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A bit earlier this morning, my pastor Randy Hoxie (Faith Baptist Church in Chilliwack, BC) had a heart attack and is undergoing surgery in a hospital in Vancouver right now. Please pray for the blockage to be removed and for the Lord to heal his heart (with no complications). Thank you in advance for any prayers.

The arguments given here against Calvinism are profound, and scripturally true. But I am a simple man and to me it all boils down to a very simple argument and verse. If Calvinism is true, then God deliberately creates THIS person for Heaven and then He deliberately creates THAT person for hell. 1 John 4:8 tells us that God is love. I'm sure that person that the Calvinistic god deliberately created for hell sure sees the Calvinistic god as love. I just cannot cross over that very simple hurdle. And no Calvinistic argument can change my mind. God is love. And He wants to share that love with whosever will. My loving God has NEVER created anyone for hell. If that is where you end up it was entirely your choice.

If she was teaching a class to other women and/children (or teens), that is okay - but not if she was teaching a class with men in it. This is referring to a political leader specifically, but when women and children lead a country, it is a sign of judgement of God on that nation. Isaiah 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

A couple of months ago, I reunited with a childhood friend, Ron, who I became emotionally close to (no physical contact, which he respected).I began to share my faith in Christ with him, and he was open to it, but then suddenly after he admitted some skeletons from his past, he shut down and decided he couldn't live up to the man he wanted to be for me. He took off and I never heard from him again. I emailed him, but he ignored. I miss him very much.

The devil hates and wants to destroy the family. Feminism, Femininization of men, masculinization of women, domination by women, open disrespect and vilification of men by society, abuse of women and children, our education system, government and our judicial system are all part of the many ploys and avenues the devil uses to destroy the family. Destroying God's order at the very basic level, in the home, I think is the most devastating. But he even works in churches; not just by the teaching of the wrong things, but failing to teach some of the right things. (1 Peter 4:17)

Deuteronomy 30:19 says..... 19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: So, why did God(same God) give people the option to "choose" life if He already has made the choice for them?

Belief was totally selfish, on my part. I don't see how Calvinists can say our belief is 'taking credit" for salvation; unless they have never really been saved themselves.

Poor Calvinist...they are forced to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ outside of their will. However, I willingly do it.

How arrogant to think that you - a Calvinist - have everything right and can come here and tell non-Calvinists how wrong they are. Romans 9 is dealing with nations, not individuals.

Salvation being 100% of God doesn’t negate man’s response - and that’s where they get it wrong. The Holy Spirit enlightens us to the truth; convicts us of our sin, our unrighteousness, and our need for the Saviour, enables us to understand the truth of who Jesus is and what He has done to save us, and shows us that salvation is not something that can be earned through anything we can do. Man responds either positively or negatively to this. If we receive the truth by receiving the Saviour and His free gift of salvation, the Holy Spirit then regenerates and indwells us, we are adopted into the family of God, given an inheritance in Christ and a future home in Heaven. That’s all by His grace - but we need to receive it, and God doesn’t force man to believe or be saved. That is up to us - and yes, He even calls and compels us - but we still need to receive the Gospel to be saved.

There are some people that do say that. It is not the typical denomination in the sense that IFB's do not have a headquarters dictating to them what to believe, what to preach, what to do. Though we are a denomination in the sense that we are Baptists and are likeminded to many other IFB churches (though not 100% - each studies the Bible on their own and is led by their own leadership, so some conclusions and basic understanding of issues/doctrine may differ).

Did You Know?... 666 is (your welcome)

I am sorry I forgot to post an update. He came home from the hospital last night, and is doing much better. I almost wrote "He went home last night" - but thought that might not be the best way to word it!

