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  1. 10 points
    Dear brothers and sisters in Christ: I apologize for my lengthy absence from Online Baptist. The past year has been quite difficult and I'd not had the energy to spend the time here I'd hoped. As the Lord permitted, I was given strength to write articles for a Christian publication ("Rapture Ready") for over the last 2-3 years, and spent what energy I had on that. I also have been away so long I had no idea where to post this, nor under what topic. So please forgive me if I erred. My photo from before has disappeared as well, and I likely didn't upload a replacement properly either. The news I have to share today is that the time has come not to say "good-bye", but to say: "We'll meet in heaven." I have stage four cancer. I'm not going to pursue chemo nor radiation (etc.), but have instead signed on for Hospice. The cancer has spread to lymph nodes and bone (likely other places as well). At least one tumor has also spread to to local areas (invasively) and is inoperable. It would only prolong the suffering to try any attempts at chemo (etc.) at this point. It's urethral cancer, which is not only rare, but also extremely aggressive. So there isn't much time left. No doctor can give an exact time-line. But the oncologist said 5 months would be the absolute maximum. Honestly? I can't see it being more than a month, maybe two at most (just my opinion - going on how miserable I am and how quickly it's spreading and tumors are enlarging and manifesting here and there). But the Lord alone knows. His will be done. I do so appreciate prayer. However, I humbly request that none would pray for healing; but instead pray "God's will be done". And if you would, please pray for pain relief and continual relief of pain. I also request that you'd pray for the Lord's comfort for my family and dearest friends during this time. Very much appreciated. Although I'm saddened that this is hard for my parents, children, grandchildren, and dear friends; I think most of them understand that I'm not (personally) sad about the prognosis. As most know, I've had primary progressive MS, spinal cord disease (syringomyelia) and myriad other health issues for over a decade. Life has been an "existence" for many years. One I appreciated still, but was often very painful and difficult. I've been house-bound and bed-bound for several years now. I am looking forward to a release from the pain and suffering in this life, and anticipating the fulfillment of promises God has made in His word for eternity to come for those who've trusted and believed on Jesus for salvation. Please don't pity me in the least. "...I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." (2 Tim.1:12). God has given me the "peace that passeth understanding" (Phil.4:7) and keeps my heart and mind through Christ Jesus. I also have the firm comfort and assurance of the pre-trib rapture, wherein all church/grace-age believers will meet the Lord in the air. The "dead in Christ shall rise first", then those who are "alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." The Lord will soon give church/grace-age believers incorruptible bodies just like Jesus own glorified body (1 John 3:2; Phil.3:20-21; 1 Cor.15:49-53; 1 Thes.4:13-18; et al) at the rapture. While some brethren here may disagree with this doctrine, I am fully convinced of the scriptural surety that the rapture is indeed pre-tribulational. And that Jesus has promised to deliver us from the wrath to come (1 Thes.1:10, 5:1-9; Rom.5:9). So also do I know that scripture proves the rapture to be imminent (nothing need proceed the timing). However, I also believe the rapture is now much more than imminent, but also must soon occur, as much of end time Bible prophecy is aligned in stunning accuracy. I would never dare set date. Yet we are given to know and discern the season which we are now in. Brethren and sisters, I do believe that the rapture is so near that should I physically die first, I do believe all in Christ will soon be raptured and we will all meet together in the air. I very much appreciate the fellowship and past discussion here on OB. So many dear brethren and sisters have touched my life, edified me, and I count you all a blessing. Continue on serving the Lord, knowing that our labor is not in vain in the Lord, and that His word does not return void. Much love, See you soon. Maranatha!!!
  2. 8 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    This argument is a "Straw Man" and meant to deflect answering a genuine opinion from someone else that views the subject differently. I've studied the qualifications and credits of the original translators and I will take their translation abilities over yours in a heartbeat. Oh, and I'll also take their ability in the form of the KJV. Please keep in mind, although I am certain you have; that this message forum is exclusively KJV and will remain so long after you have gone, as will my opinion. If you came here with the intention of changing it, or to cause trouble over our use of the KJV, you may as well give it up, you will not succeed.
  3. 7 points

    Meeting Friends IRL

    We were blessed today with meeting 2bLikeJesus and his wife today. They visited our services and then we went out for lunch. Sweet fellowship, good food, and godly friends. Always a good mixture. From left to right is my mom, Josh, Randy, me, Laurel, and Garry.
  4. 7 points
    OLD fashioned preacher

    What an Opportunity

    My wife was just showing me a photo and text from a missionary couple we've known for around 30 years. They had the opportunity to meet, talk with, witness to, and leave a tract with the King and Queen of Nigeria.
  5. 6 points

    Hubs in the hospital...

