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A bit earlier this morning, my pastor Randy Hoxie (Faith Baptist Church in Chilliwack, BC) had a heart attack and is undergoing surgery in a hospital in Vancouver right now. Please pray for the blockage to be removed and for the Lord to heal his heart (with no complications). Thank you in advance for any prayers.

The arguments given here against Calvinism are profound, and scripturally true. But I am a simple man and to me it all boils down to a very simple argument and verse. If Calvinism is true, then God deliberately creates THIS person for Heaven and then He deliberately creates THAT person for hell. 1 John 4:8 tells us that God is love. I'm sure that person that the Calvinistic god deliberately created for hell sure sees the Calvinistic god as love. I just cannot cross over that very simple hurdle. And no Calvinistic argument can change my mind. God is love. And He wants to share that love with whosever will. My loving God has NEVER created anyone for hell. If that is where you end up it was entirely your choice.

If she was teaching a class to other women and/children (or teens), that is okay - but not if she was teaching a class with men in it. This is referring to a political leader specifically, but when women and children lead a country, it is a sign of judgement of God on that nation. Isaiah 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

A couple of months ago, I reunited with a childhood friend, Ron, who I became emotionally close to (no physical contact, which he respected).I began to share my faith in Christ with him, and he was open to it, but then suddenly after he admitted some skeletons from his past, he shut down and decided he couldn't live up to the man he wanted to be for me. He took off and I never heard from him again. I emailed him, but he ignored. I miss him very much.

The devil hates and wants to destroy the family. Feminism, Femininization of men, masculinization of women, domination by women, open disrespect and vilification of men by society, abuse of women and children, our education system, government and our judicial system are all part of the many ploys and avenues the devil uses to destroy the family. Destroying God's order at the very basic level, in the home, I think is the most devastating. But he even works in churches; not just by the teaching of the wrong things, but failing to teach some of the right things. (1 Peter 4:17)

Deuteronomy 30:19 says..... 19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: So, why did God(same God) give people the option to "choose" life if He already has made the choice for them?

Belief was totally selfish, on my part. I don't see how Calvinists can say our belief is 'taking credit" for salvation; unless they have never really been saved themselves.

Poor Calvinist...they are forced to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ outside of their will. However, I willingly do it.

How arrogant to think that you - a Calvinist - have everything right and can come here and tell non-Calvinists how wrong they are. Romans 9 is dealing with nations, not individuals.

Salvation being 100% of God doesn’t negate man’s response - and that’s where they get it wrong. The Holy Spirit enlightens us to the truth; convicts us of our sin, our unrighteousness, and our need for the Saviour, enables us to understand the truth of who Jesus is and what He has done to save us, and shows us that salvation is not something that can be earned through anything we can do. Man responds either positively or negatively to this. If we receive the truth by receiving the Saviour and His free gift of salvation, the Holy Spirit then regenerates and indwells us, we are adopted into the family of God, given an inheritance in Christ and a future home in Heaven. That’s all by His grace - but we need to receive it, and God doesn’t force man to believe or be saved. That is up to us - and yes, He even calls and compels us - but we still need to receive the Gospel to be saved.

There are some people that do say that. It is not the typical denomination in the sense that IFB's do not have a headquarters dictating to them what to believe, what to preach, what to do. Though we are a denomination in the sense that we are Baptists and are likeminded to many other IFB churches (though not 100% - each studies the Bible on their own and is led by their own leadership, so some conclusions and basic understanding of issues/doctrine may differ).

Did You Know?... 666 is (your welcome)

Behold is a hyperdispensationalist - probably in the same crowd as Robert Breaker and Gene Kim. They only believe out of the whole Bible that Paul’s letters are applicable to the church - and even if Hebrews was written by Paul, it was written before he got his gospel from God so therefore is not for the church either. So literally they only accept 87 out of the 1189 chapters of the whole Bible! Sad!

He is doing better but still in icu probably for several more days.

Belief is not defined in the Bible as any kind of work (in fact it is the opposite). It is a response on our part to what God has done and said.

Calvinists always seem to try this tripe trying to make "spiritual death", ie, spiritual separation from God, mean the same thing as physical death...not even comparable. Spiritual separation from God, or "spiritually dead" isn't anywhere near the same. Salvation, even in the Calvinist ideology, requires a decision...but, of course, through the In the Calvinist interpretation, we find that this decision has already been made for the participant "from before the foundation of the world." This isn't a "decision" but a forceful bringing into Christianity. It negates over 50% of Scripture concerning salvation.

