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  1. If she was teaching a class to other women and/children (or teens), that is okay - but not if she was teaching a class with men in it. This is referring to a political leader specifically, but when women and children lead a country, it is a sign of judgement of God on that nation. Isaiah 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
    5 points
  2. Paul was a missionary and a church planter - yet he still was sent out from the Antioch church, like church planters and missionaries today. Not sure why such a “great and wise Bible teacher” as yourself is so blind he cannot see or acknowledge that basic fact. Maybe you are too puffed up by your supposed knowledge. 1 Corinthians 8:1b Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
    4 points
  3. I rarely post here now, but someone who makes out that he knows everything but makes such a basic, simple mistake, warrants a post. A Single Post. Act 11:25-26 (25) Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: (26) And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. Saul was a the church at Antioch for a full year. From there they went to the church at Jerusalem. Then they returned from Jerusalem Act 12:25 (25) And Barnabas and Saul returned from Jerusalem, when they had fulfilled their ministry, and took with them John, whose surname was Mark. They returned... to Antioch. Where Saul (Paul) was in the church at Antioch and named as one of the preachers. Act 13:1 (1) Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. Then Barnabas and Saul were sent out from...... Antioch. Act 13:2-3 (2) As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. (3) And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. So Barnabas and Saul went out and started a whole bunch of churches, and eventually returned to..... Antioch. Act 14:26-28 (26) And thence sailed to Antioch, from whence they had been recommended to the grace of God for the work which they fulfilled. (27) And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles. (28) And there they abode long time with the disciples. After a time - actually a "long time" at Antioch, they had reason to go to the church at Jerusalem: Act 15:2-3 (2) When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. (3) And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren. And they were "brought on their way by the church" - would this be the church at Antioch that sent them to Jerusalem to figure out the doctrinal issues that had come to their attention? The church that Barnabas and Saul were a part of apparently? After all had a good chat, the church at Jerusalem sent Barnabas and Saul - and a few new mates - back to..... Antioch! of all places.... Then, after they had been back at the church in Antioch for a while, Barnabas and Paul decided to head out and see how the churches they started before were going. Act 15:35-40 (35) Paul also and Barnabas continued in Antioch, teaching and preaching the word of the Lord, with many others also. (36) And some days after Paul said unto Barnabas, Let us go again and visit our brethren in every city where we have preached the word of the Lord, and see how they do. (37) And Barnabas determined to take with them John, whose surname was Mark. (38) But Paul thought not good to take him with them, who departed from them from Pamphylia, and went not with them to the work. (39) And the contention was so sharp between them, that they departed asunder one from the other: and so Barnabas took Mark, and sailed unto Cyprus; (40) And Paul chose Silas, and departed, being recommended by the brethren unto the grace of God. Now of course, Barnabas and Saul had a disagreement, and decided to make two separate journeys, and this time Silas went with Paul - and note that they were recommended by the Brethren - which brethren are we speaking about specifically? I think that would be the brethren at the church of ANTIOCH. Even after this, Paul dropped back in to Antioch: Act 18:22 (22) And when he had landed at Caesarea, and gone up, and saluted the church, he went down to Antioch. The point of this is, that for someone to say that Paul had no "home church" shows either an extraordinary ignorance of the book of Acts, or a wilful misrepresentation of the fact for their own purposes. Of course Paul had a home church - the Church at Antioch is where he served on several occasions, it is the church from which his missionary journeys were based, and it was the church that he returned to at the end of his various missions. To get something so obviously basic incorrect gives reason to doubt his general information. Aside from the fact that he has misquoted verses, indicating that they are KJV when they are clearly not - this is deliberate deceit, and it shows that he knows he is required to use KJV but REFUSES to do so, showing a disrespect for both the Word of God and for this board. And there will be no reply - I will not fuss with an argument on this board (and will likely not even check back for a week or so at best anyway. Say what you will about me - I don't care.)
    4 points
  4. There are some people that do say that. It is not the typical denomination in the sense that IFB's do not have a headquarters dictating to them what to believe, what to preach, what to do. Though we are a denomination in the sense that we are Baptists and are likeminded to many other IFB churches (though not 100% - each studies the Bible on their own and is led by their own leadership, so some conclusions and basic understanding of issues/doctrine may differ).