    I would appreciate prayer for my husband, Randy. I will try to sum up what seems to me a long story...but this is going to be long. I'm sorry about that! Thursday morning while Randy was at a client's home, he went out to shovel. In these parts, black ice is a real and present danger during the winter. Well, he fell on black ice. His right leg went under him, and his left leg hyper-extended. He managed to get up (he was right by the van's bumper) but fell again right away. He rolled to the pavement, where there was no ice. Got up and began going back to the house, and fell in the snow. Three falls within a matter of minutes. Someone with Factor V Leiden's isn't supposed to be doing those shenanigans. So he came home. How he got into the van, drove, and got up the steps into the house is beyond me - other than God helped him greatly. Because he could hardly walk at all. He got into a chair and I got the heating pad, etc. He thought it was a badly pulled muscle. By now it was almost 11 am. I knew he was in agony, because he would never, ever leave work for just a little bit of pain. He has a very high pain tolerance (many times I will notice him favoring something and will ask how he's doing - he always answers that he's fine...). So about 12:30 he said he thought I might need to call the ambulance. He didn't think he would be able to get down the stairs, down the icy hill, into the van with only my help (to take him to the emergency room). I let our son know, and he said he was getting off work to come help. By 1, Randy was certain he needed an ambulance. So I called them. They got there pretty quickly, thankfully. They were great. They couldn't bring in the stretcher because our ramp was too slick, so they used a blanket to carry him outside. As they rolled him, he hollered out in pain. We have been married almost 33 years, and he has gone through a lot of physically painful things. But I have NEVER heard him holler like that. Never. That was about my undoing. Our son had gotten here by then, but was waiting on the road by our driveway (due to the snow, there was nowhere for him to park if he came up the driveway, and he would have been in the way of the ambulance). He came into the house and headed straight for me to wrap me in a tight hug. That was absolutely what I needed at that moment. I was never more thankful that God moved him up here. So Josh drove me to the hospital. We were in the emergency room for hours as they tested him. (it seemed like years...especially when we saw the date the nurse had written on the white board: Feb 14, 2014. LOL) They found a DVT that was already on its way down his leg - it stretched from his groin to his knee (two years ago it went from his groin to his foot). Doctors have concluded that it is a result of his accident - physical trauma to someone with Factor V can quickly cause clots...and I guess he has to do even that all the way, with major clots LOL). They tried to have him stand. He almost passed out, so the doc laid him back down quickly. And he just laid there with a blank stare for about a minute. Scared me so very badly. So they brought in some pain meds and muscle relaxers, thinking that it might be a pulled muscle. An hour later, they wanted to try and have him stand again (they wanted to send him home, but they couldn't until they knew he could walk). He couldn't even sit with his legs over the bed (he was holding his left leg up so it wouldn't touch the bed and was still in so much pain). So they decided to admit him. He got to his room about 11:30 pm (and we time traveled from 2-14-2014 to 2-15-2019 LOL). We left the hospital about 12:30 and got back to our road a little after 1. Well, as I said, our private road doesn't get plowed. And nobody that lives on the road believes in shoveling, I guess. (Randy would have done some once we were plowed out had he had a chance). So great big piles of slushy frozen snow met us. With one set of tracks. Josh headed up the hill, got about halfway and started spinning. So he backed up - the snow pulled him over one of the frozen piles and we got stuck. Josh got out to check and we were good and stuck. He started doing what he could. As I sat there, I was a bit overwhelmed. So I began to pray. While I was praying, I reminded the Lord about how quickly He helped Peter when Peter cried "Lord, save me!". I told the Lord we needed immediate help. I kid yo not...within minutes (could have been seconds) I saw car lights coming down the road. Now, understand this is 1:30 in the morning, in a super-rural area. Folks are just not out and about during that time. ESPECIALLY in this weather (which is so unusual for this area). The man pulled up immediately and got out of his car. He looked things over, and then said he had a shovel. Now, we have a snow shovel that Josh could have walked up to the house and gotten, but he didn't want to leave me with the van sticking out onto the main road, and neither of us was crazy about the thought of me walking up the road. But our snow shovel is a regular, hard-plastic, wide shovel. His was not. His was metal. Smaller. With kind of pointed parts. The kind perfect for scraping away at ice. And the size just right for fitting in an area a regular snow shovel would have a problem with. You know, almost as if God knew something... He and Josh took turns using the shovel - he even got down on the ground to work at it. This complete stranger, whom I'd never seen before (and who actually didn't speak to me except to tell me to push on the gas slowly as they pushed the van). It took about half an hour, but we were unstuck! He told us we should get a hotel, but I couldn't leave my mom alone up there (and, to add to it - our furnace had gone out, but had just been fixed that day). So we tried it again, and got stuck again. The man was gone by now, but we weren't stuck so badly and it just took Josh a few minutes to free us. We parked the van on the main road, and he walked me up to the house. He had been going to stay the night, but we couldn't leave the van on the road all night. So he decided to go home and come back in the morning to take me back to the hospital. He got home, but couldn't get up his road - it was ice. So the poor guy had to go get a hotel after all (something the man kept saying we should do). Neither of us got much sleep that night. LOL But God is so good! So we visited Randy yesterday, but didn't stay long because we didn't want to be home to either of our places after dark. I can't go see Randy today, but I've talked to him on the phone (and Josh is going to see him on his lunch break). Randy had a rough night last night from the pain - even with the meds. So the doctor said they were missing something and sent him to have a CAT scan of his leg. They found a hematoma. Not something to normally worry about, but with someone on anti-coagulants it is a concern. The doc called the hematologist who worked with Randy two years ago and they agreed to take him off one of his blood thinners while he was in hospital (they had him on his regular Warfarin, but put him on Lovenox as well). They are keeping him on the Lovenox for now and so he has to remain in hospital longer so they can monitor the hematoma. Randy said something about the muscle as well, but he had gotten his pain meds by the time I'd talked to him, and coupled with the sleepless night was pretty drowsy. Anyway...would greatly appreciate prayer. Thank you for reading this mini book.
  6. 6 points

    Rough Times

    My son was involved in an accident, on one of our vehicles, and it looks like we will be sued. I can't go into details on here but sure could use some prayer. To compound that, it's lambing time, we have already lost 10 lambs. Then yesterday someone bought one of our pieces of skid steer/tractor equipment and, by the end of the day, severely damaged it, then stopped payment on our check. I sent their photo to the manufacturer and they said it was abused but I have received no word yet when a replacement part will be sent. I'm feeling pretty low.
  7. 6 points

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    I must have a different KJV. I have been reading it for 44 years and have yet to find a goof or booboo.
  8. 6 points

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    I'm just a simple guy, but I think I can see a parallel between what Mr. Roby zeros in on and other so called "pet theories". We have had those that have passed through before trying to set us straight with their pet theory ideas. We see this also outside of our forum. They are always the ones that cannot seem to focus on anything outside of one issue that takes up their whole thought processes. We've seen it here in the form of just one that I will mention out of the many, and that is with the former member SFIC who has been banned , his sole issue in any interaction with others was with the tithe. Out in the real world outside of the Internet these folks can be seen promoting their pet theories such as; women wearing pants; women should wear hats; men wearing beards; universal and local church; the tithe. Anyway you get the idea. Although it may be interesting for some who have never heard these theories and the valid arguments against them to read for the first time, the proponent of these pet theories is almost never convinced of the error of his or her ways and ends up being banned or just moving along to what they consider easier targets. So, having said all of that it leaves my simple mind to wonder if the Bible itself might address situations such as these. Pr 18:2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; If any of what I have written seems uncharitable I would offer this: 2Tim 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
  9. 6 points
    They CANNOT be the same because they were translated from DIFFERENT textual families and through DIFFERENT viewpoints of textual philosophy. Any talk that the "modern translations" are simply an attempt to "modernize" the language of the King James translations is FALSEHOOD. They are not different because they use "modern, updated language." They are different because they were translated from a DIFFERENT SOURCE. So then, IF the SOURCE for the King James translation is truth, then by definition they must be falsehood. On the other hand, IF the SOURCE for the "modern translations" is truth, then by definition the King James translation is falsehood. As for myself, through the Biblical doctrine of preservation and its doctrinal details, I believe that the source for the "modern translations" is FALSEHOOD. Therefore, I will NOT respect them, but will OPPOSE them. I know that some would claim that a King James Only position is a myth because it does not have direct support from the Holy Scriptures. For me my King James positioning, in opposition to the "modern translations," is a doctrinal CONCLUSION that is BUILT UPON my understanding concerning the DOCTRING OF PRESERVATION. So, I would ask - IS THE BIBLICAL DOCTRINE OF PRESERVATION A MYTH?
  10. 6 points

    Why Large Families?

