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Lol…. So the tests which can’t tell the difference between colds and Covid are saying there’s an omicron surge? I think it’s called the winter flu season… It is the government that is disrupting lives with their unconstitutional measures.

Razor, you are on a Christian message board - and you are pushing your personal opinion on the vaccine. I find it funny that you declare most people here wrong, when it is your personal choice and people are making their own personal choices based on their consciences and their personal convictions from the Bible. Unless they contradict the Bible, you are in no position to declare them wrong.

In this post I wish to respond concerning the question over the second half of 1 John 2:23. And within the second to last paragraph of that which you posted on my personal profile: By the fact that you have repeated this case to me three different times, it seems that it is important to you. So then -- Your presentation of this case is somewhat false (and thus somewhat manipulative and deceptive). You provide us with THREE options to choose (which all turn out to be false options), but you neglect to provide the FOURTH option wherein the truth is actually found. The three options that you provide to us for the case concerning the second half of 1 John 2:23 are as follows: 1. The King James translators just made up this portion of 1 John 2:23, and thus took liberties with the Holy Scriptures by adding these ten words. (I answer -- This option is false.) 2. The King James translators received this portion of 1 John 2:23 from the devil. (I answer -- This option is false.) 3. The King James translators received this portion of 1 John 2:23 as an "advance revelation" from God the Holy Spirit. (This is the option that you desire for us to choose; however, I again answer -- This option is false). Now, these were the only three options that you offered us. Yet there is a fourth option that you neglected to offer us, as follows: 4. The King James translators included this portion of 1 John 2:23 because it already existed in previous sources of Holy Scripture, sources which they did indeed have available to them for their consideration. Brother West, you yourself attempted to cancel this option as even being possible with the following statements: The problem here is that you are wrong about what the King James translators had available to them. In truth, they did NOT develop these "10 words" completely new for the King James translation. In truth, the second half of 1 John 2:23 ALREADY EXISTED in previous English translations. Although it was not included in the 1526 Tyndale, the 1537 Matthews, or the 1560 Geneva translations, it WAS included in the 1395 Wycliffe translation and in the 1568 Bishop's Bible, which certainly were available to the King James translators for their consideration. Furthermore, this second half of 1 John 2:23 was also found in the Latin Vulgate, in the Syriac, Ethiopic, Coptic, Armenian, and Aramaic translations/versions, in Luther's German translation of 1545, in the Spanish Sagrada Escrituras of 1569, and in the Italian Diodati of 1649, which were also available to the King James translators for their consideration. Finally, although this second half of 1 John 2:23 was not included in Stephanus' Greek text of 1550, it WAS indeed found in Beza' Greek text of 1598. Indeed, this portion of 1 John 2:23 WAS found in various Greek texts that the King James translators certainly had available to them for their consideration. Therefore, in the particular case of 1 John 2:23, the use of italicized words does NOT indicate that the King James translators were unaware of any source support for the second half of the verse. So, why then did they put the second half of the verse in italics? Since (as far as I am aware) none of the King James translators communicated their reasoning in print, and since none of them remain alive today to ask, we can only speculate. One possible answer is that some of the King James translators were not as confident as others about the authenticity for that portion of 1 John 2:23. Thus in order to demonstrate THEIR HUMILITY (as per your own declaration of their character, Brother West -- "To say that these learned translators were humble would be an understatement"), those who were less confident humbly allowed it to be included; and those who were more confident humbly allowed it to be placed in italics. Another possibility is that the King James translators believed that the second half of 1 John 2:23 should be included, but they placed it italics in order to humbly acknowledge that it was not included in previously accepted English translations of the Holy Scriptures. (Note: As for myself, I find that there is more than enough source evidence for its authenticity. Even so, I have NO doubts against it.)

Oh, you have no clue. There are thousands upon thousands of people who have done their own research and know to question the government’s lies. After all, Science is the process of questioning existing theories - so I’d argue by questioning their data, and finding it false, we are doing science better than you. ?

Razor, did you join just to push the government Covid narrative? Because if so, just… don’t…

Oh, we knew it was a faulty test before. But for the CDC to finally give in and stop using it is a new thing.

It certainly isn't God messing with our dna, enforcing government control worldwide, causing people to lose jobs and their source of income (like employment insurance or pension), or attempting to force them to go against their conscience to take a questionable cure that is overall causing more problems than it is solving.

The science is not all on the side of the vaccine - there are scientific reasons for not getting a vaccine that messes with your DNA, scientific reasons for not getting vaccines with heavy metals in it or microchips in it. So forget the idea that science is all on your side and we are just unscientific. And again, this is a fundamental Baptist website that attempts to focus on the Bible. You are coming in here and trying to force unbiblical (or nonbiblical) views. If you came in for any other reason than fellowshipping over the Word of God, then you are in the wrong place.

And I hate to break it to you Bro. Tony, but not all that claim to be "Independent Fundamental Baptist churches", are. Anyone can claim to be anything, doesn't mean that they actually are. You can put any name you want on a church, but if it doesn't preach the truth, it is not a church on the order of the church that Jesus instituted.

I was wondering what Razor's response would be to the information that Salyan posted about CDC dropping the bombshell of saying that the PCR tests are faulty would be. Now we know. I, for one, would think that the information from the inventor of the test would carry some weight, given that he stated that his test was not designed to detect Covid19. I guess he must have been a "denier" also!

This seems to be an extremely speculative question. For instance, how do we, or you, know that there is "so much sickness amongst Christians that goes unhealed"? It automatically assumes that there is more sickness that goes unhealed among Christians than there is in the general population, but what if, in fact, this is not true? As for myself, I would hesitate to try to answer a question that is based on assumptions and unknowns.

Sadly, there's not real proof that this is the Omicron variant...if there IS such a thing. This virus allegedly doesn't have the kind of mortality that the delta variant had...if they can actually tell the difference between the two strains.

A cheap, effective Covid therapeutic made from over-the-counter ingredients discovered. FDA and Fauci will probably crush it, though. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/scientist-surprised-discovery-99-effective-cheap-covid-treatment/ A new vaccine which is a traditional inoculation and not gene therapy and doesn't use aborted babies in it's development is on the horizon. Will the FDA OK it though? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/finally-promising-covid-vaccine-pro-lifers/

Hey, Brother Tony, in my life I have found the majority wrong in morals, manners, and politics. Why should I be surprised here that the majority is wrong on this issue?