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  1. If she was teaching a class to other women and/children (or teens), that is okay - but not if she was teaching a class with men in it. This is referring to a political leader specifically, but when women and children lead a country, it is a sign of judgement of God on that nation. Isaiah 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
    5 points
  2. The devil hates and wants to destroy the family. Feminism, Femininization of men, masculinization of women, domination by women, open disrespect and vilification of men by society, abuse of women and children, our education system, government and our judicial system are all part of the many ploys and avenues the devil uses to destroy the family. Destroying God's order at the very basic level, in the home, I think is the most devastating. But he even works in churches; not just by the teaching of the wrong things, but failing to teach some of the right things. (1 Peter 4:17)
    4 points
  3. Paul was a missionary and a church planter - yet he still was sent out from the Antioch church, like church planters and missionaries today. Not sure why such a “great and wise Bible teacher” as yourself is so blind he cannot see or acknowledge that basic fact. Maybe you are too puffed up by your supposed knowledge. 1 Corinthians 8:1b Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
    4 points
  4. I rarely post here now, but someone who makes out that he knows everything but makes such a basic, simple mistake, warrants a post. A Single Post. Act 11:25-26 (25) Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: (26) And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. Saul was a the church at Antioch for a full year. From there they went to the church at Jerusalem. Then they returned from Jerusalem Act 12:25 (25) And Barnabas and Saul returned from Jerusalem, when they had fulfilled their ministry, and took with them John, whose surname was Mark. They returned... to Antioch. Where Saul (Paul) was in the church at Antioch and named as one of the preachers. Act 13:1 (1) Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. Then Barnabas and Saul were sent out from...... Antioch. Act 13:2-3 (2) As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. (3) And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. So Barnabas and Saul went out and started a whole bunch of churches, and eventually returned to..... Antioch. Act 14:26-28 (26) And thence sailed to Antioch, from whence they had been recommended to the grace of God for the work which they fulfilled. (27) And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles. (28) And there they abode long time with the disciples. After a time - actually a "long time" at Antioch, they had reason to go to the church at Jerusalem: Act 15:2-3 (2) When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. (3) And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren. And they were "brought on their way by the church" - would this be the church at Antioch that sent them to Jerusalem to figure out the doctrinal issues that had come to their attention? The church that Barnabas and Saul were a part of apparently? After all had a good chat, the church at Jerusalem sent Barnabas and Saul - and a few new mates - back to..... Antioch! of all places.... Then, after they had been back at the church in Antioch for a while, Barnabas and Paul decided to head out and see how the churches they started before were going. Act 15:35-40 (35) Paul also and Barnabas continued in Antioch, teaching and preaching the word of the Lord, with many others also. (36) And some days after Paul said unto Barnabas, Let us go again and visit our brethren in every city where we have preached the word of the Lord, and see how they do. (37) And Barnabas determined to take with them John, whose surname was Mark. (38) But Paul thought not good to take him with them, who departed from them from Pamphylia, and went not with them to the work. (39) And the contention was so sharp between them, that they departed asunder one from the other: and so Barnabas took Mark, and sailed unto Cyprus; (40) And Paul chose Silas, and departed, being recommended by the brethren unto the grace of God. Now of course, Barnabas and Saul had a disagreement, and decided to make two separate journeys, and this time Silas went with Paul - and note that they were recommended by the Brethren - which brethren are we speaking about specifically? I think that would be the brethren at the church of ANTIOCH. Even after this, Paul dropped back in to Antioch: Act 18:22 (22) And when he had landed at Caesarea, and gone up, and saluted the church, he went down to Antioch. The point of this is, that for someone to say that Paul had no "home church" shows either an extraordinary ignorance of the book of Acts, or a wilful misrepresentation of the fact for their own purposes. Of course Paul had a home church - the Church at Antioch is where he served on several occasions, it is the church from which his missionary journeys were based, and it was the church that he returned to at the end of his various missions. To get something so obviously basic incorrect gives reason to doubt his general information. Aside from the fact that he has misquoted verses, indicating that they are KJV when they are clearly not - this is deliberate deceit, and it shows that he knows he is required to use KJV but REFUSES to do so, showing a disrespect for both the Word of God and for this board. And there will be no reply - I will not fuss with an argument on this board (and will likely not even check back for a week or so at best anyway. Say what you will about me - I don't care.)
    4 points
  5. There are some people that do say that. It is not the typical denomination in the sense that IFB's do not have a headquarters dictating to them what to believe, what to preach, what to do. Though we are a denomination in the sense that we are Baptists and are likeminded to many other IFB churches (though not 100% - each studies the Bible on their own and is led by their own leadership, so some conclusions and basic understanding of issues/doctrine may differ).