    While I understand what you are saying, God is bigger than you, myself and money in this area. If God wants someone to have a large family and the money is not there, God WILL provide. God has been known as the Lord who will provide (Genesis 22:14 & 2 Peter 1:11). Did it make sense for the Israelites to leave Egypt when they did not have enough water or food for the trip for the children? Did it make sense for Abraham to bring Isaac into the mountain for a sacrifice? Please don't limit God's ability. I dont think it's fair to make a blanket statement about what you've seen. I have seen what you have seen, and I also have seen God supply and take care of large families that had no financial way to take care of the kids, and I saw God provide and meet need after need. The quantity of kids is not a situation that is across the board. I must trust God in what He tells me, regardless of my bank account. GOD is bigger than anything.
  11. 6 points

    Steven Anderson

    Can you please show some respect for our beliefs already? You are a guest on this site. You aren’t required to agree with it (Re KJV), but you could be a bit more polite and stop throwing your “KJV myth” comments everywhere you possibly can.
  12. 6 points

    Rock Tumbling

    The church I am working at has a home school ministry and I thought it would be a fun thing for the kids to learn about rock polishing/tumbling, so I brought in my little rock tumbler and a few rough gemstones that came with it and showed them how it works. They were a bit disappointed that it's going to take so long to have a finished shiny stone, but are excited to seeing the finished product. The rock tumbler works by turning a barrel of rocks, sand, and water constantly for up to 3-4 weeks depending on your desired shininess or rock type. The tumbler that I got came with four different grits of sand, the first grit is the roughest type and just gets the rocks smoothed out, the final grit is the finest type and polishes the rocks. The rocks have been tumbling for two weeks now, and are now at grit #3 and will tumble for another week before I change the sand again. The pictures are of the tumbler and some random rocks I found, before tumbling, and after the first week of tumbling. Before: After 1 week:
  13. 5 points

    The beauty of creation

    Well, this is a thread about the beauty of creation, right? My guys are pretty handsome, and there are some nice trees in the background. This was taken on Father's Day. The second year in a row we've been able to spend it with our son, after many years without him.
  14. 5 points
    The problem with aligning to those terms is how they are defined by those groups. They don't mean what you mean when you say "Totally Depraved", or "perserverance" as a couple of examples.
  15. 5 points
    The KJV has absolutely no indication that the account of the rich man and Lazarus was a dream in any way. It is stated as a factual, real event experienced personally by these two men.
  16. 5 points
    Sorry, but Jesus didn't say, "And, as he slept, he dreamed that he was in Hell and this is what he went through..." Nope. He said, "And in Hell, he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence." Nowhere in that passage, neither before, during, nor after, does Christ mention anything about a dream. As you've quoted from several scriptures, when someone is dreaming, God makes it clear. What is clear in Luke is that the conscious rich man awoke in Hell. In torment. Not in a nightmare. In eternity.
  17. 5 points

    "This is Our Deed to the Land."

    The land of Israel is firmly established by a written Covenant, the Bible, to the physical, descendants of Abraham, Issac and Jacob: the Jews. The Israeli Ambassador, the Honourable Danny Danon, explains it very plainly when, after quoting Genesis 17:7 & 8, he said, while holding up the Bible, "This is the deed to our land."
  18. 5 points

    How God Funds His Work…

    I started our church 3 years ago. If we waited to have funds to do things, we would not have accomplished much. As long as we followed God, He has always provided. God has been good.
  19. 5 points


    No. To be clear, this site is about Independent Baptists, not just about "Baptists". Some "Baptists" do consider themselves part of the protestant movement, but in general IB churches are INDEPENDENT from all denominations, and are not a close and solid group, but a bunch of independent churches that have similar doctrines because we try to follow the Bible. As to the actual term "protestant" - that is technically referring to those people who were protesting against the Catholic church, and this happened during what is known as the "reformation" where these people were tyring to "reform" the Catholic church "back to the truth". Problem is that the Catholic church was never a true church following the Bible anyway, so to "reform" them is to take them from an unbiblical position to an older unbiblical position. There has however always been a group of people who have tried to follow the Bible alone, and it is this group that IB tentatively trace our heritage back to - not protestant, not Catholic, but Biblical.
  20. 5 points

    Saved before the Cross?????

    I always find it interesting when people try to suggest that salvation was not possible before the cross, or when they at least say that salvation was different before the cross. I find it interesting because Paul doesn't agree with either of those propositions. How can I state it so categorically? Oh I don't know...…. 2Ti 3:15 (15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. Which Scriptures do you suppose that Timothy knew from his childhood? Act 17:10-11 (10) And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. (11) These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Which Scriptures do suppose the Bereans searched as they checked whether the things that Paul preached were so? Well, When Timothy was a child I doubt that they had much in the way of the New Testament written, and the Bereans were checking before at least the vast majority of the NT was written. Little Timmy knew the Holy Scriptures which are able to make him wise UNTO SALVATION. BEFORE most if not all of the NT was written. That means that Paul said to Timothy that the OT Scriptures could tell someone how to be saved the NT way - through faith in Jesus Christ...……….. And what about those Bereans - they searched the Scriptures to check on what Paul was preaching. They searched the OT Scriptures to check on what Paul was preaching. What was Paul preaching? Act 17:2-3 (2) And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, (3) Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ. Notice that it was his manner to preach this, and what he preached was that Jesus Christ had to suffer and die, and rise again from the dead. The Bereans believed Paul's preaching because hen they checked out the OT to see if Paul was preaching truth, they found it was true - FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT - and they got saved. This means that the OT told people how to be saved through Jesus Christ. Timothy read the Old Testament, believed it, and got saved - apparently when he was a little child. The Bereans read the Old Testament, believed it, and got saved. And in Timothy it says that those Scriptures are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith in Jesus Christ……. pretty plain to me - the OT tells someone how to be saved through Jesus Christ. And the Bereans were able to confirm in the OT, that salvation is through Jesus Christ, because that is what Paul was preaching. I dunno…… I am just a dumb bloke...…. but it seems pretty obvious to me. The OT tells about Jesus Christ, and what He had to do to save men from their sins - people just had to believe it, just as now they just have to believe it.
  21. 5 points

