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  1. 10 points
    Dear brothers and sisters in Christ: I apologize for my lengthy absence from Online Baptist. The past year has been quite difficult and I'd not had the energy to spend the time here I'd hoped. As the Lord permitted, I was given strength to write articles for a Christian publication ("Rapture Ready") for over the last 2-3 years, and spent what energy I had on that. I also have been away so long I had no idea where to post this, nor under what topic. So please forgive me if I erred. My photo from before has disappeared as well, and I likely didn't upload a replacement properly either. The news I have to share today is that the time has come not to say "good-bye", but to say: "We'll meet in heaven." I have stage four cancer. I'm not going to pursue chemo nor radiation (etc.), but have instead signed on for Hospice. The cancer has spread to lymph nodes and bone (likely other places as well). At least one tumor has also spread to to local areas (invasively) and is inoperable. It would only prolong the suffering to try any attempts at chemo (etc.) at this point. It's urethral cancer, which is not only rare, but also extremely aggressive. So there isn't much time left. No doctor can give an exact time-line. But the oncologist said 5 months would be the absolute maximum. Honestly? I can't see it being more than a month, maybe two at most (just my opinion - going on how miserable I am and how quickly it's spreading and tumors are enlarging and manifesting here and there). But the Lord alone knows. His will be done. I do so appreciate prayer. However, I humbly request that none would pray for healing; but instead pray "God's will be done". And if you would, please pray for pain relief and continual relief of pain. I also request that you'd pray for the Lord's comfort for my family and dearest friends during this time. Very much appreciated. Although I'm saddened that this is hard for my parents, children, grandchildren, and dear friends; I think most of them understand that I'm not (personally) sad about the prognosis. As most know, I've had primary progressive MS, spinal cord disease (syringomyelia) and myriad other health issues for over a decade. Life has been an "existence" for many years. One I appreciated still, but was often very painful and difficult. I've been house-bound and bed-bound for several years now. I am looking forward to a release from the pain and suffering in this life, and anticipating the fulfillment of promises God has made in His word for eternity to come for those who've trusted and believed on Jesus for salvation. Please don't pity me in the least. "...I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." (2 Tim.1:12). God has given me the "peace that passeth understanding" (Phil.4:7) and keeps my heart and mind through Christ Jesus. I also have the firm comfort and assurance of the pre-trib rapture, wherein all church/grace-age believers will meet the Lord in the air. The "dead in Christ shall rise first", then those who are "alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." The Lord will soon give church/grace-age believers incorruptible bodies just like Jesus own glorified body (1 John 3:2; Phil.3:20-21; 1 Cor.15:49-53; 1 Thes.4:13-18; et al) at the rapture. While some brethren here may disagree with this doctrine, I am fully convinced of the scriptural surety that the rapture is indeed pre-tribulational. And that Jesus has promised to deliver us from the wrath to come (1 Thes.1:10, 5:1-9; Rom.5:9). So also do I know that scripture proves the rapture to be imminent (nothing need proceed the timing). However, I also believe the rapture is now much more than imminent, but also must soon occur, as much of end time Bible prophecy is aligned in stunning accuracy. I would never dare set date. Yet we are given to know and discern the season which we are now in. Brethren and sisters, I do believe that the rapture is so near that should I physically die first, I do believe all in Christ will soon be raptured and we will all meet together in the air. I very much appreciate the fellowship and past discussion here on OB. So many dear brethren and sisters have touched my life, edified me, and I count you all a blessing. Continue on serving the Lord, knowing that our labor is not in vain in the Lord, and that His word does not return void. Much love, See you soon. Maranatha!!!
  2. 8 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    This argument is a "Straw Man" and meant to deflect answering a genuine opinion from someone else that views the subject differently. I've studied the qualifications and credits of the original translators and I will take their translation abilities over yours in a heartbeat. Oh, and I'll also take their ability in the form of the KJV. Please keep in mind, although I am certain you have; that this message forum is exclusively KJV and will remain so long after you have gone, as will my opinion. If you came here with the intention of changing it, or to cause trouble over our use of the KJV, you may as well give it up, you will not succeed.
  3. 6 points

    Hubs in the hospital...