You're entitled to your opinion. It sometimes seems like you just want to diss anything and everything and one you can. Do you EVER post anything positive? Gay marriage is already legal, no matter how sickening it is. Many Republicans are already in support of this and other whether anyone likes it or not. The party has continued to move left and is no longer worth the support it receives.

Yes, As the passage stated He was 30 when He began His public ministry. By comparing all the feasts in the Gospel of John, most people believe His ministry was about 3 1/2 years long - that makes Him between 33-34 years old when He died (as has been stated by others here too). As far as the exact years Jesus was born and died, they are still 33-34 years apart - regardless of what year some historian or Bible Critic has as the starting date. What is important is what the Bible gives as the chronology of His life. The same difficulty comes about when you try to date the events in the book of Acts - many different writers have differing starting dates (of what year Jesus died) - but there is an internal timeline that you can still come up with that does not depend on these conflicting dates, and which will still give you an accurate timeline of overall events (within a few months to a year). If you make note of how long between each event, etc. you can still know this was 5 years after Pentecost, this was 3 years and six months after that, this was … and so on. (Making general time references as I do not have my Bible in front of me right now.) Now I have my notes… For example, one passage says Paul was at a certain place teaching for three years, another says he was in jail for two years, and so on. Put all the references together and you can make a framework of dates within the book of Acts itself, regardless of the starting date. Paul got saved on the Damascus road two years after Pentecost, then he spent three years training with Jesus in the Arabian Desert… If your starting date was the year 32 (based on Robert Anderson’s conclusions in The Coming Prince), that makes it about 34 AD when Paul got saved in Acts 9, and about the year 37 when he finished his three years of discipleship with Jesus in Acts 9:23. It takes a bit of time, but the rest of Acts can be dated this way - and when you find an author/commentator that has a different starting date, you can just start counting from there - ie. +2 years to Paul’s salvation, +3 years until he cam back from Arabia (see Galatians 1:15-18), +10 more years when Barnabas and Saul/Paul came back from Jerusalem in Acts 12:25, then +3-4 more years till the Jerusalem counsel in Acts 15:1 - see also Galatians 2:1), and so on. Sorry for the long comments, but this is something I have put some effort into and tried to figure out how to have a working framework for studying with.

[21] Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, [22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. [23] And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,- Luke 3:21-23 The Lord's ministry lasted around three years so he was most likely 33 maybe 34 when he was crucified.

Come, Thou Fount Robert Robinson and John Wyeth 1 Come, Thou Fount of every blessing, Tune my heart to sing Thy grace; Streams of mercy, never ceasing, Call for songs of loudest praise. Teach me some melodious sonnet, Sung by flaming tongues above; Praise the mount I'm fixed upon it Mount of Thy redeeming love. 2 Here I raise mine Ebenezer; Hither by Thy help I'm come; And I hope, by Thy good pleasure, Safely to arrive at home. Jesus sought me when a stranger, Wandering from the fold of God; He, to rescue me from danger, Interposed His precious blood. 3 O to grace how great a debtor Daily I'm constrained to be! Let Thy goodness, like a fetter, Bind my wandering heart to Thee: Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it, Prone to leave the God I love: Here's my heart, O take and seal it; Seal it for Thy courts above.

Agree or disagree with the following: "Nondenominational" refers to religious organizations or congregations that do not align themselves with any particular established denomination or sect within a religion. However, despite not affiliating with a specific denomination, nondenominational groups can still be considered a denomination themselves, albeit with some nuances. Here's why: Distinct Identity: Nondenominational churches or religious groups often have their own distinct identity, beliefs, practices, and organizational structures. While they may not adhere to the specific doctrines of a particular denomination, they still form a cohesive group with shared beliefs and practices. Organizational Structure: Although they may not have hierarchical structures like denominations, nondenominational groups often have their own leadership, clergy, and organizational frameworks. They may have local congregations, national headquarters, and sometimes even international networks. Theological Perspectives: While nondenominational groups may claim to be nonsectarian and open to a variety of theological perspectives, they typically have a set of core beliefs or doctrines that distinguish them from other groups. These beliefs may not align precisely with any one denomination but still serve to define the group's identity. Community and Fellowship: Like denominations, nondenominational groups provide a sense of community and fellowship for their members. They often gather for worship, religious education, social activities, and community service, creating a cohesive religious community. Recognition and Affiliation: While nondenominational groups may eschew formal denominational labels, they often seek recognition from legal and regulatory bodies, such as tax-exempt status from government authorities. They may also affiliate with broader networks of nondenominational churches or organizations for support and cooperation. In summary, while nondenominational groups may not fit neatly into traditional denominational categories, they still exhibit many characteristics of denominations, including distinct identity, organizational structure, theological perspectives, community, and recognition. Thus, they can be considered a denomination in their own right, albeit one that emphasizes independence and flexibility in religious practice and belief.