    Sinking In The Mire

    Sinking In The Mire Jeremiah 38:6a Then took they Jeremiah, and cast him into the dungeon of Malchiah the son of Hammelech, that was in the court of the prison: and they let down Jeremiah with cords. The prophet Jeremiah's enemies gathered together against him, seeking to put him to death. As a result, he was cast into the dungeon, where he began to sink in the mire. Jeremiah 38:6b And in the dungeon there was no water, but mire: so Jeremiah sunk in the mire. Adversities and afflictions will often seem to rise against us, much like Jeremiah's enemies rose against him. Left with no firm footing, you may find yourself sinking in the mire of despair, overwhelmed and oppressed. In the midst of discouragement, your eyes fail you of tears, your voice chokes up and your cry to the gates of Heaven seems to come to no avail, and it becomes harder to look up to the Lord in hope. Psalms 69:1-3 Save me, O God; for the waters are come in unto my soul. I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the floods overflow me. I am weary of my crying: my throat is dried: mine eyes fail while I wait for my God. Isaiah 38:14a Like a crane or a swallow, so did I chatter: I did mourn as a dove: mine eyes fail with looking upward: But the Lord has not forsaken you, He has not forgotten you, He has not left you to face these trials alone or in your own strength. He is only waiting for you to cry out to Him in faith. Will you look to Him to deliver you from your trouble? Will you trust Him? The following quote from the book of Lamentations very likely expresses Jeremiah's prayer from this same dungeon, where he was literally sinking in the mire: Lamentations 3:52-56 Mine enemies chased me sore, like a bird, without cause. They have cut off my life in the dungeon, and cast a stone upon me. Waters flowed over mine head; then I said, I am cut off. I called upon thy name, O LORD, out of the low dungeon. Thou hast heard my voice: hide not thine ear at my breathing, at my cry. Isaiah 38:14b O LORD, I am oppressed; undertake for me. Psalms 56:3-4 What time I am afraid, I will trust in thee. In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me. Jeremiah 38:7-10 Now when Ebedmelech the Ethiopian, one of the eunuchs which was in the king's house, heard that they had put Jeremiah in the dungeon; the king then sitting in the gate of Benjamin; Ebedmelech went forth out of the king's house, and spake to the king, saying, My lord the king, these men have done evil in all that they have done to Jeremiah the prophet, whom they have cast into the dungeon; and he is like to die for hunger in the place where he is: for there is no more bread in the city. Then the king commanded Ebedmelech the Ethiopian, saying, Take from hence thirty men with thee, and take up Jeremiah the prophet out of the dungeon, before he die. Just like King Zedekiah sent his servant Ebedmelech to rescue Jeremiah from his affliction, so too will you find that the Lord God will send His servant (whatever He may choose, however He may choose - according to His will) to help you in your distress. (Note: the name Ebedmelech literally means "servant of the King".) When the mire seems the deepest and you are ready to give up, you will find your Heavenly Father is still at work behind the scenes, setting in motion the plan that will release you from your imprisonment. Psalms 91:14-16 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation. Lamentations 3:57-58 Thou drewest near in the day that I called upon thee: thou saidst, Fear not. O Lord, thou hast pleaded the causes of my soul; thou hast redeemed my life. Jeremiah 38:11-13 So Ebedmelech took the men with him, and went into the house of the king under the treasury, and took thence old cast clouts and old rotten rags, and let them down by cords into the dungeon to Jeremiah. And Ebedmelech the Ethiopian said unto Jeremiah, Put now these old cast clouts and rotten rags under thine armholes under the cords. And Jeremiah did so. So they drew up Jeremiah with cords, and took him up out of the dungeon: and Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison. Keep your focus on the Lord Jesus Christ, trust in Him and His Word - and like Jeremiah was drawn out of the mire of his prison, so too will you be drawn up out of the mire and the waters that have flooded your soul. Drawn With Cords Hosea 11:4a I drew them with cords of a man, with bands of love. Drawn From Above Psalms 18:16 He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many waters. Set Upon A Rock Psalms 40:1-3 I waited patiently for the LORD; and he inclined unto me, and heard my cry. He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings. And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD. Whatever the situation your are facing now, when it seems that your soul is sinking deep in the mire, look above - and let Jesus draw you up out of that prison of despair, and set your feet back upon the solid rock! Only in Him will you find the firm footing to face the trials of life. Love Lifted Me (Lyrics: James Rowe) I was sinking deep in sin, far from the peaceful shore, Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more, But the Master of the sea, heard my despairing cry, From the waters lifted me, now safe am I. Chorus: Love lifted me! Love lifted me! When nothing else could help Love lifted me! Souls in danger look above, Jesus completely saves, He will lift you by His love, out of the angry waves. He’s the Master of the sea, billows His will obey, He your Savior wants to be, be saved today. November 19th/05 Jerry Bouey http://www.earnestlycontending.com/ewministries/jerry/sinkinginthemire.html
  22. 5 points

    How do you explain the Holy Light?

    Lucian, I would like to challenge your approach to 'proving' what is heretical vs. authentic. Your post appears to suggest that you are allowing miracles to 'prove' truth. I would challenge you that truth should prove all things by itself. I assume you're Orthodox? I think we can establish a base that we can both agree with - that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of God. God Himself inspired its writing, and the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost (2 Peter 1:21). Can we start with the agreement that the Bible is God's direct Word to mankind? As God is Holy, True and Perfect, so His Word is True. It cannot be anything but True. Therefore, we can judge all things by it. We are, in fact, instructed to prove all things; hold fast that which is true (1 Thess. 5:21). Consider: And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few. (Acts 17:10-12) So we are told to look in the Bible to see if what we are taught by other sources is true. Consider also: For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2 Peter 1:16-21) Here Peter is referring to the Transfiguration described in Matthew 17. This was an amazing, miraculous event where the disciples not only saw Jesus as God in His glory, but also saw the great (dead) prophets speaking to Him! What an amazing sign and event this was - yet Peter tells us in this passage that the written Word of God (the Bible) is a more sure source of information and truth (i.e. prophecy) than that miraculous sign. The principle here is that the Bible is to be our first source of Truth - more so than any sign. We do see in the Bible where at different times, God used signs & wonders - especially in His dealing with the Jews. But that was never His primary form of communication. God sent prophets to tell His people His truth; many of those prophets He used to write down His Word in the Bible. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (Matthew 23:37). Moreover, we are repeatedly warned that there will be false prophets, and false christs, that will use signs and wonders to deceive people: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders... (2 Thess. 2:9) And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many... Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. (Matthew 24:11, 23-25) (Mark 13:21-22) And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast... (Rev. 13:11-14a) This last one specifically refers to fire being used as a false sign! Remember also, that in the time of the Exodus, the priests of the false Egyptian gods were able to recreate some of the miracles of the plagues. Satan is not without power, and uses that power to deceive people lest they believe in the true Gospel of God and be saved. And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the Lord had said. And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt. (Exodus 7:22; 8:17) This, then, is what the Bible says about all signs and wonders; that they must be proven by Scripture, that Scripture is always the final Word, and that they can be the work of false prophets and must not be implicitly trusted. Is this Holy Fire used to demonstrate the veracity of Orthodoxy? Then one must look at the doctrine of Orthodoxy. How does it compare to the Bible? Ephesians 2:5-6 says: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Not of works, lest any man should boast. Is Orthodox doctrine in agreement with this? Does it agree with the teaching of Isaiah 53 and the rest of Scripture which teach that Christ is our substitutionary atonement - that God literally accepted His Death as sacrifice for sin in our stead? If not, you must reject the doctrines of men in favor of the teaching of the Word of God. Trying to worship God using the doctrines of men is vain. Look at Matthew 15:9 (But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men) and Mark 7:7; study Colossians 2 which warns about replacing the simple Gospel of faith in Jesus Christ's finished work alone for a works-based attempt at pleasing God. (which can never succeed: But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah 64:6) You had asked what I thought about the Holy Fire. First, my library training (I'm a Library Tech by education) teaches me not to trust a site that has an inherent interest in the subject. In other words, of course an Orthodox site will cite proof for this phenomenon. Any claim of scientific proof needs to be backed up by an impartial witness. Secondly, a quick Wikipedia search shows that this phenomenon has apparently been debunked by multiple individuals over the past millennium. Thirdly, (and actually the most important), since the Bible warns me of false teachers using miracles, and since I know Orthodox doctrine is not in line with the Bible, I honestly don't care whether it's an authentic miracle or a hoax. It could be a miracle of Satan, or it could be a hoax of the priests. Doesn't matter. I will trust the Bible, God's Word, as True and Truth and follow its teachings rather than that of the Orthodox church. Food for thought. I was not 'raised Baptist', rather as a born-again believer I choose to attend the Baptist church that I do because I believe its teachings align most closely with the Bible.
  23. 5 points
    John Young