    3 points
  5. Did You Know?... 666 is (your welcome)
    3 points
  6. Behold is a hyperdispensationalist - probably in the same crowd as Robert Breaker and Gene Kim. They only believe out of the whole Bible that Paul’s letters are applicable to the church - and even if Hebrews was written by Paul, it was written before he got his gospel from God so therefore is not for the church either. So literally they only accept 87 out of the 1189 chapters of the whole Bible! Sad!
    3 points
  7. Nah. The CURRENT meaning is to restock. The original meaning - in old english, as was used for the KJB - is simply "to fill." Not refill nor restock nor fill back up. Plainly and simply, no species existed until God created them as recorded in Gen. 1. Saying otherwise says that death occurred before sin. And that did not happen...the Bible is clear that death came through Adam. Not before. No raging debate here. Just simply knowledge of vocabulary and the fact that words change meaning over time. Just so you understand, this is a discussion board. Refrain from addressing folks as carnal...in order to enjoy so-called "christian forum membership."
    3 points
  8. Calvin simply redefined "God's foreknowledge" as "Predestined", and from that starting point, created a Theology that is both Theological and Spiritual poison. Paul says that the born again, who are fallen from Grace, are "Bewitched" and "WHO has deceived you". A.) John Calvin is one of the worst as his Theology, can take your mind and put it in a dark place so that the Gospel becomes obscure and the Cross become Hidden. John Calvinism is a cancer on the Body of Christ. That's a fact.
    3 points
  9. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    Come, Thou Fount Robert Robinson and John Wyeth 1 Come, Thou Fount of every blessing, Tune my heart to sing Thy grace; Streams of mercy, never ceasing, Call for songs of loudest praise. Teach me some melodious sonnet, Sung by flaming tongues above; Praise the mount I'm fixed upon it Mount of Thy redeeming love. 2 Here I raise mine Ebenezer; Hither by Thy help I'm come; And I hope, by Thy good pleasure, Safely to arrive at home. Jesus sought me when a stranger, Wandering from the fold of God; He, to rescue me from danger, Interposed His precious blood. 3 O to grace how great a debtor Daily I'm constrained to be! Let Thy goodness, like a fetter, Bind my wandering heart to Thee: Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it, Prone to leave the God I love: Here's my heart, O take and seal it; Seal it for Thy courts above.
    2 points
  10. The devil hates and wants to destroy the family. Feminism, Femininization of men, masculinization of women, domination by women, open disrespect and vilification of men by society, abuse of women and children, our education system, government and our judicial system are all part of the many ploys and avenues the devil uses to destroy the family. Destroying God's order at the very basic level, in the home, I think is the most devastating. But he even works in churches; not just by the teaching of the wrong things, but failing to teach some of the right things. (1 Peter 4:17)
    2 points
  11. Agree or disagree with the following: "Nondenominational" refers to religious organizations or congregations that do not align themselves with any particular established denomination or sect within a religion. However, despite not affiliating with a specific denomination, nondenominational groups can still be considered a denomination themselves, albeit with some nuances. Here's why: Distinct Identity: Nondenominational churches or religious groups often have their own distinct identity, beliefs, practices, and organizational structures. While they may not adhere to the specific doctrines of a particular denomination, they still form a cohesive group with shared beliefs and practices. Organizational Structure: Although they may not have hierarchical structures like denominations, nondenominational groups often have their own leadership, clergy, and organizational frameworks. They may have local congregations, national headquarters, and sometimes even international networks. Theological Perspectives: While nondenominational groups may claim to be nonsectarian and open to a variety of theological perspectives, they typically have a set of core beliefs or doctrines that distinguish them from other groups. These beliefs may not align precisely with any one denomination but still serve to define the group's identity. Community and Fellowship: Like denominations, nondenominational groups provide a sense of community and fellowship for their members. They often gather for worship, religious education, social activities, and community service, creating a cohesive religious community. Recognition and Affiliation: While nondenominational groups may eschew formal denominational labels, they often seek recognition from legal and regulatory bodies, such as tax-exempt status from government authorities. They may also affiliate with broader networks of nondenominational churches or organizations for support and cooperation. In summary, while nondenominational groups may not fit neatly into traditional denominational categories, they still exhibit many characteristics of denominations, including distinct identity, organizational structure, theological perspectives, community, and recognition. Thus, they can be considered a denomination in their own right, albeit one that emphasizes independence and flexibility in religious practice and belief.
