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  1. It amazes me how many people think that the government is the one that gives us freedom. Freedom comes from our creator. If anyone feels that we have not lost any freedom, then they themselves are enslaved to the government.
    6 points
  2. Huh? Makes no sense. You always had the freedom to stay in the cottage. To now say you have the freedom to read and write is a lie because you always had that freedom as that was always your choice to be in or out of the cottage. Sounds a lot like what Hitler did to gain control. To now call staying in freedom is a lie because you always had that freedom to travel or stay home. That's the mentality I see in dictator leaderships
    5 points
  3. Spoken like a true dictator
    5 points
  4. The only hostility I see is coming from those who believe they have a moral superiority over those who choose not to get the jab(s). Beginning with the White House (sending out a "strike force," pushing for social media and texting to be tracked for "false" information) and trickling on down to people who choose to close their eyes to the deaths caused BY the vaccines. And I know a WHOLE LOT of Trump haters from both parties who will not get jabbed. Possible sterility. Neurological problems. Heart problems, including inflammation. And more. Yeah, folks should really want to inject things into their bodies that can cause that, right? sigh...Again, the hostility is actually coming from those who are trying to guilt or otherwise pressure people into bowing to the god of big pharma, Bill G, and socialism.
    5 points
  5. Hi My fellow Brothers and sisters in Christ. First I apologize my writing is not so great anymore. After years it has declined as my health. I have Lupus mixed connective tissue disease rumitoid arthritis severe Reynolds phenomenon fibromyalgia and emphysema as well mild heart issue. I'm 39 years old my health problems started at the age of 24. It has been a great impact on my life but by Gods good grace I'm here still writing today Amen! But over the last 6 months or so I have felt bad to worse. So many of the things I was still able to do slowly going away and becoming more difficult. I have 4 children at home 2 girls as well 2 boys and a great wife that stays by my side best she can. We attended grace Baptist Church here in Ohio as often as possible Wednesday nights for a hour service as well sundays from 10 until noon lunch at noon until 1. Then more preaching until 2. Are Church is a small country Church but the members we have are so loving and caring. As well my Pastor definitely Blessed to attend each service my health allows me to in The Lords House for worship and fellowship. I'm fully disabled and have been since my illness started and my wife required stay home by government help me through my hard days. Makes everything really hard on the family but Gods good grace we make it. I'm here again new to internet asking if you all please keep me In your Prayers with my appointments coming up as well my health declining now for doctors wisdom and most of all Gods healing hand to help me get better. Pray for my family The Lord help them as well through all of this. Please pray for a fellow Pastor and brother and sister in Christ they moved from Ohio to Texas after retirement a year ago now she is battling cancer really bad and in late 70.s early 80.s. As well my Aunt Karen in Arizona battling cancer the second time this time much worse as well a Baptist and sister in Christ. And another very loving aunt Hilda Baptist and sister in Christ going through serious health problems. All of us need Prayers from all. Thank you everyone.
    4 points
  6. @jeff_student_of_Jesus.....Strange, I recall a Bible verse that says that only the sick need a physician...SCIENCE! Luke was a physician....SCIENCE! Science is not necessarily bad in and of itself. Medicine (pharmaceuticals) are not necessarily a bad thing. I'm diabetic and have to use insulin. I wouldn't die if I didn't take it, being type II, but it is necessary to regulate m my blood sugar, as are the other two medications for the diabetes. I use an inhaler for my asthma and COPD. Again...medication that is necesary for me to breathe. I believe you're incorrect in your assumptions that people who put their trust in science are wrong. There are some scientific breakthroughs that have been very beneficial to mankind. Maybe you need to be rethinking your premise.
    4 points
  7. The "freedom" to make the best of one's cage is not freedom.
    4 points
  8. One of my nieces in Illinois has had the coronavirus for the past 14 days. She is in the hospital and is receiving injections in her stomach, is on oxygen, and will probably be in the hospital for the next week or so. She has a young son who has been exposed to the virus, as has my sister and her husband since my niece lives with them. We were supposed to go to Illinois to meet a brother whom we just discovered last year, but, it looks like we won't be going there, instead going to Indiana to see my birth father. I didn't want to drag the coronavirus over to him since he's dying from stage 4 emphysema. Please pray for my niece and her son, and for her mom and step-dad. They have already had the virus, but that was a while back. Also for my mother who is 79 and has heart problems and lives up in the same town. She's been exposed again. She knows the Lord and is ready to go if he calls her home. I'm sure they would all appreciate your prayers. Also pray for Vivian and I as we go to see my birth father in Indiana and present the Gospel to him once again. Thank-you.
    4 points
  9. I have been witnessing to my birth father and my bonus mom for several years, and my birth father had continued to ask queestions. He is dying of stage 4 emphesyma, and he doesn't have mjuch longer to live. He knows the choice that needs to be made, but has been reluctant to make any decision. He is a former Marine, and is very set in his ways. His other children from this marriage have all been incarcerated at one time or another, and are leading very worldly lives...one brother being in Orlando, hooked on drugs, the other brother living in the Louisville, KY area, just miles away from our father, shacked up with a woman, and my 1/2 sister, also living in the Louisville, KY/Clarksville, IN area also hooked on prescription drugs. My nieces and nephews by my brothers and sisters on this side of the family have all been witnessed to, but they were raised mainly by my birth father and his wife, and have the same reluctance to accept the Gospel of Christ, one of them telling me she was a member of a coven of witches. Please continue to pray for all of these. My wife and I are planning on making a trip up to the Corydon, IN area to see my father and bonus mom. It would be the first time in 26 years I have seen either one of them. We do communicate via phone nearly four times a month. I need to see my father before he passes away. Your prayers are coveted. Thank you.
    4 points
  10. My medical decisions should be between my doctor and I.
    4 points
  11. Salyan