    3 points
  6. Did You Know?... 666 is (your welcome)
    3 points
  7. Behold is a hyperdispensationalist - probably in the same crowd as Robert Breaker and Gene Kim. They only believe out of the whole Bible that Paul’s letters are applicable to the church - and even if Hebrews was written by Paul, it was written before he got his gospel from God so therefore is not for the church either. So literally they only accept 87 out of the 1189 chapters of the whole Bible! Sad!
    3 points
  8. Nah. The CURRENT meaning is to restock. The original meaning - in old english, as was used for the KJB - is simply "to fill." Not refill nor restock nor fill back up. Plainly and simply, no species existed until God created them as recorded in Gen. 1. Saying otherwise says that death occurred before sin. And that did not happen...the Bible is clear that death came through Adam. Not before. No raging debate here. Just simply knowledge of vocabulary and the fact that words change meaning over time. Just so you understand, this is a discussion board. Refrain from addressing folks as carnal...in order to enjoy so-called "christian forum membership."
    3 points
  9. Calvin simply redefined "God's foreknowledge" as "Predestined", and from that starting point, created a Theology that is both Theological and Spiritual poison. Paul says that the born again, who are fallen from Grace, are "Bewitched" and "WHO has deceived you". A.) John Calvin is one of the worst as his Theology, can take your mind and put it in a dark place so that the Gospel becomes obscure and the Cross become Hidden. John Calvinism is a cancer on the Body of Christ. That's a fact.
    3 points
  10. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    Come, Thou Fount Robert Robinson and John Wyeth 1 Come, Thou Fount of every blessing, Tune my heart to sing Thy grace; Streams of mercy, never ceasing, Call for songs of loudest praise. Teach me some melodious sonnet, Sung by flaming tongues above; Praise the mount I'm fixed upon it Mount of Thy redeeming love. 2 Here I raise mine Ebenezer; Hither by Thy help I'm come; And I hope, by Thy good pleasure, Safely to arrive at home. Jesus sought me when a stranger, Wandering from the fold of God; He, to rescue me from danger, Interposed His precious blood. 3 O to grace how great a debtor Daily I'm constrained to be! Let Thy goodness, like a fetter, Bind my wandering heart to Thee: Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it, Prone to leave the God I love: Here's my heart, O take and seal it; Seal it for Thy courts above.
    2 points
  11. Agree or disagree with the following: "Nondenominational" refers to religious organizations or congregations that do not align themselves with any particular established denomination or sect within a religion. However, despite not affiliating with a specific denomination, nondenominational groups can still be considered a denomination themselves, albeit with some nuances. Here's why: Distinct Identity: Nondenominational churches or religious groups often have their own distinct identity, beliefs, practices, and organizational structures. While they may not adhere to the specific doctrines of a particular denomination, they still form a cohesive group with shared beliefs and practices. Organizational Structure: Although they may not have hierarchical structures like denominations, nondenominational groups often have their own leadership, clergy, and organizational frameworks. They may have local congregations, national headquarters, and sometimes even international networks. Theological Perspectives: While nondenominational groups may claim to be nonsectarian and open to a variety of theological perspectives, they typically have a set of core beliefs or doctrines that distinguish them from other groups. These beliefs may not align precisely with any one denomination but still serve to define the group's identity. Community and Fellowship: Like denominations, nondenominational groups provide a sense of community and fellowship for their members. They often gather for worship, religious education, social activities, and community service, creating a cohesive religious community. Recognition and Affiliation: While nondenominational groups may eschew formal denominational labels, they often seek recognition from legal and regulatory bodies, such as tax-exempt status from government authorities. They may also affiliate with broader networks of nondenominational churches or organizations for support and cooperation. In summary, while nondenominational groups may not fit neatly into traditional denominational categories, they still exhibit many characteristics of denominations, including distinct identity, organizational structure, theological perspectives, community, and recognition. Thus, they can be considered a denomination in their own right, albeit one that emphasizes independence and flexibility in religious practice and belief.
    2 points
  12. Many churches calling themselves non denominational I've seen are very very similar to charismatic Anglicans or Methodists. They say they are non denom yet have almost exactly the same statement of faith as a denomination. Their non denominational idea is not to go back to scripture, but to do things their own way. But then also you can get the rare non-denominational church that just goes by the bible and matches very closely or the same as an IFB church. That's because they have the same stance of letting the bible govern their beliefs.
    2 points
  13. SGO

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    O God, Our Help in Ages Past Isaac Watts and William Croft 1 Our God, our Help in ages past, our Hope for years to come, our Shelter from the stormy blast, and our eternal Home. 2 Under the shadow of Thy throne Thy saints have dwelt secure; sufficient is Thine arm alone, and our defense is sure. 3 Before the hills in order stood or earth received its frame, from everlasting Thou art God, to endless years the same. 4 A thousand ages in Thy sight are like an ev'ning gone, short as the watch that ends the night before the rising sun. 5 Time, like an ever-rolling stream, bears all its sons away; they fly forgotten, as a dream dies at the op'ning day. 6 Our God, our Help in ages past, our Hope for years to come, be Thou our Guide while life shall last, and our eternal Home!