    2 points
  12. Many churches calling themselves non denominational I've seen are very very similar to charismatic Anglicans or Methodists. They say they are non denom yet have almost exactly the same statement of faith as a denomination. Their non denominational idea is not to go back to scripture, but to do things their own way. But then also you can get the rare non-denominational church that just goes by the bible and matches very closely or the same as an IFB church. That's because they have the same stance of letting the bible govern their beliefs.
    2 points
  13. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    O God, Our Help in Ages Past Isaac Watts and William Croft 1 Our God, our Help in ages past, our Hope for years to come, our Shelter from the stormy blast, and our eternal Home. 2 Under the shadow of Thy throne Thy saints have dwelt secure; sufficient is Thine arm alone, and our defense is sure. 3 Before the hills in order stood or earth received its frame, from everlasting Thou art God, to endless years the same. 4 A thousand ages in Thy sight are like an ev'ning gone, short as the watch that ends the night before the rising sun. 5 Time, like an ever-rolling stream, bears all its sons away; they fly forgotten, as a dream dies at the op'ning day. 6 Our God, our Help in ages past, our Hope for years to come, be Thou our Guide while life shall last, and our eternal Home!
    2 points
  14. SGO

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    Be Still, My Soul Katharina von Schlegel and Jean Sibelius 1 Be still, my soul: the Lord is on thy side; Bear patiently the cross of grief or pain; Leave to thy God to order and provide; In ev'ry change He faithful will remain. Be still, my soul: thy best, thy heav'nly Friend Thro' thorny ways leads to a joyful end. 2 Be still, my soul: thy God doth undertake To guide the future as He has the past. Thy hope, thy confidence let nothing shake; All now mysterious shall be bright at last. Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below. 3 Be still, my soul: the hour is hast'ning on When we shall be forever with the Lord, When disappointment, grief, and fear are gone, Sorrow forgot, love's purest joys restored. Be still, my soul: when change and tears are past, All safe and blessed we shall meet at last.
    2 points
  15. SGO

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    Come, Thou Almighty King Unknown, Felice de Giardini 1 Come, Thou Almighty King, Help us Thy name to sing, Help us to praise: Father, all-glorious, O'er all victorious, Come, and reign over us, Ancient of Days. 2 Come, Thou Incarnate Word, Gird on Thy mighty sword, Our prayer attend: Come, and Thy people bless, And give Thy word success: Spirit of holiness, On us descend. 3 Come, Holy Comforter, Thy sacred witness bear In this glad hour: Thou who almighty art, Now rule in ev'ry heart, And ne'er from us depart, Spirit of pow'r. 4 To the great One in Three Eternal praises be Hence, evermore! His sov'reign majesty May we in glory see, And to eternity Love and adore!
    2 points
  16. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    Saviour, Like a Shepherd Lead Us Dorothy A. Thrupp and William B. Bradbury 1 Saviour, like a shepherd lead us, Much we need Thy tender care; In Thy pleasant pastures feed us, For our use Thy folds prepare: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast bought us, Thine we are; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast bought us, Thine we are. 2 We are Thine; do Thou befriend us, Be the Guardian of our way; Keep Thy flock, from sin defend us, Seek us when we go astray: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Hear, O hear us when we pray; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Hear, O hear us when we pray. 3 Thou hast promised to receive us, Poor and sinful tho' we be; Thou hast mercy to relieve us, Grace to cleanse, and pow'r to free: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Early let us turn to Thee; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Early let us turn to Thee. 4 Early let us seek Thy favor; Early let us do Thy will; Blessed Lord and only Saviour, With Thy love our bosoms fill: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast loved us, love us still; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast loved us, love us still.
