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    Wesco Family to Cameroon

    We have been praying for the wife and children. We will be sending a love offering to the church for them.
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    Wesco Family to Cameroon

    One thing I have seen in situations where a missionary has to leave the field and return home is that a nu.ber of supporting churches will immediately stop support because the missionary is no longer working in missions. I can't understand how people could be so heartless, but I have seen it. More than once. Pray specifically for their financial situation, as well as for their general spiritual and emotional strength.
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    Wesco Family to Cameroon

    From this morning: They are HOME!!! ALL OF THEM!! PRAISE THE LORD!! They had several long flights and some layovers that were very long. They are all understandably exhausted. Obviously their greatest need is prayer, but I know how great financial stresses can be for just one person. Stephanie, being a mother of 8, this stress will be compounded. I cannot even imagine how difficult these next few weeks will be for them! Putting myself in her shoes, with the little that I’ve heard keeps me praying & sharing with others constantly. Will you continue to pray? Will you share with your friends, churches & family? Will you pray about giving? God sure has blessed me with amazing friends!! Sure appreciate each of your hearts for others!
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    Huntsville, AL

    I failed to mention where we ultimately went. We visited Madison Baptist Church and enjoyed it immensely! We felt right at home in what for us is a HUGE church. In fact we sent and then they picked up as missionaries, Neal and Kelsie Cullers to Taiwan. The Cullers are now at 108% of targeted deputation goal and should be leaving for the field in March 2019!
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    Fishers of Men

    And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. (Matthew 4:19) There are always disagreements that I have with certain preachers and bible teachers of the past and the present; however, I do find one statement from C.H. Spurgeon that is absolutely TRUE as the Word of God can testify of its veracity. It is: "Have you no wish for others to be saved? Then you're not saved yourself, be sure of that!" The Word of God is replete with passages instructing us to minister to those who are lost and in dire need of the Gospel message (Matt. 9:37-38; 10:7-14; Mk. 16:15; Rom. 1:16; 1 Cor. 1:17; 2 Cor. 5:20; Eph. 2:10; 4:11; 2 Tim. 2:15; 4:5; 1 Pet. 3:15). The major problem in "Christendom" today is that most of the "soldiers" have fallen by the wayside and given up. Even more disturbing are those in a higher position who have been given MORE talents in order to serve the Lord as they were called to do so; and that they seem to have no interest in saving those who are in danger of hellfire (cf. Jas. 3:1). I am NOT speaking of those who disemminate false teachings on a regualr basis; I am speaking of unbelievers who are NOT saved and are caught up in a cycle of sin which entangles them. The bible refers to such "servants" of the Lord as "fearful"; and "ashamed of the Gospel" (cf. Rev. 21:8; Matt. 25:26; Rom. 1:16). Since our Lord used the fishing analogy -- and our Lord has made all of us believers "fishers of men" (Matt.4:19; Mk.1:17) -- we also know that every fisherman has his/her own technique and that all fish are different too. What all fish have in common is that if they are not biting, we are not going to catch them. But if they ARE biting, then a practiced fisherman who exercises patience always has a good chance. And in terms of actual witnessing, God is the One who is empowering the process and bringing success (cf. Ps. 90:17; Isa. 64:4; Eph. 2:10; Phil. 2:13; 1 Thess. 2:13; Heb. 13:21). Divine love is the "anchor point" which compels genuine believers to reach out to the lost; and this is a sure sign that one has truly passed from death unto life (Matt. 7:12; Jn. 13:34-35; 1 Jn. 4:8-21). So the first thing is to determine if we really are being offered an opportunity. That is fairly easy to do, it seems to me. If the person knows we are Christian (our outward manifestation of our hearts and motives; Matt. 5:16; 23:3; 1 Cor. 11:1; Eph. 5:1; Phil. 3:17; Col. 3:17; 2 Thess. 