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    A selection of all the "Goofs and booboos" of the modernist movement in the ongoing process of trying to find and fix the Goofs and booboos.... I'm sure the'll get them all eventually...
  24. 5 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    I never put much weight into those who is against the KJV only when their only explanation is experience, common sense, & audience request. I'll put my faith and trust in God and His Word, not what man says. As to the original topic: While I believe the KJV is perfectly preserved for English speaking people, I do not have a problem with Archaic words being updated. Modern version failed because they have changed meaning of verses by re translating the verse.
  25. 5 points

    Cards For Randy DePriest

    LuAnne, (HappyChristian) gave me permission to post an address to send Randy get well wishes and to let him know people everywhere are praying for his speedy recovery. Please send the cards to his church, some of you may already have this address but here it is again: Pastor Randy DePriest c/o Lighthouse Baptist Church 108 Airport Road Port Townsend, WA 98368 I'm sure it will encourage Randy and the Church at Port Townsend.
  26. 5 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    Actually, I find that much of a modern English use is dumbed down and oversimplified. We don’t use nearly the breadth of language available to us in classic English. I have no desire to use a Bible whose language has similarly been simplified to the point it can no longer be accurate. The scholarly knowledge present in the KJV is also something that can hardly be replicated today. I wouldn’t trust modern “translators” to have the same language knowledge. Ever studied just how educated they were, and how many steps were taken to remove bias or inaccuracy from the text? The specificity provided by the singular/plural meanings of thou/you are not always discernible from the context. And where they are, it really is a lot easier to understand the difference from the word itself, rather than studying it out through the context. Why wouldn’t you want to use what’s available?
  27. 5 points
    Maybe you have the daunting task of putting together your church bulletin, or just maybe you have read the church bulletin on a Sunday Morning and got a little chuckle on how a sentence was worded or the wrong placement of a comma. Here is a list of some of my favorite things that have somehow made its way into our church bulletin. Reminds us that we all need proofreaders at times. Enjoy. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery down stairs. The eighth graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in the church basement on Friday at 7 pm. The congregation is invited to attend the tragedy. This being Easter Sunday, we will ask Mrs. Lewis to come forward and lay an egg on the altar. Thursday night: Potluck Supper - Prayer and medication will follow. Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles, and other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children. Weight Watchers meeting has been moved to 6pm. Please use the double doors when entering. Evening massage - 7 p.m. Next Sunday we have a soloist for the morning service. The pastor will then preach on "It's a Terrible Experience." Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community. Don't let worry kill you off - let the church help. A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall. Music will follow. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be "What is hell?" Come early and listen to our choir practice. The choir invites any member of the congregation who enjoys sinning to join the choir. You have a funny blooper from your church bulletin? Please comment it below.
  28. 5 points

    Hubs in the hospital...

    Yesterday Randy's INR made it to 1.9. This morning he called me at 8:30 to inform me that it had jumped to 2.4! The doctor was happy - and told him he was going to send him home today! He told him it wouldn't be til this evening because they had to shut off the heparin and they need to monitor things for a bit with that. The Lord's timing is interesting - this is the first Sunday of the month, so we have afternoon service following lunch, and no evening service (usually we go to the nursing home, but because Randy was in the hospital we had to cancel this month). So I talked to Randy about 3 pm. He told me the doctor said he could come home at 5. Yeehaw! Josh drove me to the hospital, and we got there at 4:55. I helped Randy get dressed and away we went! The hematoma is still there, and still causing him pain. But he is able to bend his leg a bit - and the horrible bruising has really been clearing up (his entire thigh was badly bruised). After 18 days away, Randy is home! The doctor is pretty optimistic that the warfarin is dissolving the DVT. He'll likely have an ultra sound some time soon just to be sure (at least I hope so!). He has to see his primary doctor as soon as possible, so we'll be calling for an appt tomorrow. They were testing his INR every day, but now it'll stretch a bit further. He goes in Tuesday for it and then again Friday. He was able to take a shower for the first time since the morning of Feb. 14. Boy, was he happy! And he didn't miss out on the cowboy baked beans I made for church today. I so appreciate your prayer. I would appreciate continued prayer that the DVT would dissolve and that the hematoma would continue to shrink as the muscle continues to heal. It's been so great to glance over at his chair and see him in it.
  29. 5 points

    Old and unmarried

    I'm a woman, but figure I'll throw my two cents in. You're younger than I am, and I've been single, never dated, my whole life. My situation is different than yours, I lived in a highly Christian/Baptist saturated area, went to a Baptist Bible college and never met "the one". Now I'm dedicated to be a missionary to a country where it's very rare to bump into single Christian, Baptist, missionary men. I decided a long time ago that I would only be interested in a man who is also dedicated to being a missionary to the same country God called me to, knowing I'd probably never marry because of this. God has given me peace concerning this situation. Are there times where I feel lonely or sad that I may never marry? Yes, those feelings are only natural. But, again, God gives me peace of heart and I feel satisfied that God's will for my life, whether I marry or not, is the best way to live my life. For your situation, would you really rather marry someone who will probably physically abuse you and cheat on you with another woman? Is that security? Is that love? Will your life have any peace? Is it so bad to be a single woman that you would rather be abused? I just don't understand. Is there any way you could move to a less depraved city or country? Is something preventing you from moving? How did you become a Christian? Are there no other Christians or churches in the area who can help you? I beg you to turn to Christ for peace and security and not a man with empty promises. Please trust Christ. To answer your question: It is unacceptable for a believer to marry an unbeliever, even though it sadly happens all the time. II Corinthians 6:14-18 "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
  30. 5 points

    What do you love about your church?