    2 points
  17. For the last few years, the Berean Call has made various ebooks and tracts/pamphlets by Dave Hunt and others at the Berean Call available for free download. I do not endorse everything about Dave Hunt, but he is one of the best out there for exposing doctrinal and practical corruption in modern Christendom. There are two official sites that I am aware of that are offering some of their material for free downloads: Shop | The Berean Call This one you will need to create an account (name, address, does not ask for any payment info because these materials are free) and add the free ebooks you are interested in to your basket (if given the choice, choose pdf as devices and ereaders (and webpages) can handle that, some of the other options like epub are only usable with a specific program, so I don't recommend that, unless you know it is what you need). They will send you a receipt (for $0), then in a separate email the download link (this could come an hour or two later). The Official Store of The Berean Call – TBC Store (davehunt.org) This site does not need a login, and as soon as you checkout, it goes to the page you can download the ebook. I would check both sites, as not all their products overlap. Yesterday, I saw Occult Invasion for free. This is a basically 500 page book that I had read some of a couple of years ago. Glad to see it here now. Of course, download any and all that you are interested in. Some of the other good ones they have available now are: What Love Is This? (book exposing Calvinism), Judgment Day (on Israel and the Middle East), Showtime For the Sheep (the danger of Hollywood depictions of Jesus), Newsletter Reprints (this is every one of their monthly newsletters that are available since the ministry started in 1986, updated every year with the previous year added - contains a TOC and an index of subjects). I think Mind Invaders and Sanctuary of the Chosen are both fiction, exposing the occult, etc. I would suggest at least downloading all the books, if not the tracts or the pamphlets.
    2 points
  18. SGO

    Nose

    This is a Baptist news section. If you are looking for discussions or typing something short, please use the community forums What do you call a nose with no body? Nobody knows.
    2 points
  19. Yup, ALL the NT epistles/books give us doctrine. Why hyperfocus on Paul? He’s not the only NT writer either.
    2 points
  20. I go to scripture as a whole. Not just to the Pauline Epistles. Remember that... comparing scripture to scripture.
    2 points
  21. I don't think so... and your condescending attitude towards me and others on this site, including the administrator is wearing. This IS NOT KJV. It's an improvisation. You know the rules of this site, yet you continue to violate them. Yes, we are ALL in the time of the gentiles. Paul was not the only person giving doctrine to the church. It seems that the fact that there were other apostles preaching the Gospel and instructing the church. I'm pretty sure most Christians understand that once they are saved they are a new creation and that God extended this grace to us. You use the terminology "real Baptist." I believe most here ARE "real Baptists." And to the other disciples as well. The only difference was that Paul was sent to the Gentiles. You seem to place far too much emphasis on Paul's ministry. Yes, he did write much of the New Testament, but, he is not the only apostle, nor are his writings alone. ME? Nobody else? Don't you mean "US?" Yes he did say "my gospel." And yet if you look at the Bible as a whole, as it dovetails together, his gospel IS NOT alone. And who is preaching or teaching any other gospel? Certainly not I. Just a final word to you from me. I don't know how others here appreciate being talked down to, and especially when it is done with the haughty spirit you seem to show towards others here. You, sir, are not my teacher, nor my pastor. You've made a "grand entrance" onto this site with what seems to be a mission of telling us that we don't know our Bible, the gospel, and have even seemed to intimate that I am teaching another gospel. You're pompous, arrogant and self-righteous. If you continue to address me in the manner you have been, I will not hesitate to respond. All this being said, I hope you have a nice day.
    2 points
  22. This is the verse from the KJv: 1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. If you do not have easy access to a Bible program you can copy/paste from, try this site: https://www.blueletterbible.org
    2 points
  23. Jerry

    2nd Corinthians 5:20

    "BE" does not mean "believe." I get the point you are making but you are giving an unbiblical definition of a word (and one not found in any dictionary either).
    2 points
  24. That is correct. the English language is constantly changing. Back in 1611 the word "Replenish" meant "to fill", and today in 2024 it means to restock.