    2 points
  14. SGO

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    Be Still, My Soul Katharina von Schlegel and Jean Sibelius 1 Be still, my soul: the Lord is on thy side; Bear patiently the cross of grief or pain; Leave to thy God to order and provide; In ev'ry change He faithful will remain. Be still, my soul: thy best, thy heav'nly Friend Thro' thorny ways leads to a joyful end. 2 Be still, my soul: thy God doth undertake To guide the future as He has the past. Thy hope, thy confidence let nothing shake; All now mysterious shall be bright at last. Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below. 3 Be still, my soul: the hour is hast'ning on When we shall be forever with the Lord, When disappointment, grief, and fear are gone, Sorrow forgot, love's purest joys restored. Be still, my soul: when change and tears are past, All safe and blessed we shall meet at last.
    2 points
  15. SGO

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    Come, Thou Almighty King Unknown, Felice de Giardini 1 Come, Thou Almighty King, Help us Thy name to sing, Help us to praise: Father, all-glorious, O'er all victorious, Come, and reign over us, Ancient of Days. 2 Come, Thou Incarnate Word, Gird on Thy mighty sword, Our prayer attend: Come, and Thy people bless, And give Thy word success: Spirit of holiness, On us descend. 3 Come, Holy Comforter, Thy sacred witness bear In this glad hour: Thou who almighty art, Now rule in ev'ry heart, And ne'er from us depart, Spirit of pow'r. 4 To the great One in Three Eternal praises be Hence, evermore! His sov'reign majesty May we in glory see, And to eternity Love and adore!
    2 points
  16. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    Saviour, Like a Shepherd Lead Us Dorothy A. Thrupp and William B. Bradbury 1 Saviour, like a shepherd lead us, Much we need Thy tender care; In Thy pleasant pastures feed us, For our use Thy folds prepare: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast bought us, Thine we are; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast bought us, Thine we are. 2 We are Thine; do Thou befriend us, Be the Guardian of our way; Keep Thy flock, from sin defend us, Seek us when we go astray: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Hear, O hear us when we pray; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Hear, O hear us when we pray. 3 Thou hast promised to receive us, Poor and sinful tho' we be; Thou hast mercy to relieve us, Grace to cleanse, and pow'r to free: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Early let us turn to Thee; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Early let us turn to Thee. 4 Early let us seek Thy favor; Early let us do Thy will; Blessed Lord and only Saviour, With Thy love our bosoms fill: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast loved us, love us still; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast loved us, love us still.
    2 points
  17. For the last few years, the Berean Call has made various ebooks and tracts/pamphlets by Dave Hunt and others at the Berean Call available for free download. I do not endorse everything about Dave Hunt, but he is one of the best out there for exposing doctrinal and practical corruption in modern Christendom. There are two official sites that I am aware of that are offering some of their material for free downloads: Shop | The Berean Call This one you will need to create an account (name, address, does not ask for any payment info because these materials are free) and add the free ebooks you are interested in to your basket (if given the choice, choose pdf as devices and ereaders (and webpages) can handle that, some of the other options like epub are only usable with a specific program, so I don't recommend that, unless you know it is what you need). They will send you a receipt (for $0), then in a separate email the download link (this could come an hour or two later). The Official Store of The Berean Call – TBC Store (davehunt.org) This site does not need a login, and as soon as you checkout, it goes to the page you can download the ebook. I would check both sites, as not all their products overlap. Yesterday, I saw Occult Invasion for free. This is a basically 500 page book that I had read some of a couple of years ago. Glad to see it here now. Of course, download any and all that you are interested in. Some of the other good ones they have available now are: What Love Is This? (book exposing Calvinism), Judgment Day (on Israel and the Middle East), Showtime For the Sheep (the danger of Hollywood depictions of Jesus), Newsletter Reprints (this is every one of their monthly newsletters that are available since the ministry started in 1986, updated every year with the previous year added - contains a TOC and an index of subjects). I think Mind Invaders and Sanctuary of the Chosen are both fiction, exposing the occult, etc. I would suggest at least downloading all the books, if not the tracts or the pamphlets.
    2 points
  18. SGO

    Nose

    This is a Baptist news section. If you are looking for discussions or typing something short, please use the community forums What do you call a nose with no body? Nobody knows.