    The Day of Creation

    I agree that an exact date isn’t needed, but there is value to establishing that ‘in the beginning’ Was 6000-ish years ago rather than millions of years.
    4 points
  12. We decided to have one thread about Covid instead of having countless threads covering the same topic. Since this still a hot topic in the world today we don't want not talk about it regardless of beliefs. Whatever you opinion is on covid, this is where you we'll talk about it. All new threads will be closed so please post covid-19 related topics in this thread..
    3 points
  13. Our present and previous administration has failed us with the vaccine. They turned the vaccine into a political agenda and Biden lied about the vaccine just the other day in the CNN town hall meeting (not the part where he rambles about the men on the moon and aliens), and his administrations has not been transparent about the vaccine. It's all been about votes. Sad!!! Thus the hesitancy. I honesty believe this would be different about the vaccine if our politicians told the truth from the beginning.
    3 points
  14. Great answer! Yes freedoms are given by God. God uses governments at His discretion to defend those freedom. For a government to do nothing when laws are violated is the same as condoning the illegal activity and threatens the freedom of the people of that nation. Government here in the states is doing nothing on multiple fronts. I won't take advantage of the current administrations lack of mental prowess to act on behalf of their own citizenry, others have aided and abetted them (i.e. Clinton, Obama, G.W. Bush). I pray for their salvation instead.
    3 points
  15. It also gave you the freedom (excuse) to not attend without drawing criticism. Hebrews 10:25 (KJV) Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
    3 points
  16. Since Covid has a 99.8% recovery rate, it is safe to say that almost no one has died from Covid alone. By the way, the 99.8% recovery rate includes those that died from complications brought on by Covid and/or pre-existing conditions. Most that died died from complications brought on by Covid, would likely have also died from the seasonal Flu; of which, over time, many more have died from than Covid.
    3 points
  17. As I had posted in one of the forums (believe it was the prayer forum), I went to Illinois this past weekend to meet a brother my other siblings never knew we had. He was found through a blood test by 23 and Me when my baby sister from that side of the family took the blood test to find out if she had any issues in her blood. Little did she know that it would lead to us finding out about this sibling. So, it was by the grace of God that we found out. It had been a lifelong dream of Shawn's to find his birth father. He had taken the tests in hopes of finding out who he was. He was disappointed to find out that Dad had passed away in 2000 from colon cancer, but, was greatly excited by the discovery that he had many siblings from his father's second marriage! My sister Becky, from Pekin, IL, and my sister Michele, whom had flown from Augusta, GA to Peoria, IL, and my wife and I, who of course, drove up to Pekin, IL from Murfreesboro, TN were the only ones who could make the trip to meet Shawn, but this was good! We got to face time with our brother, Mike and his wife Melenda (from outside of Tampa Bay), which made Shawn's day! He has received a very warm, loving embrace from my family. My mother has adopted him as her second son, in line of succession, me being the oldest. Shawn is one year younger than I, with Mike following two years behind Shawn. We showed Shawn around that town we grew up in, ate at our fathers favorite diner in Pekin, IL, the Busy Corner Grill, and spent several hours talking with him at Becky's house and at the hotel where we both stayed during our visit to Pekin. It was a GREAT visit, PTL! We are praying that Shawn and his family (his daughter, son-in-law, son and daughter-in-law, mother and grandchild) will come to know the Lord Jesus Christ. We covet your prayers as we continue to get to know Shawn and the rest of our newfound relatives in Boise. Thank you.