    2 points
  25. Can you please use Scripture when posting a Biblical lesson? Otherwise it is just your opinion?
    2 points
  26. Nothing unbiblical with the term denomination and of course Denomination does not equal Salvation, it's just a set of theological beliefs. What is your definition of Denomination? I think you are confused by the definition of denomination.
    2 points
  27. I would simply say -- The husband is the "head" of his wife in the same manner that Christ is the "Head" of the church. However that might apply for Christ in relation to the church must have a similar application for the husband in relation to his wife. So, is Christ just a "spiritual leader" for the church; or is Christ the "boss" of the church?
    2 points
  28. I know a woman who would fit this category...her husband was a pastor (he's in Glory now). They had several kids (5 or 6, 1 girl the rest boys). I had several chats with one of the sons who himself is a pastor. Most of the children have nothing to do with her because of the way she was while they were growing up...I will not go into detail, but trust me that "odious" and "brawling" are apropos. Anyway...two of the kids (one being the daughter) are serving the Lord and have healthy marriages. The rest do not. This son told me that he learned about marriage from his dad, who he believes taught him - by his actions - just exactly what loving one's wife should be, regardless of how the wife is. I thought that was both the greatest compliment he could give his dad and the saddest thing ever. I agree that both parents are responsible. I do think that, because God placed man as the head, he has more of a burden. But I also believe that, once said child hits adulthood it is completely on that child to choose to do right. I've known many through the years who have served the Lord with all their hearts, even though they got NO teaching/encouragement from home to do so - whether from mom or dad. That said, I think our young people need to have it impressed upon them the seriousness of having one or more eternal beings to nurture. I thank God often for the way my son and dil are raising their son (and will do with others if/as God sends them). Asher will be the one to make the choice whether or not he will submit to God. But he's got great parents to lead the way. (his Grandpa D's no slouch, either heehee)
    2 points
  29. Then this.... Looking in from the outside (not involved in the thread), it did not seem to come across respectful. Just my opinion. Sir, you did....
    2 points
  30. You brought nothing to the table? Sorry if I did not achieve your elite status. Quit trying to make all the Bible fit your false teachings. The Holy Spirit convicts people of their sin, enlightens them to the truth of the Gospel and who Jesus Christ is - He doesn't force or make them believe. Also, being dead spiritually is not the same thing as being dead physically. It means separation - a spiritually dead person is separated from the Lord God until they receive/respond to the Gospel. If being spiritually dead meant man could not do ANYTHING, then man could not even sin - a physically dead body just lies there, unresponsive, neither sinning, speaking or literally doing anything. If being spiritually dead meant mankind was unable to first respond to the preaching of the Gospel, then become regenerated afterwards by grace through faith (by the work of the Holy Spirit), then how do YOU reconcile this verse: John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. It doesn't say those who are alive will hear Jesus' voice, but those who are dead. Calvinism puts the cart before the horse and preaches a double regeneration - first a regeneration to be enabled to respond, then regenerating again to be born again - but that means a true believer needs to be born again again - but you won't find THAT in the Bible! John 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. When man responds positively to the work of conviction and enlightening of the Holy Spirit, then He regenerates them. We do not regenerate ourselves - neither does the Lord God regenerate man without man responding to their need for sin and righteousness, and turning to the Saviour. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Wait, according to your theology, how many gifts does God give man in regards to salvation? Here, it very clearly says the gift of God is eternal life, not faith. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. He gave His Son, and those who received Him (John 1:12) get eternal life - same thing, salvation through believing the Saviour is the gift.
