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  1. A bit earlier this morning, my pastor Randy Hoxie (Faith Baptist Church in Chilliwack, BC) had a heart attack and is undergoing surgery in a hospital in Vancouver right now. Please pray for the blockage to be removed and for the Lord to heal his heart (with no complications). Thank you in advance for any prayers.
    5 points
  2. The arguments given here against Calvinism are profound, and scripturally true. But I am a simple man and to me it all boils down to a very simple argument and verse. If Calvinism is true, then God deliberately creates THIS person for Heaven and then He deliberately creates THAT person for hell. 1 John 4:8 tells us that God is love. I'm sure that person that the Calvinistic god deliberately created for hell sure sees the Calvinistic god as love. I just cannot cross over that very simple hurdle. And no Calvinistic argument can change my mind. God is love. And He wants to share that love with whosever will. My loving God has NEVER created anyone for hell. If that is where you end up it was entirely your choice.
    5 points
  3. If she was teaching a class to other women and/children (or teens), that is okay - but not if she was teaching a class with men in it. This is referring to a political leader specifically, but when women and children lead a country, it is a sign of judgement of God on that nation. Isaiah 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
    5 points
  4. JennyTressler

    Prayer Request

    A couple of months ago, I reunited with a childhood friend, Ron, who I became emotionally close to (no physical contact, which he respected).I began to share my faith in Christ with him, and he was open to it, but then suddenly after he admitted some skeletons from his past, he shut down and decided he couldn't live up to the man he wanted to be for me. He took off and I never heard from him again. I emailed him, but he ignored. I miss him very much.
    4 points
  5. The devil hates and wants to destroy the family. Feminism, Femininization of men, masculinization of women, domination by women, open disrespect and vilification of men by society, abuse of women and children, our education system, government and our judicial system are all part of the many ploys and avenues the devil uses to destroy the family. Destroying God's order at the very basic level, in the home, I think is the most devastating. But he even works in churches; not just by the teaching of the wrong things, but failing to teach some of the right things. (1 Peter 4:17)
    4 points
  6. Last year I was diagnosed with Autism at 42, and I’ve also been suffering with Major depressive disorder and anxiety. I have been unable to hold a job and make a living for my entire life and am now awaiting a decision about Disability Insurance. God has always provided for me financially. I pray that my Disability decision is approved quickly that I may receive the finances I need for my living. IN Him, Amen.
    3 points
  7. Deuteronomy 30:19 says..... 19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: So, why did God(same God) give people the option to "choose" life if He already has made the choice for them?
    3 points
  8. Belief was totally selfish, on my part. I don't see how Calvinists can say our belief is 'taking credit" for salvation; unless they have never really been saved themselves.
    3 points
  9. Poor Calvinist...they are forced to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ outside of their will. However, I willingly do it.
    3 points
  10. How arrogant to think that you - a Calvinist - have everything right and can come here and tell non-Calvinists how wrong they are. Romans 9 is dealing with nations, not individuals.
    3 points
  11. Salvation being 100% of God doesn’t negate man’s response - and that’s where they get it wrong. The Holy Spirit enlightens us to the truth; convicts us of our sin, our unrighteousness, and our need for the Saviour, enables us to understand the truth of who Jesus is and what He has done to save us, and shows us that salvation is not something that can be earned through anything we can do. Man responds either positively or negatively to this. If we receive the truth by receiving the Saviour and His free gift of salvation, the Holy Spirit then regenerates and indwells us, we are adopted into the family of God, given an inheritance in Christ and a future home in Heaven. That’s all by His grace - but we need to receive it, and God doesn’t force man to believe or be saved. That is up to us - and yes, He even calls and compels us - but we still need to receive the Gospel to be saved.
    3 points
  12. There are some people that do say that. It is not the typical denomination in the sense that IFB's do not have a headquarters dictating to them what to believe, what to preach, what to do. Though we are a denomination in the sense that we are Baptists and are likeminded to many other IFB churches (though not 100% - each studies the Bible on their own and is led by their own leadership, so some conclusions and basic understanding of issues/doctrine may differ).