Once again, I’m a simple man and there are just some very simple hurdles I cannot get over to carry me into a Calvinist mindset. Throughout the Bible following God and salvation are given as choices, not a foregone conclusion already settled by God; and I’m not even touching on all the “whosoever” verses that infer choice. Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. From the very beginning Adam and Eve were given a choice. They did not have to eat that fruit. Unfortunately man has been making poor choices ever since. Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:22 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye are witnesses against yourselves that ye have chosen you the LORD, to serve him. And they said, We are witnesses. YE have chosen??? Huh. Not God has chosen? That’s odd if it’s all predetermined. 1 Kings 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word. Here is a choice between two opinions. Elijah asks them to choose. Psalms 119:30 I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me. David chose the way of truth. Interesting. Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Trust in the Lord, or lean on our own understanding. If we trust in the Lord He will direct our paths. That is a choice we must make. Matthew 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Why did Jesus mention a choice of two gates if it was already predetermined which gate each person would take? Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. IF???? How could Jesus possibly say IF if our salvation status is predetermined. Why would God’s word make so many references to our choosing to follow Him if it is all predetermined? Is God deceiving us? I can’t, and won’t, believe that; so I must believe that we do indeed have a choice. We can choose the straight gate of salvation, or the wide gate of destruction. Sounds pretty simple to me. My oldest son is 33 years old. For a good part of his life (since he was five until he went in the Navy at 17) he had gone to solid Bible believing churches and been fed sound doctrine there and at home. Early on he professed to be saved, but it was not true. It wasn’t long into his Navy life that he came home and told us what we already surmised: he was not saved. Since that time, he went to college and graduated Summa Cum Laude with a degree in chemistry. Obviously, being in the sciences, he was inundated with all the evolutionary arguments and led away from any possibility of a creation account. That along with his philosophy courses and a period of time when he deliberately read nothing but books that spoke against there being a god (Dawkins, Nietzsche, and others), has made him someone who on the surface seems an Atheist. But is he, or is he just kicking against the pricks? For one, he knows the Bible better than many Christians I know. He also knows the Quran quite well and has these two, along with other spiritual books, prominent on his reference shelf at home (right among his science books). He has a strong Christian ethic and behaviors. I often refer to him as the best unsaved Christian you could ever meet. Train up a child in the way he should go… His ex-wife went off the deep end and left him 1 ½ years ago and for a short period of time he went to his counselor's 7th Day Adventist church hoping to find peace and comfort. He could not continue with that because he knows the Bible too well and couldn’t buy what they were selling. He has rejected offers to come to our church. My personal belief is because he knows he’ll be brought closer to God than he is ready for. I say all this first in the hopes that many here will pray for my son, Jacob. That he will choose Christ and get saved. Secondly, to show that God has been calling my son and he has been rejecting that call. Jacob is obviously searching to fill a spiritual hole within himself, but has been choosing to spiritually go the way of the world. I do not believe he is predestined for hell or for heaven. I believe God is calling him. The CHOICE is his. Please pray with me that he makes the right choice before it is too late.

He is doing better but still in icu probably for several more days.

Belief is not defined in the Bible as any kind of work (in fact it is the opposite). It is a response on our part to what God has done and said.

Calvinists always seem to try this tripe trying to make "spiritual death", ie, spiritual separation from God, mean the same thing as physical death...not even comparable. Spiritual separation from God, or "spiritually dead" isn't anywhere near the same. Salvation, even in the Calvinist ideology, requires a decision...but, of course, through the In the Calvinist interpretation, we find that this decision has already been made for the participant "from before the foundation of the world." This isn't a "decision" but a forceful bringing into Christianity. It negates over 50% of Scripture concerning salvation.

You're entitled to your opinion. It sometimes seems like you just want to diss anything and everything and one you can. Do you EVER post anything positive? Gay marriage is already legal, no matter how sickening it is. Many Republicans are already in support of this and other whether anyone likes it or not. The party has continued to move left and is no longer worth the support it receives.