    I would appreciate prayer for my husband, Randy. I will try to sum up what seems to me a long story...but this is going to be long. I'm sorry about that! Thursday morning while Randy was at a client's home, he went out to shovel. In these parts, black ice is a real and present danger during the winter. Well, he fell on black ice. His right leg went under him, and his left leg hyper-extended. He managed to get up (he was right by the van's bumper) but fell again right away. He rolled to the pavement, where there was no ice. Got up and began going back to the house, and fell in the snow. Three falls within a matter of minutes. Someone with Factor V Leiden's isn't supposed to be doing those shenanigans. So he came home. How he got into the van, drove, and got up the steps into the house is beyond me - other than God helped him greatly. Because he could hardly walk at all. He got into a chair and I got the heating pad, etc. He thought it was a badly pulled muscle. By now it was almost 11 am. I knew he was in agony, because he would never, ever leave work for just a little bit of pain. He has a very high pain tolerance (many times I will notice him favoring something and will ask how he's doing - he always answers that he's fine...). So about 12:30 he said he thought I might need to call the ambulance. He didn't think he would be able to get down the stairs, down the icy hill, into the van with only my help (to take him to the emergency room). I let our son know, and he said he was getting off work to come help. By 1, Randy was certain he needed an ambulance. So I called them. They got there pretty quickly, thankfully. They were great. They couldn't bring in the stretcher because our ramp was too slick, so they used a blanket to carry him outside. As they rolled him, he hollered out in pain. We have been married almost 33 years, and he has gone through a lot of physically painful things. But I have NEVER heard him holler like that. Never. That was about my undoing. Our son had gotten here by then, but was waiting on the road by our driveway (due to the snow, there was nowhere for him to park if he came up the driveway, and he would have been in the way of the ambulance). He came into the house and headed straight for me to wrap me in a tight hug. That was absolutely what I needed at that moment. I was never more thankful that God moved him up here. So Josh drove me to the hospital. We were in the emergency room for hours as they tested him. (it seemed like years...especially when we saw the date the nurse had written on the white board: Feb 14, 2014. LOL) They found a DVT that was already on its way down his leg - it stretched from his groin to his knee (two years ago it went from his groin to his foot). Doctors have concluded that it is a result of his accident - physical trauma to someone with Factor V can quickly cause clots...and I guess he has to do even that all the way, with major clots LOL). They tried to have him stand. He almost passed out, so the doc laid him back down quickly. And he just laid there with a blank stare for about a minute. Scared me so very badly. So they brought in some pain meds and muscle relaxers, thinking that it might be a pulled muscle. An hour later, they wanted to try and have him stand again (they wanted to send him home, but they couldn't until they knew he could walk). He couldn't even sit with his legs over the bed (he was holding his left leg up so it wouldn't touch the bed and was still in so much pain). So they decided to admit him. He got to his room about 11:30 pm (and we time traveled from 2-14-2014 to 2-15-2019 LOL). We left the hospital about 12:30 and got back to our road a little after 1. Well, as I said, our private road doesn't get plowed. And nobody that lives on the road believes in shoveling, I guess. (Randy would have done some once we were plowed out had he had a chance). So great big piles of slushy frozen snow met us. With one set of tracks. Josh headed up the hill, got about halfway and started spinning. So he backed up - the snow pulled him over one of the frozen piles and we got stuck. Josh got out to check and we were good and stuck. He started doing what he could. As I sat there, I was a bit overwhelmed. So I began to pray. While I was praying, I reminded the Lord about how quickly He helped Peter when Peter cried "Lord, save me!". I told the Lord we needed immediate help. I kid yo not...within minutes (could have been seconds) I saw car lights coming down the road. Now, understand this is 1:30 in the morning, in a super-rural area. Folks are just not out and about during that time. ESPECIALLY in this weather (which is so unusual for this area). The man pulled up immediately and got out of his car. He looked things over, and then said he had a shovel. Now, we have a snow shovel that Josh could have walked up to the house and gotten, but he didn't want to leave me with the van sticking out onto the main road, and neither of us was crazy about the thought of me walking up the road. But our snow shovel is a regular, hard-plastic, wide shovel. His was not. His was metal. Smaller. With kind of pointed parts. The kind perfect for scraping away at ice. And the size just right for fitting in an area a regular snow shovel would have a problem with. You know, almost as if God knew something... He and Josh took turns using the shovel - he even got down on the ground to work at it. This complete stranger, whom I'd never seen before (and who actually didn't speak to me except to tell me to push on the gas slowly as they pushed the van). It took about half an hour, but we were unstuck! He told us we should get a hotel, but I couldn't leave my mom alone up there (and, to add to it - our furnace had gone out, but had just been fixed that day). So we tried it again, and got stuck again. The man was gone by now, but we weren't stuck so badly and it just took Josh a few minutes to free us. We parked the van on the main road, and he walked me up to the house. He had been going to stay the night, but we couldn't leave the van on the road all night. So he decided to go home and come back in the morning to take me back to the hospital. He got home, but couldn't get up his road - it was ice. So the poor guy had to go get a hotel after all (something the man kept saying we should do). Neither of us got much sleep that night. LOL But God is so good! So we visited Randy yesterday, but didn't stay long because we didn't want to be home to either of our places after dark. I can't go see Randy today, but I've talked to him on the phone (and Josh is going to see him on his lunch break). Randy had a rough night last night from the pain - even with the meds. So the doctor said they were missing something and sent him to have a CAT scan of his leg. They found a hematoma. Not something to normally worry about, but with someone on anti-coagulants it is a concern. The doc called the hematologist who worked with Randy two years ago and they agreed to take him off one of his blood thinners while he was in hospital (they had him on his regular Warfarin, but put him on Lovenox as well). They are keeping him on the Lovenox for now and so he has to remain in hospital longer so they can monitor the hematoma. Randy said something about the muscle as well, but he had gotten his pain meds by the time I'd talked to him, and coupled with the sleepless night was pretty drowsy. Anyway...would greatly appreciate prayer. Thank you for reading this mini book.
  4. 6 points

    Rough Times

    My son was involved in an accident, on one of our vehicles, and it looks like we will be sued. I can't go into details on here but sure could use some prayer. To compound that, it's lambing time, we have already lost 10 lambs. Then yesterday someone bought one of our pieces of skid steer/tractor equipment and, by the end of the day, severely damaged it, then stopped payment on our check. I sent their photo to the manufacturer and they said it was abused but I have received no word yet when a replacement part will be sent. I'm feeling pretty low.
  5. 6 points

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    I must have a different KJV. I have been reading it for 44 years and have yet to find a goof or booboo.
  6. 6 points

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    I'm just a simple guy, but I think I can see a parallel between what Mr. Roby zeros in on and other so called "pet theories". We have had those that have passed through before trying to set us straight with their pet theory ideas. We see this also outside of our forum. They are always the ones that cannot seem to focus on anything outside of one issue that takes up their whole thought processes. We've seen it here in the form of just one that I will mention out of the many, and that is with the former member SFIC who has been banned , his sole issue in any interaction with others was with the tithe. Out in the real world outside of the Internet these folks can be seen promoting their pet theories such as; women wearing pants; women should wear hats; men wearing beards; universal and local church; the tithe. Anyway you get the idea. Although it may be interesting for some who have never heard these theories and the valid arguments against them to read for the first time, the proponent of these pet theories is almost never convinced of the error of his or her ways and ends up being banned or just moving along to what they consider easier targets. So, having said all of that it leaves my simple mind to wonder if the Bible itself might address situations such as these. Pr 18:2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; If any of what I have written seems uncharitable I would offer this: 2Tim 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
  7. 6 points
    They CANNOT be the same because they were translated from DIFFERENT textual families and through DIFFERENT viewpoints of textual philosophy. Any talk that the "modern translations" are simply an attempt to "modernize" the language of the King James translations is FALSEHOOD. They are not different because they use "modern, updated language." They are different because they were translated from a DIFFERENT SOURCE. So then, IF the SOURCE for the King James translation is truth, then by definition they must be falsehood. On the other hand, IF the SOURCE for the "modern translations" is truth, then by definition the King James translation is falsehood. As for myself, through the Biblical doctrine of preservation and its doctrinal details, I believe that the source for the "modern translations" is FALSEHOOD. Therefore, I will NOT respect them, but will OPPOSE them. I know that some would claim that a King James Only position is a myth because it does not have direct support from the Holy Scriptures. For me my King James positioning, in opposition to the "modern translations," is a doctrinal CONCLUSION that is BUILT UPON my understanding concerning the DOCTRING OF PRESERVATION. So, I would ask - IS THE BIBLICAL DOCTRINE OF PRESERVATION A MYTH?
  8. 6 points
    Matt Souza

    Why Large Families?