    2 points
  19. Yup, ALL the NT epistles/books give us doctrine. Why hyperfocus on Paul? He’s not the only NT writer either.
    2 points
  20. I go to scripture as a whole. Not just to the Pauline Epistles. Remember that... comparing scripture to scripture.
    2 points
  21. I don't think so... and your condescending attitude towards me and others on this site, including the administrator is wearing. This IS NOT KJV. It's an improvisation. You know the rules of this site, yet you continue to violate them. Yes, we are ALL in the time of the gentiles. Paul was not the only person giving doctrine to the church. It seems that the fact that there were other apostles preaching the Gospel and instructing the church. I'm pretty sure most Christians understand that once they are saved they are a new creation and that God extended this grace to us. You use the terminology "real Baptist." I believe most here ARE "real Baptists." And to the other disciples as well. The only difference was that Paul was sent to the Gentiles. You seem to place far too much emphasis on Paul's ministry. Yes, he did write much of the New Testament, but, he is not the only apostle, nor are his writings alone. ME? Nobody else? Don't you mean "US?" Yes he did say "my gospel." And yet if you look at the Bible as a whole, as it dovetails together, his gospel IS NOT alone. And who is preaching or teaching any other gospel? Certainly not I. Just a final word to you from me. I don't know how others here appreciate being talked down to, and especially when it is done with the haughty spirit you seem to show towards others here. You, sir, are not my teacher, nor my pastor. You've made a "grand entrance" onto this site with what seems to be a mission of telling us that we don't know our Bible, the gospel, and have even seemed to intimate that I am teaching another gospel. You're pompous, arrogant and self-righteous. If you continue to address me in the manner you have been, I will not hesitate to respond. All this being said, I hope you have a nice day.
    2 points
  22. This is the verse from the KJv: 1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. If you do not have easy access to a Bible program you can copy/paste from, try this site: https://www.blueletterbible.org
    2 points
  23. Jerry

    2nd Corinthians 5:20

    "BE" does not mean "believe." I get the point you are making but you are giving an unbiblical definition of a word (and one not found in any dictionary either).
    2 points
  24. That is correct. the English language is constantly changing. Back in 1611 the word "Replenish" meant "to fill", and today in 2024 it means to restock.
    2 points
  25. Can you please use Scripture when posting a Biblical lesson? Otherwise it is just your opinion?
    2 points
  26. Nothing unbiblical with the term denomination and of course Denomination does not equal Salvation, it's just a set of theological beliefs. What is your definition of Denomination? I think you are confused by the definition of denomination.
    2 points
  27. I would simply say -- The husband is the "head" of his wife in the same manner that Christ is the "Head" of the church. However that might apply for Christ in relation to the church must have a similar application for the husband in relation to his wife. So, is Christ just a "spiritual leader" for the church; or is Christ the "boss" of the church?
    2 points
  28. I know a woman who would fit this category...her husband was a pastor (he's in Glory now). They had several kids (5 or 6, 1 girl the rest boys). I had several chats with one of the sons who himself is a pastor. Most of the children have nothing to do with her because of the way she was while they were growing up...I will not go into detail, but trust me that "odious" and "brawling" are apropos. Anyway...two of the kids (one being the daughter) are serving the Lord and have healthy marriages. The rest do not. This son told me that he learned about marriage from his dad, who he believes taught him - by his actions - just exactly what loving one's wife should be, regardless of how the wife is. I thought that was both the greatest compliment he could give his dad and the saddest thing ever. I agree that both parents are responsible. I do think that, because God placed man as the head, he has more of a burden. But I also believe that, once said child hits adulthood it is completely on that child to choose to do right. I've known many through the years who have served the Lord with all their hearts, even though they got NO teaching/encouragement from home to do so - whether from mom or dad. That said, I think our young people need to have it impressed upon them the seriousness of having one or more eternal beings to nurture. I thank God often for the way my son and dil are raising their son (and will do with others if/as God sends them). Asher will be the one to make the choice whether or not he will submit to God. But he's got great parents to lead the way. (his Grandpa D's no slouch, either heehee)
    2 points
  29. Then this.... Looking in from the outside (not involved in the thread), it did not seem to come across respectful. Just my opinion. Sir, you did....
    2 points
  30. You brought nothing to the table? Sorry if I did not achieve your elite status. Quit trying to make all the Bible fit your false teachings. The Holy Spirit convicts people of their sin, enlightens them to the truth of the Gospel and who Jesus Christ is - He doesn't force or make them believe. Also, being dead spiritually is not the same thing as being dead physically. It means separation - a spiritually dead person is separated from the Lord God until they receive/respond to the Gospel. If being spiritually dead meant man could not do ANYTHING, then man could not even sin - a physically dead body just lies there, unresponsive, neither sinning, speaking or literally doing anything. If being spiritually dead meant mankind was unable to first respond to the preaching of the Gospel, then become regenerated afterwards by grace through faith (by the work of the Holy Spirit), then how do YOU reconcile this verse: John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. It doesn't say those who are alive will hear Jesus' voice, but those who are dead. Calvinism puts the cart before the horse and preaches a double regeneration - first a regeneration to be enabled to respond, then regenerating again to be born again - but that means a true believer needs to be born again again - but you won't find THAT in the Bible! John 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. When man responds positively to the work of conviction and enlightening of the Holy Spirit, then He regenerates them. We do not regenerate ourselves - neither does the Lord God regenerate man without man responding to their need for sin and righteousness, and turning to the Saviour. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Wait, according to your theology, how many gifts does God give man in regards to salvation? Here, it very clearly says the gift of God is eternal life, not faith. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. He gave His Son, and those who received Him (John 1:12) get eternal life - same thing, salvation through believing the Saviour is the gift.