    3 points
  13. I've NEVER been able to understand how people could fall for the tripe that is Calvinism.
    2 points
  14. Calvinists: God is a jealous God. In fact he is so jealous that he creates some people to be predestined to worship other gods.
    2 points
  15. Actually, you are dead wrong and teaching falsehood. The Bible teaches repentance from sin and repentance are both necessary for faith. Again, with the straw men. Repentance is not cleaning up your life - it is changing your mind about your sin and turning from it in your heart. If it is true repentance, it WILL reflect in the life - but the changed life is the result of true repentance, not the repentance itself. Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. If repentance was turning from unbelief, then that verse above would not make sense: believe so you can believe. Matthew 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: Luke 17:3-4 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him. Oh, it's ok, brother, you sinned against me, but now you believe, so we are all good (though you never made that sin right, hm). Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. God is not going to wipe away your sin until you repent of that sin. Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; Hm, same idea here. Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. Acts 8:22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. Repent of your UNBel... wait, wickedness! Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. Um, believe and believe? Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. 2 Corinthians 12:21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed. Here, Paul is talking to believers - but the word means the same, and it is not repent of unbelief, but of specific sins. Revelation 2:21-22 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. Revelation 9:20-21 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. Six examples of UNBELIEF they were to repent of!! Oh wait, those are examples of specific sins... Doh!!
    2 points
  16. I am sorry I forgot to post an update. He came home from the hospital last night, and is doing much better. I almost wrote "He went home last night" - but thought that might not be the best way to word it!
    2 points
  17. Once again, I’m a simple man and there are just some very simple hurdles I cannot get over to carry me into a Calvinist mindset. Throughout the Bible following God and salvation are given as choices, not a foregone conclusion already settled by God; and I’m not even touching on all the “whosoever” verses that infer choice. Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. From the very beginning Adam and Eve were given a choice. They did not have to eat that fruit. Unfortunately man has been making poor choices ever since. Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:22 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye are witnesses against yourselves that ye have chosen you the LORD, to serve him. And they said, We are witnesses. YE have chosen??? Huh. Not God has chosen? That’s odd if it’s all predetermined. 1 Kings 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word. Here is a choice between two opinions. Elijah asks them to choose. Psalms 119:30 I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me. David chose the way of truth. Interesting. Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Trust in the Lord, or lean on our own understanding. If we trust in the Lord He will direct our paths. That is a choice we must make. Matthew 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Why did Jesus mention a choice of two gates if it was already predetermined which gate each person would take? Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. IF???? How could Jesus possibly say IF if our salvation status is predetermined. Why would God’s word make so many references to our choosing to follow Him if it is all predetermined? Is God deceiving us? I can’t, and won’t, believe that; so I must believe that we do indeed have a choice. We can choose the straight gate of salvation, or the wide gate of destruction. Sounds pretty simple to me. My oldest son is 33 years old. For a good part of his life (since he was five until he went in the Navy at 17) he had gone to solid Bible believing churches and been fed sound doctrine there and at home. Early on he professed to be saved, but it was not true. It wasn’t long into his Navy life that he came home and told us what we already surmised: he was not saved. Since that time, he went to college and graduated Summa Cum Laude with a degree in chemistry. Obviously, being in the sciences, he was inundated with all the evolutionary arguments and led away from any possibility of a creation account. That along with his philosophy courses and a period of time when he deliberately read nothing but books that spoke against there being a god (Dawkins, Nietzsche, and others), has made him someone who on the surface seems an Atheist. But is he, or is he just kicking against the pricks? For one, he knows the Bible better than many Christians I know. He also knows the Quran quite well and has these two, along with other spiritual books, prominent on his reference shelf at home (right among his science books). He has a strong Christian ethic and behaviors. I often refer to him as the best unsaved Christian you could ever meet. Train up a child in the way he should go… His ex-wife went off the deep end and left him 1 ½ years ago and for a short period of time he went to his counselor's 7th Day Adventist church hoping to find peace and comfort. He could not continue with that because he knows the Bible too well and couldn’t buy what they were selling. He has rejected offers to come to our church. My personal belief is because he knows he’ll be brought closer to God than he is ready for. I say all this first in the hopes that many here will pray for my son, Jacob. That he will choose Christ and get saved. Secondly, to show that God has been calling my son and he has been rejecting that call. Jacob is obviously searching to fill a spiritual hole within himself, but has been choosing to spiritually go the way of the world. I do not believe he is predestined for hell or for heaven. I believe God is calling him. The CHOICE is his. Please pray with me that he makes the right choice before it is too late.