Many churches calling themselves non denominational I've seen are very very similar to charismatic Anglicans or Methodists. They say they are non denom yet have almost exactly the same statement of faith as a denomination. Their non denominational idea is not to go back to scripture, but to do things their own way. But then also you can get the rare non-denominational church that just goes by the bible and matches very closely or the same as an IFB church. That's because they have the same stance of letting the bible govern their beliefs.

O God, Our Help in Ages Past Isaac Watts and William Croft 1 Our God, our Help in ages past, our Hope for years to come, our Shelter from the stormy blast, and our eternal Home. 2 Under the shadow of Thy throne Thy saints have dwelt secure; sufficient is Thine arm alone, and our defense is sure. 3 Before the hills in order stood or earth received its frame, from everlasting Thou art God, to endless years the same. 4 A thousand ages in Thy sight are like an ev'ning gone, short as the watch that ends the night before the rising sun. 5 Time, like an ever-rolling stream, bears all its sons away; they fly forgotten, as a dream dies at the op'ning day. 6 Our God, our Help in ages past, our Hope for years to come, be Thou our Guide while life shall last, and our eternal Home!

Be Still, My Soul Katharina von Schlegel and Jean Sibelius 1 Be still, my soul: the Lord is on thy side; Bear patiently the cross of grief or pain; Leave to thy God to order and provide; In ev'ry change He faithful will remain. Be still, my soul: thy best, thy heav'nly Friend Thro' thorny ways leads to a joyful end. 2 Be still, my soul: thy God doth undertake To guide the future as He has the past. Thy hope, thy confidence let nothing shake; All now mysterious shall be bright at last. Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below. 3 Be still, my soul: the hour is hast'ning on When we shall be forever with the Lord, When disappointment, grief, and fear are gone, Sorrow forgot, love's purest joys restored. Be still, my soul: when change and tears are past, All safe and blessed we shall meet at last.

Come, Thou Almighty King Unknown, Felice de Giardini 1 Come, Thou Almighty King, Help us Thy name to sing, Help us to praise: Father, all-glorious, O'er all victorious, Come, and reign over us, Ancient of Days. 2 Come, Thou Incarnate Word, Gird on Thy mighty sword, Our prayer attend: Come, and Thy people bless, And give Thy word success: Spirit of holiness, On us descend. 3 Come, Holy Comforter, Thy sacred witness bear In this glad hour: Thou who almighty art, Now rule in ev'ry heart, And ne'er from us depart, Spirit of pow'r. 4 To the great One in Three Eternal praises be Hence, evermore! His sov'reign majesty May we in glory see, And to eternity Love and adore!

Saviour, Like a Shepherd Lead Us Dorothy A. Thrupp and William B. Bradbury 1 Saviour, like a shepherd lead us, Much we need Thy tender care; In Thy pleasant pastures feed us, For our use Thy folds prepare: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast bought us, Thine we are; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast bought us, Thine we are. 2 We are Thine; do Thou befriend us, Be the Guardian of our way; Keep Thy flock, from sin defend us, Seek us when we go astray: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Hear, O hear us when we pray; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Hear, O hear us when we pray. 3 Thou hast promised to receive us, Poor and sinful tho' we be; Thou hast mercy to relieve us, Grace to cleanse, and pow'r to free: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Early let us turn to Thee; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Early let us turn to Thee. 4 Early let us seek Thy favor; Early let us do Thy will; Blessed Lord and only Saviour, With Thy love our bosoms fill: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast loved us, love us still; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast loved us, love us still.