    2 points
  31. You just labelled two FALSE religions/CULTS as Christian denominations. And those two DO teach a different gospel, a different Jesus, etc; therefore they are not of God and to be warned against and exposed. Also, there were denominations in Jesus' day (in the NT). The NT word used is SECT. Look it up. Jesus didn't condemn someone for being part of a sext/denomination or identifying themselves as a Christian, as a follower of the way, as a brethren, as a Jewish proselyte, etc - but He condemned where those specific denominations added to or took away from the Word of God. Yes, some denominations AND ALL cults started because some men or women wanted to add their own beliefs and practices to what God has said in His Word - YET, there are others that were clearly led of God and were formed because they stood upon the Word of God and separated from and exposed the error of other denominations or cults and religions - which the Bible tells us to do. God is not for unity at the sake of truth. In fact there are various passages that He tells us He came to bring a sword to separate the light from the darkness, the false brethren from the true. By the way, Baptists (anabaptists, Waldensians, and others of a like nature) were historically for the truth and against the error of their days, and many died for standing alone on the Word of God. The false brethren were the ones persecuting them and killing them and slandering them and giving them their names (anabaptist). God preserved His Word historically through these remnant groups. (I say historically because many no longer stand where they once stood - but that does not negate their history or make it irrelevant. I proclaim myself as an INDEPENDENT FUNDAMENTAL BAPTIST because: 1. Independent - I believe in the autonomy of the local church - yes, my church may have similarities to many other Baptist churches, but we are not a denomination in the sense that some group or church somewhere has authority over us and dictates what we believe or practice. 2. Fundamental - I believe that the FUNDAMENTALS of the faith are necessary for salvation and for someone to be identified as a true NT Bible believer/church. I also hold to all the Baptist Distinctives, which separates me in some sense from all other "Christian" groups, true or false, that only embrace some of them. 3. Baptist - It's an identification for others to be able to find believers of a like mind. Everything I see in the Bible, especially in the NT, tells me to dig into the Bible, study it, rightly divide it, then hold with all my heart to what I believe it teaches. That is the type of believer God promises to bless - not the one who is willing to cast the truth aside for the sake of some ecumenical unity.
    2 points
  32. Adrian Rogers was a great preacher.
    2 points
  33. With all these lawsuits and troubles, I don’t know if he’s gonna make it to the end.
    1 point
  34. SGO

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    Standing On The Promises Russell K. Carter 1 Standing on the promises of Christ my king, through eternal ages let his praises ring; glory in the highest, I will shout and sing, standing on the promises of God. CHORUS Standing, standing, standing on the promises of God my Savior; standing, standing, I’m standing on the promises of God. 2 Standing on the promises that cannot fail, when the howling storms of doubt and fear assail, by the living Word of God I shall prevail, standing on the promises of God. CHORUS 3 Standing on the promises of Christ the Lord, bound to him eternally by love’s strong cord, overcoming daily with the Spirit’s sword, standing on the promises of God. CHORUS 4 Standing on the promises I cannot fall, listening every moment to the Spirit’s call, resting in my Savior as my all in all, standing on the promises of God. CHORUS
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  35. SGO

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    Be Thou My Vision Dallan Forgaill 1 Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart; Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art; Thou my best Thought, by day or by night, Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light. 2 Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word; I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord; Thou my great Father, I Thy true son; Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one. 3 Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight; Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight; Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tow’r: Raise Thou me heav’nward, O Pow’r of my pow’r. 4 Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise, Thou mine Inheritance, now and always: Thou and Thou only, first in my heart, High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art. 5 High King of Heaven, my victory won, May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heav’n’s Sun! Heart of my own heart, whatever befall, Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
    1 point
  36. SGO

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    How Great Thou Art Carl Bobert 1 O Lord my God, When I in awesome wonder, Consider all the worlds Thy Hands have made; I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder, Thy power throughout the universe displayed. CHORUS Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee, How great Thou art, How great Thou art. Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee, How great Thou art, How great Thou art! 2 When through the woods, and forest glades I wander, And hear the birds sing sweetly in the trees. When I look down, from lofty mountain grandeur And see the brook, and feel the gentle breeze. CHORUS 3Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee, How great Thou art, How great Thou art. Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee, How great Thou art, How great Thou art! CHORUS 4 And when I think, that God, His Son not sparing; Sent Him to die, I scarce can take it in; That on the Cross, my burden gladly bearing, He bled and died to take away my sin. CHORUS 5 When Christ shall come, with shout of acclamation, And take me home, what joy shall fill my heart. Then I shall bow, in humble adoration, And then proclaim: "My God, how great Thou art!" CHORUS
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  37. SGO

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    When I Survey the Wondrous Cross Isaac Watts and Edward Miller 1 When I survey the wondrous cross On which the Prince of glory died, My richest gain I count but loss, And pour contempt on all my pride. 2 Forbid it, Lord, that I should boast, Save in the death of Christ my God! All the vain things that charm me most, I sacrifice them to His blood. 3 See from His head, His hands, His feet, Sorrow and love flow mingled down! Did e'er such love and sorrow meet, Or thorns compose so rich a crown? 4 His dying crimson, like a robe, Spreads o'er His body on the tree; Then I am dead to all the globe, And all the globe is dead to me. 5 Were the whole realm of nature mine, That were a present far too small; Love so amazing, so divine, Demands my soul, my life, my all.