Yes, As the passage stated He was 30 when He began His public ministry. By comparing all the feasts in the Gospel of John, most people believe His ministry was about 3 1/2 years long - that makes Him between 33-34 years old when He died (as has been stated by others here too). As far as the exact years Jesus was born and died, they are still 33-34 years apart - regardless of what year some historian or Bible Critic has as the starting date. What is important is what the Bible gives as the chronology of His life. The same difficulty comes about when you try to date the events in the book of Acts - many different writers have differing starting dates (of what year Jesus died) - but there is an internal timeline that you can still come up with that does not depend on these conflicting dates, and which will still give you an accurate timeline of overall events (within a few months to a year). If you make note of how long between each event, etc. you can still know this was 5 years after Pentecost, this was 3 years and six months after that, this was … and so on. (Making general time references as I do not have my Bible in front of me right now.) Now I have my notes… For example, one passage says Paul was at a certain place teaching for three years, another says he was in jail for two years, and so on. Put all the references together and you can make a framework of dates within the book of Acts itself, regardless of the starting date. Paul got saved on the Damascus road two years after Pentecost, then he spent three years training with Jesus in the Arabian Desert… If your starting date was the year 32 (based on Robert Anderson’s conclusions in The Coming Prince), that makes it about 34 AD when Paul got saved in Acts 9, and about the year 37 when he finished his three years of discipleship with Jesus in Acts 9:23. It takes a bit of time, but the rest of Acts can be dated this way - and when you find an author/commentator that has a different starting date, you can just start counting from there - ie. +2 years to Paul’s salvation, +3 years until he cam back from Arabia (see Galatians 1:15-18), +10 more years when Barnabas and Saul/Paul came back from Jerusalem in Acts 12:25, then +3-4 more years till the Jerusalem counsel in Acts 15:1 - see also Galatians 2:1), and so on. Sorry for the long comments, but this is something I have put some effort into and tried to figure out how to have a working framework for studying with.

[21] Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, [22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. [23] And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,- Luke 3:21-23 The Lord's ministry lasted around three years so he was most likely 33 maybe 34 when he was crucified.

Agree or disagree with the following: "Nondenominational" refers to religious organizations or congregations that do not align themselves with any particular established denomination or sect within a religion. However, despite not affiliating with a specific denomination, nondenominational groups can still be considered a denomination themselves, albeit with some nuances. Here's why: Distinct Identity: Nondenominational churches or religious groups often have their own distinct identity, beliefs, practices, and organizational structures. While they may not adhere to the specific doctrines of a particular denomination, they still form a cohesive group with shared beliefs and practices. Organizational Structure: Although they may not have hierarchical structures like denominations, nondenominational groups often have their own leadership, clergy, and organizational frameworks. They may have local congregations, national headquarters, and sometimes even international networks. Theological Perspectives: While nondenominational groups may claim to be nonsectarian and open to a variety of theological perspectives, they typically have a set of core beliefs or doctrines that distinguish them from other groups. These beliefs may not align precisely with any one denomination but still serve to define the group's identity. Community and Fellowship: Like denominations, nondenominational groups provide a sense of community and fellowship for their members. They often gather for worship, religious education, social activities, and community service, creating a cohesive religious community. Recognition and Affiliation: While nondenominational groups may eschew formal denominational labels, they often seek recognition from legal and regulatory bodies, such as tax-exempt status from government authorities. They may also affiliate with broader networks of nondenominational churches or organizations for support and cooperation. In summary, while nondenominational groups may not fit neatly into traditional denominational categories, they still exhibit many characteristics of denominations, including distinct identity, organizational structure, theological perspectives, community, and recognition. Thus, they can be considered a denomination in their own right, albeit one that emphasizes independence and flexibility in religious practice and belief.

Many churches calling themselves non denominational I've seen are very very similar to charismatic Anglicans or Methodists. They say they are non denom yet have almost exactly the same statement of faith as a denomination. Their non denominational idea is not to go back to scripture, but to do things their own way. But then also you can get the rare non-denominational church that just goes by the bible and matches very closely or the same as an IFB church. That's because they have the same stance of letting the bible govern their beliefs.

O God, Our Help in Ages Past Isaac Watts and William Croft 1 Our God, our Help in ages past, our Hope for years to come, our Shelter from the stormy blast, and our eternal Home. 2 Under the shadow of Thy throne Thy saints have dwelt secure; sufficient is Thine arm alone, and our defense is sure. 3 Before the hills in order stood or earth received its frame, from everlasting Thou art God, to endless years the same. 4 A thousand ages in Thy sight are like an ev'ning gone, short as the watch that ends the night before the rising sun. 5 Time, like an ever-rolling stream, bears all its sons away; they fly forgotten, as a dream dies at the op'ning day. 6 Our God, our Help in ages past, our Hope for years to come, be Thou our Guide while life shall last, and our eternal Home!