    While I understand what you are saying, God is bigger than you, myself and money in this area. If God wants someone to have a large family and the money is not there, God WILL provide. God has been known as the Lord who will provide (Genesis 22:14 & 2 Peter 1:11). Did it make sense for the Israelites to leave Egypt when they did not have enough water or food for the trip for the children? Did it make sense for Abraham to bring Isaac into the mountain for a sacrifice? Please don't limit God's ability. I dont think it's fair to make a blanket statement about what you've seen. I have seen what you have seen, and I also have seen God supply and take care of large families that had no financial way to take care of the kids, and I saw God provide and meet need after need. The quantity of kids is not a situation that is across the board. I must trust God in what He tells me, regardless of my bank account. GOD is bigger than anything.
  9. 6 points

    Steven Anderson

    Can you please show some respect for our beliefs already? You are a guest on this site. You aren’t required to agree with it (Re KJV), but you could be a bit more polite and stop throwing your “KJV myth” comments everywhere you possibly can.
  10. 6 points

    Rock Tumbling

    The church I am working at has a home school ministry and I thought it would be a fun thing for the kids to learn about rock polishing/tumbling, so I brought in my little rock tumbler and a few rough gemstones that came with it and showed them how it works. They were a bit disappointed that it's going to take so long to have a finished shiny stone, but are excited to seeing the finished product. The rock tumbler works by turning a barrel of rocks, sand, and water constantly for up to 3-4 weeks depending on your desired shininess or rock type. The tumbler that I got came with four different grits of sand, the first grit is the roughest type and just gets the rocks smoothed out, the final grit is the finest type and polishes the rocks. The rocks have been tumbling for two weeks now, and are now at grit #3 and will tumble for another week before I change the sand again. The pictures are of the tumbler and some random rocks I found, before tumbling, and after the first week of tumbling. Before: After 1 week:
  11. 5 points
    Matt Souza

    How God Funds His Work…

    I started our church 3 years ago. If we waited to have funds to do things, we would not have accomplished much. As long as we followed God, He has always provided. God has been good.
  12. 5 points


    No. To be clear, this site is about Independent Baptists, not just about "Baptists". Some "Baptists" do consider themselves part of the protestant movement, but in general IB churches are INDEPENDENT from all denominations, and are not a close and solid group, but a bunch of independent churches that have similar doctrines because we try to follow the Bible. As to the actual term "protestant" - that is technically referring to those people who were protesting against the Catholic church, and this happened during what is known as the "reformation" where these people were tyring to "reform" the Catholic church "back to the truth". Problem is that the Catholic church was never a true church following the Bible anyway, so to "reform" them is to take them from an unbiblical position to an older unbiblical position. There has however always been a group of people who have tried to follow the Bible alone, and it is this group that IB tentatively trace our heritage back to - not protestant, not Catholic, but Biblical.
  13. 5 points

    Saved before the Cross?????

    I always find it interesting when people try to suggest that salvation was not possible before the cross, or when they at least say that salvation was different before the cross. I find it interesting because Paul doesn't agree with either of those propositions. How can I state it so categorically? Oh I don't know...…. 2Ti 3:15 (15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. Which Scriptures do you suppose that Timothy knew from his childhood? Act 17:10-11 (10) And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. (11) These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Which Scriptures do suppose the Bereans searched as they checked whether the things that Paul preached were so? Well, When Timothy was a child I doubt that they had much in the way of the New Testament written, and the Bereans were checking before at least the vast majority of the NT was written. Little Timmy knew the Holy Scriptures which are able to make him wise UNTO SALVATION. BEFORE most if not all of the NT was written. That means that Paul said to Timothy that the OT Scriptures could tell someone how to be saved the NT way - through faith in Jesus Christ...……….. And what about those Bereans - they searched the Scriptures to check on what Paul was preaching. They searched the OT Scriptures to check on what Paul was preaching. What was Paul preaching? Act 17:2-3 (2) And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, (3) Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ. Notice that it was his manner to preach this, and what he preached was that Jesus Christ had to suffer and die, and rise again from the dead. The Bereans believed Paul's preaching because hen they checked out the OT to see if Paul was preaching truth, they found it was true - FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT - and they got saved. This means that the OT told people how to be saved through Jesus Christ. Timothy read the Old Testament, believed it, and got saved - apparently when he was a little child. The Bereans read the Old Testament, believed it, and got saved. And in Timothy it says that those Scriptures are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith in Jesus Christ……. pretty plain to me - the OT tells someone how to be saved through Jesus Christ. And the Bereans were able to confirm in the OT, that salvation is through Jesus Christ, because that is what Paul was preaching. I dunno…… I am just a dumb bloke...…. but it seems pretty obvious to me. The OT tells about Jesus Christ, and what He had to do to save men from their sins - people just had to believe it, just as now they just have to believe it.
  14. 5 points

