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  1. 3 points
    heartstrings

    want a family of my own

    1 Corinthians 7 25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful. 26I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be. 27Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife. 28But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you. Whatever you do, consider and remember the underlined part.
  2. 2 points
    Jordan Kurecki

    Something we need

    Hello friends, a few weeks ago on a Sunday Night, I was privileged to preach message on "Cleaving to God". I was extremely discouraged before preaching the message, and did not think it was going to go well, but about halfway through I could feel the Holy Spirit of God come upon me in a very unique way, I hope you will take some time to listen to this message, and I pray that the Holy Spirit of God will touch your heart in the same way he did to me. It's a little slow, but at around 36 minutes I could sense in a real way that the Holy Spirit began taking control of me and speaking, I do not say this in a proud way, it was just such a unique experience, and God spoke to my own heart while preaching in such a powerful way, if you are pressed for time sake, start at around 30 minutes to get a decent context on what I was preaching about. http://jordankurecki.sermon.net/main/main/20498182
  3. 2 points
    John81

    Where Did We Go Wrong?

    Excellent posts from Pastor Markle! I've taken much heat over the years for discussing that very issue. Leadership, which Scripture calls men to, is the key issue. Another factor which has led to complacency has been the ease of life in America and the dominance (until our lifetimes) of secular Christianity in America. This all made for ease of living and ease of conscience as many lose interest in God when everything seems to be so good in their lives and why bother evangelizing when most folks call themselves Christian and share a similar public persona (again, until changes in our lifetime). These factors, lack of male leadership in the home, church, etc., plus the ease of life, opened the door for so many other anti-Christ factors to come about. One of the most devastating being compulsory education, mostly in public schools which were transformed into anti-Christ indoctrination centers. The anti-Christ indoctrination is furthered in the halls of "higher learning" which virtually all high school seniors are encouraged to attend. This gives the forces of darkness most of Americas children from about age 5 (in some cases earlier) to age 18 to indoctrinate and corrupt in the ways of the world, the flesh and the devil. Meanwhile, in most households, even many Christian households, this stuff isn't countered or is countered only in small and most often ineffectual ways. The "better" parents which have their children in church, at least when they are very young, often expect that hour of Sunday school to be all their children need to grow up right. That hour of Sunday school is overwhelmed by the many hours in public school, hours spent in front of a TV, listening to worldly music, etc. With the watering down of the Gospel even among many "conservative" churches, coupled with the weakness of many TV preachers, the "only salvation sermons" of some preachers, the "make sure the congregation is happy" preachers, and the overall lack of attending church regularly and it's little wonder so many professing Christians have little interest in personal revival, personal holiness, growth in Christ, leading their families. Some may not even heard of such! As Pastor Markle pointed out, men failing in their duty of leadership is the main problem. This opened the door to all these other issues; from radical feminism to loss of control over the education of our children and beyond.
  4. 2 points
    Pastor Scott Markle

    Where Did We Go Wrong?

    An argument certainly could be made to that effect; however, I myself would probably be more likely to make the argument that the decline among men as spiritual leaders is what allowed the feminist movement to acquire greater strength.
  5. 2 points
    Pastor Scott Markle

    Where Did We Go Wrong?

    The Lord our God has placed the responsibility of spiritual leadership for individual homes and individual churches upon the shoulders of the men. Even so, the men are responsible to lead and to teach their respective wives and children, as well as to influence their churches, in the truth of God's Holy Word. However, the majority of the men are no longer diligent students of God's Holy Word and are no longer walking after God's Holy Spirit (but after their own selfish flesh); therefore, they cannot lead and teach as they ought. Sad to say, but this is even true within the pastoral leadership of many churches. As such, our churches, our homes, and our children (as the next generation of adults) are all moving deeper into Biblical ignorance and spiritual corruption. (As a side note: I strongly believe that the spiritual future of our churches is directly tied to the spiritual direction of our homes, and I strongly believe that the spiritual direction of our homes is directly tied to the spiritual character of our men.) Ephesians 5:25-27 -- "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; that he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, that he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish." Ephesians 6:4 -- "And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord." Deuteronomy 6:1-9 -- "Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it [Notice the plural pronouns "you" and "ye" in verse 1.]: that thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son’s son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged [Notice the change to the singular pronouns "thou," "thee," and "thy" in verse 2. Furthermore, notice the male references to male leadership in verse 2. Finally, notice that the singular pronouns continue through verses 3-7.]. Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: and thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: and thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates." Joshua 24:14-15 -- "Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD." (Notice according to Joshua 24:1 who was called to this meeting with Joshua before the Lord.) 2 Timothy 2:2 -- "And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also." Ezekiel 22:30 -- "And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none." (Consider also the following sermon -- http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=921151953480)
  6. 2 points
    TheSword