    1 point
  38. Agree. The "non-denominational" I attended was basically Baptist in faith and practice. Maybe not IFB Baptist since there was CCM. The difference is they didn't have a Statement of Faith outside of "Jesus Saves". Some would think they weren't even a church since they weren't Baptists.
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  39. I will clarify, it is hyperdispensationalists doing what you said (not dispensationalists overall). Being a dispensationalist is Biblical - this is an acknowledgement that God had different rules and ways of working in different periods of man's history. That is literally what dispensations are - the word means house laws. In the Garden of Eden (what is often referred to as the age of innocence), the only command they had was not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then was what is often referred to as the age of conscience. Later, Noah built and ark and the new inhabitants were under human government now (not directly governed by God), later there was the period of the patriarchs and the promises of God, then the period of the Law, now we are in the church age/grace - one salvation, but different commands on how we are to live, different levels of knowledge, next will be the Day of the Lord (including the tribulation period and the Millennium/the kingdom age), then eternity. Don't worry about the names, they are just for clarification and identification. The takeawy is that there are seven or eight distinct clear ages or period in man's history where God dealt with them differently - all failed or will fail, except eternity, where only true regenerated and immortal (ie. no longer mortal, sinful bodes) believers dwell in the presence of God. Ephesians gets into the dispensations or ages - so it is a Biblical concept. The problem comes when hyperdispensationalist come to divide the history of man in ways the Bible does not (ie. different salvation, this or that part of the Bible ONLY for that time period - not taking into account certain things being types which were later fulfilled or ceremonial things, etc. Also, some may differ on exact time periods or details of some aspect of a dispensation (such as what you mentioned above about the exact start of the church), but that is why we need to rightly divide the Word of God and not throw out or reject Biblical concepts because some have gone overboard on something. Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: Dispensation is: "oikonomía, (which is literal laws of the house - nomia laws, oikos house) from G3623; administration (of a household or estate); specially, a (religious) "economy":—dispensation, stewardship. This exact form of the word is used seven times in the NT (1 listed above and 6 below - I don't know if there are more right now as I am just giving a quick reply - but there are other passages and terms used to teach this principle): Luke 16:2 And he called him, and said unto him, How is it that I hear this of thee? give an account of thy stewardship; for thou mayest be no longer steward. Luke 16:3 Then the steward said within himself, What shall I do? for my lord taketh away from me the stewardship: I cannot dig; to beg I am ashamed. Luke 16:4 I am resolved what to do, that, when I am put out of the stewardship, they may receive me into their houses. 1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; If necessary, we can start a thread to give further info/discussion on this.
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  40. You are right, Dave. Like missionaries and evangelists today, Paul had his own sending church - and it was Antioch.
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  41. All of the books of the Bible are Scripture - from the OT prophets, to the Law, to the Psalms, to the NT books and epistles. Peter’s (and James’, and John’s, and Jude’s) are just as much Scripture as Paul’s - and are just as applicable to the church as Paul’s. Only a hyper-dispensationalist (which is extreme false teaching) would say otherwise. Each NT epistle has a different focus, not different doctrine.
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  42. Jesus does not mind? Sorry, the Bible commands us not to make images of God/Jesus - so yes, God does mind if you promote idolatry. I know it’s off topic - but I feel very strongly against the promoting of any kind of sin. Someone who creates idols/images of Jesus in disobedience to His Word doesn’t love Him very much… I won’t say any more about that in respect to the overall theme of this thread, but just because you accept something doesn’t make it right. You should be contending for ALL the Word of God, not picking and choosing which parts you like.
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  43. It shouldn't be... turning to "witch doctors", servants of seducing spirits, is NEVER acceptable according to the Bible.