    Sinking In The Mire

    Sinking In The Mire Jeremiah 38:6a Then took they Jeremiah, and cast him into the dungeon of Malchiah the son of Hammelech, that was in the court of the prison: and they let down Jeremiah with cords. The prophet Jeremiah's enemies gathered together against him, seeking to put him to death. As a result, he was cast into the dungeon, where he began to sink in the mire. Jeremiah 38:6b And in the dungeon there was no water, but mire: so Jeremiah sunk in the mire. Adversities and afflictions will often seem to rise against us, much like Jeremiah's enemies rose against him. Left with no firm footing, you may find yourself sinking in the mire of despair, overwhelmed and oppressed. In the midst of discouragement, your eyes fail you of tears, your voice chokes up and your cry to the gates of Heaven seems to come to no avail, and it becomes harder to look up to the Lord in hope. Psalms 69:1-3 Save me, O God; for the waters are come in unto my soul. I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the floods overflow me. I am weary of my crying: my throat is dried: mine eyes fail while I wait for my God. Isaiah 38:14a Like a crane or a swallow, so did I chatter: I did mourn as a dove: mine eyes fail with looking upward: But the Lord has not forsaken you, He has not forgotten you, He has not left you to face these trials alone or in your own strength. He is only waiting for you to cry out to Him in faith. Will you look to Him to deliver you from your trouble? Will you trust Him? The following quote from the book of Lamentations very likely expresses Jeremiah's prayer from this same dungeon, where he was literally sinking in the mire: Lamentations 3:52-56 Mine enemies chased me sore, like a bird, without cause. They have cut off my life in the dungeon, and cast a stone upon me. Waters flowed over mine head; then I said, I am cut off. I called upon thy name, O LORD, out of the low dungeon. Thou hast heard my voice: hide not thine ear at my breathing, at my cry. Isaiah 38:14b O LORD, I am oppressed; undertake for me. Psalms 56:3-4 What time I am afraid, I will trust in thee. In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me. Jeremiah 38:7-10 Now when Ebedmelech the Ethiopian, one of the eunuchs which was in the king's house, heard that they had put Jeremiah in the dungeon; the king then sitting in the gate of Benjamin; Ebedmelech went forth out of the king's house, and spake to the king, saying, My lord the king, these men have done evil in all that they have done to Jeremiah the prophet, whom they have cast into the dungeon; and he is like to die for hunger in the place where he is: for there is no more bread in the city. Then the king commanded Ebedmelech the Ethiopian, saying, Take from hence thirty men with thee, and take up Jeremiah the prophet out of the dungeon, before he die. Just like King Zedekiah sent his servant Ebedmelech to rescue Jeremiah from his affliction, so too will you find that the Lord God will send His servant (whatever He may choose, however He may choose - according to His will) to help you in your distress. (Note: the name Ebedmelech literally means "servant of the King".) When the mire seems the deepest and you are ready to give up, you will find your Heavenly Father is still at work behind the scenes, setting in motion the plan that will release you from your imprisonment. Psalms 91:14-16 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation. Lamentations 3:57-58 Thou drewest near in the day that I called upon thee: thou saidst, Fear not. O Lord, thou hast pleaded the causes of my soul; thou hast redeemed my life. Jeremiah 38:11-13 So Ebedmelech took the men with him, and went into the house of the king under the treasury, and took thence old cast clouts and old rotten rags, and let them down by cords into the dungeon to Jeremiah. And Ebedmelech the Ethiopian said unto Jeremiah, Put now these old cast clouts and rotten rags under thine armholes under the cords. And Jeremiah did so. So they drew up Jeremiah with cords, and took him up out of the dungeon: and Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison. Keep your focus on the Lord Jesus Christ, trust in Him and His Word - and like Jeremiah was drawn out of the mire of his prison, so too will you be drawn up out of the mire and the waters that have flooded your soul. Drawn With Cords Hosea 11:4a I drew them with cords of a man, with bands of love. Drawn From Above Psalms 18:16 He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many waters. Set Upon A Rock Psalms 40:1-3 I waited patiently for the LORD; and he inclined unto me, and heard my cry. He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings. And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD. Whatever the situation your are facing now, when it seems that your soul is sinking deep in the mire, look above - and let Jesus draw you up out of that prison of despair, and set your feet back upon the solid rock! Only in Him will you find the firm footing to face the trials of life. Love Lifted Me (Lyrics: James Rowe) I was sinking deep in sin, far from the peaceful shore, Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more, But the Master of the sea, heard my despairing cry, From the waters lifted me, now safe am I. Chorus: Love lifted me! Love lifted me! When nothing else could help Love lifted me! Souls in danger look above, Jesus completely saves, He will lift you by His love, out of the angry waves. He’s the Master of the sea, billows His will obey, He your Savior wants to be, be saved today. November 19th/05 Jerry Bouey http://www.earnestlycontending.com/ewministries/jerry/sinkinginthemire.html
  15. 5 points

    How do you explain the Holy Light?

    Lucian, I would like to challenge your approach to 'proving' what is heretical vs. authentic. Your post appears to suggest that you are allowing miracles to 'prove' truth. I would challenge you that truth should prove all things by itself. I assume you're Orthodox? I think we can establish a base that we can both agree with - that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of God. God Himself inspired its writing, and the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost (2 Peter 1:21). Can we start with the agreement that the Bible is God's direct Word to mankind? As God is Holy, True and Perfect, so His Word is True. It cannot be anything but True. Therefore, we can judge all things by it. We are, in fact, instructed to prove all things; hold fast that which is true (1 Thess. 5:21). Consider: And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few. (Acts 17:10-12) So we are told to look in the Bible to see if what we are taught by other sources is true. Consider also: For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2 Peter 1:16-21) Here Peter is referring to the Transfiguration described in Matthew 17. This was an amazing, miraculous event where the disciples not only saw Jesus as God in His glory, but also saw the great (dead) prophets speaking to Him! What an amazing sign and event this was - yet Peter tells us in this passage that the written Word of God (the Bible) is a more sure source of information and truth (i.e. prophecy) than that miraculous sign. The principle here is that the Bible is to be our first source of Truth - more so than any sign. We do see in the Bible where at different times, God used signs & wonders - especially in His dealing with the Jews. But that was never His primary form of communication. God sent prophets to tell His people His truth; many of those prophets He used to write down His Word in the Bible. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (Matthew 23:37). Moreover, we are repeatedly warned that there will be false prophets, and false christs, that will use signs and wonders to deceive people: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders... (2 Thess. 2:9) And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many... Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. (Matthew 24:11, 23-25) (Mark 13:21-22) And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast... (Rev. 13:11-14a) This last one specifically refers to fire being used as a false sign! Remember also, that in the time of the Exodus, the priests of the false Egyptian gods were able to recreate some of the miracles of the plagues. Satan is not without power, and uses that power to deceive people lest they believe in the true Gospel of God and be saved. And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the Lord had said. And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt. (Exodus 7:22; 8:17) This, then, is what the Bible says about all signs and wonders; that they must be proven by Scripture, that Scripture is always the final Word, and that they can be the work of false prophets and must not be implicitly trusted. Is this Holy Fire used to demonstrate the veracity of Orthodoxy? Then one must look at the doctrine of Orthodoxy. How does it compare to the Bible? Ephesians 2:5-6 says: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Not of works, lest any man should boast. Is Orthodox doctrine in agreement with this? Does it agree with the teaching of Isaiah 53 and the rest of Scripture which teach that Christ is our substitutionary atonement - that God literally accepted His Death as sacrifice for sin in our stead? If not, you must reject the doctrines of men in favor of the teaching of the Word of God. Trying to worship God using the doctrines of men is vain. Look at Matthew 15:9 (But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men) and Mark 7:7; study Colossians 2 which warns about replacing the simple Gospel of faith in Jesus Christ's finished work alone for a works-based attempt at pleasing God. (which can never succeed: But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah 64:6) You had asked what I thought about the Holy Fire. First, my library training (I'm a Library Tech by education) teaches me not to trust a site that has an inherent interest in the subject. In other words, of course an Orthodox site will cite proof for this phenomenon. Any claim of scientific proof needs to be backed up by an impartial witness. Secondly, a quick Wikipedia search shows that this phenomenon has apparently been debunked by multiple individuals over the past millennium. Thirdly, (and actually the most important), since the Bible warns me of false teachers using miracles, and since I know Orthodox doctrine is not in line with the Bible, I honestly don't care whether it's an authentic miracle or a hoax. It could be a miracle of Satan, or it could be a hoax of the priests. Doesn't matter. I will trust the Bible, God's Word, as True and Truth and follow its teachings rather than that of the Orthodox church. Food for thought. I was not 'raised Baptist', rather as a born-again believer I choose to attend the Baptist church that I do because I believe its teachings align most closely with the Bible.
  16. 5 points
    John Young