Be Still, My Soul Katharina von Schlegel and Jean Sibelius 1 Be still, my soul: the Lord is on thy side; Bear patiently the cross of grief or pain; Leave to thy God to order and provide; In ev'ry change He faithful will remain. Be still, my soul: thy best, thy heav'nly Friend Thro' thorny ways leads to a joyful end. 2 Be still, my soul: thy God doth undertake To guide the future as He has the past. Thy hope, thy confidence let nothing shake; All now mysterious shall be bright at last. Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below. 3 Be still, my soul: the hour is hast'ning on When we shall be forever with the Lord, When disappointment, grief, and fear are gone, Sorrow forgot, love's purest joys restored. Be still, my soul: when change and tears are past, All safe and blessed we shall meet at last.

Come, Thou Almighty King Unknown, Felice de Giardini 1 Come, Thou Almighty King, Help us Thy name to sing, Help us to praise: Father, all-glorious, O'er all victorious, Come, and reign over us, Ancient of Days. 2 Come, Thou Incarnate Word, Gird on Thy mighty sword, Our prayer attend: Come, and Thy people bless, And give Thy word success: Spirit of holiness, On us descend. 3 Come, Holy Comforter, Thy sacred witness bear In this glad hour: Thou who almighty art, Now rule in ev'ry heart, And ne'er from us depart, Spirit of pow'r. 4 To the great One in Three Eternal praises be Hence, evermore! His sov'reign majesty May we in glory see, And to eternity Love and adore!

Saviour, Like a Shepherd Lead Us Dorothy A. Thrupp and William B. Bradbury 1 Saviour, like a shepherd lead us, Much we need Thy tender care; In Thy pleasant pastures feed us, For our use Thy folds prepare: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast bought us, Thine we are; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast bought us, Thine we are. 2 We are Thine; do Thou befriend us, Be the Guardian of our way; Keep Thy flock, from sin defend us, Seek us when we go astray: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Hear, O hear us when we pray; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Hear, O hear us when we pray. 3 Thou hast promised to receive us, Poor and sinful tho' we be; Thou hast mercy to relieve us, Grace to cleanse, and pow'r to free: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Early let us turn to Thee; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Early let us turn to Thee. 4 Early let us seek Thy favor; Early let us do Thy will; Blessed Lord and only Saviour, With Thy love our bosoms fill: Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast loved us, love us still; Blessed Jesus, Blessed Jesus, Thou hast loved us, love us still.

Yes, that is true, and nobody is disputing this ...man can't save himself by his own will ..but, he can submit to the Holy Spirits convicting his soul and come to Christ. Repeating verses over and over don't change the FACT that a person must make a conscious decision to follow Christ.

