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  1. This past Sunday evening I presented a message from Matthew 24:4-14 entitled, "Expect These Things." The theme of the message was that we New Testament believers should expect certain things to occur throughout this time of the church age. In Matthew 24:4-14 our Lord provided a prophetic utterance concerning things that SHALL occur. He was not speaking concerning the future Tribulation Period, for He does not speak concerning that until Matthew 24:15. Rather, He was speaking concerning the time period in which we are at the very present -- the time period of the New Testament church. What
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  2. Alan

    Revelation Bible Study.

    Ezekiel 45:8, “The Prince” Introduction During the 1,000-year reign of the Lord Jesus as prophesied in Isaiah 9:6, “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” The “Government” is to rule and reign as “KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS” over all of the nations of the world as prophesied by the prophet Zechariah. “And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” (Zec
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  3. When I got saved I still loved sin. I felt bad about it and knew it was wrong, but honestly I still enjoyed it and desired it. God has gradually helped me grow and my desires have changed. If a person is in Christ they are a new creature. How can a person have new desires in order to become a new creature to receive new desires???
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  4. I understand your point, but do not agree. I believe that it was better for the translators to choose an English word (since one was available) which would encompass both meanings, even as the Greek and Hebrews words respectively encompass both meanings. In this manner they could stay closer to the Holy Spirit inspired original, and would allow the reader the opportunity to discern the meaning through the context, even as would have been required in the original. By employing the word "hell" for most of the translational cases, they accomplished just this objective. Thank you for your integ
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  5. Brother Dave, I do agree that Matthew 24:15 speaks concerning the middle of the Tribulation Period (as per Daniel 9:27, as well as Revelation 12-13). However, I believe that the parallel passage to Matthew 24:4-14 is Luke 21:8-24; and in Luke 21:24 our Lord declared, "And they [the Israelites] shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." Now, I believe that "the times of the Gentiles" are primarily encompassed by the church age (as per Romans 11:25-27).
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  6. Using my Bible program I count 54 instances that specifically mention hell in the KJV. When someone writes that a word, such as hell, has been "erroneously translated", my mind puts them in the category of KJV translation correctors. It has always amazed me that there are people who have the audacity to presume to "correct" or "know better" than the original translators.The usual result of this kind of thinking ends in the numerous "versions" published in an effort to correct The KJV, which needs no correction.
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  7. With all humble honesty, there are STILL some sins at some times that I love, even after being a child of God for 34 years. The reason -- because I still retain the inner motivations of my selfish, sinful "flesh." In fact, there is NO good thing, no, not even the smallest speck, in my selfish, sinful "flesh;" and thus my selfish, sinful "flesh" ALWAYS loves sin and hates godliness.
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  8. This question is for pastors & preachers. It indeed seems like we are getting close to the end times. Since we have no idea the day nor hour the Lord will return, I'm afraid many in our churches have become lax about this issue. How do you prepare your folks about the end times?
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  9. No sir, I would hold that the shed blood and sacrificial death of the Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY propitiation acceptable in the sight of the Lord God for any sinner to be saved in any time. Yet my belief system would also acknowledge that in the viewpoint of the Lord God our Lord Jesus Christ is "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." (See Revelation 13:8)
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  10. Brother DC, Although you presented this question to Brother DaChaser (whom I believe admits to being a Calvinist), and not to myself, since you and I have engaged in discussion already on the matter in this thread, I wish to answer from my perspective -- The word "saved" most basically means "to be delivered from some trouble." In relation to eternal salvation, the word "saved" would include two aspects, one a "legal" aspect, and the other a "literal" aspect. 1. Legally, to be delivered/saved from the condemnation of one's sinfulness, and thus to be delivered from the eternal
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  11. Like I said above; KJV Translation Correctors.
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  12. I agree SureWord. Luke 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Ephesians 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. Ephesians 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? Ephesians 4:10 He that desc
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  13. This question requires a discussion of sheol/hades and what happened following the crucifixion. [Sorry of this post seems long; trust me, I'm condensing to get to this....] Prior to the crucifixion, sheol (Heb word from OT)/hades (Greek word, equivalent to sheol from NT) was the place of the departed. Jesus describes this place with a great gulf fixed between the righteous ("Paradise") and wicked side ("Hell") in the story of Lazarus in Luke 16. Immediately following the crucifixion, Jesus went into sheol and "lead captivity captive" (Eph 4:8-10). This is when Jesus took "Paradis
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  14. According to the conversation with the thief on the cross he went to Paradise. 39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. 40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. 42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in
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  15. Curtis Hutson, as a Bible believing Christian, knew that his place in Heaven was secured by repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ and the blood He shed for our sins when He died on the cross of Calvary. Brother Smith is with the Lord Jesus Christ right now, but do you know, with 100% assurance, from God's Word, that you will be with Jesus when you die? This came from www.earnestlycontending.com/KT/bios/curtishutson.html Judging from the word repentance being used in this, either himself or the person who wrote it does not believe that repentance is a work. Ta
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  16. I highly doubt it. If anything Curtis Hutson leaned towards "easy believism" for a lack of a better term.
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  17. The power of eternal salvation is the same throughout all time -- God's grace. The avenue of eternal salvation is the same throughout all time -- The Messiah/Christ of God and His work. The means of eternal salvation is the same throughout all time -- Faith in God and in His Messiah/Christ. The detailed information in the message unto eternal salvation has developed over time -- As God has progressively revealed more. The blessings of eternal salvation are the same throughout all time -- Forgiveness, Justification, Imputation, etc. The fact that Abraham did not believe in the deat
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  18. OlBrotherDC

    Salvation Before Christ?