3:9; 1 Tim. 4:12; Tit. 2:7; 3 Jn. 1:11; et al.), and if we dangle a little bait, something like, "yes, the recent tragedy at XYZ is terrible -- I don't know HOW people get through this world without the Christian hope!" Now if someone really is searching for the solution to sin and death, they are likely to nibble at that one (and, by the way, I'm NOT suggesting this particular one for me -- everyone has their own way of stating the divine and godly viewpoint of anticipation of salvation and eternal life, and every prospective believer is different too, and we must take the audience into account in how exactly we express the truth, remembering that the truth always has to be presented truly). If they don't nibble, we might want to think about waiting for a better time and a better opportunity. We can't force the issue. We wait in the boat for a bite. We can wiggle the hook, but we can't make the fish bite. If we bang on the water with an oar and command the fish to come up, guess what. We may be making ourselves feel better ("Look at me! I witnessed to so and so!" -- but they didn't respond), but we are not winning anyone to the Lord that way. The fish have a vote, because it's all about free will (Ps. 37:23; Prov. 16:9; Josh. 24:15; Jn. 1:12-13; 7:17; Rom. 10:9-10; cf. Rev. 3:20). What if they do nibble? I think it can be a mistake to introduce the issue of sin IMMEDIATELY in giving the gospel, except for the critical facts that we are all sinners, that Christ died for all of our sins, and that all of our sins are forgiven when we believe (Lk. 24:45-49; Rom. 1:16; 10:9-13,14; 1 Cor. 15:1-28; Eph. 1:13-14; 1 Pet. 3:18-22; 1 Jn. 4:9-10). Don't forget: the gospel changes all who respond to it. The heart is washed clean. The person is given a new heart, one devoid of hardness. At the point of salvation, the new believer is freed from all prior sinful entanglement (Ezek. 36:26; Rom. 6:6; 2 Cor. 3:18; 5:17; Eph. 4:24; 1 Jn. 5:4). If they really are ready to persevere with the Lord from that point forward, He will help them to walk a sanctified walk, and change whatever it is that needs to be changed. But if we make an issue of some sin or sinful behavior in which they are enmeshed BEFORE the fact, then we are putting conditions on salvation -- and there are no conditions on salvation . . . except to accept the Gift of Jesus Christ, acknowledging who He is and what He has done for us through faith in Him. Death is something everyone dreads (except believers), and the offer of life eternal is the most wonderful thing on this earth. To avoid death, darkness and judgment is worth all a person has, like selling everything for the pearl of great price. If the Spirit convicts someone's heart of that truth, they will flee death by running to the gospel; they will need little convincing from us. The Spirit is the One who really does the convincing (Jn. 14:15-17,26; 16:8; 2 Cor. 7:9-10). Our job is to provide the truth, the simple yet incredibly powerful truth of the gospel. It is not up to us to try and fine tune an "after response". If we do that, there may very well be no "after response" because the person will see the gospel as huge load that requires them to "give up" this and that. Now we know very well ourself that we all ended up giving up "this and that" after we believed because the gospel and the truth we learn and accept thereafter changed us. It is the same for everyone. But that happens AFTER; it is not a BEFORE condition. And we don't have to worry about "saying sin is OK" either, not if we are witnessing correctly. Now if we are jamming the gospel down the throats of people who aren't interested in it, then this may be an issue because they are only interested in justifying their conduct and not in being saved, so that is where the discussion went. But if we are really only responding in love to those few who demonstrate that they DO want the truth, then it will all work fine (cf. 1 Jn. 4:11; Prov. 15:1-7; 27:6; Lk. 6:27; Rom. 8:28; 12:9-21; 1 Cor. 13:4-7; Col. 3:12). If they want eternal life and are grateful to accept Jesus Christ, guess what? They will easily begin to turn their lives to Him in all respects after they are saved. That is, if we net them after we have fished them. How do we net them? All too many Christians and even major Christian groups engaged in evangelism get the fish to the surface and then let them go (Gal. 6:9; Rom. 10:13-14; cf. 1 Cor. 11:1-2; 2 Cor. 5:18-20; 2 Tim. 4:1-2; 2 Thess. 2:14-15; Jas. 5:19-20). No. We have to give them direction thereafter, help them to grow as we have grown. Of course, way too many Christians and Christian groups involved in evangelism have not grown to spiritual maturity themselves, so even if they have them their nets are filled with holes if and when they do use them. A new believer has to be led to a place where he/she can grow in the truth (cf. Rom. 12:13; 1 Cor. 12:12-27; Col. 3:13; 1 Thess. 