    2 points
  31. You just labelled two FALSE religions/CULTS as Christian denominations. And those two DO teach a different gospel, a different Jesus, etc; therefore they are not of God and to be warned against and exposed. Also, there were denominations in Jesus' day (in the NT). The NT word used is SECT. Look it up. Jesus didn't condemn someone for being part of a sext/denomination or identifying themselves as a Christian, as a follower of the way, as a brethren, as a Jewish proselyte, etc - but He condemned where those specific denominations added to or took away from the Word of God. Yes, some denominations AND ALL cults started because some men or women wanted to add their own beliefs and practices to what God has said in His Word - YET, there are others that were clearly led of God and were formed because they stood upon the Word of God and separated from and exposed the error of other denominations or cults and religions - which the Bible tells us to do. God is not for unity at the sake of truth. In fact there are various passages that He tells us He came to bring a sword to separate the light from the darkness, the false brethren from the true. By the way, Baptists (anabaptists, Waldensians, and others of a like nature) were historically for the truth and against the error of their days, and many died for standing alone on the Word of God. The false brethren were the ones persecuting them and killing them and slandering them and giving them their names (anabaptist). God preserved His Word historically through these remnant groups. (I say historically because many no longer stand where they once stood - but that does not negate their history or make it irrelevant. I proclaim myself as an INDEPENDENT FUNDAMENTAL BAPTIST because: 1. Independent - I believe in the autonomy of the local church - yes, my church may have similarities to many other Baptist churches, but we are not a denomination in the sense that some group or church somewhere has authority over us and dictates what we believe or practice. 2. Fundamental - I believe that the FUNDAMENTALS of the faith are necessary for salvation and for someone to be identified as a true NT Bible believer/church. I also hold to all the Baptist Distinctives, which separates me in some sense from all other "Christian" groups, true or false, that only embrace some of them. 3. Baptist - It's an identification for others to be able to find believers of a like mind. Everything I see in the Bible, especially in the NT, tells me to dig into the Bible, study it, rightly divide it, then hold with all my heart to what I believe it teaches. That is the type of believer God promises to bless - not the one who is willing to cast the truth aside for the sake of some ecumenical unity.
    2 points
  32. Adrian Rogers was a great preacher.
    2 points
  33. With all these lawsuits and troubles, I don’t know if he’s gonna make it to the end.
    1 point
  34. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    Standing On The Promises Russell K. Carter 1 Standing on the promises of Christ my king, through eternal ages let his praises ring; glory in the highest, I will shout and sing, standing on the promises of God. CHORUS Standing, standing, standing on the promises of God my Savior; standing, standing, I’m standing on the promises of God. 2 Standing on the promises that cannot fail, when the howling storms of doubt and fear assail, by the living Word of God I shall prevail, standing on the promises of God. CHORUS 3 Standing on the promises of Christ the Lord, bound to him eternally by love’s strong cord, overcoming daily with the Spirit’s sword, standing on the promises of God. CHORUS 4 Standing on the promises I cannot fall, listening every moment to the Spirit’s call, resting in my Savior as my all in all, standing on the promises of God. CHORUS
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  35. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    I Know Whom I Have Believed Daniel W. Whittle and James McGranahan 1 I know not why God's wondrous grace To me He hath made known, Nor why, unworthy Christ in love Redeemed me for His own, CHORUS But "I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able To keep that which I've committed Unto Him against that day." 2 I know not how this saving faith To me He did impart, Nor how believing in His Word Wrought peace within my heart. CHORUS 3 I know not how the Spirit moves, Convincing men of sin, Revealing Jesus thro' the Word, Creating faith in Him. CHORUS 3 I know not what of good or ill May be reserved for me, Of weary ways or golden days, Before His face I see. CHORUS 5 I know not when my Lord may come, At night or noonday fair, Nor if I'll walk the vale with Him, Or "meet Him in the air." CHORUS
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  36. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    Grace Greater Than Our Sin Julia H. Johnston and Daniel B. Towner 1 Marvelous grace of our loving Lord, Grace that exceeds our sin and our guilt, Yonder in Calvary's mount out poured, There where the blood of the Lamb was spilt. CHORUS Grace, grace, God's grace, Grace that will pardon and cleanse within; Grace, grace, God's grace, Grace that is greater than all our sin. 2 Sin and despair like the sea waves cold, Threaten the soul with infinite loss; Grace that is greater, yes, grace untold, Points to the Refuge, the Mighty Cross. CHORUS 3 Dark is the stain that we cannot hide, What can avail to wash it away? Look there is flowing a crimson tide; Whiter than snow you may be today. CHORUS 4 Marvelous, infinite, matchless grace, Freely bestowed on all who believe; You that are longing to see His face, Will you this moment His grace receive? Marvelous grace, Infinite grace, Grace that is greater than all our sin.