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    A selection of all the "Goofs and booboos" of the modernist movement in the ongoing process of trying to find and fix the Goofs and booboos.... I'm sure the'll get them all eventually...
  17. 5 points
    Matt Souza

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    I never put much weight into those who is against the KJV only when their only explanation is experience, common sense, & audience request. I'll put my faith and trust in God and His Word, not what man says. As to the original topic: While I believe the KJV is perfectly preserved for English speaking people, I do not have a problem with Archaic words being updated. Modern version failed because they have changed meaning of verses by re translating the verse.
  18. 5 points

    Cards For Randy DePriest

    LuAnne, (HappyChristian) gave me permission to post an address to send Randy get well wishes and to let him know people everywhere are praying for his speedy recovery. Please send the cards to his church, some of you may already have this address but here it is again: Pastor Randy DePriest c/o Lighthouse Baptist Church 108 Airport Road Port Townsend, WA 98368 I'm sure it will encourage Randy and the Church at Port Townsend.
  19. 5 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    Actually, I find that much of a modern English use is dumbed down and oversimplified. We don’t use nearly the breadth of language available to us in classic English. I have no desire to use a Bible whose language has similarly been simplified to the point it can no longer be accurate. The scholarly knowledge present in the KJV is also something that can hardly be replicated today. I wouldn’t trust modern “translators” to have the same language knowledge. Ever studied just how educated they were, and how many steps were taken to remove bias or inaccuracy from the text? The specificity provided by the singular/plural meanings of thou/you are not always discernible from the context. And where they are, it really is a lot easier to understand the difference from the word itself, rather than studying it out through the context. Why wouldn’t you want to use what’s available?
  20. 5 points
    Maybe you have the daunting task of putting together your church bulletin, or just maybe you have read the church bulletin on a Sunday Morning and got a little chuckle on how a sentence was worded or the wrong placement of a comma. Here is a list of some of my favorite things that have somehow made its way into our church bulletin. Reminds us that we all need proofreaders at times. Enjoy. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery down stairs. The eighth graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in the church basement on Friday at 7 pm. The congregation is invited to attend the tragedy. This being Easter Sunday, we will ask Mrs. Lewis to come forward and lay an egg on the altar. Thursday night: Potluck Supper - Prayer and medication will follow. Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles, and other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children. Weight Watchers meeting has been moved to 6pm. Please use the double doors when entering. Evening massage - 7 p.m. Next Sunday we have a soloist for the morning service. The pastor will then preach on "It's a Terrible Experience." Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community. Don't let worry kill you off - let the church help. A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall. Music will follow. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be "What is hell?" Come early and listen to our choir practice. The choir invites any member of the congregation who enjoys sinning to join the choir. You have a funny blooper from your church bulletin? Please comment it below.
  21. 5 points

    Hubs in the hospital...

    Yesterday Randy's INR made it to 1.9. This morning he called me at 8:30 to inform me that it had jumped to 2.4! The doctor was happy - and told him he was going to send him home today! He told him it wouldn't be til this evening because they had to shut off the heparin and they need to monitor things for a bit with that. The Lord's timing is interesting - this is the first Sunday of the month, so we have afternoon service following lunch, and no evening service (usually we go to the nursing home, but because Randy was in the hospital we had to cancel this month). So I talked to Randy about 3 pm. He told me the doctor said he could come home at 5. Yeehaw! Josh drove me to the hospital, and we got there at 4:55. I helped Randy get dressed and away we went! The hematoma is still there, and still causing him pain. But he is able to bend his leg a bit - and the horrible bruising has really been clearing up (his entire thigh was badly bruised). After 18 days away, Randy is home! The doctor is pretty optimistic that the warfarin is dissolving the DVT. He'll likely have an ultra sound some time soon just to be sure (at least I hope so!). He has to see his primary doctor as soon as possible, so we'll be calling for an appt tomorrow. They were testing his INR every day, but now it'll stretch a bit further. He goes in Tuesday for it and then again Friday. He was able to take a shower for the first time since the morning of Feb. 14. Boy, was he happy! And he didn't miss out on the cowboy baked beans I made for church today. I so appreciate your prayer. I would appreciate continued prayer that the DVT would dissolve and that the hematoma would continue to shrink as the muscle continues to heal. It's been so great to glance over at his chair and see him in it.
  22. 5 points

    Old and unmarried

    I'm a woman, but figure I'll throw my two cents in. You're younger than I am, and I've been single, never dated, my whole life. My situation is different than yours, I lived in a highly Christian/Baptist saturated area, went to a Baptist Bible college and never met "the one". Now I'm dedicated to be a missionary to a country where it's very rare to bump into single Christian, Baptist, missionary men. I decided a long time ago that I would only be interested in a man who is also dedicated to being a missionary to the same country God called me to, knowing I'd probably never marry because of this. God has given me peace concerning this situation. Are there times where I feel lonely or sad that I may never marry? Yes, those feelings are only natural. But, again, God gives me peace of heart and I feel satisfied that God's will for my life, whether I marry or not, is the best way to live my life. For your situation, would you really rather marry someone who will probably physically abuse you and cheat on you with another woman? Is that security? Is that love? Will your life have any peace? Is it so bad to be a single woman that you would rather be abused? I just don't understand. Is there any way you could move to a less depraved city or country? Is something preventing you from moving? How did you become a Christian? Are there no other Christians or churches in the area who can help you? I beg you to turn to Christ for peace and security and not a man with empty promises. Please trust Christ. To answer your question: It is unacceptable for a believer to marry an unbeliever, even though it sadly happens all the time. II Corinthians 6:14-18 "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
  23. 5 points

    What do you love about your church?

    I love the fellowship. I love the close relationship. I love the sincerity in worship. I enjoy going to church.
  24. 5 points

    Pre-Trib or Post-Trib?