    I love the fellowship. I love the close relationship. I love the sincerity in worship. I enjoy going to church.
  31. 5 points

    Pre-Trib or Post-Trib?

    Tej, Good question. In my studies of the prophecies of the Old Testament and the New Testament, long ago, I came to the conclusion that the coming of the Lord Jesus for the saints in the church will occur before the 7-Year Tribulation starts in Revelation 6:1 Since this last December, at our church I have been teaching a verse-by-verse study of 1 & 2 Thessalonians. Below is a chart that I made for that study. The chart is a "work in progress." And, I have already told the congregation that there will be an individual chart made for the five subjects covered in the chart. So, I am sure that there will be some changes (hopefully not major), in the weeks ahead. I do hope that the above chart on 1 & 2 Thessalonians will help answer your question. If there is something not understood on the chart, or if anyone has a question, or you see a mistake, please ask or discuss. Alan Note on February 11, 2019. I have done a detailed study on, "The Day of the Lord," and the book of Isaiah, and the fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecies in the book of Revelation, for my current study at our church. Due to the complexity of the, "Day of Christ," and "The Day of the Lord," I am in the process of revising the chart on 1 Thessalonians 5:2, "Day of the Lord," & 2 Thessalonians 2:2, "The Day of Christ" to make it more clearer and more precise. Once I am finished with the chart(s) I will attach the revised chart on this study and more appropriate passages from Isaiah. Alan
  32. 5 points

    Looking to convert.

    Not many IFB churches officially identify as such - most just call themselves independent Baptist. It is the clear reliance on the Bible, and the intent to follow the Bible in all things that separates a poor church from a fundamental Baptist church.
  33. 5 points

    Fort Worth Star-Telegram Series

    Ok this has gone on long enough. We have rules for posting on these forums, rules that the new people in this thread have obviously not read. Here is the one pertinent to this thread: We will not allow the following c) Members that come just to argue doctrine instead of fellowship. I am locking this thread for the above stated reason. Any further attempt by anyone to start a new thread on the same subject will be cause to ban that person.
  34. 5 points

    Rock Tumbling

    Wow! Beautiful rocks. Thank you for the article on Rock Tumbling. Looking forward to the end result. The rocks in their natural state (full of dirt, scratches, grime, dross and imperfections), were not as beautiful, or useful for public display, or for sale, as much as after they were polished, as before. Right off the top of my head I can think of some illustrations concerning a new life in Christ, and the beauty of salvation, once the Lord polishes us up and takes away the "rough" edges off of us. "Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer." Proverbs 25:4 "If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work." 2 Timothy 2:21
  35. 5 points

    The beauty of creation

    I have some great kids. They sent my wife and I for a short break 'down south' to a town on the south coast called Denmark. The view is to the Southern Ocean.
  36. 4 points
    John Young

    Feminist believer

    The things that are good in feminism are not original to it. So I would say it is never an acceptable philosophy because its foundations are based on errant ideas. Those few good things are better found in the study of the biblical family structure.
  37. 4 points
    Yes, this. /\ Calvinism’s definition of total depravity includes the inability to choose Christ. You cannot embrace one part of the doctrine without tacitly accepting false doctrines.
  38. 4 points

    ANZAC Day

    Day of remembrance for Australian and New Zealand soldiers. "Lest we forget....." The Ode They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them. Lest we forget......
  39. 4 points
    Jordan Kurecki

    What do you think?

  40. 4 points
    No Nicolaitans

    Lazarus Sleepeth

    Hi Patrick. First, I think it's important to point out that Lazarus didn't go to heaven; he would have gone to Abraham's bosom...which was in the center of the earth. You may be familiar with the account of the rich man and Lazarus (the beggar)? When both died, the rich man went to hell, and Lazarus went to Abraham's bosom...which were separated by a great gulf. It was only after the resurrection of Christ that people who were saved went to heaven. Next, I think it's important to point out that we don't know whether Lazarus described his experience to others or not. The Holy Spirit has given us all of the account that he wants us to know. Always remember that just because something isn't recorded in God's word, that doesn't mean something did or didn't happen. However, we do have a description of what Lazarus would have experienced in the account of the rich man and Lazarus (the beggar). Finally, I think it's VERY important to point out that God would never contradict himself. If one verse claims a specific thing, but another verse "seems" to say something different, then it requires more study. I think the answer to your question regarding Ecclesiastes 9:5 is found in the very next verse... 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun. Basically, it's saying that those who die unsaved will no longer have any knowledge of what goes on in this world any longer. So no...I would say that it doesn't prove soul-sleep. Take care!
  41. 4 points

    Birth control for health issues?

    I get suspicious when I hear doctors prescribing birth control pills to solve other problems. This evil culture seems determined to sterilize people at all costs – discouraging committed marriage, encouraging transgenderism and homosexuality - I would not at all be surprised if the trend toward using birth control pills to solve other problems is one more way of producing this effect. I did some research on this once and found that regular use of birth control pills can produce long-term fertility issues – even long after stopping the use of the pill. Whether single or married, if you hope to have children someday, you should avoid using it. Just seems that with all the medicines out there today, there should be some that will produce the same effects without the abortionaid effect.
  42. 4 points

    Reply to Lust

    James, I think there are some wise mentors among the men here who may be able to help you with your struggle. However, a mixed forum is really not the best place to discuss this. May I suggest that you join the forum (as a member, not just a guest)? You can then continue this discussion in the men’s area.
  43. 4 points

    Happy Birthday Online Baptist!

    This site is old enough to have a drivers license. They grow up so fast.
  44. 4 points

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    (My last post was posted at the same time as Mr Roby, when it seemed as though he was ignoring the thread....) Oh my - the old Easter issue..... Have you READ the Bible sir? Acts 12 3 And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.) 4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered himto four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. Notice in the text quoted above that vs 3 says he arrested Peter in the days of unleavened bread? That is somewhat significant, as the days of unleavened bread was the feast that directly followed the Passover feast. That means that the Day of Passover had already finished and sometime during the next 6 days Peter was arrested, during the days of unleavened bread. It may take some actual Bible study, but if you research the Passover and also the feast of unleavened bread you will see it is true. Therefore when Herod intended to bring forth Peter after Easter, it CANNOT POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN referring to the Passover, for that was already days past when Peter was arrested. Sure enough Easter as we know it today was not a known named event, but the pagan feast of harvest was certainly known, and at that time, and based on the harvest moons, just as Easter is today. The Translators, who were aware of the pagan feast and its alignment with modern Easter used the CORRECT term to distinguish the even from the Passover WHICH ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE TEXT, it could not have been, seeing the Passover was already days past, and it was now the time of the feast of unleavened bread. Any version that renders the word as passover rather than Easter is simply incorrect according to the Bible itself. Easter is the correct rendering, and in fact the only rendering that makes Biblical sense. Strike one, try again.
  45. 4 points

    Hubs in the hospital...