    Theology Proper

    Trying to decide which one start with is always somewhat of a conundrum. Just like your husband, I intended to do Bibliology in the next section instead of moving on to Christ and the Holy Spirit as most systematic theologies do. Part of where many people fail is in not giving the Bible enough weight and precedence in developing their theologies and as a result they always end up with an inferior product. I think that is exactly why UM and John91 expressed their concerns over it above. Part of the fundamental aspect of what is missing from most systematic theologies I have seen is the lack of due attention and reverence given to the Bibliology up front to establish it as the sole source of divine truth. I would like everyone to rest assured that will not be the case in my work. A major part of the fundamental perspective is the inspiration, inerrancy, preservation, and reliability of the Bible and it is one of my foremost concerns for this endeavor.
  7. 2 points
    trapperhoney

    want a family of my own

    Hello Natalia! Welcome to the group. I understand your desire to have a loving, godly family. My parents had a loving, godly marriage. From the time I was just a few weeks old they started taking me to church. As I grew my Mother was diligent about teaching me the Bible at home. God and the Bible were central in our family. At the age of six I felt the calling of the Lord and gave my life to Him. I made my profession public at my home church and followed two weeks later in baptism by immersion. From that time my dearest desire was to serve God however He wanted me to. For many years I felt like He wanted me to be a missionary, and I talked about that often. I worked with a children's ministry organization for three years during the summers as a teenager and made plans to attend Bible College to study missions. At the age of 16, though, the Lord showed me that He intended me to pursue counseling, and that is what I ended up studying at college. But during that time at college, and a missions trip upon graduation, I learned that we are all missionaries every moment of our lives if we are Christians. Wherever we go -- home, job, market, community -- we are to be witnesses, ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you.... (1 Peter 3:15) I was very close to my father, most definitely "Daddy's girl." My father stressed to me as I grew up about being careful about the men I became interested in, how I interacted with them, etc. He gave me a lot of godly guidance, and as a teenager I sat down and really thought the kind of man I wanted as a husband. I looked around me and saw many, many couples who were both Christians, but seemed to be very mismatched. They seemed to simply live together, not actually partners in life or ministry. I knew I did not want that. God, the Bible and Church were central to my life, so I knew that it would have to be the same for my husband. I was interested in ministry, so my husband would have to have the same interest as I did. I made a little list, in my mind, of what I was looking for. He had to have a close personal relationship with God, have godly qualities, and was devoted to ministry and the study of the Bible. Basically, he had to have the same interest and level of commitment that I did. Also, our goals for ministry had to be compatible. As much as I like music, I don't understand it, so someone called to be a writer of music or a choir director/song leader in the church would probably not be a good fit for me. I had worked in children's ministry most of my life and had an inclination toward counseling, so my husband would have to be someone who had the same experiences and interests. So, I recommend you sit down, with your Bible, think about the areas of ministry you are called to, the level of commitment you have to God and your church, and really think through and put in writing the kind of man that would be compatible for you. This is NOT to give God a grocery list to fulfill for you. It is so that you know in your own mind the kind of man that is right and that is the standard you will use to "weed out" those men who come into your life. Because take my word for it, Satan will put men into your path that look good, sound good, and seem like the right fit, but are really just wolves in sheep's clothing. He would like nothing better than to trip you up into an unholy, ungodly relationship that will hurt your testimony, and his ultimate goal would to get you into an ungodly marriage that will make you miserable. You must always be on your guard! Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: (1 Peter 5:8) In college I put my studies first, because I knew that God had led me there to prepare me for ministry. But in the back of my mind I was convinced that if I didn't find a husband there I wouldn't find one. Back home I just had not met guys my age that had the same level of commitment to church and ministry. They were good men, attended church regularly, but just not very spiritually minded. This made me a tad bit desperate. In college two men came into my life. The first I dated. We dated for a few months, but then he broke up with me. I was devastated. It took me some time to get over him. Then I met another guy whom I really liked, and I kind of pursued him, and then he withdrew from me. At this point I recognized that those two relationships (though the second one was never a dating relationship, we were friends that I hoped would turn into something more serious) were ones I was trying to make work, and they were not in God's plan for me at all. At that point I turned it completely over to God. In just a few months I would be leaving college, and I felt that at that time my chances for finding a husband would be over. I resigned myself to the idea I would be single the rest of my life. I spent a week praying earnestly to God, completely turning it all over to God. I told Him I was tired of trying to do it myself, because I only messed things up and the hurt after the failure was too much to bear anymore. I told Him that if He had a man picked out for me, I was ready for that man and I would wait on Him to bring him into my life. If I was to be single, I would accept that too, please just give me the grace to live joyously in ministry for Him that way. After that week I completely put out of my mind about finding a husband and started making plans to go for a Master's degree in counseling. A month later, a man who had been at the college when I got there, but left a year and a half later due to finances, got in touch with me. We had been friends, but no romantic inclinations had ever been in either of our minds. We just started talking. Things had happened in his life that left him kind of lonely and discouraged, and he was reaching out to a friend. Slowly, over the next several months, that friendship turned to love. When I came to the point that I knew he was the one for me (after my sister laying out for me how clearly God arranged things, which I was too blind to see -- thank God for sisters!) I knew in my heart that God intended us to be partners in ministry. We had both worked in childrens' ministries, youth ministries, both served on the college puppet team and we are both gifted as teachers. Since marrying we have had many opportunities to serve together as co-teachers with children, youth and in leading Bible classes. We are a perfect fit for each other. My advice to you is to make sure the kind of man God would have for you, pray about it, commit it completely to Him, and then dedicate yourself to being about your Father's business. A godly man will be attracted to a woman whose life is dedicated (genuinely) to serving God. Above all, though, do not become desperate, trust God and find contentment serving Him. Men can sense when a woman is desperate. That is how I scared away the second man in college. Good men will run from desperate women, and worthless men will be drawn to them like a shark smelling blood in the water. Be patient and wait on the Lord. Put your trust completely in Him. It will be worth the wait.
  8. 2 points
    OLD fashioned preacher