5:14; Heb. 10:24-25; 1 Pet. 4:8-11). That should be a local church but today most of these are sadly deficient of the score of helping to produce genuine growth because they don't teach the truth in any depth of detail. Nowadays one finds what one can find where one can find it. I would be pleased for any new believer to be pointed to (or Bible Academy) or any other place where the truth really is being taught. But pointing a new believer to a legalistic "church" that will dictate their behavior or to a libertarian church that will tell them it's all OK (whatever "it" is) will not produce growth in either case, and a very large number of such new believers "get away" and revert to the world as a result. In Closing: If a person really does want to hear the gospel, that is of God: give them the gospel. Once we do, if they accept Jesus Christ as their Savior, their hearts will convict them to turn away from anything and everything sinful, regardless of past behavior or beliefs. And if they are led to a good place where they can grow, they will do so in increasing sanctification. But if they aren't really that interested in the truth, will they believe? And if they "believe" on condition of doing ABC, are they really saved or is it a works contract in their heart? And even if they legitimately accept Christ, without being led to a place where they can grow, will they be able to resist the siren song of the world and their prior lives so as not to fall back away? Only the truth can save a person. Only desire for the truth can motivate a person to be saved. Only continued attention to the truth can keep a person safe after being saved. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. (Proverbs 27:6) God Bless!
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    And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to [the acknowledging of the truth]; And that they may [recover themselves] out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. (2 Timothy 2:24-26) If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, [receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed]: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 10-11) Should we invite (into our homes) those who teach doctrines and beliefs contrary to what the infallible Word of God says? And if no . . . where do we draw the line? One of the ways we can express our love to those who are led astray with false teaching is through the TRUTH. It would be *unloving* to let the said person "BE" if they are on the broad path to destruction (Jas. 4:17; cf. 1 Jn. 2:1-29; Jude 1:23). The Spirit-filled men of the Bible made it their life mission to admonish those who were in opposition to God's Truth (cf. Mk. 9:42; Lk. 13:3; Acts 17:30; Rom. 3:19; 6:23; 1 Tim. 2:1-15; Gal. 5:4; 6:7-9; Jas. 1:17; 1 Jn. 5:17; Isa. 59:2; Deut. 30:15-16; Ezek. 18:4, et al.) When it comes to most denominations and cults, I'm not sure there is much of a functional difference because none of them is truly SEEKING Christ, where the individual person therein is a believer or not (Deut. 32:18; Lev. 26:27-28; Ezek. 6:9; Isa. 28:22; Hos. 4:6; Jer. 1:16; 2:21; 3:20; Amos 2:4,5; Ps. 50:22; Jn. 3:36; Rom. 2:8, etc.). 2 John 1:10-11 is telling us not to PRETEND that individuals who pretend to be servants of Christ really are -- just because they say so -- and therefore not to support them in their efforts because their efforts are not of God. Telling someone "God speed" is a blessing of sorts, e.g., so we do not want to wish Mormon missionaries "success!" because what they are doing is wrong (cf. 1 Thess. 2:1-6; Matt. 15:9; 1 Cor. 15:14; Ecc. 5:3; Tit. 1:10). Does that mean we cannot try to persuade them to come to Christ? Not at all. That is not what the passage is saying. I will say that when it comes to *dyed-in-the-wool* members of these three groups, I am always very surprised when someone claims to have led them to the truth. In my experience, certain individuals in such groups are not convinced and are candidates for grace, but have to be led by the Lord into the right place or to the right person so as to come to the Lord. I would imagine that making a habit of inviting those who are out campaigning for their religions into one's home and attempting to demonstrate to them what the truth really is would be a very low percentage operation (these are the front-line soldiers we are talking about here, and if they had doubts they probably wouldn't be placed or be willing to be placed on the front line). However, we all have our own individual ministries given to us by the Lord, and it is also true that He may choose to use us for such a purpose in a particular case (Eph. 4:11-13; Lk. 3:23; Acts 20:24; Rom. 12:7; 2 Cor. 3:6; Eph. 4:12; Col. 1:28; 1 Tim. 1:12; 2:7; 2 Tim. 2:12; 4:1-5; 1 Pet. 4:10). So on the one hand we have to be open to the possibility; but on the other hand we have to see things for what they are: the people ringing your doorbell most likely have very hardened hearts or they wouldn't be there in the first place. We all have limited time and energy and resources, and there are things that we know for certain the Lord wants us to do pray, read our Bible, do Bible study with a good ministry, engage in the ministry He leads us to). So if we are not led by the Spirit to engage in depth and at length with a particular person in this category, we do need to keep those limitations in mind. All other things being equal, it's better than wasting our time on some pointless leisure time activity, but not necessarily better than doing that list of things we know the Lord wants done (Jer. 29:11; Matt. 7:21; Lk. 12:48; cf. 2 Cor. 5:10; Eph. 4:16; 2 Tim. 4:2; 1 Pet. 4:10; 1 Jn. 2:17). God Bless!