    Last night after I visited Randy, they put him back on blood thinner - Heparin, via IV. They had measured his leg and it was apparently smaller. That, coupled with the doctor finding that his leg had more give to it must indicate that the bleeding stopped. He told me this morning that the doctor told him yesterday that MAYBE he will be able to come home Saturday. They are thinking about putting him back on the warfarin. They'll keep him on the heparin as long as he's in the hospital, though , as a bridge to going completely to the warfarin. I don't know what we'll do about the DVT - if the thinners are dissolving it, there won't be need for surgery. Nothing definite about him coming home Saturday, and I am not getting my hopes up (well, trying not to, LOL). But this is definitely a good step. Yesterday his CK level was down a bit more, but they are still 16x too high. Specific prayer regarding that would be appreciated.
  46. 4 points

    My father is dying.

    My father, who is 80 years old is dying. He has stage 4 colon cancer that has metastasized as well to his liver causing as the doctor stated "more tumors than can be counted" on his liver. Last night he went into emergency surgery because his colon ruptured. Needless to say none of this is operable or curable and prognosis is less than 2 months tops if he survives what happened last night. Now for the good news. My dad has a very solid testimony of salvation and obvious influences of the Holy Spirit in his life. However, my brother Jeff is lost, knows it, and doesn't care. My sister I am not sure about. She says she is saved but her beliefs are modern neo-evangelical "works salvation" since she believes every time you drop a stitch you need to be re-saved. Has never read the bible and has no desire to (which I don't understand if you are truly saved). My prayer is more for my brother and sister than my dad who is at peace with finally going home. Prayer for him would simply be that he passes as comfortably as possible. Bro. Garry In His will. By His power. For His glory.
  47. 4 points

    My father is dying.

    Edward Richard Santos Jr., 81. Passed Away peacefully from this life and on to eternal life today January the eleventh at 11:45 p.m. A great Man. A great Father to us. I am so honored to have had you for my father. Now is a time of tears for us, yet joy too, in knowing the unspeakable joy that is now his for all of eternity. I look forward to the time when we will all be United again. 1 Corinthians 15:55 (KJV) 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? Psalm 116:15 (KJV) 15 Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints. We who are alive and remain will celebrate a race well run by my father. Well named was the Holy Spirit as the Great Comforter. Thank you Jesus for giving me the strength to be at his side when he entered into glory! All praise, honor and glory forever! In His will. By His power. For His glory.
  48. 4 points

    Absence of Doctrinal Authority

    If you have trusted Christ as your Saviour, then baptism is a good and proper thing to do, and a good thing to be desired. But you need to be certain that you are not desiring it because you think, in any way, that it will help assure your salvation. Baptism is a work - a thing we can do in obedience to God - thus to reliance on it in the least little bit for grace for salvation means that a person is not relying wholly and completely on Christ for salvation. And if we are depending on anything other than Christ alone as the propitiation for our sin (there's a good word to study!), then we are not truly saved.
  49. 4 points
    The thing with any pastor and church is that you will have to try their spirit. Occasionally a pastor will have to call out a false teacher but their main ministry should be feeding the flock of God that they have been called to. If they are only putting down others and lifting up them selves while teaching very little actual bible doctrine, Then they should be avoided. If they have the Spirit of God in them then you will be encouraged and refreshed and motivated by the preaching and teaching, even when they occasionally have the sad and solom duty of calling out a false teaching or errant brothers. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Acts 20:27-29 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Philippians 4:7-9 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. 8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things arejust, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. 9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you. 2 Corinthians 10:12-13 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. 13 But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you. Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
  50. 4 points

    Just wondering ...............