    Tej, Good question. In my studies of the prophecies of the Old Testament and the New Testament, long ago, I came to the conclusion that the coming of the Lord Jesus for the saints in the church will occur before the 7-Year Tribulation starts in Revelation 6:1 Since this last December, at our church I have been teaching a verse-by-verse study of 1 & 2 Thessalonians. Below is a chart that I made for that study. The chart is a "work in progress." And, I have already told the congregation that there will be an individual chart made for the five subjects covered in the chart. So, I am sure that there will be some changes (hopefully not major), in the weeks ahead. I do hope that the above chart on 1 & 2 Thessalonians will help answer your question. If there is something not understood on the chart, or if anyone has a question, or you see a mistake, please ask or discuss. Alan Note on February 11, 2019. I have done a detailed study on, "The Day of the Lord," and the book of Isaiah, and the fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecies in the book of Revelation, for my current study at our church. Due to the complexity of the, "Day of Christ," and "The Day of the Lord," I am in the process of revising the chart on 1 Thessalonians 5:2, "Day of the Lord," & 2 Thessalonians 2:2, "The Day of Christ" to make it more clearer and more precise. Once I am finished with the chart(s) I will attach the revised chart on this study and more appropriate passages from Isaiah. Alan
  25. 5 points

    Looking to convert.

    Not many IFB churches officially identify as such - most just call themselves independent Baptist. It is the clear reliance on the Bible, and the intent to follow the Bible in all things that separates a poor church from a fundamental Baptist church.
  26. 5 points

    Fort Worth Star-Telegram Series

    Ok this has gone on long enough. We have rules for posting on these forums, rules that the new people in this thread have obviously not read. Here is the one pertinent to this thread: We will not allow the following c) Members that come just to argue doctrine instead of fellowship. I am locking this thread for the above stated reason. Any further attempt by anyone to start a new thread on the same subject will be cause to ban that person.
  27. 5 points

    Rock Tumbling

    Wow! Beautiful rocks. Thank you for the article on Rock Tumbling. Looking forward to the end result. The rocks in their natural state (full of dirt, scratches, grime, dross and imperfections), were not as beautiful, or useful for public display, or for sale, as much as after they were polished, as before. Right off the top of my head I can think of some illustrations concerning a new life in Christ, and the beauty of salvation, once the Lord polishes us up and takes away the "rough" edges off of us. "Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer." Proverbs 25:4 "If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work." 2 Timothy 2:21
  28. 4 points

    It’s Only After

    It's Only After Roses are so beautiful that we forget that thorns cause pain, We often forget that rainbows only come after the rain. Sometimes the sun is hidden when storm clouds are in view, It’s only after the rose is picked that it will bring great joy to you. It’s only after the storm subsides that peace comes to calm the seas, It’s only when the light turns on that the shadow suddenly flees. Sometimes we only learn, to appreciate the light, After walking through the darkness, in what seems like blackest night. It’s often only when you miss someone that their worth is realized, For iron sharpening iron, is a blessing in disguise. You may lose your dearest friend, yet there will always be another, Still, Jesus is the best of friends that sticks closer than a brother. It’s only when you see you’re lost, that you truly can be found, It’s when you admit your poverty that Christ’s riches can abound. It’s only in losing yourself that you find life’s joy at last, And sometime in the future, the Lord will heal the past. It’s only after you pray in faith, that the peace of God transcends, And only after your faith is proved, does the trial come to an end. It’s only in surrender to the Lord that brings end to inward strife, It’s only after dying that we rise to endless life. It’s only after travailing that comes the joy of a child’s birth, Only after the tribulation comes the new heaven and new earth. Only after a seemingly endless night, comes the dawning of the day, It’s only in eternity that the former things are passed away. It’s only after the sorrow ceases that comes the soothing of the pain, And just before the darkness passes that the Morning Star shines again. After the tests and trials are done, the Father wipes all our tears away, And we’ll live with Christ, our Saviour, in eternity’s endless day. August 29th, 2000 Jerry Bouey and Angela Trenholm And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose. Romans 8:28
  29. 4 points
    ...and it astounds me how anyone can believe that different "bible" versions, which say different things, and teach different doctrines could believe that such differences are okay.
  30. 4 points
    The technological revolution we’ve seen in our Baptist churches over the past 20 or so years is astounding. What’s even more remarkable is the speed at which technology in the church continues to improve and change the way some worship. A few years back having one projector screen was a revolutionary way to change worship. Now many worship services include multiple screens, concert-style stage lighting, websites, apps, live streaming, Computerized Child Check-In, Video Announcements, video-based curriculum, podcasts, and more. Of course, many churches do not use some (or any) of these technologies in their worship service. And, honestly, neither your church nor mine really need any of them to function as a church. There are countless churches all over the world with little to no technology that are fulfilling the great commission in ways that would put to shame some of the most technologically-driven Baptist churches. The shift that has taken place with technology is that it has been placed ahead of everything else. Technology should enhance worship, not replace it. Gone seems the days when Bibles are carried into church, the Bible is being replaced by phones and computers. However, technology can be useful and serve a function in our churches. Here are a few ways that technology can be used in our Baptist churches without compromising to the world. Of course, the use of technology and which ones we use, is dependent on the area that we are located in. Church Website: Long are the days when people look at the Yellow Pages for church. Before anyone steps into a church, there is a high probability that they looked you up online. Projectors & TV's: Video announcements, Bible Verses, Hymnal lyrics are a few ways where projectors/tv's can be used. Live Streaming: It's often been said that if you live stream people will stay home instead of coming to church. I've found the opposite to happen. Folks in the community seems to watch a service online before attending. With wachy churches out there it is a way of folks to screen the church. Social Media: The use of facebook and/or Instagram is a great way to get your community engaged. Proper use of Hashtags can help get folks in your community to learn about your church that never would have drove by or looked you up online. Getting your church on Google maps is another way where your church will show up on their phones as they use their gps to head to a location. The important thing is that the use of technology does not take priority over worship. The Word of God is the main focus. It seems that technology may be hindering spiritual growth in our Baptist churches. Whenever there is change there always is opposition. I've often wondered how much opposition was there when the piano was first brought into the church, or electricity. Probably the only modern thing that did not receive opposition was indoor plumbing. Please comment below what ways your church uses technology without compromise worship.
  31. 4 points

    Reply to Lust

    James, I think there are some wise mentors among the men here who may be able to help you with your struggle. However, a mixed forum is really not the best place to discuss this. May I suggest that you join the forum (as a member, not just a guest)? You can then continue this discussion in the men’s area.
  32. 4 points
    Matt Souza

    God will bless Assyria...