    2 points
  18. If Biden ever even references a Bible it is probably Das Kapital.
    2 points
  19. SGO

    Short Ones

    What is the difference between a well dressed man on a bicycle and a poorly dressed man on a unicycle? Attire.
    2 points
  20. He is doing better but still in icu probably for several more days.
    2 points
  21. Belief is not defined in the Bible as any kind of work (in fact it is the opposite). It is a response on our part to what God has done and said.
    2 points
  22. Calvinists always seem to try this tripe trying to make "spiritual death", ie, spiritual separation from God, mean the same thing as physical death...not even comparable. Spiritual separation from God, or "spiritually dead" isn't anywhere near the same. Salvation, even in the Calvinist ideology, requires a decision...but, of course, through the In the Calvinist interpretation, we find that this decision has already been made for the participant "from before the foundation of the world." This isn't a "decision" but a forceful bringing into Christianity. It negates over 50% of Scripture concerning salvation.
    2 points
  23. You're entitled to your opinion. It sometimes seems like you just want to diss anything and everything and one you can. Do you EVER post anything positive? Gay marriage is already legal, no matter how sickening it is. Many Republicans are already in support of this and other whether anyone likes it or not. The party has continued to move left and is no longer worth the support it receives.
    2 points
  24. Yes, As the passage stated He was 30 when He began His public ministry. By comparing all the feasts in the Gospel of John, most people believe His ministry was about 3 1/2 years long - that makes Him between 33-34 years old when He died (as has been stated by others here too). As far as the exact years Jesus was born and died, they are still 33-34 years apart - regardless of what year some historian or Bible Critic has as the starting date. What is important is what the Bible gives as the chronology of His life. The same difficulty comes about when you try to date the events in the book of Acts - many different writers have differing starting dates (of what year Jesus died) - but there is an internal timeline that you can still come up with that does not depend on these conflicting dates, and which will still give you an accurate timeline of overall events (within a few months to a year). If you make note of how long between each event, etc. you can still know this was 5 years after Pentecost, this was 3 years and six months after that, this was … and so on. (Making general time references as I do not have my Bible in front of me right now.) Now I have my notes… For example, one passage says Paul was at a certain place teaching for three years, another says he was in jail for two years, and so on. Put all the references together and you can make a framework of dates within the book of Acts itself, regardless of the starting date. Paul got saved on the Damascus road two years after Pentecost, then he spent three years training with Jesus in the Arabian Desert… If your starting date was the year 32 (based on Robert Anderson’s conclusions in The Coming Prince), that makes it about 34 AD when Paul got saved in Acts 9, and about the year 37 when he finished his three years of discipleship with Jesus in Acts 9:23. It takes a bit of time, but the rest of Acts can be dated this way - and when you find an author/commentator that has a different starting date, you can just start counting from there - ie. +2 years to Paul’s salvation, +3 years until he cam back from Arabia (see Galatians 1:15-18), +10 more years when Barnabas and Saul/Paul came back from Jerusalem in Acts 12:25, then +3-4 more years till the Jerusalem counsel in Acts 15:1 - see also Galatians 2:1), and so on. Sorry for the long comments, but this is something I have put some effort into and tried to figure out how to have a working framework for studying with.