For the last few years, the Berean Call has made various ebooks and tracts/pamphlets by Dave Hunt and others at the Berean Call available for free download. I do not endorse everything about Dave Hunt, but he is one of the best out there for exposing doctrinal and practical corruption in modern Christendom. There are two official sites that I am aware of that are offering some of their material for free downloads: Shop | The Berean Call This one you will need to create an account (name, address, does not ask for any payment info because these materials are free) and add the free ebooks you are interested in to your basket (if given the choice, choose pdf as devices and ereaders (and webpages) can handle that, some of the other options like epub are only usable with a specific program, so I don't recommend that, unless you know it is what you need). They will send you a receipt (for $0), then in a separate email the download link (this could come an hour or two later). The Official Store of The Berean Call – TBC Store (davehunt.org) This site does not need a login, and as soon as you checkout, it goes to the page you can download the ebook. I would check both sites, as not all their products overlap. Yesterday, I saw Occult Invasion for free. This is a basically 500 page book that I had read some of a couple of years ago. Glad to see it here now. Of course, download any and all that you are interested in. Some of the other good ones they have available now are: What Love Is This? (book exposing Calvinism), Judgment Day (on Israel and the Middle East), Showtime For the Sheep (the danger of Hollywood depictions of Jesus), Newsletter Reprints (this is every one of their monthly newsletters that are available since the ministry started in 1986, updated every year with the previous year added - contains a TOC and an index of subjects). I think Mind Invaders and Sanctuary of the Chosen are both fiction, exposing the occult, etc. I would suggest at least downloading all the books, if not the tracts or the pamphlets.

Paul was a missionary and a church planter - yet he still was sent out from the Antioch church, like church planters and missionaries today. Not sure why such a “great and wise Bible teacher” as yourself is so blind he cannot see or acknowledge that basic fact. Maybe you are too puffed up by your supposed knowledge. 1 Corinthians 8:1b Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.