    want a family of my own

    Hello Natalia, I see you responded to Ukulelemike's second sentence but not his first (which I would consider the more important one.) The first thread you started, I deleted because I had the impression it was just a spam thread. With the second thread standing open and responded to, you now have a chance to prove me wrong (which I would not object to.) So, you said you're a child of God -- wonderful! In that case I'm sure you would not object to giving us the blessing of hearing when you became one and how it came about.
  9. 2 points
    Ukulelemike

    want a family of my own

    Welcome, Natalia. So, can you tell us about your salvation experience? As for seeking a godly husband, first I recommend you reject the dating sites-they are junk and its a worldly way to meet a spouse. Are you in a good church? That is where I would begin my search-get involved in your church and wait for the Lord to bring someone to you. I met my wife in my church, in a little town of 800 people.
  10. 1 point
    natalia

    want a family of my own

    hello everyone my name is Natalia, am single and am looking for a Christian and God fearing man because am a child of God, i have tried some dating sites but i don't know if its proper to say their names because i didn't have a good experience there, i actually met someone but he is against my beliefs, he smokes and drink too much, i tried to change him but guess he couldn't give up those things for me, he choose them over me. feel free to contact me if you are interested age does not matter to me as far as am happy, here is my email:natalia.martinez97@yahoo.com and my skype: natalia.dovey also my facebook link https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009401891733. God bless you and hope to hear from anyone.
  11. 1 point
    TheSword

    Theology Proper

    Given the lack of a reliable systematic theology from a fundamental perspective (of which has come up several times on this forum as well), largely because the people who are capable of writing one are wholly engaged in other ministry or are unwilling to commit themselves to do so, I've decided to explore undertaking the task to write one. It's sure to be an extremely long (years if not decades) and arduous process. I'm of the mind that a good systematic theology should start with Theology Proper (Doctrine of God). Unfortunately it's probably my least favorite one to develop, but it is critical for a foundation. My purpose for this post is to canvas you here on OB for what elements you believe is important to cover in developing this doctrine (e.g. existence of God, attributes of God, etc). Even if I disagree on something, I welcome your contributions! ***If you are of the mind that one should not read/write books or that developing a coherent theology is a waste of time, I do not want or need your input. Please do not comment on this thread if you're not going to contribute to the above stated goal of this discussion***
  12. 1 point
    trapperhoney

    Where Did We Go Wrong?

    thank you, gentlemen! this will give me something to discuss with my husband when he comes back from his trip. I know from the woman's perspective, if you believe women are to be submissive in the home and the church you are looked on as a traitor to your sex. We have gotten ourselves into quite a spot.
  13. 1 point
    Rosie

    want a family of my own

    Speaking of missionaries but not in foreign countries. I became disabled in 98. Shortly after that God called me to be a missionary. I surrendered after about 5 minutes... Since then God has brought women into my life for me to minister to.. I am living with a woman who lost her husband. 6 years ago and needs someone to help her through life... she is saved, goes to church faithfully, and is a member of the choir. we do devotions together every day.... be patient Maggie you gave excellent advice...
  14. 1 point
    swathdiver

    Where Did We Go Wrong?