    I can't speak for anyone else, but I definitely don't speak that style of English or any style of English of any translation. Also, if I picked the Bible based upon my area's style, I would be using the ebonics Bible and it would have no grammatical structure, spelling errors, abbreviations, and not use complete sentences.
  33. 4 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    Okay, I think we need a break from this subject for a bit. Robycop, you were told that it is rude to come in and attack others’ beliefs on their own forum. I personally gave you some leniency because I believe there is room for discussion on what it means to be KJVonly. Some think the KJV supersedes the original manuscripts, yet the manuscripts are how God has preserved His Word through history. You have, however, repeatedly shown that the only authority you will accept in this area is yourself, no matter how contradictory your position may be. I am hereby, in my capacity as moderator, issuing a cease and desist order. This topic is on hold for you; do not attempt to discuss it further.
  34. 4 points

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    Ditto Jim. On my part, it has only been 21-22 years of being Kjvonly (though leaning that way for several years before I actually started doing personal research on the matter). I especially focussed on Bible difficulties - and have never found an “error” that couldn’t be reconciled in some way - whether by studying out the exact English words of the passage or by comparing related passages. And inthe same manner, have proven over and over that other versions do have errors - whether by omissions creating a contradiction or difficulty or by reading the exact wording of that verse or passage in that modern version to see there is a conflict (and not finding the same error or conflict in the Kjv). For the record Robycop, it is one thing to prove there is an error and another thing to just say there is. Just because you disagree with how someone reconciles or explains a Bible difficulty does not prove there is actually one. You’ve already explained your issue with the word Easter in Acts 12, now list or show us the myriad other actual errors you have personally found - if in fact you have found some. I can guarantee that the believers in the authenticity of the Kjv here can defend the Kjv from all those supposed errors, and show from each passage or related passages that our King James Bible is not in error. Can you do that with your favourite modern Bible version(s)? If not, you are just creating more smokescreens and being a stumbling block to the faith of any believer following your philosophy. For someone who claims to love the Lord and His Word, that should be something that you would strive against. P.S. Hi Happy Christian. Good to “see” you again.
  35. 4 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    You are right - there is not a person alive today who could rival the linguistic skills of many on the KJV translation panel. There is indeed a VAST difference.....
  36. 4 points

    Steven Anderson

    This website is a clearly stated KJV forum. Isn't it a somewhat disrespectful act to come to a clearly stated KJV website and attack the KJV?
  37. 4 points

    Hubs in the hospital...

    Last night after I visited Randy, they put him back on blood thinner - Heparin, via IV. They had measured his leg and it was apparently smaller. That, coupled with the doctor finding that his leg had more give to it must indicate that the bleeding stopped. He told me this morning that the doctor told him yesterday that MAYBE he will be able to come home Saturday. They are thinking about putting him back on the warfarin. They'll keep him on the heparin as long as he's in the hospital, though , as a bridge to going completely to the warfarin. I don't know what we'll do about the DVT - if the thinners are dissolving it, there won't be need for surgery. Nothing definite about him coming home Saturday, and I am not getting my hopes up (well, trying not to, LOL). But this is definitely a good step. Yesterday his CK level was down a bit more, but they are still 16x too high. Specific prayer regarding that would be appreciated.
  38. 4 points

    10 - 2 - 7

    Ten years, two months, and seven days ago I joined Online Baptist (OB). Many were here before me, many have left the site, and many have since joined. OB has always been a great place to fellowship with other like minded believers and continues to be so today. This is a refreshing place to come and just read the remarks of others or comment as the Lord leads. All in all each of you have helped me to grow in my walk with the Lord. I look forward to continuing visits here until the Lord says otherwise. Thanks Matt for a great environment for IFB and IB alike.
  39. 4 points
    As the pastor of the church I really appreciate a few things. 1) The love that the church has for my wife and family. We started the church 3 years ago and do not collect a salary yet, but the church has been very kind and gracious to us. 2) The love that the church has for God. Our folks are hurting, struggling and broken, but they keep on keeping on in serving the Lord. I have been blessed.
  40. 4 points
    When I'm looking for a vacation church, I'll creep the Internet until I can find something - the website, a Yahoo review, Facebook, the pastor's blog.. anything with reviews or pictures. The statement of faith or other written information can hint at Calvinism (blogs are great for this) - once I figured out a reformed connection by the paragraph that stated they had some Reformed books in their church bookstore (actually went to that one anyways - it was in Wales, where all the conservative churches seem to have some reformed in them, and it was the best gospel preaching option in the area). Ministry listings or Facebook events can hint at the kind of music accepted, Facebook photos show standards as well. Guest speakers listed can be googled to see their doctrinal stance. Missionaries supported - do I recognize any? Do we have any in common? External ministries mentioned, or the pastor's alma mater can hint at doctrinal leanings as well. And yes, doctrinal statements can be ridiculously hard to find! Walking into a church, it's the music setup, like DaveW said - what instruments are on the stage - is there a big fancy screen display setup as the main focal point instead of hymnals - do they have theater seating? For me, the dress of the ushers or those who appear to be leaders is also something to look for. Usually by the time I walk in though, I know what to expect. I once attended an Evangelical church on vacation (in the mountains - nearest Conservative church was 2.5 hours away), so I knew going in what it would be like.
  41. 4 points
    Indeed, Matt, you reveal the answer in your response: 1. You feel that you NEED God and His Word, because the Lord and His Word are a priority in your living. Thus you also feel that you NEED a Biblically faithful church, its Biblically faithful edification, and its Biblically centered fellowship. 2. Others, however, hold the world and the things of the world as a priority. Thus they allow the world to entangle them and choke out their relationship with the Lord and His Word. They are thorny ground believers. As long as they remain entangled with the priority of this world, they cannot and will not bring forth spiritual fruit unto perfection. As long as they love this world and the things of this world, a true love of priority for the Lord is not in them. As long as they walk in such a loving friendship with this world through the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, they ARE walking at enmity with the Lord their God. There is NO middle ground with this matter. Remember, it is spiritually impossible to serve two opposing masters. Spiritually it is impossible to serve both the priority of our Lord and the priority of the world in our lives at the same time. We love the one (whichever one it is), and HATE the other. We hold to the one (whichever one it is), and DESPISE the other. No light matter spiritually according to the word usage of our Lord. (Sorry if I came on a little strong there. Having completed a book entitled, "In the World, Not of the World: The Believer's Relationship to the World," this subject is much on my mind at the moment.)
  42. 4 points