    I would also like to take a second to say, even though we disagree on some things, I really appreciate everyone taking the time to have this conversation. I hope God blesses you.
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  19. John Young

    Salvation Before Christ?

    You are moving the focus of faith off of Christ and onto his acts. This is called "moving the goal post". We are not saved "by our faith in the death, burial, and resurrection" but rather by our faith in Christ. The acts of Christ in HIS Death Burial and Resurrection provided the way of salvation but knowledge of those facts does not save. Rather, our faith is IN CHRIST places is into HIM and only then do we become partakers in His salvation. OT believers IN CHRIST receive the same Blessings without full knowledge of HIS acts to provide that salvation, just as much as do we NT believers who ha
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  20. Actually, you are confusing the way/means of eternal salvation with the message/information of the gospel. The way/means of eternal salvation has ALWAYS been by God's grace through an individual's faith in God's revelation of the Messiah/Christ (to whatever extent that had been revealed unto their time). The fact that we now have more information concerning the Messiah/Christ does not alter the way/means of eternal salvation for ALL individuals throughout ALL time. Abraham (as well as David) was indeed an Old Testament believer. Abraham (as well as David) was indeed justified by and be
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  21. Alan

    Salvation Before Christ?

    A thorough understanding of the book of Romans, especially Romans chapter 3-8, clearly shows that we are saved through by grace through faith, in any dispensation, Jew or Gentile, whether we fully understand the work of salvation or not, through the imputed justification by Christ, without any iota of works involved. Did not Paul say, in conclusion to the matter of salvation, "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." Romans 3:28 If there is any work, of any kind, involved in the salvation of a soul, whether before the Law, during the Law, durin
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  22. OlBrotherDC

    Hello Everyone

    I am happy to be here with you all. I am an Independent Fundamental Baptist from Texas. I am currently attending an Independent Baptist Bible College. I am King James Only, Dispensational, and not a Calvinist. I look forward to learning from some of the older and more seasoned members on the site. Thanks, DC
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  23. I believe Joseph Smith was a Mason, and was influenced strongly by Masonic ceremonies in creating the “Temple Initiation” in the LDS church. There are hidden camera videos of these initiations on YouTube and they Certainly resemble masonry. There is also a video from a series giving the LDS stance on many topics, one of which is freemasonry, where the church takes the stance that it is “completely compatible with the LDS church, since they believe their is truth everywhere”. I considered freemasonry for many years before I was saved. A mason is always on a quest for “more light”. Wha
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  24. Ukulelemike

    Hello Everyone

    Welcome aboard the board. Hope we won't leave you bored.
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  25. An extremely humbling post, it convicted me mightily because it speaks directly to not only me myself, but I am convinced to most Christians if they are honest with themselves. Thank you Bro. Scott for your brutally candid honesty this morning.
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  26. Thank you Mike. I know I originally said Pastors, but I realized I would also like to hear from others as far as what would you like your Pastor to do to prepare for the end times because we might be living in them. I say this because I know as a Pastor, there are many great Godly folks in our churches that play just as an important role as the Pastor.
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  27. Nah. Just have her start in John. She'll get it - and let her know you're open to any questions she might have.
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  28. Thank you Brother Scott for your lengthy, in depth, replies on this subject. As I said in a lot simpler terms above; "Context is king". And context was never more important than in this thread.
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  29. Brother DaChaser, if you read my posting completely and follow its thought to conclusion, you will find that I am contending simply that "ascending" into heaven and "entering" into heaven are Biblically to be understood as two different things. I am NOT denying that any believer, either of the Old Testament or of the New Testament, "entered" heaven upon death. In fact, in an earlier posting I specifically declared my position (in response to a question by Brother DC) that Old Testament believers went "straight to heaven" upon their death. However, Brother DC argued against my position by pr
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  30. Brother Dave, as you indicated in your above posting, the most basic meaning for the Hebrew word "sheol" (as well as the Greek word "hades") is "the place of the dead." As such, "sheol" can contextually mean one of two things: 1. The grave itself, wherein the dead body is placed. (Even as the King James translators translated it in two of the passages that you referenced above, Genesis 37:35 & Psalm 49:15) 2. The place of God's judgment against the wicked dead. For this reason the translators chose most of the time to translate the Hebrew word "sheol" with the English word "
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  31. heartstrings