Reader. - On the Cross....Jesus became your sin.........all of it. 2 Corinthians 5:21 On the Cross....Jesus became your sin.........all of it. 2 Corinthians 5:21 Jesus took it all upon Himself and DIED, and it ended there. He didn't come out of the Grave with your sin on Him......He left it, and that is were you sin is found. Its not on you. It's on the Cross of Christ....and its gone if you are born again. When you read that you are "made righteous", having become "the righteousness of God, in Christ", .. that is indeed the reality regarding all the born again. God has established you as "in Christ", "made righteous" and there you remain for as long as God lives. This is why the NT teaches you that : "as Jesus IS........so are the born again, in THIS world". Romans 4:8 says that God does not charge you with your sin. 2 Corinthians 5:19, said that you are not charged with any sin.......not ever again. The CROSS of Christ is the reason why So, who is charged with all your sin???? A.) Jesus on the Cross. = He is your "one time eternal sacrifice for ALL sin". = Not some.....not a few, but ALL sin.......all of it. And you say....."what about what i did yesterday". ALL OF IT. Jesus Became your sin and died for them ALL. "Jesus is the ONE TIME... ETERNAL... sacrifice for sin".. Now, in comes a heretic to tell you......."he is teaching you can live anyway you want". But that is not true. Its not true that because you are as sinless as the Blood of God on the Cross can make you, and that is ' HOLY".. "RIGHTEOUS"...... "one with GOD"......that you can now live like the devil and face no consequences.. As you will reap what you sow = down here.. Sure. Absolutely. You will "reap what you have sown" down here, as that spiritual law didn't end with the Cross of Christ. However, the judgment of God, against your sin, will NEVER FIND YOU now or in eternity, because JESUS has been judged for all your sin on the Cross, 2000 yrs ago. He's died for them all., 2000 yrs ago. WELCOME TO SALVATION ! And Reader, if you are born again.......then when you get this revelation, of being >made righteous<......it will not cause you to want to sin. It will cause you to want to crawl on your hands and knees to the feet of Jesus and wash his feet with your tears and dry His feet with your hair. THAT is what the GRACE of GOD does to you, when you understand it. It HUMBLES you.. and causes you to Love God more and want to please Him more and more and more. Thats a FACT. It will cause you to love God more. It will cause you to become more dedicated to righteous living. iT will cause you to want to please God more than you have ever wanted to before, and it will sustain that, once you get the revelation. It will cause you to say to God...."here is my life, take it God, use me, USE ME".. "I am YOURS">.. Listen... The devil's ministers, first of all, do not want you to know you are eternally : "one with God' "made righteous". They want you to believe you are just a "saved sinner", a discipleship failure, waiting to sin again and confess it again. There false Gospel is Romans 9 and not God's Grace. The truth is, you are a born again SAINT.. You exist as "seated in Heavenly places" in Christ. You. have been MADE RIGHTEOUS, by God's "gift of Righteousness" and "Gift of Salvation". The Blood of JESUS on the Cross has been applied to YOU, and it will keep you CLEAN and "made free from sin", forever. See....Jesus has become your sin, if you are born again, and YOU have become "the righteousness OF GOD, IN CHRIST". Thats who you are, if you are born again. Get the revelation SAINT, and your walk with God will CHANGE so much into HOLY Spirit power and joy and perseverance,... and the New Testament, will begin to reveal to you it's hidden Light. But you have to go here and stay here. = Hebrews 13:9 Jesus took it all upon Himself and DIED, and it ended there. He didn't come out of the Grave with your sin on Him......He left it, and that is were you sin is found. Its not on you. It's on the Cross of Christ....its gone if you are born again, and you are not just some water baptized religious cult member. When you read that you are "made righteous", having become "the righteousness of God, in Christ", .. that is indeed the reality of all the born again. God has established you as "in Christ", "made righteous" and there you remain for as long as God lives. This is why the NT teaches you that : "as Jesus IS........so are the born again, in THIS world". Romans 4:8 says that God does not charge you with your sin. 2 Corinthians 5:19, said that you are not charged with any sin.......not ever again. The CROSS of Christ is the reason why. Im an evangelist who is CALLED to deliver that message., same as Paul....same as you, if you are born again. That is the "message of reconciliation" that is The Gospel of the Grace of GOD. This is the "preaching of the Cross". This is the 'word of Salvation"...>"be you RECONCILED TO GOD".....by the CROSS of Christ. So, who is charged with all your sin???? A.) Jesus on the Cross. He is your "one time eternal sacrifice for ALL sin". = Not some.....not a few, but ALL sin.......all of it. And you say....."what about what i did yesterday". ALL OF IT. Jesus Became your sin and died for them ALL. Now, in comes the devil to tell you......."he is teaching you can live like me", and His online ministers will be the first to tell you that. But that is not true. Its not true that because you are as sinless as the Blood of God on the Cross can make you, and that is ' HOLY".. "RIGHTEOUS"...... "one with GOD"......that you can now live like the devil and face no consequences.. As you will reap what you sow down here.. Sure. Absolutely. But the judgment of God, against your sin, will NEVER FIND YOU now or in eternity, because JESUS has been judged for all your sin on the Cross. He's died for them all., 2000 yrs ago. WELCOME TO SALVATION ! And Reader, and some of you are born again.......when you get this revelation, of being >made righteous<......it will not cause you to want to sin. It will cause you to want to crawl on your hands and knees to the feet of Jesus and wash his feet with your tears and dry His feet with your hair. THAT is what the GRACE of GOD does to you, when you understand it. Thats a FACT. It will cause you to love God more. It will cause you to become more dedicated to righteous living. iT will cause you to want to please God more than you have ever wanted to before, and it will sustain that, once you get the revelation. It will cause you to say to God...."here is my life, take it God, use me, USE ME".. "I am YOURS">.. Listen... The devil's ministers, first of all, do not want you to know you are "one with God' "made righteous". They want you to believe you are just a "saved sinner", a Christian failure, waiting to sin again and confess it again. But that is not the truth. They are lying to you on Forums and from Pulpits... The truth is, you are a born again SAINT.. You exist as "seated in Heavenly places" in Christ. You. have been MADE RIGHTEOUS, by God's "gift of Righteousness" and "Gift of Salvation". The Blood of God on the Cross has been applied to YOU, and it will keep you CLEAN in God's perspective, forever. Jesus has become your sin, if you are born again, and YOU have become "the righteousness OF GOD, IN CHRIST". Thats who you are, if you are born again, and not just some religious water baptized religious fakir. Get the revelation, and your walk with God will CHANGE so much into power and joy and perseverance,... and the New Testament, will begin to reveal to you it's hidden Light. But you have to go here and stay here. God bless you to see it. = Hebrews 13:9

On a Friday night, we watched "Courageous" with our Youth. After the movie, we held a Bible Study session where we used Scripture to support the message conveyed in the film.

We're still the same. We're too contemporary for some, and too conservative for others. We're just going to try to please God.

Messiah: Hallelujah Chorus George Frideric Handel Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! For the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! For the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! The kingdom of this world Is become the kingdom of our Lord, And of His Christ, and of His Christ; And He shall reign for ever and ever, For ever and ever, forever and ever, King of kings, and Lord of lords, King of kings, and Lord of lords, : And Lord of lords, And He shall reign, And He shall reign forever and ever, King of kings, forever and ever, And Lord of lords, Hallelujah! Hallelujah! And He shall reign forever and ever, King of kings! and Lord of lords! : And He shall reign forever and ever, King of kings! and Lord of lords! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

I Sing The Mighty Power Of God Isaac Watts Music: 'Ellacombe' from Gesangbuch der Herzogl. Hofkapelle, Wurttemberg 1 I sing the mighty pow'r of God, That made the mountains rise; That spread the flowing seas abroad, And built the lofty skies. I sing the wisdom that ordained The sun to rule the day: The moon shines full at His command, And all the stars obey. 2 I sing the goodness of the Lord, That filled the earth with food: He formed the creatures with His word, And then pronounced them good. Lord, how Thy wonders are displayed, Where'er I turn my eye; If I survey the ground I tread, Or gaze upon the sky. 3 There's not a plant or flow'r below, But makes Thy glories known; And clouds arise and tempests blow, By order from Thy throne. Creatures that borrow life from Thee Are subject to Thy care: There's not a place where we can flee, But God is present there.