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  25. [21] Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, [22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. [23] And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,- Luke 3:21-23 The Lord's ministry lasted around three years so he was most likely 33 maybe 34 when he was crucified.
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  26. Many churches calling themselves non denominational I've seen are very very similar to charismatic Anglicans or Methodists. They say they are non denom yet have almost exactly the same statement of faith as a denomination. Their non denominational idea is not to go back to scripture, but to do things their own way. But then also you can get the rare non-denominational church that just goes by the bible and matches very closely or the same as an IFB church. That's because they have the same stance of letting the bible govern their beliefs.
    2 points
  27. replenish (v.) mid-14c., replenishen, "provide" with food or drink, also riches, beauty, etc., from Old French repleniss-, extended present-participle stem of replenir "to fill up," from re-, here perhaps an intensive prefix based on the notion of "fill repeatedly," thus "fill completely" (see re-), + -plenir, from Latin plenus "full" (from PIE root *pele- (1) "to fill"). Specifically as "to fill up again, restore to a former amount or condition" by 1610s. Related: Replenished; replenishing; replenishment. And here's the link to the prefix "re" https://www.etymonline.com/word/re- I'm not convinced either way. Evil did exist before man sinned, otherwise God would not have "known good and evil" and the serpent would not have been an evil entity to have tempted Eve. And "death" was a known concept, otherwise the serpent and Eve would not have discussed it. The Bible says that death passed upon Adam and Eve.. I don't recall reading where it says that animals had not yet died. I'm just curious as to what happened to all them "dinosaurs". Except for crocodilians, they were completely annihilated long ago and I don't believe any of them were on the ark.
    1 point
  28. Napsterdad

    Word Game

    You sir are evil but google came through... NDISwrapper
    1 point
  29. You are a broken record, endlessly repeating yourself. We cannot WILL ourselves to be born again. That is a work of the Holy Spirit enacted the moment we RECEIVE the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. In case you missed it, this is the verse right before the one you ripped out of context and attempt to give a false/twisted meaning: John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Maybe one day God might sovereignly elect you to salvation, then you might actually understand all the passages you twist and give a heretical meaning.
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  30. Hey! Let's make murder a state's issue and keep the Feds out of it! Sorry about Trump change but only God knows what will happen if an alternate candidate wins. And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. Deuteronomy 28:53-55 l
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  31. On a Friday night, we watched "Courageous" with our Youth. After the movie, we held a Bible Study session where we used Scripture to support the message conveyed in the film.
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  32. Every Pastor of churches I have been a member put in far more than 40 hours a week. Most pastor's I've known you usually had to make an appointment weeks in advance to get an opportunity just to have them over for dinner. Had these pastors gotten paid an honest hourly wage for all the hours they actually put in a week the church probably couldn't have sustained them.
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  33. We're still the same. We're too contemporary for some, and too conservative for others. We're just going to try to please God.
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  34. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    Messiah: Hallelujah Chorus George Frideric Handel Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! For the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! For the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! The kingdom of this world Is become the kingdom of our Lord, And of His Christ, and of His Christ; And He shall reign for ever and ever, For ever and ever, forever and ever, King of kings, and Lord of lords, King of kings, and Lord of lords, : And Lord of lords, And He shall reign, And He shall reign forever and ever, King of kings, forever and ever, And Lord of lords, Hallelujah! Hallelujah! And He shall reign forever and ever, King of kings! and Lord of lords! : And He shall reign forever and ever, King of kings! and Lord of lords! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
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  35. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    I Sing The Mighty Power Of God Isaac Watts Music: 'Ellacombe' from Gesangbuch der Herzogl. Hofkapelle, Wurttemberg 1 I sing the mighty pow'r of God, That made the mountains rise; That spread the flowing seas abroad, And built the lofty skies. I sing the wisdom that ordained The sun to rule the day: The moon shines full at His command, And all the stars obey. 2 I sing the goodness of the Lord, That filled the earth with food: He formed the creatures with His word, And then pronounced them good. Lord, how Thy wonders are displayed, Where'er I turn my eye; If I survey the ground I tread, Or gaze upon the sky. 3 There's not a plant or flow'r below, But makes Thy glories known; And clouds arise and tempests blow, By order from Thy throne. Creatures that borrow life from Thee Are subject to Thy care: There's not a place where we can flee, But God is present there.