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    Looking for a place that believes God's word, and studies and lives it, as Jesus lived it. I've been to quite a few forums, most of whom 's 'leadership' doubt the Bible in what it plainly says, and question even the most plainest statements and yet they proclaim themselves 'Christians' an to be able to teach and 'moderate', yet are unwilling to openly defend what they believe in forum discussion. I believe God's word from Alpha to Omega, First to Last, Beginning to Ending, Creation to Redemption, and it is the final authority in all matters of faith and practice. About 10 years ago now, by the pleading of the Holy Spirit with my own heart, bringing upon me conviction of sin, righteousness and judgment, I fell upon my knees in my room, in hot tears, knowing that I was a monstrous sinner, deserving of such a death, but believing the promise of God, and so called upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to save me from death, and deliver me from sin, and to pluck me from the fire as a brand to be remade into an arrow of the Lord. I remember the night, and felt the presence of God in my room. I am neither IFB, nor 'Baptist' (though I know some of each), but I have been Baptized by full immersion and I now have, for some time, the King James Bible. I have read the entire history of the Reformation (original and in the time of Calvin) by J. H. Merle d'Aubigne, and other such books, and many books on the Bible (King James), as well as watched many a video on similar materials, sacred history (ecclesiastical/church), history in general, and love to research. Some forums I have been to, are JW forums (for witnessing/apologetic purposes), LDS forums (for witnessing/apologetic purposes), Muslim forums (for witnessing/apologetic purposes), Catholic forums (fishing in the Tiber, they really don't like me there), Baptist forums, Christian forums, and others as well. I am looking for a place to fellowship and study with others in the word of God. I do have strong positions based upon prayerful study of God's word, and so please ask for patience and discussion (for it breaks my heart every time I am simply removed from a place because I disagree (sometimes strongly) with others, based upon what is demonstrable from scripture (I expect to be convinced by scripture and godliness, not force of might and trodding down of my conscience)), though I do learn from godly wisdom, so long as it is foundationally built upon a thus saith the Lord, and it is written. I like to share what God has shared with me with all, and withhold from none, no matter their background. I have not spoken of all my background, for in truth, there are things than cannot ever be said, nor shared, too cruel, too wicked, too foul, too black and in anycase are covered by the blood, and to know those things, one must attempt to pry them from Jesus' almighty lips.
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    Well brother Jim, I had cited in quotation that which was necessary to see between the Epistles of Peter and Jude. I admitted in the OP that it looks better in chart format, but that cannot be done in a forums setting, and so re-formatted my personal study for forum posting - http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/the-loud-cry-revelation-14-12/id5277051 The general idea is that the Epistles of Peter and Jude align nearly word for word (with some exception and specially cited texts). This is important for studies which draw upon those Epistles, for instance, on the Creation, Flood, Angels, Judgment, etc. Please allow me to re-cite just one example from the OP for demonstration: 2 Peter 2:17 “... to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.” Jude 1:13 “... to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.” Nearly identical in thought and in word. The difference in being the human through whom the Holy Ghost inspired. Then, in further reply I showed the structure of Jude, in a miniature sense: Jude 1:5 - I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. Jude 1:6 - And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude 1:7 - Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 1:8 - Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Jude 1:5 parallels with Jude 1:8C, Jude 1:6 parallels with Jude 1:8B, Jude 1:7 parallels with Jude 1:8A Since that is so, this helps in refuting a heretical doctrine 'of angels mating with humans' (which comes from the apocryphal so-called 1st book of Enoch).