Blessed Assurance Fanny Crosby and Phoebe Palmer Knapp 1 Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine; Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine! Heir of salvation, purchase of God, Born of His Spirit, washed in His blood. CHORUS This is my story, this is my song, Praising my Savior all the day long. This is my story, this is my song, Praising my Savior all the day long. 2 Perfect submission, perfect delight, Visions of rapture now burst on my sight; Angels descending, bring from above Echoes of mercy, whispers of love. CHORUS 3 Perfect submission, all is at rest, I in my Savior am happy and blest; Watching and waiting, looking above, Filled with His goodness, lost in His love. CHORUS

Reader, There is this Teaching that the more hyper Calvinists seem to employ. This.. = "You must be born again, before you can believe, before you can give God your faith". Now, any Believer who is born again for 12 seconds, can see that this is exactly backwards, and is an impossible situation to EXIST. That teaching is teaching that God would join Himself to a sinner, as "one with God" "in Christ"...= before God has received their faith to then forgive their sin. So that teaching is... "you are born again, before you have heard the Gospel, and before you have BELIEVED IT"> That is,= "Salvation comes to you.... before the hearing of faith..... and before you trusted in Christ..." That teaching is...."you are born again to then be able to have faith in Christ". Now, see how CRAZY Calvinism that is?? That teaching is Theological insanity, and is one of the best examples of... Hebrews 13:9, = "doctrines of Devils". That Teaching is a rejection of "All that believe in Jesus, shall be saved". That Teaching is : Galatians 1:8

Reader... Lets get real... Lets keep it real.... The reason that Lordship Salvation is denial of the Cross....Its because the Salvation of God, is.. You were a dirty lost sinner, and you never did anything for God. You loved sin. You never cared about Law, or Commandments, and you thought that "Christ is a crutch for the weak". If you went to church at all it was "Easter" or some Christmas service, and you sat there bored, looking at the "chicks'. Yeah YOU. So, THAT stinking mess of humanity, heard the Gospel, and had a REVELATION that you needed Jesus. So, you came forward, or you kneeled and prayed, and gave God your faith in Christ. You, a hell bound sinning dog..... And now, later, you are trying to teach, prove... that you came to Jesus and knew anything AT THAT TIME, about JESUS being THE LORD? You knew nothing about this.. at THAT TIME. All you knew is that something was happening inside you, and you obeyed it from the heart and God took you, filthy you, and made you clean with the BLOOD of Jesus., by HIS GRACE. And now you "lordship" cult people, want to pretend that AT THAT TIME you had your "Lordship Theology", all lined up. "If Christ is not LORD OF YOUR LIFE< He's not LORD AT ALL".... or "If Jesus is not Lord of all then He's not Lord at all"..... So, i know some carnal words that i acquired before i was born again, that tend to "pop up in my thinking"...... and they fit this "lordship" nonsense perfectly. I"ll refrain. But you get the message, fakirs. -pathetic.

Crown Him With Many Crowns Matthew Bridges and George Job Elvey 1 Crown Him with many crowns, The Lamb upon His throne; Hark! how the heav’nly anthem drowns All music but its own! Awake, my soul, and sing Of Him who died for thee, And hail Him as thy matchless King Through all eternity. 2 Crown Him the Virgin’s Son, The God Incarnate born, Whose arm those crimson trophies won Which now His brow adorn: Fruit of the mystic Tree, As of that Tree the Stem; The Root whence flows Thy mercy free, The Babe of Bethlehem. 3 Crown Him the Lord of Love: Behold His hands and side; Rich wounds yet visible above In beauty glorified: No angel in the sky Can fully bear that sight, But downward bends his burning eye At mysteries so bright. 4 Crown Him the Lord of peace, Whose power a scepter sways From pole to pole, that wars may cease, And all be prayer and praise. His reign shall know no end, And round His pierced feet Fair flowers of glory now extend Their fragrance ever sweet. 5 Crown Him the Lord of years, The Potentate of time. Creator of the rolling spheres, Ineffably sublime. All hail, Redeemer, hail! For Thou hast died for me; Thy praise shall never, never fail Throughout eternity.