    3 points
  18. Unfortunately, Jesus is not the person you were speaking to here. It’s only us, and we can’t read your mind. Your response above, although slightly condescending, utilizes a much more straightforward sentence structure than usual. We would be grateful if you could continue that trend.
    3 points
  19. Why me? To elaborate on my answer to Tony, I took the question as general - we the people, rather than specifically Christians. The question of whether we are actually being persecuted for our faith is much harder to answer at this point. But generally - and in my area of the world (because it's also location-dependent), yes. Canadian citizens are guaranteed free passage within Canada - yet this last few months saw us forbidden from entering different provinces - either at all, or without quarantining or vaccination. Canadians are guaranteed freedom of religion, assembly and association in our Charter of Rights - yet in Alberta (which has been the freest province - it's kind of the Texas of Canada ), we have seen limits on church attendance - as low as 5 distanced people - which were not similarly put on other corporations. This is a limit on our freedom of religion, assembly & association. We have been forbidden from having other people - even close family members - in our homes. This is a limit of our freedom of association. We have been forbidden from having outside gatherings of more than people. This is a limit on our freedom of assembly. The Charter allows for these rights to be temporarily removed for pressing reasons (such as a real pandemic), but the government must prove the need for these. In Alberta, several court cases have asked the government to provide this information THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD BEFORE LIMITING ANY CHARTER FREEDOMS, and they do not have it to provide. They stall, ask for more time to gather it (after 14 months of Covid!), and ultimately provided nothing. This means that they have unlawfully removed our Charter rights. In the last few months, our government in Alberta (whether provincial or federal) have restricted, removed the ability to, or required government permission to: Go to church with more than X people - smallest number being 5 (Alberta was the freest province for this. BC, Ontario and Manitoba have had months where churches were not permitted to be open at all.) Sing to God Sing at all Visit family/friends in their home Visit family/friends outside their home Go to a funeral Attend a wedding Check on or visit seniors in their nursing homes Leave your nursing home (if you're a senior) Have family with you as you die Have family with you in the hospital as a child or maternity patient Receive medical care without masking (even if you're allergic to masks or asthmatic or otherwise incapable of wearing one) Visit our national parks/camp outside Purchase necessities Go to school Go to work Open your small business to make a living (particularly restaurants, personal care and gyms) Protest Hold an event/stampede/parade/concert/literally anything Hug your grandma Stand within 6 feet of someone else (this is actually a health order - a kind of law - that we aren't allowed to do this) Travel freely between towns (Alberta has actually been one of the better ones for this - merely 'discouraging' rather then enforcing. In Ontario, they were actively restricting movement between municipalities within the province. With police checks and everything! Travel freely between provinces (Alberta is actually okay for this - BC has discouraged travel with limited enforcement. The Maritimes have closed their borders to visitors and now the unvaccinated completely.) Leave the country by land (can't do it, period.) Enter the country (to fly into Alberta as a Canadian citizen requires a $3000 3-day stay at a sub-par secured hotel facility. If you have failed to get the right test before returning, you may be removed to an undisclosed location for the full quarantine period. This is a requirement - you are not free to go home without risking severe fines. Oh, but if you're not a Citizen? You don't have to do this. It's only for Canadian citizens.) Leave your home after traveling even if not sick Breathe freely This isn't even a full list... I KNOW there's more I'm not remembering, but there's been so many for so long - I'm forgetting them all now! We're not full-blown communist yet, but looking at this list, we hit totalitarian several months ago. Regardless of one's position on the dangers of Covid, allowing a government to exert this level of control is dangerous.