    MacArthur

    14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
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  32. Both Calvinism and Arminianism are heresy! Calvinism teaches that if a person walks away from the faith and rejects Christianity they were not saved to begin with and Arminianism teaches that if a person walks away from the faith and rejects Christianity that they lost their salvation. Both are absolutely false! The Holy Spirit seals us once we are saved and no one can pluck a believer out of God's hand. The moment you believe and trust the gospel, you are saved and have eternal life which can never be lost! Calvinism and Arminianism are both from the pit of hell and must be avoided!!!
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  33. Pastor Markle, Thanks for the good post. I have recently preached from Luke's version of this account. Like most Christians I know, prophecy is a favorite topic of mine. May I quibble with one point? Matt 24:15 mentions The Abomination of Desolation. According to Premillennial eschatology, that takes place in the middle of the Tribulation period (near to exactly, depending on which measurement of time you reckon by). That means that everything that occurs prior to v15 is "pre-Middle of the Tribulation" and not "pre-Tribulation." What I find so interesting about that is this: in
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  34. SureWord

    Beginning of Sorrows?

    What is currently happening in America does resemble the Reign of Terror in France. I remember reading about how the Chinese Communists would crucify whole villages who wouldn't send their children to be "reeducated". I also read a book (I wish I can remember the title) years ago of a Korean Christian who spent time in a "reeducation camp" during the 1950's and the horrible things that happened to political and religious prisoners. One where they buried a whole family of Christians alive. They never did renounce Christ. I would like to think I'd stand strong but there's no way unless
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  35. After reading your previous posts regarding Calvinism, I would expect nothing less from you!
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  36. I always assumed he went to both places. To hell to preach to the spirits in prison and to paradise (i.e. Abraham's Bosom) to lead captivity captive.
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  37. I didn’t say it had no relevance. I said I wouldn’t pull my doctrine from it.
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  38. I am going to guess that I am going to have some VERY STRONG disagreements with you over future time.
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  39. First, why is this even relevant to whether they received the same eternal justification, forgiveness, imputation, and salvation as we do today? (Somehow you seem to be equating some "place" with the "gift" of justification, forgiveness, imputation, and salvation; yet they are not the same thing.) Second, I do NOT agree with you (as per your earlier posting) on this point. I would contend that they went straight to heaven.
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  40. By the way, the argument of your earlier posting indicated that the problem of salvation for Old Testament believers was because Christ had not yet been crucified. This would apply to Abraham before the giving of Law, just as it would have applied to any Israelite after the giving of the Law. Thus, according to your point as given above, the giving of the Law after Abraham is not really relevant to your argument. (If your logic is not consistent, then your point loses credibility.) Furthermore, did Abraham know "the gospel of the death, burial, and resurrection" of Jesus the Christ? I
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  41. I agree with what you said, that they were sort of put on hold until they heard the Gospel of the Grace of God from Jesus after he was crucified. The dead O.T. Saints could not have went to heaven yet, (John 3:13). Is 1 Peter 4:6 what your talking about? if so the I agree. The whole point that I was trying get to, was, yes OT saints were saved by faith, but the object of their faith had not been fully revealed to them, since the Gospel of the Grace of God did not come until Paul. And OT saints in some sense had to combine works to show their faith, they had to believe God, but also “
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  42. PastorMatt

    Hello Everyone

    Welcome to OB, looking forward to your posts.
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  43. The same can be shown for Moses (Hebrews 11:24-27), and David (Acts 2:30-31, 4:25-28), and many other OT saints, that they trusted in Christ (the coming messiah). Something to note as you read the gospels, the amount of people who were looking for "The Christ" to deliver them BEFORE Jesus died on the cross. They were not looking for the cross or some generic promise that God gave about the nation but rather looking for their savior. The wicked wanted to destroy him, the faithful wanted to submit to him. If you do a word study on "Christ" in the Gospels, before Jesus was sacrificed, you will se
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  44. Psalm 23:1-6, “The Cup of Blessing From the Lord.” A Psalm of David. Introduction God is Lord. God is concerned over our well being and will bless those people who trust in Him. A full cup symbolizes the blessings of the Lord in the life of a Christian. Ephesians 1:3, “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ.” God gives us spiritual blessings. These blessings are fruits from the Holy Spirit. Galatians 5:22 and 23, “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peac
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  45. Ukulelemike

    Plaigerizing

    Well, they're all using the same source material, and unless the other pastor is copyrighting all his material, (a terrible idea anyways), as long as the sermons are good and biblically sound, I don't know that it is a problem, ethically. Now, if he is a full-time pastor, with plenty of time to prepare sermons, and he is being paid to do that, but all he does is use others' sermons, then maybe that ought to be taken up as to whether he is doing his job. But I doubt there are any pastors who haven't used other pastors' sermons before. Even Charles Spurgeon admitted to preaching Matthew Hen
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  46. This man spews unbiblical hatred and false doctrines. https://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/What_About_Steven_Anderson.pdf
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  47. You have said all that before.
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  48. Aren't Benedictines a sort of a breakfast food, an egg on a muffin with sauce on it?
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  49. Jim_Alaska

    MacArthur

    My "Like" above is for Bro. Wayne's comments, not for the video.
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  50. I always wanted a sign so I could say, "We put the "Fun" in FUNdamentalism!" ow we don't even have a building of our own. One day....
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