Holy, Holy, Holy! Reginald Heber and John B. Dykes 1 Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God Almighty! Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee! Holy!, Holy, Holy! Merciful and Mighty! God in Three Persons, blessed Trinity! 2 Holy, Holy, Holy! All the saints adore Thee, Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea; Cherabim and seraphim falling down before Thee, Who wert, and art, and evermore shall be. 3 Holy, Holy, Holy! Tho' the darkness hide Thee, Tho' the eye of sinful man Thy glory may not see, Only Thou art holy; there is none beside Thee Perfect in power, in love, in purity. 4 Holy, Holy, Holy! Lord God Almighty! All Thy works shall praise Thy name in earth, and sky, and sea; Holy, Holy, Holy! Merciful and Mighty! God in Three Persons, blessed Trinity!

Great Is Thy Faithfulness Thomas O. Chisholm and William M. Runyan 1 "Great is thy faithfulness," O God my Father, There is no shadow of turning with Thee; Thou changest not, Thy compassions they fail not; As Thou hast been Thou forever wilt be. CHORUS "Great is Thy faithfulness! Great is Thy faithfulness!" Morning by morning new mercies I see; All I have needed Thy hand hath provided "Great is Thy faithfulness," Lord, unto me! 2 Summer and winter and springtime and harvest, Sun, moon and stars in their courses above, Join with all nature in manifold witness, To Thy great faithfulness, mercy and love. CHORUS 3 Pardon for sin and a peace that endureth, Thy own dear presence to cheer and to guide; Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow, Blessings all mine, with ten thousand beside! CHORUS

Noah would not be considered "perfect" after the flood. He got drunk and then cursed his own grandson for something the poor kid didn't do. I believe he was a flawed sinner saved by grace just like you and me. It's not speaking of being a "perfect" man for sure. But one can be absolutely perfect in God's prescription for procreation by marrying one woman and gendering all of your children solely and exclusively by that one wife. That is exactly what Noah did. We say we believe that the King James Bible was accurately translated into the English language by the providence of God, down to the last detail. Yet we have to go to the Greek or original Hebrew to determine what it really means only to find it doesn't mean the same from one passage to another(only to be determined by having access to Hebrew or Greek)? Here you have one word "generations" and it means different things in different places? Did the folks back in 1611 have access to a Strong's Concordance or anything else in order to determine what the words meant? The word Generation comes from the same root that our word "generator" comes from. It basically means to "produce" something: does that mean "dwelling" or "revolution of time". I guess, if a bunch of guys built a house you could say they "generated" the house. When the Bible says, in Genesis 5 "These are the generations of Adam" it's talking about what Adam "produced". In other words Adam "generated" every single one of the people named in Genesis 5. That's all it means. I can't help what Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek or whatever word the two different instances of "generations" came from; In English "generations" means "generations". And nobody mentioned "sexual activity". All I'm saying is, just like a "generator" produces electricity, the word "generations" means "productions" or "things produced"..Actually, I believe Noah "generated" more than just Shem, Ham and Japheth. If you look at the sentence "these are the generations of Noah" is followed by a colon(:). That means that what follows in the sentence is what those "generations" are. 1. Noah was a just man (how? by trusting God in faith) 2. He was perfect in his generations (already explained) 3. And Noah walked with God (Noah chose to not only trust God, but he chose to walk with God) All 3 of these things were produced in Noah's life. generation noun as in creation, production Compare Synonyms SynonymsAntonyms Strong matches bearing breeding formation genesis origination procreation propagation reproduction Weak matches begetting bringing forth engenderment fructifying multiplying spawning https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/generation

Right. I have attended several non-denominational groups as a much younger believer in the early to mid 90’s - ones such as Bible Chapels and Christian Centres when I was living in Kelowna. When I moved to Saskatchewan for a couple of years, I checked out those groups there, and they had the same beliefs, practices, etc. That makes them a denomination, despite what they may claim.