    1 point
  37. Never said believing was not the essential thing - but disagreed with you creating your own definition of the word “be.” The word has the idea of doing something, being something (the context determineds what someone is to BE) - it does not mean believe in any sense of the word just because both words have the same first letters.
    1 point
  38. SGO

    Great Hymn Lyrics

    How Firm a Foundation George Keith and melody from Caldwell's "Union Harmony" 1 How firm a foundation, ye saints of the Lord, Is laid for your faith in His excellent Word! What more can He say than to you He hath said, To you, who for refuge to Jesus hath fled? 2 "Fear not, I am with thee, O be not dismayed, For I am thy God, I will still give thee aid, I'll strengthen thee, help thee, and cause thee to stand, Upheld by My gracious, omnipotent hand. 3 "When thro' the deep waters I cause thee to go, The rivers of sorrow shall not overflow, For I will be with thee thy trials to bless, And sanctify to thee thy deepest distress. 4 "When thro' fiery trials thy pathway shall lie, My grace, all sufficient, shall be thy supply; The flames shall not hurt thee, I only design Thy dross to consume and thy gold to refine."
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  39. No, but we are called to abide in the truth, learn it, hold to it - and that will eventually involve finding a church/denomination that holds more closely to the truth, if there are any doctrinal or practical issues with the church you came to the Lord in or started attending after you got saved. Yes, that will involve growth and more understanding of Bible truth as you walk closer with the Lord through the years. I see too many stunt their growth because they don't care about making choices based on truth, because it means they might leave their family church or their social club. But God is more concerned with perfecting His body (each church corporately and each individual separately) than making them feel comfortable and stale wherever they have been for untold years. P.S. Why do you have a Catholic picture of "Jesus"? Deuteronomy 4:15-19 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire: Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air, The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth: And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven. Acts 17:24-27 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: The halo around the head is from Babylon, and then was added to Catholicism over the years.
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  40. SGO

    Chinese Bibles

    A Chinese citizen cannot buy a bible in the open market. Bibles can be purchased at churches or seminaries. https://www.chinasource.org/resource-library/blog-entries/where-can-someone-get-a-bible-in-china/ https://chinaaid.org/uncensored-news/stories-by-issue/advocacy/bibles-made-in-china-read-in-china-and/ https://www.chinasource.org/resource-library/chinese-church-voices/chinese-bible-printing-in-china/ https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2020/12/chinas-threat-to-the-bible Amity Printing Company is the only government licensed bible printer and started printing bibles in 1988 in an agreement with the United Bible Societies. People of faith are under attack in China. Why then, do large American companies have their bibles printed in China? * Thomas Nelson and Sons (Harper Collins) * Zondervan (Harper Collins) * Holman Bible Publishers * Tyndale House Others? Must be a lot cheaper for them to do so. Bible publishers that don’t print in China include InterVarsity Press [IVP], St. Ignatius Press, St. Benedict Press, Cambridge University Press, R. L. Allan & Son, Schuyler Bibles, Church Bible Publishers, and Local Church Bible Publishers. Are there not inexpensive printers in other parts of the free world like South Korea and Taiwan? These companies seem to be not that concerned with government oppression. Bibles printed printed in China help the number of bibles increase worldwide. At this time I can't decide if printing great quantities of bibles and oppression are together an overall good thing or not.
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  41. Many of us here on this site live with extreme pain levels every day. The Bible tells us that a mans spirit (we have the Holy Spirit within us if we're truly saved) will help to sustain him through lifes circumstances, pain included, if we're walking in the Spirit and His control. I've seen hundreds of Christians dying of cancer and other horrible diseases, living in terrible pain, living victorious Christian lives. Lean on the Lord for your strength and try to help others, taking the focus off of yourself. This isn't in any way trying to invalidate the pain you're in, but will help guide you to a more biblical and positive outlook and outcome.
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  42. It shouldn't be... turning to "witch doctors", servants of seducing spirits, is NEVER acceptable according to the Bible.
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  43. Maybe - but you are never going to arrive at the truth in any discussion by blurring the lines of truth and error, hence the clarification.