    This is an extremely long post that I can’t shorten since our trip consisted of 30 days and 14 thousand miles. Probably the worst part for me was traffic. I live extremely remote and there just is no traffic at all. All up and down the eastern sea board the traffic is horrible near metropolitan areas. It was very stressful driving in this. This post was originally sent as an update for friends and family. I am sending this to notify everyone of our safe return home. I am also sending information about our trip that some of you may not know since there were things that happened after we visited you. For instance, some of you got to meet my traveling companion, A.J. and some did not due to his medical problems incurred during our trip. The trip began on schedule November 1st. We left California and headed northeast to Route I-80, which we would take almost all the way to the east coast. Our first stop was in Indiana to visit my friend and his wife. They have retired and moved to Indiana from western Mass. They have a beautiful home and graciously put us up for the night. We had a very nice visit and had fun recalling days gone by when mining in California. We woke the next morning and as I was walking from their kitchen to the living room, I stepped off of a step-down in the floor and fell on my knee that I had already hurt earlier in the year. I am already very unstable due to Neuropathy in my legs and this just made it worse. I use a cane at all times, but this fall made it extremely difficult. Fortunately my traveling companion had a set of Canadian Crutches which fit to the arms that I could use, this made walking a lot easier. We left my friend’s the next day and again headed east, Next stop was Pennsylvania to visit some of A.J.'s old and dear professors at Penn State University. He had a short and emotional visit with them on campus and then we were off again headed for Maine. In Maine I was to visit with my old and dear friend Don and his wife Paula. Don was also retired and had moved to Maine from Mass. in his retirement. We met at his lovely retirement home in Waterboro Maine and had a great time reliving our youth and all the things we had done together. Don and I were best friends through our mid teens and until our mid twenties, we were inseparable. He was my best man at my wedding. We had not seen each other since we were in our mid twenties, so this was a meeting I was anxious to do, we were now in our late seventies. It is hard to think that it had been fifty years since we had last seen each other. We finally arrived at his house where he guided us in from the highway. It was a highly emotional meeting for both of us, but after we settled down a bit the stories of old times flew. Paula had a welcome surprise for A.J. and I, a real home cooked New England fish chowder. This was the first time I has tasted real fish chowder in almost fifty years and it was wonderful. We did not stay overnight with Don and Paula because they had family staying over in preparation for a family gathering the next day at Niagara Falls. So A.J. and I set out once again, this time we turned south and headed for Mass. to see my daughter next. Little did we realize the tragedy that was impending after we left. Two days later I got an email from Paula saying that Don had passed away in Niagara Falls were they were with family the day after we visited them. This was a terrible shock to me and is still hard to grasp. I consider myself very fortunate that we were able to reunite once again before he passed away, the timing was incredible. Although we were apart for a long time, I will sorely miss him. Once in Mass. we visited my daughter. It was a very nice visit, but only for a day. since we were scheduled to meet one of A.J.'s friends in South Carolina on a certain day. So, from here we once again headed south. The first stop was to visit with my younger brother in North Carolina. My brother and his wife were in the process of moving, they had just sold their house. So we got a motel room for the night and were able to meet with him the next morning. His wife was not able to come because she had a bad night and was worn out from the moving. But we had a nice visit with him and got all caught up on our lives presently. It was a short visit, as were most of the visits we had, but it was very gratifying in the context of renewing family ties with loved ones. We left my brother and headed south once again to South Carolina, this time the destination was to see one of A.J.'s best friends. We had been keeping in touch with him by phone along the way so we knew that he was still traveling and in Tennessee at this time and not at home in North Carolina. As it turned out he would not be home by the time we got there, so A.J. decided to bypass him for the time being and visit him after we visited his mother and family in Florida. As it turned out, he lives on a Marine military base so it was not possible for us to just wait for him because we could not get access to the base without him being there. So we got a motel room for the night and I called my wife, Linda at home, as I did every night on this trip. This time she had some very disturbing news; trouble on the home front. Linda keeps three miniature goats for milk and this morning one of them turned up missing. Linda looked and called everywhere with no response. Goats are herd animals, so they do not readily wander away from the herd. Even if one gets out of the pasture, the rest usually follow, which they have done in the past. We live very remote, our nearest neighbor is six miles away. Linda was convinced that something had got the missing goat. We have Mountain Lions, as well as Bears and Coyotes in the area. Since she couldn't find the missing goat and it had not come back, I suggested that she call Fish and Game and report the incident. She did that and they sent out a trapper two days later. Meanwhile she had taken measures to assure that the remaining goats were safe. When the trapper came, he found what was left of the missing goat, which was only hair and skin. He determined from the tracks that a bear had killed and eaten the goat, so he set a trap for it. Suffice to say that the bear did not come back and was not caught. Meanwhile Linda was rethinking what to do about the situation in a long term sense. She decided that it would be best to sell the remaining two goats, which she was able to do immediately. We had been looking at finding a permanent place to live for some time and right at this time an offer came up which Linda immediately took. So now, not only our problem with the goats and bear were solved, but our living conditions also changed for the better. So now A.J. and I continued on to Florida where we would visit my brother on the Gulf Coast and then A. J.'s family in Miami. When we left home we knew that his family was planning a "get together" on a certain day, so A.J. had to be there on that day. When we got to my brother’s place we had three days before the family "get together" with A.J.'s family. So A.J. formulated a plan whereby he would leave me at my brother's place while he went to visit his mother before the family meeting, then drive back to pick me up and return to Miami once again. One of the things he had hoped to accomplish on this trip was to make sure his mother was set up to live alone since his father had just recently passed away. Leaving me at my brother's would allow him to accomplish this, one on one with his mother and free from family obligations, while still allowing for the family meeting. This resulted in a turn of events that could not have been anticipated. After meeting my brother, A.J. left for his mother's place in Miami and successfully met with her there. He returned to my brother's place to pick me up the next day, but the unexpected struck. He stopped at a convenience store near my brother's place to get a case of drinking water. After putting the water in the van he evidently turned just a bit wrong and his back went out, causing him extreme pain and actually putting him on the ground, where he couldn't get up. He was able to call us and tell us what had happened, whereby we immediately left to get him. On arrival he was still on the ground, in extreme pain. We decided he had to go to the emergency room of the nearest V.A. hospital. He had to go to V.A. because he is a vet and any medical has to go through them. Fortunately there was one in nearby Fort Meyers, Fla. V. A. hospitals are not known for providing the best medical services and this one was no different. They didn't do much for diagnosing what was wrong, but instead they concentrated on pain relief. It took a strong dose of Morphine to deaden the pain and they also gave him pain meds as a prescription for after the Morphine wore off. This back problem started a chain of events that would last throughout the rest of our trip. After coming back to my brother's place from the emergency room, A.J. decided that it would be best to leave immediately for his mother's place in Miami and before the Morphine wore off and perhaps he could get more meds there. He knew he would not be able to travel if the Morphine wore off and the prescription meds didn't quite cut it for pain relief. The trip from my brother's place on the Gulf Coast to Miami would take about three hours, so we set out right away. I will say that even in the midst of this unexpected turn of events, I still was able to have a nice visit with my brother and his wife, which was one of my goals on this trip. So we set out immediately for Miami before the Morphine wore off. Arriving in Miami we immediately met with A.J.'s brother for a dinner date and to allow them to discuss their mother as well as the upcoming family meeting. After the dinner date we went to his mother's place where we would stay for the next couple of days until the family meeting. By now the Morphine had worn off and there was considerable pain that the prescription meds couldn't stop. A.J. was trying to deal with the pain as best he could, but with no success, he was in a lot of pain. His mother and I set out to find him a V. A. hospital that might once again give him some relief. We finally found one and once again they could only provide some pain relief, with nothing being done for the actual problem. A. J.'s family meeting was the next day but he didn't feel he could make it due to severe pain issues. He instead elected to turn north again in search of a V. A. hospital that could do something for him. All in all we visited five different hospitals in three days. We went all the way back to South Carolina since we were going that way anyway to visit his best friend before turning west on our trip. He was able to have the problem diagnosed in a V. A. hospital there and it turned out to be a severe case of Sciatica. They determined that only surgery could heal the problem because it was caused by a lot of calcium build-up which was compressing the nerves. Since we had to make it back home he elected to just get enough pain meds to get him back home after resting enough to get some relief. He couldn't sit in the van seat, so the pain had to be dealt with before leaving again. I have had this condition before, although not as severe as this was. I had found a way to help get some relief and actually make the pinching let go and suggested this to him. It consists of finding a rafter or beam that you can reach to hang by. Pull your legs up in a fetal position and twist from the waist. He tried it at his friend’s house and it worked. But it was still very tender and he wanted to baby it before moving on, so he spent a couple of days and nights sitting and laying on the hard floor, which was the only position that didn't hurt too much. Unfortunately the next morning while walking from the kitchen he once again moved just wrong and it hit him extremely hard. He fell to the floor and was in excruciating pain, yelling for us to call 911 for para-medics. When they got there they said they had never seen anyone in such extreme pain. They took him to the emergency room and the Morphine shots began all over again, but at least it deadened the pain. After coming back to his friend’s house and evaluating the situation he decided that there was just no way he dared continue our trip. He had to get back home where the V.A. hospital he had been dealing with before was. He needed the surgery, but also needed to be home where he could recuperate from it. He decided to fly back home because the hospital told him they would give him enough pain meds to make the trip. This would leave me to drive his van back home alone for the second part of the trip. We were half way into the trip at this point. It turned out that for him to fly to his home city in Oregon would take 22 hours and numerous plane transfers; He wouldn't have enough pain meds for that length of time. But he found that he could get a direct flight from N.C. to Sacramento, CA. which was much shorter. Then he would have to rest up and wait in a motel a couple of days for me to get there. Once there I picked him up and we were able to make the short trip home from Sacramento. So, with all that said, we are back home and hopefully he is getting the treatment he needs, or soon will be. I am undergoing Physical Therapy for my knee, which turned out to be torn cartilage.
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