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    Noobie here from AZ

    Hello, Im Jason from Arizona and I am new to this board. I am a former non-denom fun center Christian and have been IFB since April 2015. So far Im liking what Im reading here, and its a relief to read the thoughts and opinions of like minded believers. Saved and Baptized at around 12 yrs in a local baptist church inspite of my Catholic family. Did the repent of your sins Pentecostal thing as a teenager and did the backsliding thing in the military. Married with kids and made my way through multiple rock n roll fun centers before finding my roots again in a solid IFB church.
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    Spiritual Gifts

    Falling backwards, rolling around on the floor, and laughing incessantly are not the signs or manifestations of the Holy Spirit operating in the individual. As I mentioned in the past: those who experienced the true power of God the Holy Spirit fell FORWARD "on their faces" instead of falling BACKWARDS (Num.20:6; 1 Chron.29:20; 1 Sam.5:3; Lev.9:24; Ezek.1:28; Matt.26:39; Rev.1:17; 7:11). Jesus Himself (in His humanity) fell on His face before His heavenly Father. The dumb idol and the demon (Dagon) behind it fell on its face because of the power of the LORD (1 Sam.5:3). This is one of those passages in scripture which clearly shows that God has a great sense of humor (even in the midst of His stern commands); as well as Jonah being vomited out by a big fish. Some Charismatics may argue that the soldiers fell backwards when Jesus responded to them by saying, "I Am". The problem with that explanation is that the soldiers who fell backwards were "unbelievers" (Jn.18:6). How do we know what genuine spiritual gifts that God has given us? If we are "operating" in accordance with, e.g., faith, giving and discernment, then it really is a moot point, a "it'd be nice to know but isn't necessary to know" point; however, if we are convinced by the Spirit and have had it confirmed by much personal experience that we have gifts A, B, C (cf. Rom.12:3-8; 1 Cor.12:7-11), well then . . . The main thing is that if a person has a gift -- or thinks they have a gift -- which would involve timely preparation (beyond the spiritual growth to maturity we all need in order to have our gifts function properly; 1 Cor.14:9,20; 1 Pet.4:10) -- then such a person does need to "figure it out": there's no point in going to seminary or graduate school to prepare for a teaching ministry if one has not been gifted to be a teacher, e.g., but if that IS one's gift, the sooner the preparation begins the better (Eph.4:11-16). Tongues is not operational today (cf. 2Cor.12:12; Heb.2:3-4). I don't weigh in on anyone else' experience. God does miracles all the time. And people exaggerate all the time. The hyper-miraculous gifts mentioned by Paul in 1st Corinthians chapter thirteen are not being given today. So God may heal miraculously (He often does, in my experience), but no one today has the ability to say, "Arise and walk!" to a crippled person and have that come true because of a spiritual gift, e.g. Also, it is abundantly clear that some of the spiritual gifts mentioned were specifically given to the "Apostles" (which there are none today) to confirm the message of the Gospel being preached and spread to the Gentile world. God Bless!
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    The Local Church.

    I agree Alan. Any reasonable person would understand that "the church" that Paul saluted was his sending church at Jerusalem. It certainly was not some universal church represented by any convention or denominational board. It is amazing to me that anyone can study their Bible and come to any kind of conclusion regarding how missionaries are sent out and how they are to operate in an exclusively local church setting. We do not read one time where any missionary was sent out from, or reported back to, any mission board or convention. In every instance the interaction between both missionaries and church was local in nature. I guess I am just a hard nose in this respect; the authority to send men to any mission field resides exclusively in the local church. Denominational mission boards have no authority.
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    The Local Church.