Reader. - On the Cross....Jesus became your sin.........all of it. 2 Corinthians 5:21 On the Cross....Jesus became your sin.........all of it. 2 Corinthians 5:21 Jesus took it all upon Himself and DIED, and it ended there. He didn't come out of the Grave with your sin on Him......He left it, and that is were you sin is found. Its not on you. It's on the Cross of Christ....and its gone if you are born again. When you read that you are "made righteous", having become "the righteousness of God, in Christ", .. that is indeed the reality regarding all the born again. God has established you as "in Christ", "made righteous" and there you remain for as long as God lives. This is why the NT teaches you that : "as Jesus IS........so are the born again, in THIS world". Romans 4:8 says that God does not charge you with your sin. 2 Corinthians 5:19, said that you are not charged with any sin.......not ever again. The CROSS of Christ is the reason why So, who is charged with all your sin???? A.) Jesus on the Cross. = He is your "one time eternal sacrifice for ALL sin". = Not some.....not a few, but ALL sin.......all of it. And you say....."what about what i did yesterday". ALL OF IT. Jesus Became your sin and died for them ALL. "Jesus is the ONE TIME... ETERNAL... sacrifice for sin".. Now, in comes a heretic to tell you......."he is teaching you can live anyway you want". But that is not true. Its not true that because you are as sinless as the Blood of God on the Cross can make you, and that is ' HOLY".. "RIGHTEOUS"...... "one with GOD"......that you can now live like the devil and face no consequences.. As you will reap what you sow = down here.. Sure. Absolutely. You will "reap what you have sown" down here, as that spiritual law didn't end with the Cross of Christ. However, the judgment of God, against your sin, will NEVER FIND YOU now or in eternity, because JESUS has been judged for all your sin on the Cross, 2000 yrs ago. He's died for them all., 2000 yrs ago. WELCOME TO SALVATION ! And Reader, if you are born again.......then when you get this revelation, of being >made righteous<......it will not cause you to want to sin. It will cause you to want to crawl on your hands and knees to the feet of Jesus and wash his feet with your tears and dry His feet with your hair. THAT is what the GRACE of GOD does to you, when you understand it. It HUMBLES you.. and causes you to Love God more and want to please Him more and more and more. Thats a FACT. It will cause you to love God more. It will cause you to become more dedicated to righteous living. iT will cause you to want to please God more than you have ever wanted to before, and it will sustain that, once you get the revelation. It will cause you to say to God...."here is my life, take it God, use me, USE ME".. "I am YOURS">.. Listen... The devil's ministers, first of all, do not want you to know you are eternally : "one with God' "made righteous". They want you to believe you are just a "saved sinner", a discipleship failure, waiting to sin again and confess it again. There false Gospel is Romans 9 and not God's Grace. The truth is, you are a born again SAINT.. You exist as "seated in Heavenly places" in Christ. You. have been MADE RIGHTEOUS, by God's "gift of Righteousness" and "Gift of Salvation". The Blood of JESUS on the Cross has been applied to YOU, and it will keep you CLEAN and "made free from sin", forever. See....Jesus has become your sin, if you are born again, and YOU have become "the righteousness OF GOD, IN CHRIST". Thats who you are, if you are born again. Get the revelation SAINT, and your walk with God will CHANGE so much into HOLY Spirit power and joy and perseverance,... and the New Testament, will begin to reveal to you it's hidden Light. But you have to go here and stay here. = Hebrews 13:9 Jesus took it all upon Himself and DIED, and it ended there. He didn't come out of the Grave with your sin on Him......He left it, and that is were you sin is found. Its not on you. It's on the Cross of Christ....its gone if you are born again, and you are not just some water baptized religious cult member. When you read that you are "made righteous", having become "the righteousness of God, in Christ", .. that is indeed the reality of all the born again. God has established you as "in Christ", "made righteous" and there you remain for as long as God lives. This is why the NT teaches you that : "as Jesus IS........so are the born again, in THIS world". Romans 4:8 says that God does not charge you with your sin. 2 Corinthians 5:19, said that you are not charged with any sin.......not ever again. The CROSS of Christ is the reason why. Im an evangelist who is CALLED to deliver that message., same as Paul....same as you, if you are born again. That is the "message of reconciliation" that is The Gospel of the Grace of GOD. This is the "preaching of the Cross". This is the 'word of Salvation"...>"be you RECONCILED TO GOD".....by the CROSS of Christ. So, who is charged with all your sin???? A.) Jesus on the Cross. He is your "one time eternal sacrifice for ALL sin". = Not some.....not a few, but ALL sin.......all of it. And you say....."what about what i did yesterday". ALL OF IT. Jesus Became your sin and died for them ALL. Now, in comes the devil to tell you......."he is teaching you can live like me", and His online ministers will be the first to tell you that. But that is not true. Its not true that because you are as sinless as the Blood of God on the Cross can make you, and that is ' HOLY".. "RIGHTEOUS"...... "one with GOD"......that you can now live like the devil and face no consequences.. As you will reap what you sow down here.. Sure. Absolutely. But the judgment of God, against your sin, will NEVER FIND YOU now or in eternity, because JESUS has been judged for all your sin on the Cross. He's died for them all., 2000 yrs ago. WELCOME TO SALVATION ! And Reader, and some of you are born again.......when you get this revelation, of being >made righteous<......it will not cause you to want to sin. It will cause you to want to crawl on your hands and knees to the feet of Jesus and wash his feet with your tears and dry His feet with your hair. THAT is what the GRACE of GOD does to you, when you understand it. Thats a FACT. It will cause you to love God more. It will cause you to become more dedicated to righteous living. iT will cause you to want to please God more than you have ever wanted to before, and it will sustain that, once you get the revelation. It will cause you to say to God...."here is my life, take it God, use me, USE ME".. "I am YOURS">.. Listen... The devil's ministers, first of all, do not want you to know you are "one with God' "made righteous". They want you to believe you are just a "saved sinner", a Christian failure, waiting to sin again and confess it again. But that is not the truth. They are lying to you on Forums and from Pulpits... The truth is, you are a born again SAINT.. You exist as "seated in Heavenly places" in Christ. You. have been MADE RIGHTEOUS, by God's "gift of Righteousness" and "Gift of Salvation". The Blood of God on the Cross has been applied to YOU, and it will keep you CLEAN in God's perspective, forever. Jesus has become your sin, if you are born again, and YOU have become "the righteousness OF GOD, IN CHRIST". Thats who you are, if you are born again, and not just some religious water baptized religious fakir. Get the revelation, and your walk with God will CHANGE so much into power and joy and perseverance,... and the New Testament, will begin to reveal to you it's hidden Light. But you have to go here and stay here. God bless you to see it. = Hebrews 13:9