    3 points
  20. I fear that both sides (including me) are beginning to devolve to name calling, and this thread is going in circles. In the interests of keeping us civil, I’m going to lock this thread. Bill, more than one moderator have expressed a desire to see fewer (or no) Covid threads. I won’t lock any other current threads (unless they similarly devolve), but as requested earlier, you are to refrain from beginning any new Covid threads. If you do so, they will be hidden, and you may receive a warning. Let’s see if we can find common ground in God’s Word and take a break from all this fear-mongering from both sides.
    3 points
  21. I fail to understand why anyone would get an (a) experimental injection (not formally accepted for permanent vaccine use) that (b) already has more reported adverse affects than all vaccines ever to (c) protect them from a flu with a better than 99.9% survival rate (and that’s counting all the deaths wrongfully attributed to Covid), that (d) has a decent, cheap alternative treatment available, and that (e) a good number of us have already had, survived, and developed permanent antibodies for. What truly frightens me is the blind trend to trusting this experimental injection, and resisting such obvious alternative measures for resistance such as antibody testing. But then they couldn’t train the whole world to accept and even force global acceptance of a ‘vaccine’/injection/identifier. Smacks of preparation for the Mark. Christians should resist this mindset if only for that reason! (puts on moderator hat) Bouncing Bill, you are spamming our board with Covid threads. There are other things to talk about. I strongly suggest you try a new topic for future posts.
    3 points
  22. Two separate missionaries in Taiwan (which is on soft lockdown now) have recently had people saved through their online services. One was a lady watching the online Sunday school service with her daughter and called the missionary to come to her house to explain salvation in detail and she was saved. The other was similar, watching the online service with her daughter and was saved. The gospel being preached is the main thing no matter if it's in person or online.
    3 points
  23. To me there is nothing like carrying a Bible in my hands. For a few reasons. It is easier for me to read paper than digital screen. I have a very short attention span. Where was I? oh yeah... Don't need to charge it. It is a great conversation starter when carrying a Bible in public. I have noticed in our church that people that use their phones as Bibles, don't pay attention as much. May have to do with notifications and so forth. I am not against the use of digital Bibles or technology, I just find their is nothing like having God's Word in your hands.
    3 points
  24. This thread is NOT about whether to get the vaccine or not, but it's about the government control on the vaccine. Also I will not apologize for not trusting the government and trusting Science instead. Please stop turning every thread into the vaccine. The purpose of this thread is the door to door of the government's efforts. This type of decision should be discussed between myself and my doctor, not Joe Biden's minions. I have absolutely no problem at all with you or anyone getting the vaccine. I guess I just would like for you to treat me with the same attitude. I do thank you for your concern. I do not believe anyone that does not get the vaccine wishes ill on anyone whether they refuse or take the vaccine.
    3 points
  25. Stop calling this a vaccine, none of the "vaccine's" vaccinates anyone. J&J even admits it. (not talking about you Bro Tony)-
    3 points
  26. PastorMatt