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  37. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    Blessed Assurance Fanny Crosby and Phoebe Palmer Knapp 1 Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine; Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine! Heir of salvation, purchase of God, Born of His Spirit, washed in His blood. CHORUS This is my story, this is my song, Praising my Savior all the day long. This is my story, this is my song, Praising my Savior all the day long. 2 Perfect submission, perfect delight, Visions of rapture now burst on my sight; Angels descending, bring from above Echoes of mercy, whispers of love. CHORUS 3 Perfect submission, all is at rest, I in my Savior am happy and blest; Watching and waiting, looking above, Filled with His goodness, lost in His love. CHORUS
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  38. Still...the verse posted to you was clear....Women aren't evil, and their intentions may have been good...still, it says that women should not be teaching in a mixed group. Sorry...don't compare their actions with the actions of Christ and his work on the Sabbath. You're truly lacking in your exegesis.
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  39. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    When I Survey The Wondrous Cross Isaac Watts 1 When I survey the wond'rous Cross On which the Prince of Glory dy'd, My richest gain I count but loss, And pour contempt on all my pride. 2 Forbid it, Lord, that I should boast, Save in the death of Christ my God: All the vain things that charm me most, I sacrifice them to his blood. 3 See from his head, his hands, his feet, Sorrow and love flow mingled down! Did ever such love and sorrow meet? Or thorns compose so rich a crown? 4 His dying crimson, like a robe, Spreads o'er his body on the tree; Then am I dead to all the globe, And all the globe is dead to me. 5 Were the whole realm of nature mine, That were a present far too small; Love so amazing, so divine, Demands my soul, my life, my all.
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  40. Fellowship Baptist College in E. Peoria, IL Maranatha Baptist Bible College Watertown, Wisconsin Twin Oaks Missionary Baptist College, E. .Peoria, IL
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  41. True, I’ll like to add baptisms of the new believers for membership. Some might say it’s not important.
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  42. Reader, There is this Teaching that the more hyper Calvinists seem to employ. This.. = "You must be born again, before you can believe, before you can give God your faith". Now, any Believer who is born again for 12 seconds, can see that this is exactly backwards, and is an impossible situation to EXIST. That teaching is teaching that God would join Himself to a sinner, as "one with God" "in Christ"...= before God has received their faith to then forgive their sin. So that teaching is... "you are born again, before you have heard the Gospel, and before you have BELIEVED IT"> That is,= "Salvation comes to you.... before the hearing of faith..... and before you trusted in Christ..." That teaching is...."you are born again to then be able to have faith in Christ". Now, see how CRAZY Calvinism that is?? That teaching is Theological insanity, and is one of the best examples of... Hebrews 13:9, = "doctrines of Devils". That Teaching is a rejection of "All that believe in Jesus, shall be saved". That Teaching is : Galatians 1:8
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  43. Jerry

    More : Crazy Calvinism

    God doesn't give us faith - though He does convict us of sin and gives us the ability to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work of redemption. Yes, salvation is wholly of God, but He does not save us without us responding to the Gospel, without us calling upon Him for salvation. Yes, dead in sin does not equate unable to respond at all. If we were so dead we couldn't do anything like a physically dead person cannot do anything, guess what? A physically dead person cannot sin either.