    "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." - 2 Timothy 4:3-4 "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity." - Luke 13:24-27 The author at Christian Post and Barna fail to understand the biblical meaning of a Christian. Most of the people polled are not Christians.
  15. 1 point
    swathdiver

    Theology Proper

    Consider the table of contents in the book, "A Systematic Study of Bible Doctrine" by Thomas Paul Simmons.
  16. 1 point
    TheSword

    Theology Proper

    Yeah, it's the reason there is a dearth of fundamental literature in general. Truly, it's kind of a great problem to have because it means people are wholly given to the work of God. Right now I am not engaged in full-time ministry and so this will be my main project until I get established in a ministry in my new church and then I suppose will become my "leisure" activity. Agreed. I think I will actually address this thoroughly in both Theology Proper and Soteriology (salvation) when it comes time to work through the whole Calvinism thing. Haha, I certainly appreciate your cooperation.
  17. 1 point
    TheSword

    Theology Proper

    I 100% agree with this and it is my intent. What I mean by incorporating philosophy into it would be taking the biblical claims about God to their logical ends to extrapolate and explain how those qualities and facts affect both our relation to Him and how it relates to other doctrines. Additionally, when building a systematic theology from the bottom-up, there must be some amount of reasoning for things such as the existence of God, otherwise it will be circular reasoning. Rest assured that it will be minimal and still supported by biblical evidence and principle on every point.
  18. 1 point
    Rosie

    want a family of my own

    welcome Natalie.. I am a senior and have never been married. When I first got saved 31 years ago I went to every special meeting in all of the IFB Churches in my area thinking God would provide a husband for me but it never happened.. so after several years I gave up looking... here I've been saved 31 years...oops I told my age.... and am still single. I believe with all of my heart at this point in time God wants me single.. I would love to have a daughter of my own but God didn't agree... I have 5 brothers.... wait upon Him.. Don't make a mistake that you will regret later
  19. 1 point
    John81

    Theology Proper

    I see this as a very important point. Stick to what Scripture actually deals with and says, not speculations of what we (or others) might think certain things may mean or not. One of the main problems with many Christian writings along the lines proposed is the constant interjection of the authors speculations and guesses. Even worse when the author puts forth the speculations and guesses of those he disagrees with and then proceeds to offer his own speculations and guesses as an alternative. Recently I began reading an article online in which the author began by stating his intent to only speak what Scripture actually says with no outside input. Yet a few paragraphs in he began pointing out problems with some others speculations and then, rather than simply pointing out what Scripture actually says on the matter and leaving it at that, he writes a couple of paragraphs offering his own speculations and ends that section by saying his speculations must be right but with not a bit of Scripture to even attempt to back up that claim. I didn't finish reading the article as the author lost credibility just that quick. The point being, I highly recommend following the idea of allowing the Bible to speak for itself and leaving out extra-biblical commentary.
  20. 1 point
    natalia

    want a family of my own

    Thanks for your words of advice, and as for those dating sites i have separated myself from them, because it is a threat to my christian life
  21. 1 point
    October 06, 2015William Tyndale and The English BibleIf you read the Bible in English, you owe a debt of gratitude to William Tyndale. Today marks the anniversary of Tyndale’s execution at the stake for the “crime” of translating the Bible into English: The “father of the English Bible” was apparently born in a hamlet near the Welsh border about 1490. He arrived at Oxford with a gift for languages and began studying the writings of the greatest linguist in the world, Erasmus. He poured over Erasmus’ Greek New Testament and other writings, and he soon began lecturing from them. The Bible was still virtually unavailable in English, and an idea formed in William Tyndale’s mind. He began proclaiming the value of pure Scripture and of the need to translate it. He was threatened and opposed. “We are better to be without God’s laws than the pope’s,” one man said, voice rising. Tyndale’s reply is among the most famous in church history: “If God spares me, ere many years I will cause a boy that drives the plow to know more of the Scriptures than you do.” He approached the Bishop of London for help in rendering the Bible into English, but was rebuffed. Tyndale nevertheless began working on his project. Finding his life in danger, he fled to the Continent. There he continued translating, smuggling copies of Matthew and Mark back into London. Spies combed Europe for him, and Tyndale played a cloak and dagger game, hiding and running, translating and smuggling. By 1525 complete copies of the New Testament were being secretly read in England. On May 21, 1535 Tyndale was betrayed and seized. He languished in a miserable prison cell. His witness there converted the jailer and his family. On October 6, 1536 he was tied to the stake outside of Brussels, strangled, and burned. He was 42. Tyndale’s final words were, “Lord, open the King of England’s eyes.” That prayer had already been answered, for King Henry VIII had approved of a new English Bible by Miles Coverdale, Tyndale’s friend. Henry never realized that Coverdale’s Bible was nearly 70 percent Tyndale’s work. In 1604 James I approved a new translation of the Bible into English, and Tyndale’s work became the basis of 90 percent of the King James Version.
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