    Kindness

    Yes, there are a lot of organizations that exists that don't show kindness...BLM for one
    3 points
  27. Brother Matt & Brother Tony, are you interested in receiving a sample copy of the booklet? If so, let me know your mailing address through private message. Sample copy would be sent with no cost to you.
    2 points
  28. This is a tricky question because under these governments in the Bible nobody had the right to vocally disagree with the government (well, you could but you'd probably lose your head), protest, "redress of grievances", no elections were held except among the elites, no constitutional rights (although, a Roman had special rights beyond a non-Roman). It's true a lot of our freedoms are an illusion but for the most part we have a right under our form of government to oppose on many matters but ultimately a vote among people was to settle the matter. Unfortunately, votes don't matter anymore or at least half of Americans think that. When people think the game is rigged is when the violence comes. Remember the old saying, "Perception can be reality". There's also no doubt there are two sets of standards in America now which can be observed on a daily basis. What the standard of law is now, except in very extreme cases, is whatever is politically expedient for those in power and their wealthy/influential supporters. My opinion, for a believer, it comes down to testimony and saving your own neck. By saving your own neck is you have to decide if your civil disobedience will get you or your family unnecessarily harmed. Not every hill is worth dying upon. Example: Paul could have spoken up about the evils of slavery but would it realistically have changed anything? It probably would have gotten him an early exit from this world and gotten many other Christians harmed. So, better yet, teach subjection to your master and being a testimony of the gospel for him to see so he may be saved. Our main goal in this life is not demanding our rights but being a testimony for Jesus Christ.
    2 points
  29. Decades ago I made the mistake of reading the ingredients on the side of a potted mean can. I have not dared to eat it again.
    2 points
  30. Oh I completely agree. I occasionally watch YouTube videos of these guys for entertainment purposes. The compilations they've done on Jim Bakker and his guest's are beyond normal and hilarious watching him trying to sell those food buckets for thousands of dollars. Copeland and hIs crew are on a different level. Between him, his wife, and Billy Bryne (spelling?)...I can't stand to watch them for more than ten minutes.
    2 points
  31. While churches should never try to make an "online virtual church" (not a real church) they also shouldn't exclude any type of media because the great commission compels us to use all mediums to reach the world for Christ. To exclude TV radio, tracts news papers, online video, or audio podcast, etc. just to protest a part of the modern world would be a mistake. In the world but not of the world includes being salt and light online as well as at the door step.
    2 points
  32. There is a big difference between what you personally feel God wants you to do as an individual, and someone claiming an objective fact based on their own “conviction”. I suppose the important question is what is ones “conviction” based on. Ones “convictions” might not necessarily correlate with reality always. Just because someone has a “conviction” does not make something factually true. Often peoples “convictions” are based on the current (and sometimes false or misleading) knowledge that we have. There are many people who have “convictions” that are nothing more than them adopting and following the examples they have seen modeled or taught to them by a respected source. These sources may or may not be correct at times. In other words we ought to be careful what we base our convictions on. I guess my point is personal convictions have no bearing on what is or is not true. I mean you having a conviction about something has zero binding authority on any one else nor does your conviction necessarily determine reality. There is a huge difference between having a conviction that you should personally use the KJV and the KJV is perfect. You feeling like you should exclusively use the KJV is not making a declaration about truth or reality for others. I have zero problems with that. Its quite different to assert that the KJV is perfect based on a conviction and to state that conviction as if it has any kind of authority to declare reality or determine truth.
    2 points
  33. A dangerous precedent for government officials to be thinking in these terms. borders on newspeak and a precursor terminology that dictators use to justify division and deadly force against the populace.
    2 points
  34. I hear crickets.
    2 points
  35. Yes, but anyone who is a threat to the reset will lose their rights aka be persecuted. There were other groups that suffered along with Christians during the times of persecution. The Muslims killed Christian, Jew, Hindu, pagan and the wrong type of Muslim alike throughout history. The Papists were butchering Jews, Christians, pagans and even Catholics who opposed their "overreach" or whose property they wanted. The Communists treat everyone fairly and murdered everyone equally. When the Antichrist shows up he won't persecute only believers. There will, IMO, be people who will not submit to his authority but who are also not believers.
    2 points
  36. Thank God for this miraculous body He gave us!
    2 points
  37. Bill, you really are obsessed with Covid arent you? You can post links from liberal websites (who most likely are financially invested in vaccines) all you want you won't change anybody's mind in here especially via "authoritative sources" nobody trusts. If any of us in this forum gets the vaccine it will be because we feel time has proven the vaccine to be safe or the government points a gun at our heads. Your figure wagging will never work.
    2 points
  38. No. I can not trust a doctor who funded the "research" of scalping five month old aborted babies and having the scalps implanted on rats. That is Josef Mengele territory there.
    2 points
  39. SureWord