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  44. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    Up from The Grave He Arose Robert Lowry 1 Low in the grave He lay, Jesus my Savior, Waiting the coming day, Jesus my Lord! CHORUS Up from the grave He arose, With a mighty triumph o’er His foes, He arose a victor from the dark domain, And He lives forever, With His saints to reign. He arose! He arose! Hallelujah! Christ arose! 2 Vainly they watch His bed, Jesus my Savior; Vainly they seal the dead, Jesus my Lord! CHORUS 3 Death cannot keep its prey, Jesus my Savior; He tore the bars away, Jesus my Lord! CHORUS
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  45. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    The Old Rugged Cross George Bennard 1 On a hill far away, stood an old rugged Cross The emblem of suffering and shame And I love that old Cross where the dearest and best For a world of lost sinners was slain. CHORUS So I'll cherish the old rugged Cross Till my trophies, at last, I lay down I will cling to the old rugged Cross And exchange it some day for a crown. CHORUS 2 Oh, that old rugged Cross so despised by the world Has a wondrous attraction for me For the dear Lamb of God, left His Glory above To bear it to dark Calvary. CHORUS 3 In the old rugged Cross, stained with blood so divine A wondrous beauty I see For the dear Lamb of God, left His Glory above To pardon and sanctify me. CHORUS 4 To the old rugged Cross, I will ever be true Its shame and reproach gladly bear Then He'll call me some day to my home far away Where His glory forever I'll share. CHORUS
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  46. Well, I guess comprehension is NOT your strong suit. Thank you for clarifying that for me. Old ploy...care to try again? Apparently you understood nothing. Again, comprehension is a good thing. I'm far from a "baby" Christian, and I have dealt with music for most of my 62 years. I have nowhere intimated that Jesus had to be mentioned in every line. I did however mention that the use of "God" in the song was in the form of common slang among the world. Having written music for many years I am sure I know as much or more about music, lyrics and composition than you. As to your "maturity" as a Christian, if you have to continuously place yourself on a pedestal looking down on others shows you have no humility, and definitely no business telling others anything until you remove that huge log from your own eye. And really, again with the worship of Paul... I have been preaching and teaching since the middle 70s, and 42 years of that in churches across the country.
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  47. Sinclair

    How long?

    If you are in Yaounde, inbox your location. Someone will visit you. Prayed for you
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  48. I'm sorry...I somehow ended up posting 100 instead of nearly 200 years. So, you're correct. Thank you for correcting that. The War of Northern Aggression was the cause of many things.
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  49. I hope he is truly saved - but too many of these Hollywood/celebrity conversions are just junk, making religious people with no real spiritual substance. Oh, Elon Musk is saved because his interviewers got him to pray with them (with no clear gospel presentation or repentance). Oh, Chris Pratt is saved because he said something about the (universal) Fatherhood of God at a Disney convention recently (of course, you must overlook the fact that he started blaspheming God and using Jesus’ name in vain in several of his recent movies - if he was really taking a stand for Jesus because he got saved, you figure he would stand against using his professed Saviour’s name as a swear word). Be like Justin Bieber - produce basically pornographic music videos as long as you cover yourself with “Jesus tattoos”. Now THAT’s showing love for (the Hollywood) Jesus!!
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  50. Having posted above, my ponderings on the matter continued. Thus I present some further thoughts: We often teach our men that some of the most important phrases for a happy home are - Yes, dear; I was wrong, dear; whatever you want, dear. Then we wonder why we have no male leadership in our homes. We say things like - Happy wife, happy life. But is this universally true. What if making my wife happy makes my God unhappy? Will that result in a happy life? Well, it might in the short term; but it definitely will not in the long term. Adam made his wife "happy" when he chose to eat the fruit with her. Did it result in a "happy life?" Not for him, nor for the rest humanity either. Abraham made his wife "happy" when he took her advise to beget a child by Hagar. Did it result in a "happy life?" Not really for him, for her, or for the Middle East unto the present day.
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