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  44. Wow. There are all kinds of things flying around on this topic throughout this thread. Interesting indeed. Rather than cause most to overlook my posts on account of them being too long to draw attention, I'll try to keep my points short for brevity and ease of reading: The first thing that occurred to me is Revelation itself. The Church is mentioned numerous time throughout the first three chapters, with the Church pictured in Heaven in the fourth chapter. Strangely, as if the Church had lost its importance for any mention whatsoever, there is not one mention of the Church through any of the chapters that cover the Tribulation events. Not one mention in chapters 6 through 19. Dare we look at this silence for mention with a critical eye, apart from the "saints" being mentioned, there is another image within Revelation that sets the Tribulation saints apart from the Church...the Tribulation martyrs do not have crowns on their heads as does the Church and the OT saints from before the cross. Instead, what they have are white robes and palm branches in their hands. I've seen Anderson's videos and pulpit pounding antics for emphasis, but I've noticed some flaws in his reasoning...but that is another item altogether. I have other things I could bring up from an older thread on this site dating back to 2010 about the children and babies before the "point of accountability" argument, but will save those items for another post. Jr
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  45. Woke is an odd word—and not just because it is a past tense verb that is now commonly used as an adjective. It’s odd because it has vague connotations without clear definitions. This ambiguity allows those who appreciate the word’s implications to write off those who criticize its implications as “just not understanding its meaning.” In conversations like this, clarity is always our friend. That’s why I was thankful when someone from our Sheriff’s Department recently asked me what I meant in using the word woke. This individual is not a believer, and I was happy to answer his question from a Christian perspective. Below is a lightly-edited copy of the letter that I wrote him. I thought it may be helpful to readers of this blog who have similar conversations with law enforcement or others who are seeking clarity on our concerns over the radical changes in our society that are being furthered under the banner of wokism. Thanks for asking about the definition of “woke.” I wasn’t sure if the question was asked personally or on behalf of the Sheriff, but I am happy to share a few thoughts. Many of us had never heard the term woke until a few years ago. Prior to that time, it was used simply to describe people who felt awakened to the injustices of racism. In recent years, however, it seems the word has been highjacked by political activists who are often far-left or socialistic in their views and have a larger agenda in mind than standing against racism. Although I cannot in this short space define the whole woke philosophy as is commonly applied today, I can point out a few frequently used terms and highlight some of their implications. Social Justice: This is a broad term that often defeats the principles of “equal justice under the law.” Social justice focuses on enforcing equal outcomes for everyone. In this way, it leans into socialism. And amazingly, “social justice” doesn’t bring justice to the average citizen, as it focuses on groups rather than on individuals’ misconduct or good accomplishments. The end result, as philosopher Friedrich Hayek observed, is that people must be treated unequally in order to create equal outcomes: “And that’s what social justice amounts to. It’s a demand that the state should treat people differently in order to place them in the same position. . . .To make people equal a goal of governmental policy would force government to treat people very unequally indeed.” Critical Race Theory (CRT): Under the guise of exposing racism, CRT actually suggests a reverse racism by insisting that the color of one’s skin determines whether or not he or she is racist. As one author explained, “Even if a white person has never had a genuinely racist thought…he is still a racist, white supremacist, because he is white and belongs to the majority” (Ronnie W. Rogers, “Understanding the Terms…” blog post). This kind of insistence on seeing everything through the lens of race brings division to communities. LGBTQ Promotion: For many years, the LGBTQ movement has sought to align with the woke activists to gain influence, and that strategy is working. Woke activists aggressively promote sexual behavior and lifestyles through celebrations and legislation with new laws and vocabulary introduced regularly (cisgender, transgender, cultural appropriation, intersectionality, conscious capitalism, etc.). They have enshrined these numerous terms which are now being forced upon the public. The woke agenda also belittles the nuclear, or biblical, family model. Yet strong families are a strength in any society. While claiming to be marginalized, the woke and LBGTQ lobbies in this state are well-represented in government positions and dominant in political circles. Most concerningly, they are now targeting children and prohibiting parents and teachers from speaking up. For instance, CA Bill AB 957 which was put before the California legislature and passed both houses before being vetoed by the governor, said a non-consenting parent of an under-aged child would lose custody if that parent refused a mastectomy or castration (sex re-assignment surgery) for his or her child. Only the “gender affirming” parent is deemed fit to parent a child who may actually be suffering from dysphoria. Additionally, teachers have been fired from their jobs for refusing to go along with these new ideals. (One local example is Jessica Tapias, a teacher in Riverside County, who was fired just this year for refusing to hide gender transitions from parents of young children.) Economic Equity: This aims to reduce the income gap between the poor and middle class—not by increasing economic opportunity for minority groups, but by taking from the middle class by way of taxes and/or not prosecuting theft. Wealth redistribution is a common theme in woke literature. Again, this is a very high-end summary, and more could be said. But the larger point is that, while every American should stand against racism, wokism actually focuses on emphasizing differences between race and seems to have an end agenda of the disruption of society. In particular, it leads to concerning philosophies as it relates to law enforcement. The interpretation of social justice by woke activists has led to practices such