On a Friday night, we watched "Courageous" with our Youth. After the movie, we held a Bible Study session where we used Scripture to support the message conveyed in the film.

Grace That Is Greater Than All Our Sin John Rogers acapella Hymns And Can It Be that I Should Gain? A Capella Hymns

Blessed Assurance Fanny Crosby and Phoebe Palmer Knapp 1 Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine; Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine! Heir of salvation, purchase of God, Born of His Spirit, washed in His blood. CHORUS This is my story, this is my song, Praising my Savior all the day long. This is my story, this is my song, Praising my Savior all the day long. 2 Perfect submission, perfect delight, Visions of rapture now burst on my sight; Angels descending, bring from above Echoes of mercy, whispers of love. CHORUS 3 Perfect submission, all is at rest, I in my Savior am happy and blest; Watching and waiting, looking above, Filled with His goodness, lost in His love. CHORUS

No sir, they are also responsible to government. An unborn child has the God-given right to life. (remember our little post about "rights"?) An who did God make the protector of that right? And the punisher of evildoers? Romans 13: 3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Still...the verse posted to you was clear....Women aren't evil, and their intentions may have been good...still, it says that women should not be teaching in a mixed group. Sorry...don't compare their actions with the actions of Christ and his work on the Sabbath. You're truly lacking in your exegesis.

True, I’ll like to add baptisms of the new believers for membership. Some might say it’s not important.

Reader... Lets get real... Lets keep it real.... The reason that Lordship Salvation is denial of the Cross....Its because the Salvation of God, is.. You were a dirty lost sinner, and you never did anything for God. You loved sin. You never cared about Law, or Commandments, and you thought that "Christ is a crutch for the weak". If you went to church at all it was "Easter" or some Christmas service, and you sat there bored, looking at the "chicks'. Yeah YOU. So, THAT stinking mess of humanity, heard the Gospel, and had a REVELATION that you needed Jesus. So, you came forward, or you kneeled and prayed, and gave God your faith in Christ. You, a hell bound sinning dog..... And now, later, you are trying to teach, prove... that you came to Jesus and knew anything AT THAT TIME, about JESUS being THE LORD? You knew nothing about this.. at THAT TIME. All you knew is that something was happening inside you, and you obeyed it from the heart and God took you, filthy you, and made you clean with the BLOOD of Jesus., by HIS GRACE. And now you "lordship" cult people, want to pretend that AT THAT TIME you had your "Lordship Theology", all lined up. "If Christ is not LORD OF YOUR LIFE< He's not LORD AT ALL".... or "If Jesus is not Lord of all then He's not Lord at all"..... So, i know some carnal words that i acquired before i was born again, that tend to "pop up in my thinking"...... and they fit this "lordship" nonsense perfectly. I"ll refrain. But you get the message, fakirs. -pathetic.

Up from The Grave He Arose Robert Lowry 1 Low in the grave He lay, Jesus my Savior, Waiting the coming day, Jesus my Lord! CHORUS Up from the grave He arose, With a mighty triumph o’er His foes, He arose a victor from the dark domain, And He lives forever, With His saints to reign. He arose! He arose! Hallelujah! Christ arose! 2 Vainly they watch His bed, Jesus my Savior; Vainly they seal the dead, Jesus my Lord! CHORUS 3 Death cannot keep its prey, Jesus my Savior; He tore the bars away, Jesus my Lord! CHORUS

