would have to see his love for the lost. What is the true measure of love? FWBC is winning like 100 per week, why would any christian want him to go away? 
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Offline King James Bible Search Application
I have developed a free, open source Offline King James Bible Search application.

No charge. No ads. Just KJV.

Once downloaded, it provides full functionality, even when no internet connection is available.

By selecting 'Add to home screen' on your Android or iOS device, the application mimics a native application.

There are two versions:

* Android/Windows/Linux; any platform with the latest version of Google Chrome (or Mozilla Firefox).

    Description: https://github.com/claytoncarney/offline-kjv#readme
    Download:     https://claytoncarney.github.io/offline-kjv/

* iOS 10+ (iPhone/iPad).

    Description: https://github.com/claytoncarney/offline-kjv-ios#readme
    Download:     https://claytoncarney.github.io/offline-kjv-ios/

I welcome your comments and suggestions...

God Bless,

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Is a home church a biblical church?
I would like to hear thoughts on this topic. I understand that the early church meet in houses, is this a principle we should still be following today?
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If anyone is interested, and perhaps you've heard of Westcott and Hort...but you don't really know much about them or the controversy surrounding them...this film might interest you. If you don't understand the problems with the Bible version issue...this film might interest you. Even if you do know about Westcott and Hort and the Bible version issue...this film might interest you.

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