as zero-bail policies, refusing to prosecute crime, and large-scale defunding of and/or disrespect for law enforcement. These policies, which are supported by left-leaning financiers such as George Soros and others, have been adopted by the Los Angeles District Attorney. The training of these policies has been disseminated throughout Southern Californian governmental agencies. What has been the result? Increase in crime Igniting class and race warfare Discouragement and apathy among law enforcement, including many LA County deputies For instance, another bill recently passed the California legislature (AB 852) that requires judges to base their sentencing on race, rather than on crime. The essence of the bill is that someone who is a minority should not be prosecuted to the same extent as someone who is Caucasian because of past injustices. This is the actual opposite of Martin Luther King Jr.’s aspiration that people “not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” The woke philosophy applied to law enforcement has essentially emboldened the criminal element of communities. No doubt, you have seen this with grab-and-go robberies of high-end stores and hit and run accidents. In places where the criminal element of a community is emboldened, the rank-and-file deputies as well as law enforcement in general have become discouraged. I know the citizens of the Antelope Valley as well as anyone, and I can tell you they are discouraged by the emboldened attitude of those who run red lights, commit robbery, and worse. As a pastor of thirty-seven years here in Los Angeles County, I care about the safety of our citizens and the wellbeing of our law enforcement community. I am concerned to see crime on the rise and criminals emboldened. I’m saddened, too, to see these issues tied to race. I’ve preached here in our community for nearly four decades against racism, and I know that all people are made in the image of God. Theologically and biblically, I believe that all humans fall short of God’s perfection (Romans 3:23). None of us are better than others. We have all broken God’s law, and we all need redemption through the finished work of Christ for us (Romans 6:23). Whoever calls to God, acknowledges his or her sin, and receives Christ as Savior may have forgiveness and peace with God. I realize this last point is another, although related, topic. But I am happy to discuss it with you at some point in time. I realize there is political pressure because many woke activists are political donors. Yet, I believe the Sheriff’s Department must not be guided by the woke agenda, but by the law. Without law and order, nothing else works in society. Certainly, our new Captain in Lancaster or anyone in the department should be advanced based on integrity, respect, leadership, and a history of good policing. They should not be affirmed because of adherence to a particular dogma such as “wokism.” Thank you for your service to our community. Please know that I am here to help you and our law enforcement community in any way that I can. Your Friend, Paul Chappell P. S. I’m happy to provide additional resources on wokism and woke interpretations of social justice if these would be a help to you. A few that may be a help are Fault Lines by Voddie Baucham Jr. and Woke, Inc. by Vivek Ramaswamy. I have written a minibook on this topic titled Which Justice? which I would be glad to send you. View the full article
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  46. Dr Sexton passed do to complications from a brain injury which he suffered back in August of last year in a fall, although doctors didnt catch the injury for several months. This is according to his wife Evelyn.
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  47. The Bible talks more about our responsibilities than our rights. To my understanding, rights are what we think/believe others owe us - responsibilities are what we owe to God and others. This is not stated to be argumentative, but for consideration (and because I don't have perfect memory of all the Bible), is not the emphasis in Scripture to do what we know to be right towards others (in obedience to God and His Word), rather than expecting others to be a certain way towards us? For example, there are commands for parents and commands for their children - but I do not think we ever find a command for the children to expect or demand certain things from their parents, wives from their husbands and vice versa - but rather commands of how THEY are to be and conduct themselves. Yes, it is sad when a parent does not follow God in regards to their children, children to their parents, bosses to their employees, and vice versa, etc. - but that is why we are to rely on the Lord when others do not do right towards us, trusting that the Lord will work it all out for our good and will one day make it right. I think that our only rights are to claim what God has promised to His children - not what we think others should do or be towards us.** **I am adding this by way of comparison: I have some family in the States who will not obey certain things in the Bible - because they feel their "rights" as US citizens are more important than their responsibilities towards God and His Word - yet we are accountable to what God has said and commanded more than what man has said or commanded (if they are not the same in a particular instance). We ought to obey God (rather than men), and seek to do His will, regardless of what rights others think we owe them (and yes, if God's Word commands us to act/behave a certain way as believers and citizens of Heaven, we should strive for that, trusting the Lord when others do not do the same towards us).
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  48. Having posted above, my ponderings on the matter continued. Thus I present some further thoughts: We often teach our men that some of the most important phrases for a happy home are - Yes, dear; I was wrong, dear; whatever you want, dear. Then we wonder why we have no male leadership in our homes. We say things like - Happy wife, happy life. But is this universally true. What if making my wife happy makes my God unhappy? Will that result in a happy life? Well, it might in the short term; but it definitely will not in the long term. Adam made his wife "happy" when he chose to eat the fruit with her. Did it result in a "happy life?" Not for him, nor for the rest humanity either. Abraham made his wife "happy" when he took her advise to beget a child by Hagar. Did it result in a "happy life?" Not really for him, for her, or for the Middle East unto the present day.
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  49. What did Trump do on Jan 6th?
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