    I am grieved over the lack of doctrinal truth and spiritual discernment found in the majority of local churches today (e.g., false doctrines, bibles rarely being used, the name of Jesus almost never mentioned, worldly sermons, glorifying self, etc.). I would go as far as to say that nearly 90% of local churches (if not more) do not uphold to biblical truths; and especially not with what "church" has become here in the waning days of the Lukewarmness which abounds. It is typical of people who have adopted an easy and comfortable way of doing things not only to proclaim themselves "right" in their wrong-doing, but also to find fault with others who ARE doing it right. Why? Because such individuals challenge their comfort. Also, if they can get the people who are doing it right to do it "their way" instead, then they will feel much more secure in their wrong approach. This is, after all, how the devil got a third of the angels to join up: not only were they doing what they wanted to do (instead of doing the right thing) but with so many doing it there was safety in numbers. A third of the angels can't be wrong, can they? Yes they can. So many Christians going to church where the Word is NEVER taught or else is error is taught about it can't be wrong can they? Yes they can. Everyone should attend church, but why are we going there? If it's not to learn the truth and grow spiritually from it -- the whole reason for Christian assembly -- then we are only wasting our time . . . or worse (if what is being "taught" is contrary to the truth which is often the case). Churches today tend to be little more than social get-togethers, so that even though there may be differing in their formal creeds, really no one believes much of anything (anything of the truth, that is). So whether a church in question focuses on wowing the congregation with "worldly" music, or hell-fire and brimstone, or speaking in tongues, or extensive high ritual, what they have in common is no truth (or very little of it) and very often falsity instead. And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. (Hebrews 10:24-25) The assembling of believers OUGHT to be an occasion for mutual edification and motivation for learning, teaching and believing the truth and living it out. That is the PURPOSE for the assembly. It's about the purpose! We can find some BAD examples of this all throughout the Bible. Here are a few passages about assemblies that do not accomplish the purpose: When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts? Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. (Isaiah 1:12-14) I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemmn assemblies. (Amos 5:21) Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the LORD of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand. (Malachi 1:10) Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, [but for the worse]. (1 Corinthians 11:17) I certainly encourage every Christian to fellowship with other Christians who are likewise dedicated to the truth so that by such fellowship they may be encouraged and helped even as we encourage and help them -- and to bring Glory to God. That is what local churches of Jesus Christ is supposed to be doing -- and what better and more efficient way of doing so than face to face? Churches which teach false doctrines and damnable heresies are a dime a dozen these days, and those are lies. And we are not required to believe lies. Rather, we are to refute them with the truth. It's all about the truth, and that is a difficult commodity to come by in the vast majority of churches today . . . and they are very few and far between. God Bless!
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    Chippewa Lake Baptist Church, Medina, Ohio, Pastor James Siekbert. When unable to get to church, watch online Church of The Open Door, Westminster, Maryland, Pastor Norris Belcher.
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    No Nicolaitans


    Roselove, I struggled with this myself. My circumstances may have been different than your's (or your husband's) though. Under heavy conviction, I went forward to be saved one Sunday. My pastor asked me, "Did you feel him come in?" (referring to Jesus coming into my heart). Well, no...I didn't. He told me to pray again. Afterward, he asked again if I felt him come in. No, I didn't "feel him come in". He told me to pray again...etc. I was very confused and didn't understand. I never did "feel him come in"...and I'm ashamed to say it, but I finally lied and told him that I did just so he would quit asking me and making me pray more. I left church that day thinking that I wasn't saved, because I didn't "feel him come in". That set a sad course for me for the next several years. I would beg God to save me, but I never felt him come in. It got to the point where I determined that I couldn't be saved...after all, I never felt him come in. Interestingly during that time, when I would sin, I felt convicted about it. When I couldn't take it any longer...I sat down with the Bible and a concordance...and looked up all of the verses I could find about salvation... I found the truth. I found that I had done what the Bible said one must do to be saved. I found that according to God's word, I was saved. No wonder I felt convicted of sin! Do you want to know what I didn't find? I never found one instance of having to "feel him come in"...and I still have never found one. I was convicted of being a sinner, I believed on Jesus with all of my heart, and I confessed him as Lord. My problem was relying on what a man told me, and the devil used that against me for about five years. One of the most important things to God is that we believe...him. When I saw what God said, it finally set me free from the doubts and fears that were instilled into me by man. Read his word. Believe it, and rest upon it. Man will steer you wrong, but God won't. Believe God's word Roselove...believe it. I'll be praying for you and your husband.
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