Nothing But the Blood Robert Lowry 1 What can wash away my sin? Nothing but the blood of Jesus; What can make me whole again? Nothing but the blood of Jesus. CHORUS Oh! Precious is the flow That makes me white as snow; No other fount I know, Nothing but the blood of Jesus. 2 For my pardon this I see Nothing but the blood of Jesus; For my cleansing this my plea Nothing but the blood of Jesus. CHORUS 3 Nothing can for sin atone Nothing but the blood of Jesus; Naught of good that I have done Nothing but the blood of Jesus. CHORUS 4 This is all my hope and peace Nothing but the blood of Jesus; This is all my righteousness Nothing but the blood of Jesus. CHORUS

Grace Greater Than Our Sin Julia H. Johnston and Daniel B. Towner 1 Marvelous grace of our loving Lord, Grace that exceeds our sin and our guilt, Yonder in Calvary's mount out poured, There where the blood of the Lamb was spilt. CHORUS Grace, grace, God's grace, Grace that will pardon and cleanse within; Grace, grace, God's grace, Grace that is greater than all our sin. 2 Sin and despair like the sea waves cold, Threaten the soul with infinite loss; Grace that is greater, yes, grace untold, Points to the Refuge, the Mighty Cross. CHORUS 3 Dark is the stain that we cannot hide, What can avail to wash it away? Look there is flowing a crimson tide; Whiter than snow you may be today. CHORUS 4 Marvelous, infinite, matchless grace, Freely bestowed on all who believe; You that are longing to see His face, Will you this moment His grace receive? Marvelous grace, Infinite grace, Grace that is greater than all our sin.

I will clarify, it is hyperdispensationalists doing what you said (not dispensationalists overall). Being a dispensationalist is Biblical - this is an acknowledgement that God had different rules and ways of working in different periods of man's history. That is literally what dispensations are - the word means house laws. In the Garden of Eden (what is often referred to as the age of innocence), the only command they had was not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then was what is often referred to as the age of conscience. Later, Noah built and ark and the new inhabitants were under human government now (not directly governed by God), later there was the period of the patriarchs and the promises of God, then the period of the Law, now we are in the church age/grace - one salvation, but different commands on how we are to live, different levels of knowledge, next will be the Day of the Lord (including the tribulation period and the Millennium/the kingdom age), then eternity. Don't worry about the names, they are just for clarification and identification. The takeawy is that there are seven or eight distinct clear ages or period in man's history where God dealt with them differently - all failed or will fail, except eternity, where only true regenerated and immortal (ie. no longer mortal, sinful bodes) believers dwell in the presence of God. Ephesians gets into the dispensations or ages - so it is a Biblical concept. The problem comes when hyperdispensationalist come to divide the history of man in ways the Bible does not (ie. different salvation, this or that part of the Bible ONLY for that time period - not taking into account certain things being types which were later fulfilled or ceremonial things, etc. Also, some may differ on exact time periods or details of some aspect of a dispensation (such as what you mentioned above about the exact start of the church), but that is why we need to rightly divide the Word of God and not throw out or reject Biblical concepts because some have gone overboard on something. Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: Dispensation is: "oikonomía, (which is literal laws of the house - nomia laws, oikos house) from G3623; administration (of a household or estate); specially, a (religious) "economy":—dispensation, stewardship. This exact form of the word is used seven times in the NT (1 listed above and 6 below - I don't know if there are more right now as I am just giving a quick reply - but there are other passages and terms used to teach this principle): Luke 16:2 And he called him, and said unto him, How is it that I hear this of thee? give an account of thy stewardship; for thou mayest be no longer steward. Luke 16:3 Then the steward said within himself, What shall I do? for my lord taketh away from me the stewardship: I cannot dig; to beg I am ashamed. Luke 16:4 I am resolved what to do, that, when I am put out of the stewardship, they may receive me into their houses. 1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; If necessary, we can start a thread to give further info/discussion on this.

Not all Jews believe that Hell is not a place of Torment. Of of those who would disagree is Jesus, (The Jew). We live in "the time of the gentiles" and the "end times" are here, so, the Devil knows this and he's doing all He can to deceive. We know that the world is deceived by the "god of this world" and we know that many false prophets are among us, false teachers, pastors, denominations., and even many bibles that are filled with much that is false. So, is it any wonder that Satan would not want you to believe that there is a Hell waiting, just as there is a Heaven offered? Hell is as real as The One who made it for "the devil and his angels", even before Adam and Eve showed up.

I would simply say -- The husband is the "head" of his wife in the same manner that Christ is the "Head" of the church. However that might apply for Christ in relation to the church must have a similar application for the husband in relation to his wife. So, is Christ just a "spiritual leader" for the church; or is Christ the "boss" of the church?

I'm sorry...I somehow ended up posting 100 instead of nearly 200 years. So, you're correct. Thank you for correcting that. The War of Northern Aggression was the cause of many things.