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  1. I believe if we practice some of the "vices" the church father practiced like drinking and smoking cigars (mainly speaking of Spurgeon, who is a hero to so many here) then it should be okay for me to go back to smoking a pack a day of Benson and Hedges 100's...right? I'm being facetious, so don't have a cow! LOL If we truly knew what all transpired in the lives of many of the "church fathers" we would definitely change our minds on relying on them as part of our opinions on Scripture. Scriptures should ALWAYS be the first thing we got to for guidance.
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  2. It is my firm belief that we Christians must use the Bible to evaluate sociological tools and not the other way around. It appears that ill-meaning groups would attempt to impose social engineering tools or systems on the Christian's Bible based practice of faith. I believe this effort formed under the administration of the 44th president and continues under the current administration. Case in point is critical race theory proponents desiring Christians to evaluate their Biblically held faith practice and doctrines in light of the new theories of "personal and systemic racism."
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  3. I've read SOME of the materials from these books. I have friends who purchased them. But, I don't spend a LOT of time reading books about C-19. I have too many relatives in the medical field, and I know too many doctors and pharmacists who never believed that this was a pandemic. I tend to agree with them just for the facts that the death rate that is allegedly FROM C-19 is greatly inflated and that the recovery rate from the "virus" is far too high for this to be considered a pandemic of any sort. The Health Care industry and many in the government tried to instill fear in people through the
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  4. Hugh_Flower

    if my people...

    I think you guys are being sensational. The whole world is moving in this direction. This is not just “America being delivered” this is the foreshadowing of what is to come, this is the preparation for the anti christ. I know that sounds ironic in that manner of “sensational”
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  5. Just like anyone else the Church Fathers need to be judged in the light of scripture.
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  6. Yeah, 'church fathers' ..I realise is too broad. There the thing of Catholicism and their main teachers. And also reformed church teachers. Early on there was already false teachers, pagan practices, idol worship and bishops taking power over multiple congregations. I guess I get to feeling a bit alone in my beliefs at times. Going back to the bible is the thing
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  7. Came to say the same thing. It doesn’t matter what some guys thought (especially when we don’t know who they were and whether they were heretics). What does the Bible say?
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  8. Pastor Markle's post is right on. This whole "church fathers" thing has been blown out of all proportion. It lends itself perfectly to the Universal-Invisible church heresy.
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  9. As far as I am aware, it is true that SOME of them did; but NOT necessarily that all of them did. On the other hand, in my own opinion the "church fathers" are NOT a good source of authority for true doctrine. In truth, the ONLY Biblically defined "church fathers" would be the original "apostles and prophets" of the first century church, with our Lord Jesus Christ himself being "the chief corner stone" (as per Ephesians 2:20). In my opinion the rest of the so-called "church fathers" were simply commentators and teachers of their respective time, just as we have in our time; and I believ
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  10. Bouncing Bill

    Tobacco Use

    Cigar smoking is very detrimental to your health. Cigar smoking has been linked to, cancer of the oral cavity, larynx, esophagus, and lung. It may also cause cancer of the pancreas. Moreover, daily cigar smokers, particularly those who inhale, are at increased risk for developing heart disease and other types of lung disease. https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/tobacco/cigars-fact-sheet#:~:text=and other diseases%3F-,Yes.,other types of lung disease. Pipe smokers also face health risks pipe smokers face an elevated risk of cancers of the mouth, includi
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  11. Jordan Kurecki

    Tobacco Use

    I have never understood why tobacco is viewed in the same vain as things like fornication or drunkenness and what not. Not that I think smoking is really the best thing for people. I don't understand why it's acceptable for someone to be 300 pounds and obese and no one says anything, but if someone smokes they are treated as if they are a fornicator.
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