    Racism

    So we are all White and Asian inside?
    2 points
  40. I went out today and mentioned to one person that I was sent to let them know about the vaccine for sin that's 100% effective. lol
    2 points
  41. A little off topic but my pastor friend in Upstate, NY, Clarence Hafelin, went to every door in the town of Hamilton. Then he helped a pastor up in Maine knock on every door in the town he started his church in I forget the town. It took him a few weeks to do it. Here's his church website: https://www.amazinggracekjv.com
    2 points
  42. I trust Fauci about as far as I can throw his new yacht.
    2 points
  43. SureWord

    My Brother

    OK, so my older brother, who was a big influence on me getting saved when I was 18, is back in church and it's an IFB church. His wife said he really likes it so far. Pray that God really gets ahold of him. He was going to an IFB church for years but something happen that really burned him. Then he went to a Southern Baptist but never cared for the CCM music and the Church politics but loved the pastor. After he moved he went to a non-denominational but thought the men were weak and effeminate. Then a home bible study until the man leading the study sadly committed suicide. He said he's back into an IFB church because of the traditional music and he thinks the men of the church are not wimps. Lol...hey, whatever I see no problem with it. Just pray that he stays with it. I think God called him years ago to minister to young people but he got sidetracked from it. Teenagers really like him and used to like going over his house when his son's were teenagers because he is kind of a man's man. Not a macho tough guy just kind of the old school dad who could fix and build all kinds of things unlike me...lol. Anyway, please pray for him. Thanks and God bless you.
    2 points
  44. Your president is (likely) senile, and our prime minister is a poster boy with delusions of dictatorship. We’re both in trouble.
    2 points
  45. Breaking news: Leaked picture of the first guy that went door to door in Biden's attempt to vaccinate.
    2 points
  46. My vacination card is on file in my personal home medical record. I typed in my name and signed it and keep it with my health papers at home.
    2 points
  47. Rebecca

    Kindness

    Yes, many organizations exist where the members do not show kindness one toward another or the general public. Often, in order to keep their jobs, kindness is faked towards each other and the general public, it's a display and (almost) everyone knows it. Other times kindness is nonexistent most of the time. Examples include Walmart, any fast food chain, various airlines, social media (facebook, twitter, etc), sports teams, the list could go on. Even some organizations you think would be based on kindness are some of the worst/hateful: PeTA, ASPCA, my local animal shelter before it was shut down and rebranded, etc.
    2 points
  48. @Konstantin, you still here?
    2 points
  49. SureWord

    "Good" Friday?

    Today's the Shabbat. Shouldn't you be at the synagogue?
    2 points
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