    Although this has the capacity to hurt you and your ministry, I would advise that you not beat yourself up too much about this. I say this because, although you are responsible in the end, this is not your doing. In my experience there may be two things you could do. One is to go directly to the lending company and explain the situation. Offer to fully catch up on the payments and to pay in a timely manner from now on. Normally lenders will react favorably to this and work with you. They don't want the car they want the money and need assurances. The second thing you could do is to pay of the balance including back payments and late charges, even if you have to borrow from somewhere else to do it. making this right and favorably resolving this matter will go a long way toward your state of mind as well as your qualifications. I am not sure what a bi-vocational pastor is, but if you have a senior pastor over you be sure to discuss this with him, especially as you work toward a remedy.
  43. 4 points
    I'm a missionary sent out of my local church. My home church receives and handles all my support and transfer funds to me as needed (bi-monthly set amount or as I request additional funds). My church set up a bank account with my name on it, but the finance team has access to it so they can transfer the funds as needed. Other than that they don't touch the money in that account. The church handles my income tax forms and helped with the legal paperwork that I needed to get my missionary visa, and as it was a learning experience for both the church and myself, there were some hiccups along the way as we learned what each of our legal responsibilities were. Whether a missionary chooses to go through a board, clearinghouse, or local church, they should put a lot of prayer into that decision and allow God to direct their steps.
  44. 4 points
    By the way, Job also had an eternal security in his own future resurrection to stand with God through the power of his Living Redeemer. (See Job 19:25-27)
  45. 4 points

    My father is dying.

    My father, who is 80 years old is dying. He has stage 4 colon cancer that has metastasized as well to his liver causing as the doctor stated "more tumors than can be counted" on his liver. Last night he went into emergency surgery because his colon ruptured. Needless to say none of this is operable or curable and prognosis is less than 2 months tops if he survives what happened last night. Now for the good news. My dad has a very solid testimony of salvation and obvious influences of the Holy Spirit in his life. However, my brother Jeff is lost, knows it, and doesn't care. My sister I am not sure about. She says she is saved but her beliefs are modern neo-evangelical "works salvation" since she believes every time you drop a stitch you need to be re-saved. Has never read the bible and has no desire to (which I don't understand if you are truly saved). My prayer is more for my brother and sister than my dad who is at peace with finally going home. Prayer for him would simply be that he passes as comfortably as possible. Bro. Garry In His will. By His power. For His glory.
  46. 4 points
    John Young

    Jews Versus Gentiles

    First a Christian should not care about skin pigmentation, Secondly the false "Pigmentation" doctrine of Ham (some use Cain's mark) was developed by people influenced by evolutionary thinking, who desired show why the "negro race" was inferior and deserved to be subjugated. (This thinking believed in four to seven human races that did not have common ancestors and developed separately over time and their white race being the most human with the pure white Aryan Race least tainted by the others and therefor better more evolved.). Third it is predicating the myth that it is a curse to be negro, which it is not. Personally I don't think we need to entertain the curse of pigmentation or race "question" as if it had any actual merit in scripture other than to say that proponents of it certainly did not get it from the bible. As for the science to why people are darker than others, that is generally explained by a working of particular genes in the body over generations and what genes were available in the pool of people who would marry with one another. If you and your group have the genes that give you darker skin and there is no one around who has genes that regulate to a lighter tone, you simply will not get lighter. This can be easily seen by the children of black and white people who marry is their children will often be a middle tone with some lighter and darker. The Australians also had a program in the older days where they were breading the "black out" of the local aborigines, attempting to turn them in to white people, by paring up lighter Aborigines with the darker ones. The Body also has a particular way of adapting to its environment and while "black" is often associated with the "negro race" or Africans many Asians Indians, Polynesians, Chinese , american Indian ect, have just as dark skin but are not associated with the "negro" genetically nor in biblical decent.
  47. 4 points
    And you both are ignoring the fact that no single person CAN answer your questions BECAUSE independent Baptist churches ARE INDEPENDENT. I absolutely directly answered the initial post when I said that the proper authorities should be involved - although I didn't state it, that is the policy in the church where I am. But because an independent Baptist church is independent I can not speak for any church but the one I am a member of. I can tell you that was the same for each of the three churches that I have been a member of. I have a question for the two of you. Why are you both singling out independent Baptist churches? There are many independent churches around - why exclude them? There are many church groups around - why exclude them? This singling out of only independent Baptist churches is what makes this seem fishy. We KNOW that this kind of thing is not exclusive to independent Baptist churches, so why focus on them? The Catholic church appears to have a systematic and organized way to hide and ignore the problem and not to even deal with it internally. The Anglican church has likewise had its issues with the problem. The Mormons have also has instances. The JW's have had instances. Schools have had many instances. The boy scouts have instances. And yet you both are focusing on independent Baptist churches only, even to the extent of attacking the other person who pointed out that others have the issue and to a far greater extent. My answer was absolutely, 100% applicable to the original question, you just don't want to accept it because it does not allow you to continue with your story.
  48. 4 points

    Absence of Doctrinal Authority

    If you have trusted Christ as your Saviour, then baptism is a good and proper thing to do, and a good thing to be desired. But you need to be certain that you are not desiring it because you think, in any way, that it will help assure your salvation. Baptism is a work - a thing we can do in obedience to God - thus to reliance on it in the least little bit for grace for salvation means that a person is not relying wholly and completely on Christ for salvation. And if we are depending on anything other than Christ alone as the propitiation for our sin (there's a good word to study!), then we are not truly saved.
  49. 4 points
    The thing with any pastor and church is that you will have to try their spirit. Occasionally a pastor will have to call out a false teacher but their main ministry should be feeding the flock of God that they have been called to. If they are only putting down others and lifting up them selves while teaching very little actual bible doctrine, Then they should be avoided. If they have the Spirit of God in them then you will be encouraged and refreshed and motivated by the preaching and teaching, even when they occasionally have the sad and solom duty of calling out a false teaching or errant brothers. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Acts 20:27-29 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Philippians 4:7-9 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. 8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things arejust, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. 9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you. 2 Corinthians 10:12-13 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. 13 But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you. Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
  50. 4 points

    The beauty of creation

    I have some great kids. They sent my wife and I for a short break 'down south' to a town on the south coast called Denmark. The view is to the Southern Ocean.
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