Crown Him With Many Crowns Matthew Bridges and George Job Elvey 1 Crown Him with many crowns, The Lamb upon His throne; Hark! how the heav’nly anthem drowns All music but its own! Awake, my soul, and sing Of Him who died for thee, And hail Him as thy matchless King Through all eternity. 2 Crown Him the Virgin’s Son, The God Incarnate born, Whose arm those crimson trophies won Which now His brow adorn: Fruit of the mystic Tree, As of that Tree the Stem; The Root whence flows Thy mercy free, The Babe of Bethlehem. 3 Crown Him the Lord of Love: Behold His hands and side; Rich wounds yet visible above In beauty glorified: No angel in the sky Can fully bear that sight, But downward bends his burning eye At mysteries so bright. 4 Crown Him the Lord of peace, Whose power a scepter sways From pole to pole, that wars may cease, And all be prayer and praise. His reign shall know no end, And round His pierced feet Fair flowers of glory now extend Their fragrance ever sweet. 5 Crown Him the Lord of years, The Potentate of time. Creator of the rolling spheres, Ineffably sublime. All hail, Redeemer, hail! For Thou hast died for me; Thy praise shall never, never fail Throughout eternity.

Immortal, Invisible, God Only Wise Walter Chalmers Smith 1 Immortal, invisible, God only wise, In light inaccessible hid from our eyes, Most blessed, most glorious, the Ancient of Days, Almighty, victorious, Thy great name we praise. 2 Unresting, unhasting, and silent as light, Nor wanting nor wasting, Thou rulest in might; Thy justice like mountains high soaring above Thy clouds which are fountains of goodness and love. 3 Great Father of glory, pure Father of light, Thine angels adore Thee, all veiling their sight; All praise we would render: O help us to see 'Tis only the splendour of light hideth Thee.

Break Thou the Bread of Life Mary A. Lathbury and William A. Sherwin 1 Break Thou the Bread of Life, dear Lord, to me, As Thou didst break the bread Beside the sea. Beyond the sacred page I seek Thee, Lord; My spirit pants for Thee, O living Word. 2 Thou art the Bread of Life, O Lord, to me; Thy holy Word the truth That saveth me. Give me to eat and live With Thee above, Teach me to love Thy truth, For Thou art love. 3 O send Thy Spirit, Lord, Now unto me, That He may touch my eyes, And make me see. Show me the truth concealed Within Thy Word, That in Thy Book revealed I see Thee, Lord. 4 Bless Thou the Bread of Life To me, to me, As Thou didst bless the loaves By Galilee; Then shall all bondage cease, All fetters fall; And I shall find my peace, My All in all.

Revive Us Again William P. Mackay and John J. Husband 1 We praise Thee, O God! for the Son of Thy love, For Jesus who died and is now gone above. CHORUS Hallelujah! Thine the glory, Hallelujah! amen; Hallelujah! Thine the glory, revive us again. 2 We praise Thee, O God! for Thy Spirit of light, Who has shown us our Savior, and scattered our night. CHORUS 3 All glory and praise to the Lamb that was slain, Who has borne all our sins, and hath cleansed ev'ry stain. CHORUS 4 Revive us again; fill each heart with Thy love, May each soul be kindled with fire from above. CHORUS

Well, only a Christian can have "dead faith".. and only a Christian can "fall from Grace".. and only a Christian can "backslide" and only a Christian can have a "shipwrecked" faith. The fact is.... a believer can become very deceived in their head... especially if Calvinism becomes their mind, as in that case, they will begin to blame God for what the devil does to them and to their life. See : Calvinism blames God for it all, as if the Devil does not exist to cause evil.. It can also be that something that really matters to you, such as your child.. .they can die. and then you say...>"why did YOU let that happen, GOD". And you then Hate God.... And then the newbie believers who have no ministry experience, have never won a soul... want to come and blurb.... "well, if they were really born again they would not be like that'.. But yes they would... .as you can't stop being a HUMAN, no matter how long you are saved. So, the fact is... REAL LIFE can harm and its possible for you to blame God and never go back . And THAT has nothing to do with your Salvation, as Salvaiton is Christ on the Cross, and not how you think later, or behave later.

Agree. The "non-denominational" I attended was basically Baptist in faith and practice. Maybe not IFB Baptist since there was CCM. The difference is they didn't have a Statement of Faith outside of "Jesus Saves". Some would think they weren't even a church since they weren't Baptists.