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  44. Wow. There are all kinds of things flying around on this topic throughout this thread. Interesting indeed. Rather than cause most to overlook my posts on account of them being too long to draw attention, I'll try to keep my points short for brevity and ease of reading: The first thing that occurred to me is Revelation itself. The Church is mentioned numerous time throughout the first three chapters, with the Church pictured in Heaven in the fourth chapter. Strangely, as if the Church had lost its importance for any mention whatsoever, there is not one mention of the Church through any of the chapters that cover the Tribulation events. Not one mention in chapters 6 through 19. Dare we look at this silence for mention with a critical eye, apart from the "saints" being mentioned, there is another image within Revelation that sets the Tribulation saints apart from the Church...the Tribulation martyrs do not have crowns on their heads as does the Church and the OT saints from before the cross. Instead, what they have are white robes and palm branches in their hands. I've seen Anderson's videos and pulpit pounding antics for emphasis, but I've noticed some flaws in his reasoning...but that is another item altogether. I have other things I could bring up from an older thread on this site dating back to 2010 about the children and babies before the "point of accountability" argument, but will save those items for another post. Jr
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  45. Dr Sexton passed do to complications from a brain injury which he suffered back in August of last year in a fall, although doctors didnt catch the injury for several months. This is according to his wife Evelyn.
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  46. Every Calvinst I've listened to ended up teaching Arminianism. "If you didn't persevere until the end you never were saved to begin with." "If Jesus isn't Lord of all he isn't Lord at all." All smacks of good works.
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  47. BrotherTony

    How long?

    Is this why you're going all around the internet posting accusations of people from each site of leaking your information? I'm going to be frank with you...you're a conman. Pure and simple. You've accused people on the two other sites of doing the same thing, posting the same information you have here. This is spam and phishing. You stated you've been "tortured." You stated on one site several months ago that the problem with your eyes (we notice they're swollen and red) was irritated from some malady, not torture as you've inferred. HONESTY is the best policy, and you've NOT been honest here or on any other site I have seen you posting on.
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  48. The Bible talks more about our responsibilities than our rights. To my understanding, rights are what we think/believe others owe us - responsibilities are what we owe to God and others. This is not stated to be argumentative, but for consideration (and because I don't have perfect memory of all the Bible), is not the emphasis in Scripture to do what we know to be right towards others (in obedience to God and His Word), rather than expecting others to be a certain way towards us? For example, there are commands for parents and commands for their children - but I do not think we ever find a command for the children to expect or demand certain things from their parents, wives from their husbands and vice versa - but rather commands of how THEY are to be and conduct themselves. Yes, it is sad when a parent does not follow God in regards to their children, children to their parents, bosses to their employees, and vice versa, etc. - but that is why we are to rely on the Lord when others do not do right towards us, trusting that the Lord will work it all out for our good and will one day make it right. I think that our only rights are to claim what God has promised to His children - not what we think others should do or be towards us.** **I am adding this by way of comparison: I have some family in the States who will not obey certain things in the Bible - because they feel their "rights" as US citizens are more important than their responsibilities towards God and His Word - yet we are accountable to what God has said and commanded more than what man has said or commanded (if they are not the same in a particular instance). We ought to obey God (rather than men), and seek to do His will, regardless of what rights others think we owe them (and yes, if God's Word commands us to act/behave a certain way as believers and citizens of Heaven, we should strive for that, trusting the Lord when others do not do the same towards us).
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  49. Having posted above, my ponderings on the matter continued. Thus I present some further thoughts: We often teach our men that some of the most important phrases for a happy home are - Yes, dear; I was wrong, dear; whatever you want, dear. Then we wonder why we have no male leadership in our homes. We say things like - Happy wife, happy life. But is this universally true. What if making my wife happy makes my God unhappy? Will that result in a happy life? Well, it might in the short term; but it definitely will not in the long term. Adam made his wife "happy" when he chose to eat the fruit with her. Did it result in a "happy life?" Not for him, nor for the rest humanity either. Abraham made his wife "happy" when he took her advise to beget a child by Hagar. Did it result in a "happy life?" Not really for him, for her, or for the Middle East unto the present day.
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