Right. I have attended several non-denominational groups as a much younger believer in the early to mid 90’s - ones such as Bible Chapels and Christian Centres when I was living in Kelowna. When I moved to Saskatchewan for a couple of years, I checked out those groups there, and they had the same beliefs, practices, etc. That makes them a denomination, despite what they may claim.

Nothing But the Blood Robert Lowry 1 What can wash away my sin? Nothing but the blood of Jesus; What can make me whole again? Nothing but the blood of Jesus. CHORUS Oh! Precious is the flow That makes me white as snow; No other fount I know, Nothing but the blood of Jesus. 2 For my pardon this I see Nothing but the blood of Jesus; For my cleansing this my plea Nothing but the blood of Jesus. CHORUS 3 Nothing can for sin atone Nothing but the blood of Jesus; Naught of good that I have done Nothing but the blood of Jesus. CHORUS 4 This is all my hope and peace Nothing but the blood of Jesus; This is all my righteousness Nothing but the blood of Jesus. CHORUS

Grace Greater Than Our Sin Julia H. Johnston and Daniel B. Towner 1 Marvelous grace of our loving Lord, Grace that exceeds our sin and our guilt, Yonder in Calvary's mount out poured, There where the blood of the Lamb was spilt. CHORUS Grace, grace, God's grace, Grace that will pardon and cleanse within; Grace, grace, God's grace, Grace that is greater than all our sin. 2 Sin and despair like the sea waves cold, Threaten the soul with infinite loss; Grace that is greater, yes, grace untold, Points to the Refuge, the Mighty Cross. CHORUS 3 Dark is the stain that we cannot hide, What can avail to wash it away? Look there is flowing a crimson tide; Whiter than snow you may be today. CHORUS 4 Marvelous, infinite, matchless grace, Freely bestowed on all who believe; You that are longing to see His face, Will you this moment His grace receive? Marvelous grace, Infinite grace, Grace that is greater than all our sin.

Well, I guess comprehension is NOT your strong suit. Thank you for clarifying that for me. Old ploy...care to try again? Apparently you understood nothing. Again, comprehension is a good thing. I'm far from a "baby" Christian, and I have dealt with music for most of my 62 years. I have nowhere intimated that Jesus had to be mentioned in every line. I did however mention that the use of "God" in the song was in the form of common slang among the world. Having written music for many years I am sure I know as much or more about music, lyrics and composition than you. As to your "maturity" as a Christian, if you have to continuously place yourself on a pedestal looking down on others shows you have no humility, and definitely no business telling others anything until you remove that huge log from your own eye. And really, again with the worship of Paul... I have been preaching and teaching since the middle 70s, and 42 years of that in churches across the country.

Not all Jews believe that Hell is not a place of Torment. Of of those who would disagree is Jesus, (The Jew). We live in "the time of the gentiles" and the "end times" are here, so, the Devil knows this and he's doing all He can to deceive. We know that the world is deceived by the "god of this world" and we know that many false prophets are among us, false teachers, pastors, denominations., and even many bibles that are filled with much that is false. So, is it any wonder that Satan would not want you to believe that there is a Hell waiting, just as there is a Heaven offered? Hell is as real as The One who made it for "the devil and his angels", even before Adam and Eve showed up.

I would simply say -- The husband is the "head" of his wife in the same manner that Christ is the "Head" of the church. However that might apply for Christ in relation to the church must have a similar application for the husband in relation to his wife. So, is Christ just a "spiritual leader" for the church; or is Christ the "boss" of the church?

I hope he is truly saved - but too many of these Hollywood/celebrity conversions are just junk, making religious people with no real spiritual substance. Oh, Elon Musk is saved because his interviewers got him to pray with them (with no clear gospel presentation or repentance). Oh, Chris Pratt is saved because he said something about the (universal) Fatherhood of God at a Disney convention recently (of course, you must overlook the fact that he started blaspheming God and using Jesus’ name in vain in several of his recent movies - if he was really taking a stand for Jesus because he got saved, you figure he would stand against using his professed Saviour’s name as a swear word). Be like Justin Bieber - produce basically pornographic music videos as long as you cover yourself with “Jesus tattoos”. Now THAT’s showing love for (the Hollywood) Jesus!!